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One of the characters in my current piece is autistic. I'm on the spectrum myself, so I have some idea of what this is like, but I'm starting to think that I might be basing her a bit too much on myself. Here's the main reasons I think this:
- Her role in the story is the radio operator, cryptographer and locksmith (basically, the resident hacker/electronics specialist). I'm a software engineer with an interest in IT security.
- Both of us tend to think out loud, regardless of whether it's appropriate. There is a plot point around this (and the accompanying inability to know when to shut up), but some of her non-sequiturs are shout outs/references to various sources I find amusing (and sometimes reference in test code).
- General obliviousness towards appearance - anyone's appearance.
- When initially drafting scenes that involve her, she always ends up making sarcastic comments without changing her expression. I snark a lot.
It strikes me that making her a gender-swapped copy of myself is unimaginative. How can I avoid this?
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One of the characters in my current piece is autistic. I'm on the spectrum myself, so I have some idea of what this is like, but I'm starting to think that I might be basing her a bit too much on myself. Here's the main reasons I think this:
- Her role in the story is the radio operator, cryptographer and locksmith (basically, the resident hacker/electronics specialist). I'm a software engineer with an interest in IT security.
- Both of us tend to think out loud, regardless of whether it's appropriate. There is a plot point around this (and the accompanying inability to know when to shut up), but some of her non-sequiturs are shout outs/references to various sources I find amusing (and sometimes reference in test code).
- General obliviousness towards appearance - anyone's appearance.
- When initially drafting scenes that involve her, she always ends up making sarcastic comments without changing her expression. I snark a lot.
It strikes me that making her a gender-swapped copy of myself is unimaginative. How can I avoid this?
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One of the characters in my current piece is autistic. I'm on the spectrum myself, so I have some idea of what this is like, but I'm starting to think that I might be basing her a bit too much on myself. Here's the main reasons I think this:
- Her role in the story is the radio operator, cryptographer and locksmith (basically, the resident hacker/electronics specialist). I'm a software engineer with an interest in IT security.
- Both of us tend to think out loud, regardless of whether it's appropriate. There is a plot point around this (and the accompanying inability to know when to shut up), but some of her non-sequiturs are shout outs/references to various sources I find amusing (and sometimes reference in test code).
- General obliviousness towards appearance - anyone's appearance.
- When initially drafting scenes that involve her, she always ends up making sarcastic comments without changing her expression. I snark a lot.
It strikes me that making her a gender-swapped copy of myself is unimaginative. How can I avoid this?
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One of the characters in my current piece is autistic. I'm on the spectrum myself, so I have some idea of what this is like, but I'm starting to think that I might be basing her a bit too much on myself. Here's the main reasons I think this:
- Her role in the story is the radio operator, cryptographer and locksmith (basically, the resident hacker/electronics specialist). I'm a software engineer with an interest in IT security.
- Both of us tend to think out loud, regardless of whether it's appropriate. There is a plot point around this (and the accompanying inability to know when to shut up), but some of her non-sequiturs are shout outs/references to various sources I find amusing (and sometimes reference in test code).
- General obliviousness towards appearance - anyone's appearance.
- When initially drafting scenes that involve her, she always ends up making sarcastic comments without changing her expression. I snark a lot.
It strikes me that making her a gender-swapped copy of myself is unimaginative. How can I avoid this?
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Most fiction and much of the best fiction comes from real life.
This even brings to mind the old writer's adage, "Write what you know." You haven't really said why you should change the details.
If The Story Is Good
If the story is good and the character is interesting and seems real there is good reason to not change things just because you identify with them. Also, most of those things are general characteristics that could be displayed by many people. That is a good thing, because it means your character is realistic.
However, if you don't want to be identified in the character that is reasonable and in that case you may just alter things to be analogous with the items you want to change.
Here are some examples:
- Instead of speaking out loud, maybe have the character whisper to herself. The character (Brick) in the sitcom The Middle does that.
- Maybe make the character hyper-aware of other people's attire.
"Why do you always wear ties? Ties are uncomfortable. I don't like
them."
- Make the character extremely polite. Always apologizing and opening
doors, and having others take the first slice of pizza, etc. - Finally, make the character a Nationally Recognized Chess Player instead of an technology person.
But, if you believe that all those changes have changed the character so much it is someone different, then now you know that the traits you pointed out are your character and they simply accurately describe the character you are trying to create.
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Speaking as a writer who's on the spectrum too, I can understand your concern. One of my recent WIPs had a supporting character who is obviously intended to be on the spectrum, although the story never says where, and she's been diagnosed for a while now and for her it's become quite mild, to the point her worries about it are disproportionate. That's partly because she's not the main focus of the story, and partly because she's 10 and I don't remember my social mistakes back then well enough to inject many of them into the story. I could have researched some that are true to someone else's experiences, but that would have been problematic for the same reason neither of us wants a character to mirror ourselves as authors too much.
You know, because we read a rule saying not to. No, I'm kidding; is because the character needs to be someone new, created for the needs of the story you're telling. That's not to say your locksmith mustn't be like you, but here are some tips:
- Read about other autistic people. I don't mean whole books; just a few articles will do. You could discover ways the condition may affect them that are unlike you. For example, this discussion of how autists feel misconstrued mentions that they're less liable to use or even understand sarcasm than is widely believed. Now, obviously a generalisation that goes entirely the other way would contradict your own snarkiness, so I'm not saying anything someone else has written gets you more accurately than you do yourself. But the aim of this is to think about what you really want her to be like.
- Read how autists have described their own experiences, especially the sensory aspects, and especially women. You owe it to yourself to read several paragraphs by Temple Grandin.
- Read The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-time. No diagnosis is stated, but the protagonist seems to be on the spectrum. Why?
You should get ideas for building a character as a hodge-podge that way. Ultimately, that's where all characters come from.
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Are you happy with your story and character in other ways? Is the only problem your worry that she's too much like you? If so, then I suggest you just keep writing. I assure you that the character you described isn't routine and boring. You're still using your imagination, even if you draw on your own life experiences and personality traits to round her out into a full person.
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What differences are there? Have you given her interests that you do not have? Perhaps traits that you lack?
Does she have likes and dislikes different from your own?
You mention similarities, but she must have more to her than what you have mentioned.
Take some of your other traits and flip them, then give some to her. We all have similarities, it is our differences that most people notice. In facial recognition, our brain creates a template to compare with known faces and does a quick comparison, sometimes erroneously, to see if a person is a match. If a person is not a match, then we note the differences.
Maybe she has a boa constrictor at home and when she talks about boas a passerby might think she means a feather one, not a real one.
She sounds like an interesting character, just give her a bit more that is unique to her. It is natural for some aspect of ourselves to be in some aspect of our characters, but our characters ought to be creations of our intellect, not reflections of it.
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Most fiction and much of the best fiction comes from real life.
This even brings to mind the old writer's adage, "Write what you know." You haven't really said why you should change the details.
If The Story Is Good
If the story is good and the character is interesting and seems real there is good reason to not change things just because you identify with them. Also, most of those things are general characteristics that could be displayed by many people. That is a good thing, because it means your character is realistic.
However, if you don't want to be identified in the character that is reasonable and in that case you may just alter things to be analogous with the items you want to change.
Here are some examples:
- Instead of speaking out loud, maybe have the character whisper to herself. The character (Brick) in the sitcom The Middle does that.
- Maybe make the character hyper-aware of other people's attire.
"Why do you always wear ties? Ties are uncomfortable. I don't like
them."
- Make the character extremely polite. Always apologizing and opening
doors, and having others take the first slice of pizza, etc. - Finally, make the character a Nationally Recognized Chess Player instead of an technology person.
But, if you believe that all those changes have changed the character so much it is someone different, then now you know that the traits you pointed out are your character and they simply accurately describe the character you are trying to create.
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Most fiction and much of the best fiction comes from real life.
This even brings to mind the old writer's adage, "Write what you know." You haven't really said why you should change the details.
If The Story Is Good
If the story is good and the character is interesting and seems real there is good reason to not change things just because you identify with them. Also, most of those things are general characteristics that could be displayed by many people. That is a good thing, because it means your character is realistic.
However, if you don't want to be identified in the character that is reasonable and in that case you may just alter things to be analogous with the items you want to change.
Here are some examples:
- Instead of speaking out loud, maybe have the character whisper to herself. The character (Brick) in the sitcom The Middle does that.
- Maybe make the character hyper-aware of other people's attire.
"Why do you always wear ties? Ties are uncomfortable. I don't like
them."
- Make the character extremely polite. Always apologizing and opening
doors, and having others take the first slice of pizza, etc. - Finally, make the character a Nationally Recognized Chess Player instead of an technology person.
But, if you believe that all those changes have changed the character so much it is someone different, then now you know that the traits you pointed out are your character and they simply accurately describe the character you are trying to create.
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Most fiction and much of the best fiction comes from real life.
This even brings to mind the old writer's adage, "Write what you know." You haven't really said why you should change the details.
If The Story Is Good
If the story is good and the character is interesting and seems real there is good reason to not change things just because you identify with them. Also, most of those things are general characteristics that could be displayed by many people. That is a good thing, because it means your character is realistic.
However, if you don't want to be identified in the character that is reasonable and in that case you may just alter things to be analogous with the items you want to change.
Here are some examples:
- Instead of speaking out loud, maybe have the character whisper to herself. The character (Brick) in the sitcom The Middle does that.
- Maybe make the character hyper-aware of other people's attire.
"Why do you always wear ties? Ties are uncomfortable. I don't like
them."
- Make the character extremely polite. Always apologizing and opening
doors, and having others take the first slice of pizza, etc. - Finally, make the character a Nationally Recognized Chess Player instead of an technology person.
But, if you believe that all those changes have changed the character so much it is someone different, then now you know that the traits you pointed out are your character and they simply accurately describe the character you are trying to create.
answered 2 hours ago
raddevus
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Most fiction and much of the best fiction comes from real life.
This even brings to mind the old writer's adage, "Write what you know." You haven't really said why you should change the details.
If The Story Is Good
If the story is good and the character is interesting and seems real there is good reason to not change things just because you identify with them. Also, most of those things are general characteristics that could be displayed by many people. That is a good thing, because it means your character is realistic.
However, if you don't want to be identified in the character that is reasonable and in that case you may just alter things to be analogous with the items you want to change.
Here are some examples:
- Instead of speaking out loud, maybe have the character whisper to herself. The character (Brick) in the sitcom The Middle does that.
- Maybe make the character hyper-aware of other people's attire.
"Why do you always wear ties? Ties are uncomfortable. I don't like
them."
- Make the character extremely polite. Always apologizing and opening
doors, and having others take the first slice of pizza, etc. - Finally, make the character a Nationally Recognized Chess Player instead of an technology person.
But, if you believe that all those changes have changed the character so much it is someone different, then now you know that the traits you pointed out are your character and they simply accurately describe the character you are trying to create.
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Speaking as a writer who's on the spectrum too, I can understand your concern. One of my recent WIPs had a supporting character who is obviously intended to be on the spectrum, although the story never says where, and she's been diagnosed for a while now and for her it's become quite mild, to the point her worries about it are disproportionate. That's partly because she's not the main focus of the story, and partly because she's 10 and I don't remember my social mistakes back then well enough to inject many of them into the story. I could have researched some that are true to someone else's experiences, but that would have been problematic for the same reason neither of us wants a character to mirror ourselves as authors too much.
You know, because we read a rule saying not to. No, I'm kidding; is because the character needs to be someone new, created for the needs of the story you're telling. That's not to say your locksmith mustn't be like you, but here are some tips:
- Read about other autistic people. I don't mean whole books; just a few articles will do. You could discover ways the condition may affect them that are unlike you. For example, this discussion of how autists feel misconstrued mentions that they're less liable to use or even understand sarcasm than is widely believed. Now, obviously a generalisation that goes entirely the other way would contradict your own snarkiness, so I'm not saying anything someone else has written gets you more accurately than you do yourself. But the aim of this is to think about what you really want her to be like.
- Read how autists have described their own experiences, especially the sensory aspects, and especially women. You owe it to yourself to read several paragraphs by Temple Grandin.
- Read The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-time. No diagnosis is stated, but the protagonist seems to be on the spectrum. Why?
You should get ideas for building a character as a hodge-podge that way. Ultimately, that's where all characters come from.
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Speaking as a writer who's on the spectrum too, I can understand your concern. One of my recent WIPs had a supporting character who is obviously intended to be on the spectrum, although the story never says where, and she's been diagnosed for a while now and for her it's become quite mild, to the point her worries about it are disproportionate. That's partly because she's not the main focus of the story, and partly because she's 10 and I don't remember my social mistakes back then well enough to inject many of them into the story. I could have researched some that are true to someone else's experiences, but that would have been problematic for the same reason neither of us wants a character to mirror ourselves as authors too much.
You know, because we read a rule saying not to. No, I'm kidding; is because the character needs to be someone new, created for the needs of the story you're telling. That's not to say your locksmith mustn't be like you, but here are some tips:
- Read about other autistic people. I don't mean whole books; just a few articles will do. You could discover ways the condition may affect them that are unlike you. For example, this discussion of how autists feel misconstrued mentions that they're less liable to use or even understand sarcasm than is widely believed. Now, obviously a generalisation that goes entirely the other way would contradict your own snarkiness, so I'm not saying anything someone else has written gets you more accurately than you do yourself. But the aim of this is to think about what you really want her to be like.
- Read how autists have described their own experiences, especially the sensory aspects, and especially women. You owe it to yourself to read several paragraphs by Temple Grandin.
- Read The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-time. No diagnosis is stated, but the protagonist seems to be on the spectrum. Why?
You should get ideas for building a character as a hodge-podge that way. Ultimately, that's where all characters come from.
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Speaking as a writer who's on the spectrum too, I can understand your concern. One of my recent WIPs had a supporting character who is obviously intended to be on the spectrum, although the story never says where, and she's been diagnosed for a while now and for her it's become quite mild, to the point her worries about it are disproportionate. That's partly because she's not the main focus of the story, and partly because she's 10 and I don't remember my social mistakes back then well enough to inject many of them into the story. I could have researched some that are true to someone else's experiences, but that would have been problematic for the same reason neither of us wants a character to mirror ourselves as authors too much.
You know, because we read a rule saying not to. No, I'm kidding; is because the character needs to be someone new, created for the needs of the story you're telling. That's not to say your locksmith mustn't be like you, but here are some tips:
- Read about other autistic people. I don't mean whole books; just a few articles will do. You could discover ways the condition may affect them that are unlike you. For example, this discussion of how autists feel misconstrued mentions that they're less liable to use or even understand sarcasm than is widely believed. Now, obviously a generalisation that goes entirely the other way would contradict your own snarkiness, so I'm not saying anything someone else has written gets you more accurately than you do yourself. But the aim of this is to think about what you really want her to be like.
- Read how autists have described their own experiences, especially the sensory aspects, and especially women. You owe it to yourself to read several paragraphs by Temple Grandin.
- Read The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-time. No diagnosis is stated, but the protagonist seems to be on the spectrum. Why?
You should get ideas for building a character as a hodge-podge that way. Ultimately, that's where all characters come from.
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Speaking as a writer who's on the spectrum too, I can understand your concern. One of my recent WIPs had a supporting character who is obviously intended to be on the spectrum, although the story never says where, and she's been diagnosed for a while now and for her it's become quite mild, to the point her worries about it are disproportionate. That's partly because she's not the main focus of the story, and partly because she's 10 and I don't remember my social mistakes back then well enough to inject many of them into the story. I could have researched some that are true to someone else's experiences, but that would have been problematic for the same reason neither of us wants a character to mirror ourselves as authors too much.
You know, because we read a rule saying not to. No, I'm kidding; is because the character needs to be someone new, created for the needs of the story you're telling. That's not to say your locksmith mustn't be like you, but here are some tips:
- Read about other autistic people. I don't mean whole books; just a few articles will do. You could discover ways the condition may affect them that are unlike you. For example, this discussion of how autists feel misconstrued mentions that they're less liable to use or even understand sarcasm than is widely believed. Now, obviously a generalisation that goes entirely the other way would contradict your own snarkiness, so I'm not saying anything someone else has written gets you more accurately than you do yourself. But the aim of this is to think about what you really want her to be like.
- Read how autists have described their own experiences, especially the sensory aspects, and especially women. You owe it to yourself to read several paragraphs by Temple Grandin.
- Read The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-time. No diagnosis is stated, but the protagonist seems to be on the spectrum. Why?
You should get ideas for building a character as a hodge-podge that way. Ultimately, that's where all characters come from.
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Are you happy with your story and character in other ways? Is the only problem your worry that she's too much like you? If so, then I suggest you just keep writing. I assure you that the character you described isn't routine and boring. You're still using your imagination, even if you draw on your own life experiences and personality traits to round her out into a full person.
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Are you happy with your story and character in other ways? Is the only problem your worry that she's too much like you? If so, then I suggest you just keep writing. I assure you that the character you described isn't routine and boring. You're still using your imagination, even if you draw on your own life experiences and personality traits to round her out into a full person.
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Are you happy with your story and character in other ways? Is the only problem your worry that she's too much like you? If so, then I suggest you just keep writing. I assure you that the character you described isn't routine and boring. You're still using your imagination, even if you draw on your own life experiences and personality traits to round her out into a full person.
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Are you happy with your story and character in other ways? Is the only problem your worry that she's too much like you? If so, then I suggest you just keep writing. I assure you that the character you described isn't routine and boring. You're still using your imagination, even if you draw on your own life experiences and personality traits to round her out into a full person.
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What differences are there? Have you given her interests that you do not have? Perhaps traits that you lack?
Does she have likes and dislikes different from your own?
You mention similarities, but she must have more to her than what you have mentioned.
Take some of your other traits and flip them, then give some to her. We all have similarities, it is our differences that most people notice. In facial recognition, our brain creates a template to compare with known faces and does a quick comparison, sometimes erroneously, to see if a person is a match. If a person is not a match, then we note the differences.
Maybe she has a boa constrictor at home and when she talks about boas a passerby might think she means a feather one, not a real one.
She sounds like an interesting character, just give her a bit more that is unique to her. It is natural for some aspect of ourselves to be in some aspect of our characters, but our characters ought to be creations of our intellect, not reflections of it.
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What differences are there? Have you given her interests that you do not have? Perhaps traits that you lack?
Does she have likes and dislikes different from your own?
You mention similarities, but she must have more to her than what you have mentioned.
Take some of your other traits and flip them, then give some to her. We all have similarities, it is our differences that most people notice. In facial recognition, our brain creates a template to compare with known faces and does a quick comparison, sometimes erroneously, to see if a person is a match. If a person is not a match, then we note the differences.
Maybe she has a boa constrictor at home and when she talks about boas a passerby might think she means a feather one, not a real one.
She sounds like an interesting character, just give her a bit more that is unique to her. It is natural for some aspect of ourselves to be in some aspect of our characters, but our characters ought to be creations of our intellect, not reflections of it.
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What differences are there? Have you given her interests that you do not have? Perhaps traits that you lack?
Does she have likes and dislikes different from your own?
You mention similarities, but she must have more to her than what you have mentioned.
Take some of your other traits and flip them, then give some to her. We all have similarities, it is our differences that most people notice. In facial recognition, our brain creates a template to compare with known faces and does a quick comparison, sometimes erroneously, to see if a person is a match. If a person is not a match, then we note the differences.
Maybe she has a boa constrictor at home and when she talks about boas a passerby might think she means a feather one, not a real one.
She sounds like an interesting character, just give her a bit more that is unique to her. It is natural for some aspect of ourselves to be in some aspect of our characters, but our characters ought to be creations of our intellect, not reflections of it.
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What differences are there? Have you given her interests that you do not have? Perhaps traits that you lack?
Does she have likes and dislikes different from your own?
You mention similarities, but she must have more to her than what you have mentioned.
Take some of your other traits and flip them, then give some to her. We all have similarities, it is our differences that most people notice. In facial recognition, our brain creates a template to compare with known faces and does a quick comparison, sometimes erroneously, to see if a person is a match. If a person is not a match, then we note the differences.
Maybe she has a boa constrictor at home and when she talks about boas a passerby might think she means a feather one, not a real one.
She sounds like an interesting character, just give her a bit more that is unique to her. It is natural for some aspect of ourselves to be in some aspect of our characters, but our characters ought to be creations of our intellect, not reflections of it.
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