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Will a PSU rate-limit device's power consumption?
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I have a Computer with a 450w rated PSU. I assume ~80 efficiency which brings me down to 360 for the computer. My video card (gtx 1060) max consumption is somewhere between 120-134
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Let's say I put in a second card for crypto-mining purposes. If I reach my allotted 360, which is quite doable, will my PSU handle that gracefully by limiting the amount of power going IN to my devices, is my computer just going to shut off, or am I going to ruin parts on my PC?
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I have a Computer with a 450w rated PSU. I assume ~80 efficiency which brings me down to 360 for the computer. My video card (gtx 1060) max consumption is somewhere between 120-134
Question
Let's say I put in a second card for crypto-mining purposes. If I reach my allotted 360, which is quite doable, will my PSU handle that gracefully by limiting the amount of power going IN to my devices, is my computer just going to shut off, or am I going to ruin parts on my PC?
power-supply power-consumption
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You're going to have a really hard time making any money GPU mining nowadays.
– Layne Bernardo
2 hours ago
@LayneBernardo I've noticed. Do you have any recommended alternatives?
– Jacksonkr
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I don't, but whattomine.com does :). Your best bet is probably a scrypt ASIC miner.
– Layne Bernardo
2 hours ago
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I have a Computer with a 450w rated PSU. I assume ~80 efficiency which brings me down to 360 for the computer. My video card (gtx 1060) max consumption is somewhere between 120-134
Question
Let's say I put in a second card for crypto-mining purposes. If I reach my allotted 360, which is quite doable, will my PSU handle that gracefully by limiting the amount of power going IN to my devices, is my computer just going to shut off, or am I going to ruin parts on my PC?
power-supply power-consumption
asked 3 hours ago
Jacksonkr
168210
Scenario
I have a Computer with a 450w rated PSU. I assume ~80 efficiency which brings me down to 360 for the computer. My video card (gtx 1060) max consumption is somewhere between 120-134
Question
Let's say I put in a second card for crypto-mining purposes. If I reach my allotted 360, which is quite doable, will my PSU handle that gracefully by limiting the amount of power going IN to my devices, is my computer just going to shut off, or am I going to ruin parts on my PC?
power-supply power-consumption
power-supply power-consumption
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Jacksonkr
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Jacksonkr
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Jacksonkr
168210
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Jacksonkr
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Jacksonkr
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You're going to have a really hard time making any money GPU mining nowadays.
– Layne Bernardo
2 hours ago
@LayneBernardo I've noticed. Do you have any recommended alternatives?
– Jacksonkr
2 hours ago
1
I don't, but whattomine.com does :). Your best bet is probably a scrypt ASIC miner.
– Layne Bernardo
2 hours ago
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1
You're going to have a really hard time making any money GPU mining nowadays.
– Layne Bernardo
2 hours ago
@LayneBernardo I've noticed. Do you have any recommended alternatives?
– Jacksonkr
2 hours ago
1
I don't, but whattomine.com does :). Your best bet is probably a scrypt ASIC miner.
– Layne Bernardo
2 hours ago
1
1
You're going to have a really hard time making any money GPU mining nowadays.
– Layne Bernardo
2 hours ago
You're going to have a really hard time making any money GPU mining nowadays.
– Layne Bernardo
2 hours ago
@LayneBernardo I've noticed. Do you have any recommended alternatives?
– Jacksonkr
2 hours ago
@LayneBernardo I've noticed. Do you have any recommended alternatives?
– Jacksonkr
2 hours ago
1
1
I don't, but whattomine.com does :). Your best bet is probably a scrypt ASIC miner.
– Layne Bernardo
2 hours ago
I don't, but whattomine.com does :). Your best bet is probably a scrypt ASIC miner.
– Layne Bernardo
2 hours ago
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Power supplies are supposed to output 100% of their rated value.
80% efficient means a 450w psu might draw 540w from the outlet.
High end power supplies have overload protection built-in, and they will shut off a certain cut off. Medium end power supplies generally don't have as good protection, and of course low end generic knock off have little to none.
If they have these protections they generally advertise it on the package. Low end power supplies can put your system at risk especially when using most of the PSU capacity.
However, there are tricks, if you read the fine print some PSU have statements like you can only get the maximum watts at 70 degree Fahrenheit. Reading the fine print,checking the fine print, and not buying power supplies that are too good to be true. ie 500w PSU for $10, run, run away.
High end supplies will protect against all, but near direct lighting strikes and nothing survives that.
You need to monitor the voltages on the line, each of the main voltages (3.3v,5v,and 12v) need to be + or - 5% of there rated values. For example 12v needs to be >11.4 and <12.6v. As long as you stay in these ranges the equipment should be safe, although you should aim for as close to 12v as possible.
Note here: 
The 3.3v and 5v have a combined max of 125w. So you need to take that into consideration when computing your needs.
This one the channels are supposed to be 100% independent of each other, but you may still have to check the manual to verify this especially if they are rated for the exact same number of amps/watts.
Here's another gotcha. 
Here: The 12v says 12v1 and 12v2 making it look like independent values, but it says 360w max below spanning both 12v1 and 12v2 indicating they come from a common 12v source.
Also 12v* 18a=216w and if you have independent 12v1 and 12v2 then the total should be 432w. Instead its limited to 360w gotcha. The 3.3v and 5v also a suffer as the combined max is 17.8w lower the total wattage for 3.3 and 5v added together.
Also note 14 gauge wire is rated for 15a and 12 gauge wire is required for 20a. Each set of wires coming out of the PSU is limited by the wire gauge. If you go over the wire will start over heating, melt(under extreme overload), and eventually short circuit after the insulator melts. The more you go over the worse it is, if your 10-20w over it probably won't melt but the wires will be warm.
Here's a couple good PSU reads.
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-psus,4229.html
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/why-power-supplies-fail-psus,36712.html
answered 3 hours ago
cybernard
9,41131322
Where are you seeing that the Diablotek PSUl575 has independently rated rails?
– Layne Bernardo
2 hours ago
@LayneBernardo, first I said its supposed to. Because the 3.3v,5v, and 12v have there own independent boxes. Note the rectangle in the previous picture the 125w is half between the 3.3v and 5v column with no line separating them.
– cybernard
2 hours ago
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If your PSU is rated for 450W it will put out 450W. The efficiency rating is how much power it loses in the process of providing 450W. In other words, it may be providing 450W to your computer, but it will be drawing 540W from the wall.
If you use more power than it can provide, your PSU will either detect the overcurrent and shut down, or it will overheat. If it overheats, it will detect that it's overheating and shut down.
It won't gracefully shut down your computer, it will just turn off all of a sudden.
answered 2 hours ago
Layne Bernardo
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Power supplies are supposed to output 100% of their rated value.
80% efficient means a 450w psu might draw 540w from the outlet.
High end power supplies have overload protection built-in, and they will shut off a certain cut off. Medium end power supplies generally don't have as good protection, and of course low end generic knock off have little to none.
If they have these protections they generally advertise it on the package. Low end power supplies can put your system at risk especially when using most of the PSU capacity.
However, there are tricks, if you read the fine print some PSU have statements like you can only get the maximum watts at 70 degree Fahrenheit. Reading the fine print,checking the fine print, and not buying power supplies that are too good to be true. ie 500w PSU for $10, run, run away.
High end supplies will protect against all, but near direct lighting strikes and nothing survives that.
You need to monitor the voltages on the line, each of the main voltages (3.3v,5v,and 12v) need to be + or - 5% of there rated values. For example 12v needs to be >11.4 and <12.6v. As long as you stay in these ranges the equipment should be safe, although you should aim for as close to 12v as possible.
Note here:
The 3.3v and 5v have a combined max of 125w. So you need to take that into consideration when computing your needs.
This one the channels are supposed to be 100% independent of each other, but you may still have to check the manual to verify this especially if they are rated for the exact same number of amps/watts.
Here's another gotcha.
Here: The 12v says 12v1 and 12v2 making it look like independent values, but it says 360w max below spanning both 12v1 and 12v2 indicating they come from a common 12v source.
Also 12v* 18a=216w and if you have independent 12v1 and 12v2 then the total should be 432w. Instead its limited to 360w gotcha. The 3.3v and 5v also a suffer as the combined max is 17.8w lower the total wattage for 3.3 and 5v added together.
Also note 14 gauge wire is rated for 15a and 12 gauge wire is required for 20a. Each set of wires coming out of the PSU is limited by the wire gauge. If you go over the wire will start over heating, melt(under extreme overload), and eventually short circuit after the insulator melts. The more you go over the worse it is, if your 10-20w over it probably won't melt but the wires will be warm.
Here's a couple good PSU reads.
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-psus,4229.html
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/why-power-supplies-fail-psus,36712.html
answered 3 hours ago
cybernard
9,41131322
Where are you seeing that the Diablotek PSUl575 has independently rated rails?
– Layne Bernardo
2 hours ago
@LayneBernardo, first I said its supposed to. Because the 3.3v,5v, and 12v have there own independent boxes. Note the rectangle in the previous picture the 125w is half between the 3.3v and 5v column with no line separating them.
– cybernard
2 hours ago
add a comment |Â
up vote
5
down vote
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Power supplies are supposed to output 100% of their rated value.
80% efficient means a 450w psu might draw 540w from the outlet.
High end power supplies have overload protection built-in, and they will shut off a certain cut off. Medium end power supplies generally don't have as good protection, and of course low end generic knock off have little to none.
If they have these protections they generally advertise it on the package. Low end power supplies can put your system at risk especially when using most of the PSU capacity.
However, there are tricks, if you read the fine print some PSU have statements like you can only get the maximum watts at 70 degree Fahrenheit. Reading the fine print,checking the fine print, and not buying power supplies that are too good to be true. ie 500w PSU for $10, run, run away.
High end supplies will protect against all, but near direct lighting strikes and nothing survives that.
You need to monitor the voltages on the line, each of the main voltages (3.3v,5v,and 12v) need to be + or - 5% of there rated values. For example 12v needs to be >11.4 and <12.6v. As long as you stay in these ranges the equipment should be safe, although you should aim for as close to 12v as possible.
Note here:
The 3.3v and 5v have a combined max of 125w. So you need to take that into consideration when computing your needs.
This one the channels are supposed to be 100% independent of each other, but you may still have to check the manual to verify this especially if they are rated for the exact same number of amps/watts.
Here's another gotcha.
Here: The 12v says 12v1 and 12v2 making it look like independent values, but it says 360w max below spanning both 12v1 and 12v2 indicating they come from a common 12v source.
Also 12v* 18a=216w and if you have independent 12v1 and 12v2 then the total should be 432w. Instead its limited to 360w gotcha. The 3.3v and 5v also a suffer as the combined max is 17.8w lower the total wattage for 3.3 and 5v added together.
Also note 14 gauge wire is rated for 15a and 12 gauge wire is required for 20a. Each set of wires coming out of the PSU is limited by the wire gauge. If you go over the wire will start over heating, melt(under extreme overload), and eventually short circuit after the insulator melts. The more you go over the worse it is, if your 10-20w over it probably won't melt but the wires will be warm.
Here's a couple good PSU reads.
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-psus,4229.html
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/why-power-supplies-fail-psus,36712.html
answered 3 hours ago
cybernard
9,41131322
Where are you seeing that the Diablotek PSUl575 has independently rated rails?
– Layne Bernardo
2 hours ago
@LayneBernardo, first I said its supposed to. Because the 3.3v,5v, and 12v have there own independent boxes. Note the rectangle in the previous picture the 125w is half between the 3.3v and 5v column with no line separating them.
– cybernard
2 hours ago
add a comment |Â
up vote
5
down vote
accepted
up vote
5
down vote
accepted
Power supplies are supposed to output 100% of their rated value.
80% efficient means a 450w psu might draw 540w from the outlet.
High end power supplies have overload protection built-in, and they will shut off a certain cut off. Medium end power supplies generally don't have as good protection, and of course low end generic knock off have little to none.
If they have these protections they generally advertise it on the package. Low end power supplies can put your system at risk especially when using most of the PSU capacity.
However, there are tricks, if you read the fine print some PSU have statements like you can only get the maximum watts at 70 degree Fahrenheit. Reading the fine print,checking the fine print, and not buying power supplies that are too good to be true. ie 500w PSU for $10, run, run away.
High end supplies will protect against all, but near direct lighting strikes and nothing survives that.
You need to monitor the voltages on the line, each of the main voltages (3.3v,5v,and 12v) need to be + or - 5% of there rated values. For example 12v needs to be >11.4 and <12.6v. As long as you stay in these ranges the equipment should be safe, although you should aim for as close to 12v as possible.
Note here:
The 3.3v and 5v have a combined max of 125w. So you need to take that into consideration when computing your needs.
This one the channels are supposed to be 100% independent of each other, but you may still have to check the manual to verify this especially if they are rated for the exact same number of amps/watts.
Here's another gotcha.
Here: The 12v says 12v1 and 12v2 making it look like independent values, but it says 360w max below spanning both 12v1 and 12v2 indicating they come from a common 12v source.
Also 12v* 18a=216w and if you have independent 12v1 and 12v2 then the total should be 432w. Instead its limited to 360w gotcha. The 3.3v and 5v also a suffer as the combined max is 17.8w lower the total wattage for 3.3 and 5v added together.
Also note 14 gauge wire is rated for 15a and 12 gauge wire is required for 20a. Each set of wires coming out of the PSU is limited by the wire gauge. If you go over the wire will start over heating, melt(under extreme overload), and eventually short circuit after the insulator melts. The more you go over the worse it is, if your 10-20w over it probably won't melt but the wires will be warm.
Here's a couple good PSU reads.
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-psus,4229.html
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/why-power-supplies-fail-psus,36712.html
answered 3 hours ago
cybernard
9,41131322
Power supplies are supposed to output 100% of their rated value.
80% efficient means a 450w psu might draw 540w from the outlet.
High end power supplies have overload protection built-in, and they will shut off a certain cut off. Medium end power supplies generally don't have as good protection, and of course low end generic knock off have little to none.
If they have these protections they generally advertise it on the package. Low end power supplies can put your system at risk especially when using most of the PSU capacity.
However, there are tricks, if you read the fine print some PSU have statements like you can only get the maximum watts at 70 degree Fahrenheit. Reading the fine print,checking the fine print, and not buying power supplies that are too good to be true. ie 500w PSU for $10, run, run away.
High end supplies will protect against all, but near direct lighting strikes and nothing survives that.
You need to monitor the voltages on the line, each of the main voltages (3.3v,5v,and 12v) need to be + or - 5% of there rated values. For example 12v needs to be >11.4 and <12.6v. As long as you stay in these ranges the equipment should be safe, although you should aim for as close to 12v as possible.
Note here:
The 3.3v and 5v have a combined max of 125w. So you need to take that into consideration when computing your needs.
This one the channels are supposed to be 100% independent of each other, but you may still have to check the manual to verify this especially if they are rated for the exact same number of amps/watts.
Here's another gotcha.
Here: The 12v says 12v1 and 12v2 making it look like independent values, but it says 360w max below spanning both 12v1 and 12v2 indicating they come from a common 12v source.
Also 12v* 18a=216w and if you have independent 12v1 and 12v2 then the total should be 432w. Instead its limited to 360w gotcha. The 3.3v and 5v also a suffer as the combined max is 17.8w lower the total wattage for 3.3 and 5v added together.
Also note 14 gauge wire is rated for 15a and 12 gauge wire is required for 20a. Each set of wires coming out of the PSU is limited by the wire gauge. If you go over the wire will start over heating, melt(under extreme overload), and eventually short circuit after the insulator melts. The more you go over the worse it is, if your 10-20w over it probably won't melt but the wires will be warm.
Here's a couple good PSU reads.
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-psus,4229.html
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/why-power-supplies-fail-psus,36712.html
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Where are you seeing that the Diablotek PSUl575 has independently rated rails?
– Layne Bernardo
2 hours ago
@LayneBernardo, first I said its supposed to. Because the 3.3v,5v, and 12v have there own independent boxes. Note the rectangle in the previous picture the 125w is half between the 3.3v and 5v column with no line separating them.
– cybernard
2 hours ago
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Where are you seeing that the Diablotek PSUl575 has independently rated rails?
– Layne Bernardo
2 hours ago
@LayneBernardo, first I said its supposed to. Because the 3.3v,5v, and 12v have there own independent boxes. Note the rectangle in the previous picture the 125w is half between the 3.3v and 5v column with no line separating them.
– cybernard
2 hours ago
Where are you seeing that the Diablotek PSUl575 has independently rated rails?
– Layne Bernardo
2 hours ago
Where are you seeing that the Diablotek PSUl575 has independently rated rails?
– Layne Bernardo
2 hours ago
@LayneBernardo, first I said its supposed to. Because the 3.3v,5v, and 12v have there own independent boxes. Note the rectangle in the previous picture the 125w is half between the 3.3v and 5v column with no line separating them.
– cybernard
2 hours ago
@LayneBernardo, first I said its supposed to. Because the 3.3v,5v, and 12v have there own independent boxes. Note the rectangle in the previous picture the 125w is half between the 3.3v and 5v column with no line separating them.
– cybernard
2 hours ago
add a comment |Â
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If your PSU is rated for 450W it will put out 450W. The efficiency rating is how much power it loses in the process of providing 450W. In other words, it may be providing 450W to your computer, but it will be drawing 540W from the wall.
If you use more power than it can provide, your PSU will either detect the overcurrent and shut down, or it will overheat. If it overheats, it will detect that it's overheating and shut down.
It won't gracefully shut down your computer, it will just turn off all of a sudden.
answered 2 hours ago
Layne Bernardo
34615
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Layne Bernardo is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
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up vote
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down vote
If your PSU is rated for 450W it will put out 450W. The efficiency rating is how much power it loses in the process of providing 450W. In other words, it may be providing 450W to your computer, but it will be drawing 540W from the wall.
If you use more power than it can provide, your PSU will either detect the overcurrent and shut down, or it will overheat. If it overheats, it will detect that it's overheating and shut down.
It won't gracefully shut down your computer, it will just turn off all of a sudden.
answered 2 hours ago
Layne Bernardo
34615
New contributor
Layne Bernardo is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.
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up vote
5
down vote
up vote
5
down vote
If your PSU is rated for 450W it will put out 450W. The efficiency rating is how much power it loses in the process of providing 450W. In other words, it may be providing 450W to your computer, but it will be drawing 540W from the wall.
If you use more power than it can provide, your PSU will either detect the overcurrent and shut down, or it will overheat. If it overheats, it will detect that it's overheating and shut down.
It won't gracefully shut down your computer, it will just turn off all of a sudden.
answered 2 hours ago
Layne Bernardo
34615
New contributor
Layne Bernardo is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.
If your PSU is rated for 450W it will put out 450W. The efficiency rating is how much power it loses in the process of providing 450W. In other words, it may be providing 450W to your computer, but it will be drawing 540W from the wall.
If you use more power than it can provide, your PSU will either detect the overcurrent and shut down, or it will overheat. If it overheats, it will detect that it's overheating and shut down.
It won't gracefully shut down your computer, it will just turn off all of a sudden.
answered 2 hours ago
Layne Bernardo
34615
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Layne Bernardo is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
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answered 2 hours ago
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34615
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answered 2 hours ago
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answered 2 hours ago
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You're going to have a really hard time making any money GPU mining nowadays.
– Layne Bernardo
2 hours ago
@LayneBernardo I've noticed. Do you have any recommended alternatives?
– Jacksonkr
2 hours ago
1
I don't, but whattomine.com does :). Your best bet is probably a scrypt ASIC miner.
– Layne Bernardo
2 hours ago