Is there no direct straight road from Wailea to Route 37?

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My grandparents' hotel is in Wailea, but they fancy driving the Southern Road to Hana.



  1. Is Google Maps beneath correct? Must they truly waste gasoline and time to drive the circuitous meandering loop?


  2. If Google Maps is correct, why hasn't a direct road been built? The land between Wailea and Highway 37 looks flat, unbroken? Does the cost outstrip the potential amount of traffic?


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    That whole patch where you wrote "No direct shorter straight-line route for automobiles?" is all private land. There are various routes across it, but according to Google street view all are fenced off with "private property" or "no trespassing" signs.
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  • Even if the road existed it would save you 30 minutes tops. Hardly a major problem :)
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My grandparents' hotel is in Wailea, but they fancy driving the Southern Road to Hana.



  1. Is Google Maps beneath correct? Must they truly waste gasoline and time to drive the circuitous meandering loop?


  2. If Google Maps is correct, why hasn't a direct road been built? The land between Wailea and Highway 37 looks flat, unbroken? Does the cost outstrip the potential amount of traffic?


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    That whole patch where you wrote "No direct shorter straight-line route for automobiles?" is all private land. There are various routes across it, but according to Google street view all are fenced off with "private property" or "no trespassing" signs.
    – Nick
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  • Even if the road existed it would save you 30 minutes tops. Hardly a major problem :)
    – JonathanReez♦
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My grandparents' hotel is in Wailea, but they fancy driving the Southern Road to Hana.



  1. Is Google Maps beneath correct? Must they truly waste gasoline and time to drive the circuitous meandering loop?


  2. If Google Maps is correct, why hasn't a direct road been built? The land between Wailea and Highway 37 looks flat, unbroken? Does the cost outstrip the potential amount of traffic?


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My grandparents' hotel is in Wailea, but they fancy driving the Southern Road to Hana.



  1. Is Google Maps beneath correct? Must they truly waste gasoline and time to drive the circuitous meandering loop?


  2. If Google Maps is correct, why hasn't a direct road been built? The land between Wailea and Highway 37 looks flat, unbroken? Does the cost outstrip the potential amount of traffic?


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    That whole patch where you wrote "No direct shorter straight-line route for automobiles?" is all private land. There are various routes across it, but according to Google street view all are fenced off with "private property" or "no trespassing" signs.
    – Nick
    1 hour ago










  • Even if the road existed it would save you 30 minutes tops. Hardly a major problem :)
    – JonathanReez♦
    22 mins ago












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    That whole patch where you wrote "No direct shorter straight-line route for automobiles?" is all private land. There are various routes across it, but according to Google street view all are fenced off with "private property" or "no trespassing" signs.
    – Nick
    1 hour ago










  • Even if the road existed it would save you 30 minutes tops. Hardly a major problem :)
    – JonathanReez♦
    22 mins ago







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That whole patch where you wrote "No direct shorter straight-line route for automobiles?" is all private land. There are various routes across it, but according to Google street view all are fenced off with "private property" or "no trespassing" signs.
– Nick
1 hour ago




That whole patch where you wrote "No direct shorter straight-line route for automobiles?" is all private land. There are various routes across it, but according to Google street view all are fenced off with "private property" or "no trespassing" signs.
– Nick
1 hour ago












Even if the road existed it would save you 30 minutes tops. Hardly a major problem :)
– JonathanReez♦
22 mins ago




Even if the road existed it would save you 30 minutes tops. Hardly a major problem :)
– JonathanReez♦
22 mins ago










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It turns out that there is a road, but you can't use it. See The Deal With Oprah Winfrey’s Private Maui Road for more details.




And not just any road, either: Oprah’s road is concrete and asphalt 12 feet across. Goodfellow Brothers paved it in December 2010. The road stretches from the water tank at Kealakapu Road near Piilani Highway in Kihei to Keokoa, near Haleakala Highway. It’s a road locals have been waiting for 40 years — a potentially golden road that could radically ease traffic congestion in Central Maui.



That is, if the public could use it, which it most certainly cannot. “The paved road, drainage swales and detention ponds will be privately maintained,” stated a June 2009 Drainage Report on the effects of paving the road prepared by Wayne I. Arakaki Engineer LLC for OW Ranch, LLC, (the initials reportedly stand for “Oprah Winfrey”) and kept on file with the Maui County Planning Department. “This is a private roadway and will not be open to the public.”







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    If you switch Google Maps to topology view you'll see that where your arrow lies goes from sea level to 600 meters (2000 feet) in the distance of 5km



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    That's a 12% incline for 5 kilometers. It's probably not too much of an issue going up that hill, but going down it you run the possibility of cooking your brakes over such a distance. Most people don't know how to shift down a gear to ease up on the braking.



    Secondly, I'm not sure why Google Maps has given you the route that it did as going clockwise around the island appears to be a much shorter journey



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    Perhaps there was bad traffic on the day you planned the journey?






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    • 'Secondly, I'm not sure why Google Maps has given you the route that it did as going clockwise around the island appears to be a much shorter journey' : It didn't. It recommended the northern route, but I deliberately chose the southern route. My grandparents fancy taking the other route rather than repeating the same road back.
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    • Ah, I didn't see the waypoint you had added to the bottom of the map. I just assumed Google had suggested the same route your grandparents wanted to take. If you compare the two routes their preferred route is only 20km longer which in the grand scheme of things isn't very much time or petrol.
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    It turns out that there is a road, but you can't use it. See The Deal With Oprah Winfrey’s Private Maui Road for more details.




    And not just any road, either: Oprah’s road is concrete and asphalt 12 feet across. Goodfellow Brothers paved it in December 2010. The road stretches from the water tank at Kealakapu Road near Piilani Highway in Kihei to Keokoa, near Haleakala Highway. It’s a road locals have been waiting for 40 years — a potentially golden road that could radically ease traffic congestion in Central Maui.



    That is, if the public could use it, which it most certainly cannot. “The paved road, drainage swales and detention ponds will be privately maintained,” stated a June 2009 Drainage Report on the effects of paving the road prepared by Wayne I. Arakaki Engineer LLC for OW Ranch, LLC, (the initials reportedly stand for “Oprah Winfrey”) and kept on file with the Maui County Planning Department. “This is a private roadway and will not be open to the public.”







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      It turns out that there is a road, but you can't use it. See The Deal With Oprah Winfrey’s Private Maui Road for more details.




      And not just any road, either: Oprah’s road is concrete and asphalt 12 feet across. Goodfellow Brothers paved it in December 2010. The road stretches from the water tank at Kealakapu Road near Piilani Highway in Kihei to Keokoa, near Haleakala Highway. It’s a road locals have been waiting for 40 years — a potentially golden road that could radically ease traffic congestion in Central Maui.



      That is, if the public could use it, which it most certainly cannot. “The paved road, drainage swales and detention ponds will be privately maintained,” stated a June 2009 Drainage Report on the effects of paving the road prepared by Wayne I. Arakaki Engineer LLC for OW Ranch, LLC, (the initials reportedly stand for “Oprah Winfrey”) and kept on file with the Maui County Planning Department. “This is a private roadway and will not be open to the public.”







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        It turns out that there is a road, but you can't use it. See The Deal With Oprah Winfrey’s Private Maui Road for more details.




        And not just any road, either: Oprah’s road is concrete and asphalt 12 feet across. Goodfellow Brothers paved it in December 2010. The road stretches from the water tank at Kealakapu Road near Piilani Highway in Kihei to Keokoa, near Haleakala Highway. It’s a road locals have been waiting for 40 years — a potentially golden road that could radically ease traffic congestion in Central Maui.



        That is, if the public could use it, which it most certainly cannot. “The paved road, drainage swales and detention ponds will be privately maintained,” stated a June 2009 Drainage Report on the effects of paving the road prepared by Wayne I. Arakaki Engineer LLC for OW Ranch, LLC, (the initials reportedly stand for “Oprah Winfrey”) and kept on file with the Maui County Planning Department. “This is a private roadway and will not be open to the public.”







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        It turns out that there is a road, but you can't use it. See The Deal With Oprah Winfrey’s Private Maui Road for more details.




        And not just any road, either: Oprah’s road is concrete and asphalt 12 feet across. Goodfellow Brothers paved it in December 2010. The road stretches from the water tank at Kealakapu Road near Piilani Highway in Kihei to Keokoa, near Haleakala Highway. It’s a road locals have been waiting for 40 years — a potentially golden road that could radically ease traffic congestion in Central Maui.



        That is, if the public could use it, which it most certainly cannot. “The paved road, drainage swales and detention ponds will be privately maintained,” stated a June 2009 Drainage Report on the effects of paving the road prepared by Wayne I. Arakaki Engineer LLC for OW Ranch, LLC, (the initials reportedly stand for “Oprah Winfrey”) and kept on file with the Maui County Planning Department. “This is a private roadway and will not be open to the public.”








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            If you switch Google Maps to topology view you'll see that where your arrow lies goes from sea level to 600 meters (2000 feet) in the distance of 5km



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            That's a 12% incline for 5 kilometers. It's probably not too much of an issue going up that hill, but going down it you run the possibility of cooking your brakes over such a distance. Most people don't know how to shift down a gear to ease up on the braking.



            Secondly, I'm not sure why Google Maps has given you the route that it did as going clockwise around the island appears to be a much shorter journey



            enter image description here



            Perhaps there was bad traffic on the day you planned the journey?






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            • 'Secondly, I'm not sure why Google Maps has given you the route that it did as going clockwise around the island appears to be a much shorter journey' : It didn't. It recommended the northern route, but I deliberately chose the southern route. My grandparents fancy taking the other route rather than repeating the same road back.
              – Greek - Area 51 Proposal
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            • Ah, I didn't see the waypoint you had added to the bottom of the map. I just assumed Google had suggested the same route your grandparents wanted to take. If you compare the two routes their preferred route is only 20km longer which in the grand scheme of things isn't very much time or petrol.
              – Mark Henderson
              1 hour ago














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            If you switch Google Maps to topology view you'll see that where your arrow lies goes from sea level to 600 meters (2000 feet) in the distance of 5km



            enter image description here



            That's a 12% incline for 5 kilometers. It's probably not too much of an issue going up that hill, but going down it you run the possibility of cooking your brakes over such a distance. Most people don't know how to shift down a gear to ease up on the braking.



            Secondly, I'm not sure why Google Maps has given you the route that it did as going clockwise around the island appears to be a much shorter journey



            enter image description here



            Perhaps there was bad traffic on the day you planned the journey?






            share|improve this answer




















            • 'Secondly, I'm not sure why Google Maps has given you the route that it did as going clockwise around the island appears to be a much shorter journey' : It didn't. It recommended the northern route, but I deliberately chose the southern route. My grandparents fancy taking the other route rather than repeating the same road back.
              – Greek - Area 51 Proposal
              1 hour ago











            • Ah, I didn't see the waypoint you had added to the bottom of the map. I just assumed Google had suggested the same route your grandparents wanted to take. If you compare the two routes their preferred route is only 20km longer which in the grand scheme of things isn't very much time or petrol.
              – Mark Henderson
              1 hour ago












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            If you switch Google Maps to topology view you'll see that where your arrow lies goes from sea level to 600 meters (2000 feet) in the distance of 5km



            enter image description here



            That's a 12% incline for 5 kilometers. It's probably not too much of an issue going up that hill, but going down it you run the possibility of cooking your brakes over such a distance. Most people don't know how to shift down a gear to ease up on the braking.



            Secondly, I'm not sure why Google Maps has given you the route that it did as going clockwise around the island appears to be a much shorter journey



            enter image description here



            Perhaps there was bad traffic on the day you planned the journey?






            share|improve this answer












            If you switch Google Maps to topology view you'll see that where your arrow lies goes from sea level to 600 meters (2000 feet) in the distance of 5km



            enter image description here



            That's a 12% incline for 5 kilometers. It's probably not too much of an issue going up that hill, but going down it you run the possibility of cooking your brakes over such a distance. Most people don't know how to shift down a gear to ease up on the braking.



            Secondly, I'm not sure why Google Maps has given you the route that it did as going clockwise around the island appears to be a much shorter journey



            enter image description here



            Perhaps there was bad traffic on the day you planned the journey?







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            • 'Secondly, I'm not sure why Google Maps has given you the route that it did as going clockwise around the island appears to be a much shorter journey' : It didn't. It recommended the northern route, but I deliberately chose the southern route. My grandparents fancy taking the other route rather than repeating the same road back.
              – Greek - Area 51 Proposal
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            • Ah, I didn't see the waypoint you had added to the bottom of the map. I just assumed Google had suggested the same route your grandparents wanted to take. If you compare the two routes their preferred route is only 20km longer which in the grand scheme of things isn't very much time or petrol.
              – Mark Henderson
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            • 'Secondly, I'm not sure why Google Maps has given you the route that it did as going clockwise around the island appears to be a much shorter journey' : It didn't. It recommended the northern route, but I deliberately chose the southern route. My grandparents fancy taking the other route rather than repeating the same road back.
              – Greek - Area 51 Proposal
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            • Ah, I didn't see the waypoint you had added to the bottom of the map. I just assumed Google had suggested the same route your grandparents wanted to take. If you compare the two routes their preferred route is only 20km longer which in the grand scheme of things isn't very much time or petrol.
              – Mark Henderson
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            'Secondly, I'm not sure why Google Maps has given you the route that it did as going clockwise around the island appears to be a much shorter journey' : It didn't. It recommended the northern route, but I deliberately chose the southern route. My grandparents fancy taking the other route rather than repeating the same road back.
            – Greek - Area 51 Proposal
            1 hour ago





            'Secondly, I'm not sure why Google Maps has given you the route that it did as going clockwise around the island appears to be a much shorter journey' : It didn't. It recommended the northern route, but I deliberately chose the southern route. My grandparents fancy taking the other route rather than repeating the same road back.
            – Greek - Area 51 Proposal
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            Ah, I didn't see the waypoint you had added to the bottom of the map. I just assumed Google had suggested the same route your grandparents wanted to take. If you compare the two routes their preferred route is only 20km longer which in the grand scheme of things isn't very much time or petrol.
            – Mark Henderson
            1 hour ago




            Ah, I didn't see the waypoint you had added to the bottom of the map. I just assumed Google had suggested the same route your grandparents wanted to take. If you compare the two routes their preferred route is only 20km longer which in the grand scheme of things isn't very much time or petrol.
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