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How can the SCP foundation retain its secrecy in a technologically changing world?
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The SCP is an organization created after World War 2 that deals with threats to our species and the entire planet: mystical or alien artifacts, world-ending events, ancient monsters or gods that predate humanity, and other things best left unsaid. They require the cooperation of world governments and other interested parties that are informed of the necessity of this organization and their sometimes-brutal methods. They retain their secrecy by containing or eliminating threats, and making those who know things they shouldn't, disappear. They are also responsible for discovering how the artifacts work, and they use various groups of people (prisoners, witnesses, etc.) as guinea pigs.
In the past, it was relatively easy to conduct their affairs in secret. However, the world in 2018 is much different than the 1940s. We live in the age of Facebook and Twitter, where a picture posted on the internet can last forever. Cellphone cameras and GPS have made it more difficult to remain anonymous. Loved ones of prisoners and "disappeared" people are making noise and asking questions. People cannot just vanish without a trace anymore. The world is getting smaller everyday, with the advancement of technology and its availability to the public. Ambitious journalists eager for a story have taken to wiretapping and recording conversations with officials. In addition to this, politics is becoming more and more divided. A controversial president has been elected who has thrown his government into chaos with his constant firings, antagonism towards the media, and arguably divisive relationship with his colleagues. Government leaks have become a constant issue, and it is becoming much harder for governments to keep secrets.
This has thrown the SCP into a tailspin and has them worried. The constant issues with politics and tech are surpassing the protections they have in place. Some consideration has been given to using the artifacts they possess to move the needle in their favor. However, many of these are barely understood, and often lead to unintended and disastrous consequences when used.
How can they continue to retain their power and autonomy?
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The SCP is an organization created after World War 2 that deals with threats to our species and the entire planet: mystical or alien artifacts, world-ending events, ancient monsters or gods that predate humanity, and other things best left unsaid. They require the cooperation of world governments and other interested parties that are informed of the necessity of this organization and their sometimes-brutal methods. They retain their secrecy by containing or eliminating threats, and making those who know things they shouldn't, disappear. They are also responsible for discovering how the artifacts work, and they use various groups of people (prisoners, witnesses, etc.) as guinea pigs.
In the past, it was relatively easy to conduct their affairs in secret. However, the world in 2018 is much different than the 1940s. We live in the age of Facebook and Twitter, where a picture posted on the internet can last forever. Cellphone cameras and GPS have made it more difficult to remain anonymous. Loved ones of prisoners and "disappeared" people are making noise and asking questions. People cannot just vanish without a trace anymore. The world is getting smaller everyday, with the advancement of technology and its availability to the public. Ambitious journalists eager for a story have taken to wiretapping and recording conversations with officials. In addition to this, politics is becoming more and more divided. A controversial president has been elected who has thrown his government into chaos with his constant firings, antagonism towards the media, and arguably divisive relationship with his colleagues. Government leaks have become a constant issue, and it is becoming much harder for governments to keep secrets.
This has thrown the SCP into a tailspin and has them worried. The constant issues with politics and tech are surpassing the protections they have in place. Some consideration has been given to using the artifacts they possess to move the needle in their favor. However, many of these are barely understood, and often lead to unintended and disastrous consequences when used.
How can they continue to retain their power and autonomy?
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– Spencer
8 hours ago
The fundamental flaw of all conspiracy theories that rely on secrecy is the a conspiracy requires more then one person, and when more then one person knows something, it is no longer a secret.
– Paul Smith
4 hours ago
It didn't. The plans for SCP-135 are still on Prometheus labs. If you can get your own nuclear material somehow you can build one. Word to the wise: don't try to factor an RSA-2048 root certificate unless you want to find out what happens when you consume an entire 100 pounds of plutonium for energy at once.
– Joshua
4 hours ago
SCP Foundation website scp-wiki.net. Be careful. Addictive. Creepy.
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3 hours ago
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The SCP is an organization created after World War 2 that deals with threats to our species and the entire planet: mystical or alien artifacts, world-ending events, ancient monsters or gods that predate humanity, and other things best left unsaid. They require the cooperation of world governments and other interested parties that are informed of the necessity of this organization and their sometimes-brutal methods. They retain their secrecy by containing or eliminating threats, and making those who know things they shouldn't, disappear. They are also responsible for discovering how the artifacts work, and they use various groups of people (prisoners, witnesses, etc.) as guinea pigs.
In the past, it was relatively easy to conduct their affairs in secret. However, the world in 2018 is much different than the 1940s. We live in the age of Facebook and Twitter, where a picture posted on the internet can last forever. Cellphone cameras and GPS have made it more difficult to remain anonymous. Loved ones of prisoners and "disappeared" people are making noise and asking questions. People cannot just vanish without a trace anymore. The world is getting smaller everyday, with the advancement of technology and its availability to the public. Ambitious journalists eager for a story have taken to wiretapping and recording conversations with officials. In addition to this, politics is becoming more and more divided. A controversial president has been elected who has thrown his government into chaos with his constant firings, antagonism towards the media, and arguably divisive relationship with his colleagues. Government leaks have become a constant issue, and it is becoming much harder for governments to keep secrets.
This has thrown the SCP into a tailspin and has them worried. The constant issues with politics and tech are surpassing the protections they have in place. Some consideration has been given to using the artifacts they possess to move the needle in their favor. However, many of these are barely understood, and often lead to unintended and disastrous consequences when used.
How can they continue to retain their power and autonomy?
secret-society world-government
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The SCP is an organization created after World War 2 that deals with threats to our species and the entire planet: mystical or alien artifacts, world-ending events, ancient monsters or gods that predate humanity, and other things best left unsaid. They require the cooperation of world governments and other interested parties that are informed of the necessity of this organization and their sometimes-brutal methods. They retain their secrecy by containing or eliminating threats, and making those who know things they shouldn't, disappear. They are also responsible for discovering how the artifacts work, and they use various groups of people (prisoners, witnesses, etc.) as guinea pigs.
In the past, it was relatively easy to conduct their affairs in secret. However, the world in 2018 is much different than the 1940s. We live in the age of Facebook and Twitter, where a picture posted on the internet can last forever. Cellphone cameras and GPS have made it more difficult to remain anonymous. Loved ones of prisoners and "disappeared" people are making noise and asking questions. People cannot just vanish without a trace anymore. The world is getting smaller everyday, with the advancement of technology and its availability to the public. Ambitious journalists eager for a story have taken to wiretapping and recording conversations with officials. In addition to this, politics is becoming more and more divided. A controversial president has been elected who has thrown his government into chaos with his constant firings, antagonism towards the media, and arguably divisive relationship with his colleagues. Government leaks have become a constant issue, and it is becoming much harder for governments to keep secrets.
This has thrown the SCP into a tailspin and has them worried. The constant issues with politics and tech are surpassing the protections they have in place. Some consideration has been given to using the artifacts they possess to move the needle in their favor. However, many of these are barely understood, and often lead to unintended and disastrous consequences when used.
How can they continue to retain their power and autonomy?
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secret-society world-government
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GentlePurpleRain
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Incognito
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asked 9 hours ago
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Issue everyone Neuralyzers.
– Spencer
8 hours ago
The fundamental flaw of all conspiracy theories that rely on secrecy is the a conspiracy requires more then one person, and when more then one person knows something, it is no longer a secret.
– Paul Smith
4 hours ago
It didn't. The plans for SCP-135 are still on Prometheus labs. If you can get your own nuclear material somehow you can build one. Word to the wise: don't try to factor an RSA-2048 root certificate unless you want to find out what happens when you consume an entire 100 pounds of plutonium for energy at once.
– Joshua
4 hours ago
SCP Foundation website scp-wiki.net. Be careful. Addictive. Creepy.
– Willk
3 hours ago
add a comment |Â
Issue everyone Neuralyzers.
– Spencer
8 hours ago
The fundamental flaw of all conspiracy theories that rely on secrecy is the a conspiracy requires more then one person, and when more then one person knows something, it is no longer a secret.
– Paul Smith
4 hours ago
It didn't. The plans for SCP-135 are still on Prometheus labs. If you can get your own nuclear material somehow you can build one. Word to the wise: don't try to factor an RSA-2048 root certificate unless you want to find out what happens when you consume an entire 100 pounds of plutonium for energy at once.
– Joshua
4 hours ago
SCP Foundation website scp-wiki.net. Be careful. Addictive. Creepy.
– Willk
3 hours ago
Issue everyone Neuralyzers.
– Spencer
8 hours ago
Issue everyone Neuralyzers.
– Spencer
8 hours ago
The fundamental flaw of all conspiracy theories that rely on secrecy is the a conspiracy requires more then one person, and when more then one person knows something, it is no longer a secret.
– Paul Smith
4 hours ago
The fundamental flaw of all conspiracy theories that rely on secrecy is the a conspiracy requires more then one person, and when more then one person knows something, it is no longer a secret.
– Paul Smith
4 hours ago
It didn't. The plans for SCP-135 are still on Prometheus labs. If you can get your own nuclear material somehow you can build one. Word to the wise: don't try to factor an RSA-2048 root certificate unless you want to find out what happens when you consume an entire 100 pounds of plutonium for energy at once.
– Joshua
4 hours ago
It didn't. The plans for SCP-135 are still on Prometheus labs. If you can get your own nuclear material somehow you can build one. Word to the wise: don't try to factor an RSA-2048 root certificate unless you want to find out what happens when you consume an entire 100 pounds of plutonium for energy at once.
– Joshua
4 hours ago
SCP Foundation website scp-wiki.net. Be careful. Addictive. Creepy.
– Willk
3 hours ago
SCP Foundation website scp-wiki.net. Be careful. Addictive. Creepy.
– Willk
3 hours ago
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There's an SCP for that.
There's so many of these things, even one that is literally a never-ending supply of pizza. I hardly find it difficult to believe there is an SCP out there that can erase credible data from the internet as soon as it is uploaded or can rework public consciousness to thinking all these sightings are merely hoaxes, movie sets, and so forth. People are really only dangerous in groups. One lone person can be easily erased if they are digging where they shouldn't.
answered 9 hours ago
Sora Tamashii
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4006 is an interesting one
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1 hour ago
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Leaving aside the concerns regarding organisations that "retain their secrecy by containing or eliminating threats, and making those who know things they shouldn't disappear," there are several ways they can stay out of sight.
1. Camouflage
They have access to the personnel files of every security agency worldwide, and can easily insert identification for their agents, as and when necessary, then remove it afterwards without leaving a paper trail. The public won't see the SCP kidnapping people, they'll see the KGB or Mossad.
2. Hiding in Plain Sight
The SCP's a famous movie company, releasing such hits as "Men in Black", which is about a secret government agency protecting the world from aliens; "S.H.I.E.L.D.", about a secret WWII government agency dealing with extraordinary threats; "Hellboy",a secret government agency protecting the world from "Mystical or alien artifacts, world ending events, ancient monsters or gods that predate humanity, and anything else best left unsaid"; "Indiana Jones"; "The X-Files" and many more. SCP is killing people to stop them telling the world about the supernatural? The movie company, that SCP? Come on, it's obviously a publicity stunt! I can't believe you actually thought it was real!
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Also: they have infiltrated Facebook and Twitter (and other communications platforms), and use them to eliminate credible evidence, and flood the internet with hoaxes. China censors for "morality" reasons, West censors for political correctness, SCP just needs to add a few filters of their own.
– Bald Bear
8 hours ago
NVM: Saying it's a nonissue is a valid answer. I'm wrong and dumb. Don't mind me!
– Sora Tamashii
51 mins ago
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Actually it's easier than ever. To address some points:
Everyone knows the internet is full of fakes. A few decades ago, a photo was a certain proof that something exists. Today your realistic smartphone footage of bigfoot might be photoshopped by a fifteen year old living in their parents basement. Only idiots believe all those conspiracy theories without proof from a credible source. (And if SCP exists, they certainly run the majority of fact-checking websites).
In the same way, the news-cycle is faster then ever. There is no time for long investigations and even if some journalist actually has a story about incredible objects, that's just fake news and conspiracy theories. If the media persists, just release the next sex-tape, arrange for a mass shooting or just wait for the next public statement by the president and your story will be old news.
Concerning test subjects, simply don't recruit from first world countries anymore. There are more than enough Mexicans vanishing in mass graves in some drug war, refugees drowning in the Mediterranean and accused drug dealers being shot in the Philippines.
Concerning leaks, your surveillance is always improving and the people working for you know that. While a few decades ago, they might have gotten away with sending an envelope to some journalist, today the gps in their phones (leaving home without it will definitely be cause for an investigation) will tell you precisely when they went to the mailbox. And if they are crazy enough to try something anyways, did you know that many parts, including power-steering, in modern cars are controlled by computers nowadays?
Certainly, there might be stupid politicians but the politicians never get told anything important anyway. Some may have stumbled upon the deep state, but they are completely oblivious to its true purpose.
Finally the most important part: Create a website where you catalogue all the things that you are storing. Call it scp-wiki or something. Then whenever someone gets wind of some of your operations, just point them to the appropriate entry and tell them that they have just stumbled upon a hoax inspired by that strange internet horror-site.
answered 9 hours ago
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while i understand that you're probably not being 100% serious with the "scp-wiki site exists in universe", it's worth mentioning that security measures within the scp foundation require that researchers know no more than they need to, and if everything were available on scp-wiki researchers would be able to see pretty much every file they shouldn't actually have access to.
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They can use antimemetics for a start. Basically ideas that make themselves difficult to share.
The most powerful antimemes are forgotten as soon as you learn about them.
They have antimemetic drugs that can be given to an individual to make them forget things.
There was also "The Woodvale Incident"
A tale of how the SCP Foundation managed to keep out of the Cold War when the USA demanded that the Foundation hand over several SCPs, sites, and staff so as to have an edge over the USSR.
Finally, they can also just dispose of people that they aren't able to silence. They are not a hugely ethical organization.
answered 9 hours ago
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The most extreme example would be a lethal text that breaks the person's mind so that they are incapable of describing the text (or anything else, depending on the story.)
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While certainly painting with a broad brush, people vanish without a trace all of the time. Even more so in the "not first world" countries. If the organization has any complicity with the government, at any level, it gets even easier as investigations get neglected or shut down.
Do people make noise? Sure they do, but the question becomes whether anyone is listening. A lone fathers eternal vigil for their child tends to be just that: alone. Shared closely, but never really expanding to greater attention. Not every family puts a billboard on their property calling out crimes.
The bigger problem isn't the individual "disappearances", its any higher level of pattern that perhaps can be intuited over time. But even then, that's "crazy talk". Books like this are written all the time. Folks love reading about a conspiracy! But then there's the problem: it's a conspiracy.
While "the internet" does give people a voice, it also gives EVERYONE a voice. "Signal to noise" ratio on "the internet" isn't really regarded as high quality.
Large organizations are implicitly inefficient and filled with "lossy" communications. There's LOTS of cracks for important details to fall in to and never be seen again. Navigated by an expert team, remaining hidden "in plain sight" can be done.
Finally, as anyone who's done any real digging in to, well, most anything, we find that the eternal memory of the internet is anything but. Link rot is real, Google is not all seeing, web sites come and go all the time. So, even then, digital vigils can eventually fade.
So I simply assert that the problem isn't perhaps as difficult as you may think it is. Watching some episodes of the X-Files as a resource of cover up colliding with bureaucracy is probably a useful exercise.
answered 3 hours ago
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6 Answers
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oldest
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active
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up vote
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There's an SCP for that.
There's so many of these things, even one that is literally a never-ending supply of pizza. I hardly find it difficult to believe there is an SCP out there that can erase credible data from the internet as soon as it is uploaded or can rework public consciousness to thinking all these sightings are merely hoaxes, movie sets, and so forth. People are really only dangerous in groups. One lone person can be easily erased if they are digging where they shouldn't.
answered 9 hours ago
Sora Tamashii
569114
4006 is an interesting one
– Destructible Lemon
1 hour ago
add a comment |Â
up vote
9
down vote
There's an SCP for that.
There's so many of these things, even one that is literally a never-ending supply of pizza. I hardly find it difficult to believe there is an SCP out there that can erase credible data from the internet as soon as it is uploaded or can rework public consciousness to thinking all these sightings are merely hoaxes, movie sets, and so forth. People are really only dangerous in groups. One lone person can be easily erased if they are digging where they shouldn't.
answered 9 hours ago
Sora Tamashii
569114
4006 is an interesting one
– Destructible Lemon
1 hour ago
add a comment |Â
up vote
9
down vote
up vote
9
down vote
There's an SCP for that.
There's so many of these things, even one that is literally a never-ending supply of pizza. I hardly find it difficult to believe there is an SCP out there that can erase credible data from the internet as soon as it is uploaded or can rework public consciousness to thinking all these sightings are merely hoaxes, movie sets, and so forth. People are really only dangerous in groups. One lone person can be easily erased if they are digging where they shouldn't.
answered 9 hours ago
Sora Tamashii
569114
There's an SCP for that.
There's so many of these things, even one that is literally a never-ending supply of pizza. I hardly find it difficult to believe there is an SCP out there that can erase credible data from the internet as soon as it is uploaded or can rework public consciousness to thinking all these sightings are merely hoaxes, movie sets, and so forth. People are really only dangerous in groups. One lone person can be easily erased if they are digging where they shouldn't.
answered 9 hours ago
Sora Tamashii
569114
answered 9 hours ago
Sora Tamashii
569114
answered 9 hours ago
Sora Tamashii
569114
answered 9 hours ago
Sora Tamashii
569114
569114
4006 is an interesting one
– Destructible Lemon
1 hour ago
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4006 is an interesting one
– Destructible Lemon
1 hour ago
4006 is an interesting one
– Destructible Lemon
1 hour ago
4006 is an interesting one
– Destructible Lemon
1 hour ago
add a comment |Â
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Leaving aside the concerns regarding organisations that "retain their secrecy by containing or eliminating threats, and making those who know things they shouldn't disappear," there are several ways they can stay out of sight.
1. Camouflage
They have access to the personnel files of every security agency worldwide, and can easily insert identification for their agents, as and when necessary, then remove it afterwards without leaving a paper trail. The public won't see the SCP kidnapping people, they'll see the KGB or Mossad.
2. Hiding in Plain Sight
The SCP's a famous movie company, releasing such hits as "Men in Black", which is about a secret government agency protecting the world from aliens; "S.H.I.E.L.D.", about a secret WWII government agency dealing with extraordinary threats; "Hellboy",a secret government agency protecting the world from "Mystical or alien artifacts, world ending events, ancient monsters or gods that predate humanity, and anything else best left unsaid"; "Indiana Jones"; "The X-Files" and many more. SCP is killing people to stop them telling the world about the supernatural? The movie company, that SCP? Come on, it's obviously a publicity stunt! I can't believe you actually thought it was real!
edited 22 mins ago
Laurel
1,512615
answered 8 hours ago
nzaman
8,16611341
Also: they have infiltrated Facebook and Twitter (and other communications platforms), and use them to eliminate credible evidence, and flood the internet with hoaxes. China censors for "morality" reasons, West censors for political correctness, SCP just needs to add a few filters of their own.
– Bald Bear
8 hours ago
NVM: Saying it's a nonissue is a valid answer. I'm wrong and dumb. Don't mind me!
– Sora Tamashii
51 mins ago
add a comment |Â
up vote
7
down vote
Leaving aside the concerns regarding organisations that "retain their secrecy by containing or eliminating threats, and making those who know things they shouldn't disappear," there are several ways they can stay out of sight.
1. Camouflage
They have access to the personnel files of every security agency worldwide, and can easily insert identification for their agents, as and when necessary, then remove it afterwards without leaving a paper trail. The public won't see the SCP kidnapping people, they'll see the KGB or Mossad.
2. Hiding in Plain Sight
The SCP's a famous movie company, releasing such hits as "Men in Black", which is about a secret government agency protecting the world from aliens; "S.H.I.E.L.D.", about a secret WWII government agency dealing with extraordinary threats; "Hellboy",a secret government agency protecting the world from "Mystical or alien artifacts, world ending events, ancient monsters or gods that predate humanity, and anything else best left unsaid"; "Indiana Jones"; "The X-Files" and many more. SCP is killing people to stop them telling the world about the supernatural? The movie company, that SCP? Come on, it's obviously a publicity stunt! I can't believe you actually thought it was real!
edited 22 mins ago
Laurel
1,512615
answered 8 hours ago
nzaman
8,16611341
Also: they have infiltrated Facebook and Twitter (and other communications platforms), and use them to eliminate credible evidence, and flood the internet with hoaxes. China censors for "morality" reasons, West censors for political correctness, SCP just needs to add a few filters of their own.
– Bald Bear
8 hours ago
NVM: Saying it's a nonissue is a valid answer. I'm wrong and dumb. Don't mind me!
– Sora Tamashii
51 mins ago
add a comment |Â
up vote
7
down vote
up vote
7
down vote
Leaving aside the concerns regarding organisations that "retain their secrecy by containing or eliminating threats, and making those who know things they shouldn't disappear," there are several ways they can stay out of sight.
1. Camouflage
They have access to the personnel files of every security agency worldwide, and can easily insert identification for their agents, as and when necessary, then remove it afterwards without leaving a paper trail. The public won't see the SCP kidnapping people, they'll see the KGB or Mossad.
2. Hiding in Plain Sight
The SCP's a famous movie company, releasing such hits as "Men in Black", which is about a secret government agency protecting the world from aliens; "S.H.I.E.L.D.", about a secret WWII government agency dealing with extraordinary threats; "Hellboy",a secret government agency protecting the world from "Mystical or alien artifacts, world ending events, ancient monsters or gods that predate humanity, and anything else best left unsaid"; "Indiana Jones"; "The X-Files" and many more. SCP is killing people to stop them telling the world about the supernatural? The movie company, that SCP? Come on, it's obviously a publicity stunt! I can't believe you actually thought it was real!
edited 22 mins ago
Laurel
1,512615
answered 8 hours ago
nzaman
8,16611341
Leaving aside the concerns regarding organisations that "retain their secrecy by containing or eliminating threats, and making those who know things they shouldn't disappear," there are several ways they can stay out of sight.
1. Camouflage
They have access to the personnel files of every security agency worldwide, and can easily insert identification for their agents, as and when necessary, then remove it afterwards without leaving a paper trail. The public won't see the SCP kidnapping people, they'll see the KGB or Mossad.
2. Hiding in Plain Sight
The SCP's a famous movie company, releasing such hits as "Men in Black", which is about a secret government agency protecting the world from aliens; "S.H.I.E.L.D.", about a secret WWII government agency dealing with extraordinary threats; "Hellboy",a secret government agency protecting the world from "Mystical or alien artifacts, world ending events, ancient monsters or gods that predate humanity, and anything else best left unsaid"; "Indiana Jones"; "The X-Files" and many more. SCP is killing people to stop them telling the world about the supernatural? The movie company, that SCP? Come on, it's obviously a publicity stunt! I can't believe you actually thought it was real!
edited 22 mins ago
Laurel
1,512615
answered 8 hours ago
nzaman
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edited 22 mins ago
Laurel
1,512615
edited 22 mins ago
Laurel
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edited 22 mins ago
Laurel
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answered 8 hours ago
nzaman
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answered 8 hours ago
nzaman
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answered 8 hours ago
nzaman
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8,16611341
Also: they have infiltrated Facebook and Twitter (and other communications platforms), and use them to eliminate credible evidence, and flood the internet with hoaxes. China censors for "morality" reasons, West censors for political correctness, SCP just needs to add a few filters of their own.
– Bald Bear
8 hours ago
NVM: Saying it's a nonissue is a valid answer. I'm wrong and dumb. Don't mind me!
– Sora Tamashii
51 mins ago
add a comment |Â
Also: they have infiltrated Facebook and Twitter (and other communications platforms), and use them to eliminate credible evidence, and flood the internet with hoaxes. China censors for "morality" reasons, West censors for political correctness, SCP just needs to add a few filters of their own.
– Bald Bear
8 hours ago
NVM: Saying it's a nonissue is a valid answer. I'm wrong and dumb. Don't mind me!
– Sora Tamashii
51 mins ago
Also: they have infiltrated Facebook and Twitter (and other communications platforms), and use them to eliminate credible evidence, and flood the internet with hoaxes. China censors for "morality" reasons, West censors for political correctness, SCP just needs to add a few filters of their own.
– Bald Bear
8 hours ago
Also: they have infiltrated Facebook and Twitter (and other communications platforms), and use them to eliminate credible evidence, and flood the internet with hoaxes. China censors for "morality" reasons, West censors for political correctness, SCP just needs to add a few filters of their own.
– Bald Bear
8 hours ago
NVM: Saying it's a nonissue is a valid answer. I'm wrong and dumb. Don't mind me!
– Sora Tamashii
51 mins ago
NVM: Saying it's a nonissue is a valid answer. I'm wrong and dumb. Don't mind me!
– Sora Tamashii
51 mins ago
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up vote
5
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Actually it's easier than ever. To address some points:
Everyone knows the internet is full of fakes. A few decades ago, a photo was a certain proof that something exists. Today your realistic smartphone footage of bigfoot might be photoshopped by a fifteen year old living in their parents basement. Only idiots believe all those conspiracy theories without proof from a credible source. (And if SCP exists, they certainly run the majority of fact-checking websites).
In the same way, the news-cycle is faster then ever. There is no time for long investigations and even if some journalist actually has a story about incredible objects, that's just fake news and conspiracy theories. If the media persists, just release the next sex-tape, arrange for a mass shooting or just wait for the next public statement by the president and your story will be old news.
Concerning test subjects, simply don't recruit from first world countries anymore. There are more than enough Mexicans vanishing in mass graves in some drug war, refugees drowning in the Mediterranean and accused drug dealers being shot in the Philippines.
Concerning leaks, your surveillance is always improving and the people working for you know that. While a few decades ago, they might have gotten away with sending an envelope to some journalist, today the gps in their phones (leaving home without it will definitely be cause for an investigation) will tell you precisely when they went to the mailbox. And if they are crazy enough to try something anyways, did you know that many parts, including power-steering, in modern cars are controlled by computers nowadays?
Certainly, there might be stupid politicians but the politicians never get told anything important anyway. Some may have stumbled upon the deep state, but they are completely oblivious to its true purpose.
Finally the most important part: Create a website where you catalogue all the things that you are storing. Call it scp-wiki or something. Then whenever someone gets wind of some of your operations, just point them to the appropriate entry and tell them that they have just stumbled upon a hoax inspired by that strange internet horror-site.
answered 9 hours ago
mlk
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while i understand that you're probably not being 100% serious with the "scp-wiki site exists in universe", it's worth mentioning that security measures within the scp foundation require that researchers know no more than they need to, and if everything were available on scp-wiki researchers would be able to see pretty much every file they shouldn't actually have access to.
– Destructible Lemon
1 hour ago
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Actually it's easier than ever. To address some points:
Everyone knows the internet is full of fakes. A few decades ago, a photo was a certain proof that something exists. Today your realistic smartphone footage of bigfoot might be photoshopped by a fifteen year old living in their parents basement. Only idiots believe all those conspiracy theories without proof from a credible source. (And if SCP exists, they certainly run the majority of fact-checking websites).
In the same way, the news-cycle is faster then ever. There is no time for long investigations and even if some journalist actually has a story about incredible objects, that's just fake news and conspiracy theories. If the media persists, just release the next sex-tape, arrange for a mass shooting or just wait for the next public statement by the president and your story will be old news.
Concerning test subjects, simply don't recruit from first world countries anymore. There are more than enough Mexicans vanishing in mass graves in some drug war, refugees drowning in the Mediterranean and accused drug dealers being shot in the Philippines.
Concerning leaks, your surveillance is always improving and the people working for you know that. While a few decades ago, they might have gotten away with sending an envelope to some journalist, today the gps in their phones (leaving home without it will definitely be cause for an investigation) will tell you precisely when they went to the mailbox. And if they are crazy enough to try something anyways, did you know that many parts, including power-steering, in modern cars are controlled by computers nowadays?
Certainly, there might be stupid politicians but the politicians never get told anything important anyway. Some may have stumbled upon the deep state, but they are completely oblivious to its true purpose.
Finally the most important part: Create a website where you catalogue all the things that you are storing. Call it scp-wiki or something. Then whenever someone gets wind of some of your operations, just point them to the appropriate entry and tell them that they have just stumbled upon a hoax inspired by that strange internet horror-site.
answered 9 hours ago
mlk
62928
while i understand that you're probably not being 100% serious with the "scp-wiki site exists in universe", it's worth mentioning that security measures within the scp foundation require that researchers know no more than they need to, and if everything were available on scp-wiki researchers would be able to see pretty much every file they shouldn't actually have access to.
– Destructible Lemon
1 hour ago
add a comment |Â
up vote
5
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up vote
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Actually it's easier than ever. To address some points:
Everyone knows the internet is full of fakes. A few decades ago, a photo was a certain proof that something exists. Today your realistic smartphone footage of bigfoot might be photoshopped by a fifteen year old living in their parents basement. Only idiots believe all those conspiracy theories without proof from a credible source. (And if SCP exists, they certainly run the majority of fact-checking websites).
In the same way, the news-cycle is faster then ever. There is no time for long investigations and even if some journalist actually has a story about incredible objects, that's just fake news and conspiracy theories. If the media persists, just release the next sex-tape, arrange for a mass shooting or just wait for the next public statement by the president and your story will be old news.
Concerning test subjects, simply don't recruit from first world countries anymore. There are more than enough Mexicans vanishing in mass graves in some drug war, refugees drowning in the Mediterranean and accused drug dealers being shot in the Philippines.
Concerning leaks, your surveillance is always improving and the people working for you know that. While a few decades ago, they might have gotten away with sending an envelope to some journalist, today the gps in their phones (leaving home without it will definitely be cause for an investigation) will tell you precisely when they went to the mailbox. And if they are crazy enough to try something anyways, did you know that many parts, including power-steering, in modern cars are controlled by computers nowadays?
Certainly, there might be stupid politicians but the politicians never get told anything important anyway. Some may have stumbled upon the deep state, but they are completely oblivious to its true purpose.
Finally the most important part: Create a website where you catalogue all the things that you are storing. Call it scp-wiki or something. Then whenever someone gets wind of some of your operations, just point them to the appropriate entry and tell them that they have just stumbled upon a hoax inspired by that strange internet horror-site.
answered 9 hours ago
mlk
62928
Actually it's easier than ever. To address some points:
Everyone knows the internet is full of fakes. A few decades ago, a photo was a certain proof that something exists. Today your realistic smartphone footage of bigfoot might be photoshopped by a fifteen year old living in their parents basement. Only idiots believe all those conspiracy theories without proof from a credible source. (And if SCP exists, they certainly run the majority of fact-checking websites).
In the same way, the news-cycle is faster then ever. There is no time for long investigations and even if some journalist actually has a story about incredible objects, that's just fake news and conspiracy theories. If the media persists, just release the next sex-tape, arrange for a mass shooting or just wait for the next public statement by the president and your story will be old news.
Concerning test subjects, simply don't recruit from first world countries anymore. There are more than enough Mexicans vanishing in mass graves in some drug war, refugees drowning in the Mediterranean and accused drug dealers being shot in the Philippines.
Concerning leaks, your surveillance is always improving and the people working for you know that. While a few decades ago, they might have gotten away with sending an envelope to some journalist, today the gps in their phones (leaving home without it will definitely be cause for an investigation) will tell you precisely when they went to the mailbox. And if they are crazy enough to try something anyways, did you know that many parts, including power-steering, in modern cars are controlled by computers nowadays?
Certainly, there might be stupid politicians but the politicians never get told anything important anyway. Some may have stumbled upon the deep state, but they are completely oblivious to its true purpose.
Finally the most important part: Create a website where you catalogue all the things that you are storing. Call it scp-wiki or something. Then whenever someone gets wind of some of your operations, just point them to the appropriate entry and tell them that they have just stumbled upon a hoax inspired by that strange internet horror-site.
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mlk
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while i understand that you're probably not being 100% serious with the "scp-wiki site exists in universe", it's worth mentioning that security measures within the scp foundation require that researchers know no more than they need to, and if everything were available on scp-wiki researchers would be able to see pretty much every file they shouldn't actually have access to.
– Destructible Lemon
1 hour ago
add a comment |Â
while i understand that you're probably not being 100% serious with the "scp-wiki site exists in universe", it's worth mentioning that security measures within the scp foundation require that researchers know no more than they need to, and if everything were available on scp-wiki researchers would be able to see pretty much every file they shouldn't actually have access to.
– Destructible Lemon
1 hour ago
while i understand that you're probably not being 100% serious with the "scp-wiki site exists in universe", it's worth mentioning that security measures within the scp foundation require that researchers know no more than they need to, and if everything were available on scp-wiki researchers would be able to see pretty much every file they shouldn't actually have access to.
– Destructible Lemon
1 hour ago
while i understand that you're probably not being 100% serious with the "scp-wiki site exists in universe", it's worth mentioning that security measures within the scp foundation require that researchers know no more than they need to, and if everything were available on scp-wiki researchers would be able to see pretty much every file they shouldn't actually have access to.
– Destructible Lemon
1 hour ago
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They can use antimemetics for a start. Basically ideas that make themselves difficult to share.
The most powerful antimemes are forgotten as soon as you learn about them.
They have antimemetic drugs that can be given to an individual to make them forget things.
There was also "The Woodvale Incident"
A tale of how the SCP Foundation managed to keep out of the Cold War when the USA demanded that the Foundation hand over several SCPs, sites, and staff so as to have an edge over the USSR.
Finally, they can also just dispose of people that they aren't able to silence. They are not a hugely ethical organization.
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The most extreme example would be a lethal text that breaks the person's mind so that they are incapable of describing the text (or anything else, depending on the story.)
– Green
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They can use antimemetics for a start. Basically ideas that make themselves difficult to share.
The most powerful antimemes are forgotten as soon as you learn about them.
They have antimemetic drugs that can be given to an individual to make them forget things.
There was also "The Woodvale Incident"
A tale of how the SCP Foundation managed to keep out of the Cold War when the USA demanded that the Foundation hand over several SCPs, sites, and staff so as to have an edge over the USSR.
Finally, they can also just dispose of people that they aren't able to silence. They are not a hugely ethical organization.
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AndyD273
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The most extreme example would be a lethal text that breaks the person's mind so that they are incapable of describing the text (or anything else, depending on the story.)
– Green
9 hours ago
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They can use antimemetics for a start. Basically ideas that make themselves difficult to share.
The most powerful antimemes are forgotten as soon as you learn about them.
They have antimemetic drugs that can be given to an individual to make them forget things.
There was also "The Woodvale Incident"
A tale of how the SCP Foundation managed to keep out of the Cold War when the USA demanded that the Foundation hand over several SCPs, sites, and staff so as to have an edge over the USSR.
Finally, they can also just dispose of people that they aren't able to silence. They are not a hugely ethical organization.
answered 9 hours ago
AndyD273
29.8k253130
They can use antimemetics for a start. Basically ideas that make themselves difficult to share.
The most powerful antimemes are forgotten as soon as you learn about them.
They have antimemetic drugs that can be given to an individual to make them forget things.
There was also "The Woodvale Incident"
A tale of how the SCP Foundation managed to keep out of the Cold War when the USA demanded that the Foundation hand over several SCPs, sites, and staff so as to have an edge over the USSR.
Finally, they can also just dispose of people that they aren't able to silence. They are not a hugely ethical organization.
answered 9 hours ago
AndyD273
29.8k253130
answered 9 hours ago
AndyD273
29.8k253130
answered 9 hours ago
AndyD273
29.8k253130
answered 9 hours ago
AndyD273
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29.8k253130
The most extreme example would be a lethal text that breaks the person's mind so that they are incapable of describing the text (or anything else, depending on the story.)
– Green
9 hours ago
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The most extreme example would be a lethal text that breaks the person's mind so that they are incapable of describing the text (or anything else, depending on the story.)
– Green
9 hours ago
The most extreme example would be a lethal text that breaks the person's mind so that they are incapable of describing the text (or anything else, depending on the story.)
– Green
9 hours ago
The most extreme example would be a lethal text that breaks the person's mind so that they are incapable of describing the text (or anything else, depending on the story.)
– Green
9 hours ago
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While certainly painting with a broad brush, people vanish without a trace all of the time. Even more so in the "not first world" countries. If the organization has any complicity with the government, at any level, it gets even easier as investigations get neglected or shut down.
Do people make noise? Sure they do, but the question becomes whether anyone is listening. A lone fathers eternal vigil for their child tends to be just that: alone. Shared closely, but never really expanding to greater attention. Not every family puts a billboard on their property calling out crimes.
The bigger problem isn't the individual "disappearances", its any higher level of pattern that perhaps can be intuited over time. But even then, that's "crazy talk". Books like this are written all the time. Folks love reading about a conspiracy! But then there's the problem: it's a conspiracy.
While "the internet" does give people a voice, it also gives EVERYONE a voice. "Signal to noise" ratio on "the internet" isn't really regarded as high quality.
Large organizations are implicitly inefficient and filled with "lossy" communications. There's LOTS of cracks for important details to fall in to and never be seen again. Navigated by an expert team, remaining hidden "in plain sight" can be done.
Finally, as anyone who's done any real digging in to, well, most anything, we find that the eternal memory of the internet is anything but. Link rot is real, Google is not all seeing, web sites come and go all the time. So, even then, digital vigils can eventually fade.
So I simply assert that the problem isn't perhaps as difficult as you may think it is. Watching some episodes of the X-Files as a resource of cover up colliding with bureaucracy is probably a useful exercise.
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While certainly painting with a broad brush, people vanish without a trace all of the time. Even more so in the "not first world" countries. If the organization has any complicity with the government, at any level, it gets even easier as investigations get neglected or shut down.
Do people make noise? Sure they do, but the question becomes whether anyone is listening. A lone fathers eternal vigil for their child tends to be just that: alone. Shared closely, but never really expanding to greater attention. Not every family puts a billboard on their property calling out crimes.
The bigger problem isn't the individual "disappearances", its any higher level of pattern that perhaps can be intuited over time. But even then, that's "crazy talk". Books like this are written all the time. Folks love reading about a conspiracy! But then there's the problem: it's a conspiracy.
While "the internet" does give people a voice, it also gives EVERYONE a voice. "Signal to noise" ratio on "the internet" isn't really regarded as high quality.
Large organizations are implicitly inefficient and filled with "lossy" communications. There's LOTS of cracks for important details to fall in to and never be seen again. Navigated by an expert team, remaining hidden "in plain sight" can be done.
Finally, as anyone who's done any real digging in to, well, most anything, we find that the eternal memory of the internet is anything but. Link rot is real, Google is not all seeing, web sites come and go all the time. So, even then, digital vigils can eventually fade.
So I simply assert that the problem isn't perhaps as difficult as you may think it is. Watching some episodes of the X-Files as a resource of cover up colliding with bureaucracy is probably a useful exercise.
answered 3 hours ago
Will Hartung
31113
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up vote
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up vote
1
down vote
While certainly painting with a broad brush, people vanish without a trace all of the time. Even more so in the "not first world" countries. If the organization has any complicity with the government, at any level, it gets even easier as investigations get neglected or shut down.
Do people make noise? Sure they do, but the question becomes whether anyone is listening. A lone fathers eternal vigil for their child tends to be just that: alone. Shared closely, but never really expanding to greater attention. Not every family puts a billboard on their property calling out crimes.
The bigger problem isn't the individual "disappearances", its any higher level of pattern that perhaps can be intuited over time. But even then, that's "crazy talk". Books like this are written all the time. Folks love reading about a conspiracy! But then there's the problem: it's a conspiracy.
While "the internet" does give people a voice, it also gives EVERYONE a voice. "Signal to noise" ratio on "the internet" isn't really regarded as high quality.
Large organizations are implicitly inefficient and filled with "lossy" communications. There's LOTS of cracks for important details to fall in to and never be seen again. Navigated by an expert team, remaining hidden "in plain sight" can be done.
Finally, as anyone who's done any real digging in to, well, most anything, we find that the eternal memory of the internet is anything but. Link rot is real, Google is not all seeing, web sites come and go all the time. So, even then, digital vigils can eventually fade.
So I simply assert that the problem isn't perhaps as difficult as you may think it is. Watching some episodes of the X-Files as a resource of cover up colliding with bureaucracy is probably a useful exercise.
answered 3 hours ago
Will Hartung
31113
While certainly painting with a broad brush, people vanish without a trace all of the time. Even more so in the "not first world" countries. If the organization has any complicity with the government, at any level, it gets even easier as investigations get neglected or shut down.
Do people make noise? Sure they do, but the question becomes whether anyone is listening. A lone fathers eternal vigil for their child tends to be just that: alone. Shared closely, but never really expanding to greater attention. Not every family puts a billboard on their property calling out crimes.
The bigger problem isn't the individual "disappearances", its any higher level of pattern that perhaps can be intuited over time. But even then, that's "crazy talk". Books like this are written all the time. Folks love reading about a conspiracy! But then there's the problem: it's a conspiracy.
While "the internet" does give people a voice, it also gives EVERYONE a voice. "Signal to noise" ratio on "the internet" isn't really regarded as high quality.
Large organizations are implicitly inefficient and filled with "lossy" communications. There's LOTS of cracks for important details to fall in to and never be seen again. Navigated by an expert team, remaining hidden "in plain sight" can be done.
Finally, as anyone who's done any real digging in to, well, most anything, we find that the eternal memory of the internet is anything but. Link rot is real, Google is not all seeing, web sites come and go all the time. So, even then, digital vigils can eventually fade.
So I simply assert that the problem isn't perhaps as difficult as you may think it is. Watching some episodes of the X-Files as a resource of cover up colliding with bureaucracy is probably a useful exercise.
answered 3 hours ago
Will Hartung
31113
answered 3 hours ago
Will Hartung
31113
answered 3 hours ago
Will Hartung
31113
answered 3 hours ago
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Issue everyone Neuralyzers.
– Spencer
8 hours ago
The fundamental flaw of all conspiracy theories that rely on secrecy is the a conspiracy requires more then one person, and when more then one person knows something, it is no longer a secret.
– Paul Smith
4 hours ago
It didn't. The plans for SCP-135 are still on Prometheus labs. If you can get your own nuclear material somehow you can build one. Word to the wise: don't try to factor an RSA-2048 root certificate unless you want to find out what happens when you consume an entire 100 pounds of plutonium for energy at once.
– Joshua
4 hours ago
SCP Foundation website scp-wiki.net. Be careful. Addictive. Creepy.
– Willk
3 hours ago