Sprint ceremonies getting faster - should we revert?

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When we started our agile project we were doing everything by the book. Over time, this has somewhat slipped into a more relaxed style. We still get the information we need, share what needs sharing and communicate effectively. I am now wondering if we should pull on their reigns a little and get more formal again.



Is the time spent as a team getting to know each other and more comfortable in the meetings conducive to ineffective group work and something to be controlled or (assuming the stories are progressing well) is it ok to let formality slide a little?










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  • What do hope to gain from becoming more formal?
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  • I'm asking if we should by virtue of the practice/process not what we might gain. As you ask, I hope to gain a better process and thus better output. I want to balance that against the gain we have achieved by not strictly sticking to the formal process. I assume that, at some point, the balance will become negative and am asking if anyone can point to a good indicator of where that might lie?
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When we started our agile project we were doing everything by the book. Over time, this has somewhat slipped into a more relaxed style. We still get the information we need, share what needs sharing and communicate effectively. I am now wondering if we should pull on their reigns a little and get more formal again.



Is the time spent as a team getting to know each other and more comfortable in the meetings conducive to ineffective group work and something to be controlled or (assuming the stories are progressing well) is it ok to let formality slide a little?










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  • What do hope to gain from becoming more formal?
    – Erik
    3 hours ago










  • I'm asking if we should by virtue of the practice/process not what we might gain. As you ask, I hope to gain a better process and thus better output. I want to balance that against the gain we have achieved by not strictly sticking to the formal process. I assume that, at some point, the balance will become negative and am asking if anyone can point to a good indicator of where that might lie?
    – Matt W
    2 hours ago












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When we started our agile project we were doing everything by the book. Over time, this has somewhat slipped into a more relaxed style. We still get the information we need, share what needs sharing and communicate effectively. I am now wondering if we should pull on their reigns a little and get more formal again.



Is the time spent as a team getting to know each other and more comfortable in the meetings conducive to ineffective group work and something to be controlled or (assuming the stories are progressing well) is it ok to let formality slide a little?










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When we started our agile project we were doing everything by the book. Over time, this has somewhat slipped into a more relaxed style. We still get the information we need, share what needs sharing and communicate effectively. I am now wondering if we should pull on their reigns a little and get more formal again.



Is the time spent as a team getting to know each other and more comfortable in the meetings conducive to ineffective group work and something to be controlled or (assuming the stories are progressing well) is it ok to let formality slide a little?







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  • What do hope to gain from becoming more formal?
    – Erik
    3 hours ago










  • I'm asking if we should by virtue of the practice/process not what we might gain. As you ask, I hope to gain a better process and thus better output. I want to balance that against the gain we have achieved by not strictly sticking to the formal process. I assume that, at some point, the balance will become negative and am asking if anyone can point to a good indicator of where that might lie?
    – Matt W
    2 hours ago
















  • What do hope to gain from becoming more formal?
    – Erik
    3 hours ago










  • I'm asking if we should by virtue of the practice/process not what we might gain. As you ask, I hope to gain a better process and thus better output. I want to balance that against the gain we have achieved by not strictly sticking to the formal process. I assume that, at some point, the balance will become negative and am asking if anyone can point to a good indicator of where that might lie?
    – Matt W
    2 hours ago















What do hope to gain from becoming more formal?
– Erik
3 hours ago




What do hope to gain from becoming more formal?
– Erik
3 hours ago












I'm asking if we should by virtue of the practice/process not what we might gain. As you ask, I hope to gain a better process and thus better output. I want to balance that against the gain we have achieved by not strictly sticking to the formal process. I assume that, at some point, the balance will become negative and am asking if anyone can point to a good indicator of where that might lie?
– Matt W
2 hours ago




I'm asking if we should by virtue of the practice/process not what we might gain. As you ask, I hope to gain a better process and thus better output. I want to balance that against the gain we have achieved by not strictly sticking to the formal process. I assume that, at some point, the balance will become negative and am asking if anyone can point to a good indicator of where that might lie?
– Matt W
2 hours ago










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This question is a bit difficult to ask without knowing your team's dynamics. That said, it's always good to understand and verbalize the goals of each event and to make sure those goals are met throughout the ceremony, even if things are running smoothly. Timeboxes are only there to ensure you don't go over the allotted time. In the event you hit the goal of a ceremony early, all the better.



I work in an environment with a mature team that is really gelling at the moment and I always remind myself: Individuals and interactions over processes and tools. Process takes a backseat to human connection and collaboration. Once the team's effective communication is in good shape, we can focus on the processes that give our team the framework they need to excel. The Scrum framework thrives when the values are embraced. Once those values are embraces, the process and tools become that much more effective.






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  • I agree about the dynamics. I also ask the question because I can hear previous scrum masters in the back of my head saying "you're missing this out" or "you should be doing this". Thing is, we're getting the same result as when we were doing those things. So, at least for now, I have to land on the side of people rather than process. It's working.
    – Matt W
    1 hour ago






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    While I'm sure other Scrum Masters have valuable input, we all know no two teams are the same. The impostor syndrome is alive and well in the SM community, and the canned advice is abundant. It's good to see a fellow SM be honest with their introspection. Questions are valuable. Thanks for asking and good luck with your team!
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This question is a bit difficult to ask without knowing your team's dynamics. That said, it's always good to understand and verbalize the goals of each event and to make sure those goals are met throughout the ceremony, even if things are running smoothly. Timeboxes are only there to ensure you don't go over the allotted time. In the event you hit the goal of a ceremony early, all the better.



I work in an environment with a mature team that is really gelling at the moment and I always remind myself: Individuals and interactions over processes and tools. Process takes a backseat to human connection and collaboration. Once the team's effective communication is in good shape, we can focus on the processes that give our team the framework they need to excel. The Scrum framework thrives when the values are embraced. Once those values are embraces, the process and tools become that much more effective.






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  • I agree about the dynamics. I also ask the question because I can hear previous scrum masters in the back of my head saying "you're missing this out" or "you should be doing this". Thing is, we're getting the same result as when we were doing those things. So, at least for now, I have to land on the side of people rather than process. It's working.
    – Matt W
    1 hour ago






  • 1




    While I'm sure other Scrum Masters have valuable input, we all know no two teams are the same. The impostor syndrome is alive and well in the SM community, and the canned advice is abundant. It's good to see a fellow SM be honest with their introspection. Questions are valuable. Thanks for asking and good luck with your team!
    – dom_michalec
    1 hour ago














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This question is a bit difficult to ask without knowing your team's dynamics. That said, it's always good to understand and verbalize the goals of each event and to make sure those goals are met throughout the ceremony, even if things are running smoothly. Timeboxes are only there to ensure you don't go over the allotted time. In the event you hit the goal of a ceremony early, all the better.



I work in an environment with a mature team that is really gelling at the moment and I always remind myself: Individuals and interactions over processes and tools. Process takes a backseat to human connection and collaboration. Once the team's effective communication is in good shape, we can focus on the processes that give our team the framework they need to excel. The Scrum framework thrives when the values are embraced. Once those values are embraces, the process and tools become that much more effective.






share|improve this answer






















  • I agree about the dynamics. I also ask the question because I can hear previous scrum masters in the back of my head saying "you're missing this out" or "you should be doing this". Thing is, we're getting the same result as when we were doing those things. So, at least for now, I have to land on the side of people rather than process. It's working.
    – Matt W
    1 hour ago






  • 1




    While I'm sure other Scrum Masters have valuable input, we all know no two teams are the same. The impostor syndrome is alive and well in the SM community, and the canned advice is abundant. It's good to see a fellow SM be honest with their introspection. Questions are valuable. Thanks for asking and good luck with your team!
    – dom_michalec
    1 hour ago












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This question is a bit difficult to ask without knowing your team's dynamics. That said, it's always good to understand and verbalize the goals of each event and to make sure those goals are met throughout the ceremony, even if things are running smoothly. Timeboxes are only there to ensure you don't go over the allotted time. In the event you hit the goal of a ceremony early, all the better.



I work in an environment with a mature team that is really gelling at the moment and I always remind myself: Individuals and interactions over processes and tools. Process takes a backseat to human connection and collaboration. Once the team's effective communication is in good shape, we can focus on the processes that give our team the framework they need to excel. The Scrum framework thrives when the values are embraced. Once those values are embraces, the process and tools become that much more effective.






share|improve this answer














This question is a bit difficult to ask without knowing your team's dynamics. That said, it's always good to understand and verbalize the goals of each event and to make sure those goals are met throughout the ceremony, even if things are running smoothly. Timeboxes are only there to ensure you don't go over the allotted time. In the event you hit the goal of a ceremony early, all the better.



I work in an environment with a mature team that is really gelling at the moment and I always remind myself: Individuals and interactions over processes and tools. Process takes a backseat to human connection and collaboration. Once the team's effective communication is in good shape, we can focus on the processes that give our team the framework they need to excel. The Scrum framework thrives when the values are embraced. Once those values are embraces, the process and tools become that much more effective.







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  • I agree about the dynamics. I also ask the question because I can hear previous scrum masters in the back of my head saying "you're missing this out" or "you should be doing this". Thing is, we're getting the same result as when we were doing those things. So, at least for now, I have to land on the side of people rather than process. It's working.
    – Matt W
    1 hour ago






  • 1




    While I'm sure other Scrum Masters have valuable input, we all know no two teams are the same. The impostor syndrome is alive and well in the SM community, and the canned advice is abundant. It's good to see a fellow SM be honest with their introspection. Questions are valuable. Thanks for asking and good luck with your team!
    – dom_michalec
    1 hour ago
















  • I agree about the dynamics. I also ask the question because I can hear previous scrum masters in the back of my head saying "you're missing this out" or "you should be doing this". Thing is, we're getting the same result as when we were doing those things. So, at least for now, I have to land on the side of people rather than process. It's working.
    – Matt W
    1 hour ago






  • 1




    While I'm sure other Scrum Masters have valuable input, we all know no two teams are the same. The impostor syndrome is alive and well in the SM community, and the canned advice is abundant. It's good to see a fellow SM be honest with their introspection. Questions are valuable. Thanks for asking and good luck with your team!
    – dom_michalec
    1 hour ago















I agree about the dynamics. I also ask the question because I can hear previous scrum masters in the back of my head saying "you're missing this out" or "you should be doing this". Thing is, we're getting the same result as when we were doing those things. So, at least for now, I have to land on the side of people rather than process. It's working.
– Matt W
1 hour ago




I agree about the dynamics. I also ask the question because I can hear previous scrum masters in the back of my head saying "you're missing this out" or "you should be doing this". Thing is, we're getting the same result as when we were doing those things. So, at least for now, I have to land on the side of people rather than process. It's working.
– Matt W
1 hour ago




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1




While I'm sure other Scrum Masters have valuable input, we all know no two teams are the same. The impostor syndrome is alive and well in the SM community, and the canned advice is abundant. It's good to see a fellow SM be honest with their introspection. Questions are valuable. Thanks for asking and good luck with your team!
– dom_michalec
1 hour ago




While I'm sure other Scrum Masters have valuable input, we all know no two teams are the same. The impostor syndrome is alive and well in the SM community, and the canned advice is abundant. It's good to see a fellow SM be honest with their introspection. Questions are valuable. Thanks for asking and good luck with your team!
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