Are saddles required to ride flying mounts?

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Regarding saddles, the basic rules note:




Saddles. A military saddle braces the rider, helping you keep your
seat on an active mount in battle. It gives you advantage on any check
you make to remain mounted. An exotic saddle is required for riding
any aquatic or flying mount.




As a comment to this question, one commenter wrote those statements to mean that saddles are required for flying mounts. Another commenter wrote that his interpretation is that saddles are not required for flying mounts - exotic saddles only confer advantage when used.



Are saddles required for flying mounts? Has this been clarified anywhere else in rules, adventures, or comments by the game designers?










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    Regarding saddles, the basic rules note:




    Saddles. A military saddle braces the rider, helping you keep your
    seat on an active mount in battle. It gives you advantage on any check
    you make to remain mounted. An exotic saddle is required for riding
    any aquatic or flying mount.




    As a comment to this question, one commenter wrote those statements to mean that saddles are required for flying mounts. Another commenter wrote that his interpretation is that saddles are not required for flying mounts - exotic saddles only confer advantage when used.



    Are saddles required for flying mounts? Has this been clarified anywhere else in rules, adventures, or comments by the game designers?










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      Regarding saddles, the basic rules note:




      Saddles. A military saddle braces the rider, helping you keep your
      seat on an active mount in battle. It gives you advantage on any check
      you make to remain mounted. An exotic saddle is required for riding
      any aquatic or flying mount.




      As a comment to this question, one commenter wrote those statements to mean that saddles are required for flying mounts. Another commenter wrote that his interpretation is that saddles are not required for flying mounts - exotic saddles only confer advantage when used.



      Are saddles required for flying mounts? Has this been clarified anywhere else in rules, adventures, or comments by the game designers?










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      Regarding saddles, the basic rules note:




      Saddles. A military saddle braces the rider, helping you keep your
      seat on an active mount in battle. It gives you advantage on any check
      you make to remain mounted. An exotic saddle is required for riding
      any aquatic or flying mount.




      As a comment to this question, one commenter wrote those statements to mean that saddles are required for flying mounts. Another commenter wrote that his interpretation is that saddles are not required for flying mounts - exotic saddles only confer advantage when used.



      Are saddles required for flying mounts? Has this been clarified anywhere else in rules, adventures, or comments by the game designers?







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          The section of the rules that you quoted is pretty clear that exotic saddles are required for flying mounts RAW. I think the confusion is coming because that paragraph describes 2 distinct kinds of saddle (Military and Exotic) without highlighting when the focus shifts from one to another:




          Saddles. A military saddle braces the rider, helping you keep your seat on an active mount in battle. It gives you advantage on any check you make to remain mounted. An exotic saddle is required for riding any aquatic or flying mount.




          The first 2 sentences describe the Military Saddle which grants advantage on checks to remain mounted, while the 3rd sentence is talking about the Exotic Saddle which is a different item and is required for riding aquatic or flying mounts.



          If you look further down the page, you'll find a Saddle Table that makes it clear that the "exotic saddle" it refers to is a distinct kind of item (which costs 60gp vs. 20gp for a Military saddle), not just a strange kind of saddle.






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          • Good info but I don't see that this answers the question. One can take the intent of the third sentence being added, as just making sure you don't get away with buying the cheaper military saddle for only 20gp to get advantage on staying mounted on a flying mount; the kind you need to buy is the more expense "exotic saddle".
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          • @ValleyLad While it's certainly not a clearly written paragraph, I would argue that "An exotic saddle is required for riding any aquatic or flying mount" is pretty unambiguous. There are 4 different types of saddle - only the Military Saddle is called out as granting advantage. If that ability was meant to apply to other saddles, it would say so. In fact, RAW, the Exotic saddle doesn't grant advantage at all (only the Military saddle does), it just gives you the ability to hold onto a Griffon of Sea Serpent without falling off.
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          Based on this:




          An exotic saddle is required for riding any aquatic or flying mount




          I would say its pretty clear that an exotic saddle is required for riding an aquatic or flying mount.



          As the DM, I suppose you could impose or require Dexterity-based skills/saves to "hang on" to a flying mount.






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          The section of the rules that you quoted is pretty clear that exotic saddles are required for flying mounts RAW. I think the confusion is coming because that paragraph describes 2 distinct kinds of saddle (Military and Exotic) without highlighting when the focus shifts from one to another:




          Saddles. A military saddle braces the rider, helping you keep your seat on an active mount in battle. It gives you advantage on any check you make to remain mounted. An exotic saddle is required for riding any aquatic or flying mount.




          The first 2 sentences describe the Military Saddle which grants advantage on checks to remain mounted, while the 3rd sentence is talking about the Exotic Saddle which is a different item and is required for riding aquatic or flying mounts.



          If you look further down the page, you'll find a Saddle Table that makes it clear that the "exotic saddle" it refers to is a distinct kind of item (which costs 60gp vs. 20gp for a Military saddle), not just a strange kind of saddle.






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          • Good info but I don't see that this answers the question. One can take the intent of the third sentence being added, as just making sure you don't get away with buying the cheaper military saddle for only 20gp to get advantage on staying mounted on a flying mount; the kind you need to buy is the more expense "exotic saddle".
            – Valley Lad
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          • @ValleyLad While it's certainly not a clearly written paragraph, I would argue that "An exotic saddle is required for riding any aquatic or flying mount" is pretty unambiguous. There are 4 different types of saddle - only the Military Saddle is called out as granting advantage. If that ability was meant to apply to other saddles, it would say so. In fact, RAW, the Exotic saddle doesn't grant advantage at all (only the Military saddle does), it just gives you the ability to hold onto a Griffon of Sea Serpent without falling off.
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          The section of the rules that you quoted is pretty clear that exotic saddles are required for flying mounts RAW. I think the confusion is coming because that paragraph describes 2 distinct kinds of saddle (Military and Exotic) without highlighting when the focus shifts from one to another:




          Saddles. A military saddle braces the rider, helping you keep your seat on an active mount in battle. It gives you advantage on any check you make to remain mounted. An exotic saddle is required for riding any aquatic or flying mount.




          The first 2 sentences describe the Military Saddle which grants advantage on checks to remain mounted, while the 3rd sentence is talking about the Exotic Saddle which is a different item and is required for riding aquatic or flying mounts.



          If you look further down the page, you'll find a Saddle Table that makes it clear that the "exotic saddle" it refers to is a distinct kind of item (which costs 60gp vs. 20gp for a Military saddle), not just a strange kind of saddle.






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          • Good info but I don't see that this answers the question. One can take the intent of the third sentence being added, as just making sure you don't get away with buying the cheaper military saddle for only 20gp to get advantage on staying mounted on a flying mount; the kind you need to buy is the more expense "exotic saddle".
            – Valley Lad
            16 mins ago










          • @ValleyLad While it's certainly not a clearly written paragraph, I would argue that "An exotic saddle is required for riding any aquatic or flying mount" is pretty unambiguous. There are 4 different types of saddle - only the Military Saddle is called out as granting advantage. If that ability was meant to apply to other saddles, it would say so. In fact, RAW, the Exotic saddle doesn't grant advantage at all (only the Military saddle does), it just gives you the ability to hold onto a Griffon of Sea Serpent without falling off.
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          The section of the rules that you quoted is pretty clear that exotic saddles are required for flying mounts RAW. I think the confusion is coming because that paragraph describes 2 distinct kinds of saddle (Military and Exotic) without highlighting when the focus shifts from one to another:




          Saddles. A military saddle braces the rider, helping you keep your seat on an active mount in battle. It gives you advantage on any check you make to remain mounted. An exotic saddle is required for riding any aquatic or flying mount.




          The first 2 sentences describe the Military Saddle which grants advantage on checks to remain mounted, while the 3rd sentence is talking about the Exotic Saddle which is a different item and is required for riding aquatic or flying mounts.



          If you look further down the page, you'll find a Saddle Table that makes it clear that the "exotic saddle" it refers to is a distinct kind of item (which costs 60gp vs. 20gp for a Military saddle), not just a strange kind of saddle.






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          The section of the rules that you quoted is pretty clear that exotic saddles are required for flying mounts RAW. I think the confusion is coming because that paragraph describes 2 distinct kinds of saddle (Military and Exotic) without highlighting when the focus shifts from one to another:




          Saddles. A military saddle braces the rider, helping you keep your seat on an active mount in battle. It gives you advantage on any check you make to remain mounted. An exotic saddle is required for riding any aquatic or flying mount.




          The first 2 sentences describe the Military Saddle which grants advantage on checks to remain mounted, while the 3rd sentence is talking about the Exotic Saddle which is a different item and is required for riding aquatic or flying mounts.



          If you look further down the page, you'll find a Saddle Table that makes it clear that the "exotic saddle" it refers to is a distinct kind of item (which costs 60gp vs. 20gp for a Military saddle), not just a strange kind of saddle.







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          • Good info but I don't see that this answers the question. One can take the intent of the third sentence being added, as just making sure you don't get away with buying the cheaper military saddle for only 20gp to get advantage on staying mounted on a flying mount; the kind you need to buy is the more expense "exotic saddle".
            – Valley Lad
            16 mins ago










          • @ValleyLad While it's certainly not a clearly written paragraph, I would argue that "An exotic saddle is required for riding any aquatic or flying mount" is pretty unambiguous. There are 4 different types of saddle - only the Military Saddle is called out as granting advantage. If that ability was meant to apply to other saddles, it would say so. In fact, RAW, the Exotic saddle doesn't grant advantage at all (only the Military saddle does), it just gives you the ability to hold onto a Griffon of Sea Serpent without falling off.
            – divibisan
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          • Good info but I don't see that this answers the question. One can take the intent of the third sentence being added, as just making sure you don't get away with buying the cheaper military saddle for only 20gp to get advantage on staying mounted on a flying mount; the kind you need to buy is the more expense "exotic saddle".
            – Valley Lad
            16 mins ago










          • @ValleyLad While it's certainly not a clearly written paragraph, I would argue that "An exotic saddle is required for riding any aquatic or flying mount" is pretty unambiguous. There are 4 different types of saddle - only the Military Saddle is called out as granting advantage. If that ability was meant to apply to other saddles, it would say so. In fact, RAW, the Exotic saddle doesn't grant advantage at all (only the Military saddle does), it just gives you the ability to hold onto a Griffon of Sea Serpent without falling off.
            – divibisan
            6 mins ago















          Good info but I don't see that this answers the question. One can take the intent of the third sentence being added, as just making sure you don't get away with buying the cheaper military saddle for only 20gp to get advantage on staying mounted on a flying mount; the kind you need to buy is the more expense "exotic saddle".
          – Valley Lad
          16 mins ago




          Good info but I don't see that this answers the question. One can take the intent of the third sentence being added, as just making sure you don't get away with buying the cheaper military saddle for only 20gp to get advantage on staying mounted on a flying mount; the kind you need to buy is the more expense "exotic saddle".
          – Valley Lad
          16 mins ago












          @ValleyLad While it's certainly not a clearly written paragraph, I would argue that "An exotic saddle is required for riding any aquatic or flying mount" is pretty unambiguous. There are 4 different types of saddle - only the Military Saddle is called out as granting advantage. If that ability was meant to apply to other saddles, it would say so. In fact, RAW, the Exotic saddle doesn't grant advantage at all (only the Military saddle does), it just gives you the ability to hold onto a Griffon of Sea Serpent without falling off.
          – divibisan
          6 mins ago




          @ValleyLad While it's certainly not a clearly written paragraph, I would argue that "An exotic saddle is required for riding any aquatic or flying mount" is pretty unambiguous. There are 4 different types of saddle - only the Military Saddle is called out as granting advantage. If that ability was meant to apply to other saddles, it would say so. In fact, RAW, the Exotic saddle doesn't grant advantage at all (only the Military saddle does), it just gives you the ability to hold onto a Griffon of Sea Serpent without falling off.
          – divibisan
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          Based on this:




          An exotic saddle is required for riding any aquatic or flying mount




          I would say its pretty clear that an exotic saddle is required for riding an aquatic or flying mount.



          As the DM, I suppose you could impose or require Dexterity-based skills/saves to "hang on" to a flying mount.






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          • You're kind of straddling the fence here. It may be as simple as organizing your answer with the RAW response, but suggesting an untested houserule that isn't fully baked doesn't really help your answer.
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          Based on this:




          An exotic saddle is required for riding any aquatic or flying mount




          I would say its pretty clear that an exotic saddle is required for riding an aquatic or flying mount.



          As the DM, I suppose you could impose or require Dexterity-based skills/saves to "hang on" to a flying mount.






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          Based on this:




          An exotic saddle is required for riding any aquatic or flying mount




          I would say its pretty clear that an exotic saddle is required for riding an aquatic or flying mount.



          As the DM, I suppose you could impose or require Dexterity-based skills/saves to "hang on" to a flying mount.






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          Based on this:




          An exotic saddle is required for riding any aquatic or flying mount




          I would say its pretty clear that an exotic saddle is required for riding an aquatic or flying mount.



          As the DM, I suppose you could impose or require Dexterity-based skills/saves to "hang on" to a flying mount.







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          • You're kind of straddling the fence here. It may be as simple as organizing your answer with the RAW response, but suggesting an untested houserule that isn't fully baked doesn't really help your answer.
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          • You're kind of straddling the fence here. It may be as simple as organizing your answer with the RAW response, but suggesting an untested houserule that isn't fully baked doesn't really help your answer.
            – NautArch
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          You're kind of straddling the fence here. It may be as simple as organizing your answer with the RAW response, but suggesting an untested houserule that isn't fully baked doesn't really help your answer.
          – NautArch
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          You're kind of straddling the fence here. It may be as simple as organizing your answer with the RAW response, but suggesting an untested houserule that isn't fully baked doesn't really help your answer.
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