Two whole notes on the same measure, what does it mean?

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I'm starting to analyze the Slavic March by Tchaikovsky, on measures 6, 8 and 9 the Clarinet has these repeated whole notes, but I don't know what they mean (I'm not a clarinetist). The bassoon/fagotto is also has the same repeated whole notes on measure 8.



As far as I understand they're not the same as a "breve" since that wouldn't fit, is that correct?



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I'm starting to analyze the Slavic March by Tchaikovsky, on measures 6, 8 and 9 the Clarinet has these repeated whole notes, but I don't know what they mean (I'm not a clarinetist). The bassoon/fagotto is also has the same repeated whole notes on measure 8.



As far as I understand they're not the same as a "breve" since that wouldn't fit, is that correct?



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I'm starting to analyze the Slavic March by Tchaikovsky, on measures 6, 8 and 9 the Clarinet has these repeated whole notes, but I don't know what they mean (I'm not a clarinetist). The bassoon/fagotto is also has the same repeated whole notes on measure 8.



As far as I understand they're not the same as a "breve" since that wouldn't fit, is that correct?



Measures 5 - 9










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I'm starting to analyze the Slavic March by Tchaikovsky, on measures 6, 8 and 9 the Clarinet has these repeated whole notes, but I don't know what they mean (I'm not a clarinetist). The bassoon/fagotto is also has the same repeated whole notes on measure 8.



As far as I understand they're not the same as a "breve" since that wouldn't fit, is that correct?



Measures 5 - 9







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Do the bars before & after have two voices?
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There are two clarinets (and two bassoons) playing in unison. This notation is one way of accounting for all of the notes.



Note that for all of the stemmed notes, there are stems pointing in both directions. Stems up are for the 1st player, and stems down for the 2nd. But since a whole note has no stems, they write it like that.



It looks kinda silly, and has fallen out of favor in modern scores.






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    Looking at Fagotti, there are two voices written. It's easy to see, with up and down tails. When a semibreve is written there is no tail to determine whether it's fag 1 or fag 2, so two semibreves on the same note have to be written instead. Same ruling applies to all instruments, clarinets included.






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      There are two clarinets (and two bassoons) playing in unison. This notation is one way of accounting for all of the notes.



      Note that for all of the stemmed notes, there are stems pointing in both directions. Stems up are for the 1st player, and stems down for the 2nd. But since a whole note has no stems, they write it like that.



      It looks kinda silly, and has fallen out of favor in modern scores.






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        There are two clarinets (and two bassoons) playing in unison. This notation is one way of accounting for all of the notes.



        Note that for all of the stemmed notes, there are stems pointing in both directions. Stems up are for the 1st player, and stems down for the 2nd. But since a whole note has no stems, they write it like that.



        It looks kinda silly, and has fallen out of favor in modern scores.






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          There are two clarinets (and two bassoons) playing in unison. This notation is one way of accounting for all of the notes.



          Note that for all of the stemmed notes, there are stems pointing in both directions. Stems up are for the 1st player, and stems down for the 2nd. But since a whole note has no stems, they write it like that.



          It looks kinda silly, and has fallen out of favor in modern scores.






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          There are two clarinets (and two bassoons) playing in unison. This notation is one way of accounting for all of the notes.



          Note that for all of the stemmed notes, there are stems pointing in both directions. Stems up are for the 1st player, and stems down for the 2nd. But since a whole note has no stems, they write it like that.



          It looks kinda silly, and has fallen out of favor in modern scores.







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              Looking at Fagotti, there are two voices written. It's easy to see, with up and down tails. When a semibreve is written there is no tail to determine whether it's fag 1 or fag 2, so two semibreves on the same note have to be written instead. Same ruling applies to all instruments, clarinets included.






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                Looking at Fagotti, there are two voices written. It's easy to see, with up and down tails. When a semibreve is written there is no tail to determine whether it's fag 1 or fag 2, so two semibreves on the same note have to be written instead. Same ruling applies to all instruments, clarinets included.






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                  Looking at Fagotti, there are two voices written. It's easy to see, with up and down tails. When a semibreve is written there is no tail to determine whether it's fag 1 or fag 2, so two semibreves on the same note have to be written instead. Same ruling applies to all instruments, clarinets included.






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                  Looking at Fagotti, there are two voices written. It's easy to see, with up and down tails. When a semibreve is written there is no tail to determine whether it's fag 1 or fag 2, so two semibreves on the same note have to be written instead. Same ruling applies to all instruments, clarinets included.







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