Can Thor not sense other superpowered beings?

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From Avengers: Infinity War:




Quill: Wait, what kinda weapon are we talking about here?



Thor: The Thanos-killing kind.



Quill: Don't you think that we should all have a
weapon like that?



Thor: No. You simply lack the strength to wield
them. Your bodies would crumble as your minds collapsed into madness.




Of course Quill is part-Celestial and has been shown to handle an Infinity Stone directly. He is inexperienced in the use of his powers as he only discovered his true nature a few years previously, but he is potentially as powerful as Thor, if not more so. But Thor is completely oblivious to this.










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    What leads you to believe Thor should be able to sense other superpowered beings?
    – TheLethalCarrot
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  • Because he is able to see through Loki's disguises
    – Gaius
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    @Gaius - He spends a lot of time throwing things at Loki to determine if he's real or not
    – Valorum
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    And didn't Quill lose his powers as a result of the events of GotG2?
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From Avengers: Infinity War:




Quill: Wait, what kinda weapon are we talking about here?



Thor: The Thanos-killing kind.



Quill: Don't you think that we should all have a
weapon like that?



Thor: No. You simply lack the strength to wield
them. Your bodies would crumble as your minds collapsed into madness.




Of course Quill is part-Celestial and has been shown to handle an Infinity Stone directly. He is inexperienced in the use of his powers as he only discovered his true nature a few years previously, but he is potentially as powerful as Thor, if not more so. But Thor is completely oblivious to this.










share|improve this question























  • i don't think ego was an actual celestial
    – TerranGaming
    4 hours ago






  • 4




    What leads you to believe Thor should be able to sense other superpowered beings?
    – TheLethalCarrot
    4 hours ago










  • Because he is able to see through Loki's disguises
    – Gaius
    4 hours ago






  • 1




    @Gaius - He spends a lot of time throwing things at Loki to determine if he's real or not
    – Valorum
    4 hours ago






  • 2




    And didn't Quill lose his powers as a result of the events of GotG2?
    – Daniel Roseman
    4 hours ago













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From Avengers: Infinity War:




Quill: Wait, what kinda weapon are we talking about here?



Thor: The Thanos-killing kind.



Quill: Don't you think that we should all have a
weapon like that?



Thor: No. You simply lack the strength to wield
them. Your bodies would crumble as your minds collapsed into madness.




Of course Quill is part-Celestial and has been shown to handle an Infinity Stone directly. He is inexperienced in the use of his powers as he only discovered his true nature a few years previously, but he is potentially as powerful as Thor, if not more so. But Thor is completely oblivious to this.










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From Avengers: Infinity War:




Quill: Wait, what kinda weapon are we talking about here?



Thor: The Thanos-killing kind.



Quill: Don't you think that we should all have a
weapon like that?



Thor: No. You simply lack the strength to wield
them. Your bodies would crumble as your minds collapsed into madness.




Of course Quill is part-Celestial and has been shown to handle an Infinity Stone directly. He is inexperienced in the use of his powers as he only discovered his true nature a few years previously, but he is potentially as powerful as Thor, if not more so. But Thor is completely oblivious to this.







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  • i don't think ego was an actual celestial
    – TerranGaming
    4 hours ago






  • 4




    What leads you to believe Thor should be able to sense other superpowered beings?
    – TheLethalCarrot
    4 hours ago










  • Because he is able to see through Loki's disguises
    – Gaius
    4 hours ago






  • 1




    @Gaius - He spends a lot of time throwing things at Loki to determine if he's real or not
    – Valorum
    4 hours ago






  • 2




    And didn't Quill lose his powers as a result of the events of GotG2?
    – Daniel Roseman
    4 hours ago

















  • i don't think ego was an actual celestial
    – TerranGaming
    4 hours ago






  • 4




    What leads you to believe Thor should be able to sense other superpowered beings?
    – TheLethalCarrot
    4 hours ago










  • Because he is able to see through Loki's disguises
    – Gaius
    4 hours ago






  • 1




    @Gaius - He spends a lot of time throwing things at Loki to determine if he's real or not
    – Valorum
    4 hours ago






  • 2




    And didn't Quill lose his powers as a result of the events of GotG2?
    – Daniel Roseman
    4 hours ago
















i don't think ego was an actual celestial
– TerranGaming
4 hours ago




i don't think ego was an actual celestial
– TerranGaming
4 hours ago




4




4




What leads you to believe Thor should be able to sense other superpowered beings?
– TheLethalCarrot
4 hours ago




What leads you to believe Thor should be able to sense other superpowered beings?
– TheLethalCarrot
4 hours ago












Because he is able to see through Loki's disguises
– Gaius
4 hours ago




Because he is able to see through Loki's disguises
– Gaius
4 hours ago




1




1




@Gaius - He spends a lot of time throwing things at Loki to determine if he's real or not
– Valorum
4 hours ago




@Gaius - He spends a lot of time throwing things at Loki to determine if he's real or not
– Valorum
4 hours ago




2




2




And didn't Quill lose his powers as a result of the events of GotG2?
– Daniel Roseman
4 hours ago





And didn't Quill lose his powers as a result of the events of GotG2?
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I don't believe he can but I'm not aware of any explicit answer on this. To answer this though I will look through your analysis.



"Of course Quill is part-Celestial and has been shown to handle an Infinity Stone directly."



True, however, had the other Guardians not been there it would have destroyed him, it was with their collective strength that they could keep the stones power at bay not solely Quill's. You can see it destroying Quill in the scene on YouTube.



Star Lord holds the Power Stone



Gamora alludes to the fact the stone would have killed him had he held on to it alone when Nova Prime tells them about his father.




Corpsman Dey: When we arrested you, we noticed an anomaly in your nervous system, so we had it checked out.



Peter Quill: I'm not Terran?



Nova Prime: You are half Terran. Your mother was of earth. Your father, well, he's something very ancient we've never seen here before.



Gamora: That could be why you were able to hold the stone for as long as you did.



Guardians of the Galaxy




"He is inexperienced in the use of his powers as he only discovered his true nature a few years previously"



There's no indication Quill still has his celestial powers. In fact it even points to him not having them anymore as we see in the official script when Ego is destroyed.




He looks down at his hands, where the glow FADES and DISAPPEARS.



Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2




"he is potentially as powerful as Thor, if not more so"



Looking at the above I don't think this is accurate, Thor seems to be a lot more powerful than Quill is.




And from the comments:



"What leads you to believe Thor should be able to sense other superpowered beings?" "Because he is able to see through Loki's disguises"



Not really, the few times he sees through his actual disguises without throwing something at him is when it's obvious something isn't quite right: for example, in the cell on Asgard and when Loki is disguised as Odin. Note that before this time at the end of Thor: The Dark World Thor believes the Odin he sees is Odin and not Loki.



The rest of the times Thor sees through the disguise is by throwing a objects at Loki. This is, however, to check if he's there or not as is evident throughout of Thor: Ragnarok.




LOKI: Surprise.



Thor TOSSES a bottle. It BOUNCES off of Loki’s head.



LOKI: OW!



THOR: Just had to be sure.



Thor: Ragnarok





Lastly, and quite importantly, to provide some context to the scene in Avengers: Infinity War. Thor and Quill are clearly sizing each other up and having a boasting match about who is more manly. This could just be another way for Thor to say he is better than Quill without even knowing... remember Thor likely thinks Quill is completely Terran at this point.






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    I don't believe he can but I'm not aware of any explicit answer on this. To answer this though I will look through your analysis.



    "Of course Quill is part-Celestial and has been shown to handle an Infinity Stone directly."



    True, however, had the other Guardians not been there it would have destroyed him, it was with their collective strength that they could keep the stones power at bay not solely Quill's. You can see it destroying Quill in the scene on YouTube.



    Star Lord holds the Power Stone



    Gamora alludes to the fact the stone would have killed him had he held on to it alone when Nova Prime tells them about his father.




    Corpsman Dey: When we arrested you, we noticed an anomaly in your nervous system, so we had it checked out.



    Peter Quill: I'm not Terran?



    Nova Prime: You are half Terran. Your mother was of earth. Your father, well, he's something very ancient we've never seen here before.



    Gamora: That could be why you were able to hold the stone for as long as you did.



    Guardians of the Galaxy




    "He is inexperienced in the use of his powers as he only discovered his true nature a few years previously"



    There's no indication Quill still has his celestial powers. In fact it even points to him not having them anymore as we see in the official script when Ego is destroyed.




    He looks down at his hands, where the glow FADES and DISAPPEARS.



    Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2




    "he is potentially as powerful as Thor, if not more so"



    Looking at the above I don't think this is accurate, Thor seems to be a lot more powerful than Quill is.




    And from the comments:



    "What leads you to believe Thor should be able to sense other superpowered beings?" "Because he is able to see through Loki's disguises"



    Not really, the few times he sees through his actual disguises without throwing something at him is when it's obvious something isn't quite right: for example, in the cell on Asgard and when Loki is disguised as Odin. Note that before this time at the end of Thor: The Dark World Thor believes the Odin he sees is Odin and not Loki.



    The rest of the times Thor sees through the disguise is by throwing a objects at Loki. This is, however, to check if he's there or not as is evident throughout of Thor: Ragnarok.




    LOKI: Surprise.



    Thor TOSSES a bottle. It BOUNCES off of Loki’s head.



    LOKI: OW!



    THOR: Just had to be sure.



    Thor: Ragnarok





    Lastly, and quite importantly, to provide some context to the scene in Avengers: Infinity War. Thor and Quill are clearly sizing each other up and having a boasting match about who is more manly. This could just be another way for Thor to say he is better than Quill without even knowing... remember Thor likely thinks Quill is completely Terran at this point.






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      I don't believe he can but I'm not aware of any explicit answer on this. To answer this though I will look through your analysis.



      "Of course Quill is part-Celestial and has been shown to handle an Infinity Stone directly."



      True, however, had the other Guardians not been there it would have destroyed him, it was with their collective strength that they could keep the stones power at bay not solely Quill's. You can see it destroying Quill in the scene on YouTube.



      Star Lord holds the Power Stone



      Gamora alludes to the fact the stone would have killed him had he held on to it alone when Nova Prime tells them about his father.




      Corpsman Dey: When we arrested you, we noticed an anomaly in your nervous system, so we had it checked out.



      Peter Quill: I'm not Terran?



      Nova Prime: You are half Terran. Your mother was of earth. Your father, well, he's something very ancient we've never seen here before.



      Gamora: That could be why you were able to hold the stone for as long as you did.



      Guardians of the Galaxy




      "He is inexperienced in the use of his powers as he only discovered his true nature a few years previously"



      There's no indication Quill still has his celestial powers. In fact it even points to him not having them anymore as we see in the official script when Ego is destroyed.




      He looks down at his hands, where the glow FADES and DISAPPEARS.



      Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2




      "he is potentially as powerful as Thor, if not more so"



      Looking at the above I don't think this is accurate, Thor seems to be a lot more powerful than Quill is.




      And from the comments:



      "What leads you to believe Thor should be able to sense other superpowered beings?" "Because he is able to see through Loki's disguises"



      Not really, the few times he sees through his actual disguises without throwing something at him is when it's obvious something isn't quite right: for example, in the cell on Asgard and when Loki is disguised as Odin. Note that before this time at the end of Thor: The Dark World Thor believes the Odin he sees is Odin and not Loki.



      The rest of the times Thor sees through the disguise is by throwing a objects at Loki. This is, however, to check if he's there or not as is evident throughout of Thor: Ragnarok.




      LOKI: Surprise.



      Thor TOSSES a bottle. It BOUNCES off of Loki’s head.



      LOKI: OW!



      THOR: Just had to be sure.



      Thor: Ragnarok





      Lastly, and quite importantly, to provide some context to the scene in Avengers: Infinity War. Thor and Quill are clearly sizing each other up and having a boasting match about who is more manly. This could just be another way for Thor to say he is better than Quill without even knowing... remember Thor likely thinks Quill is completely Terran at this point.






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        I don't believe he can but I'm not aware of any explicit answer on this. To answer this though I will look through your analysis.



        "Of course Quill is part-Celestial and has been shown to handle an Infinity Stone directly."



        True, however, had the other Guardians not been there it would have destroyed him, it was with their collective strength that they could keep the stones power at bay not solely Quill's. You can see it destroying Quill in the scene on YouTube.



        Star Lord holds the Power Stone



        Gamora alludes to the fact the stone would have killed him had he held on to it alone when Nova Prime tells them about his father.




        Corpsman Dey: When we arrested you, we noticed an anomaly in your nervous system, so we had it checked out.



        Peter Quill: I'm not Terran?



        Nova Prime: You are half Terran. Your mother was of earth. Your father, well, he's something very ancient we've never seen here before.



        Gamora: That could be why you were able to hold the stone for as long as you did.



        Guardians of the Galaxy




        "He is inexperienced in the use of his powers as he only discovered his true nature a few years previously"



        There's no indication Quill still has his celestial powers. In fact it even points to him not having them anymore as we see in the official script when Ego is destroyed.




        He looks down at his hands, where the glow FADES and DISAPPEARS.



        Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2




        "he is potentially as powerful as Thor, if not more so"



        Looking at the above I don't think this is accurate, Thor seems to be a lot more powerful than Quill is.




        And from the comments:



        "What leads you to believe Thor should be able to sense other superpowered beings?" "Because he is able to see through Loki's disguises"



        Not really, the few times he sees through his actual disguises without throwing something at him is when it's obvious something isn't quite right: for example, in the cell on Asgard and when Loki is disguised as Odin. Note that before this time at the end of Thor: The Dark World Thor believes the Odin he sees is Odin and not Loki.



        The rest of the times Thor sees through the disguise is by throwing a objects at Loki. This is, however, to check if he's there or not as is evident throughout of Thor: Ragnarok.




        LOKI: Surprise.



        Thor TOSSES a bottle. It BOUNCES off of Loki’s head.



        LOKI: OW!



        THOR: Just had to be sure.



        Thor: Ragnarok





        Lastly, and quite importantly, to provide some context to the scene in Avengers: Infinity War. Thor and Quill are clearly sizing each other up and having a boasting match about who is more manly. This could just be another way for Thor to say he is better than Quill without even knowing... remember Thor likely thinks Quill is completely Terran at this point.






        share|improve this answer














        I don't believe he can but I'm not aware of any explicit answer on this. To answer this though I will look through your analysis.



        "Of course Quill is part-Celestial and has been shown to handle an Infinity Stone directly."



        True, however, had the other Guardians not been there it would have destroyed him, it was with their collective strength that they could keep the stones power at bay not solely Quill's. You can see it destroying Quill in the scene on YouTube.



        Star Lord holds the Power Stone



        Gamora alludes to the fact the stone would have killed him had he held on to it alone when Nova Prime tells them about his father.




        Corpsman Dey: When we arrested you, we noticed an anomaly in your nervous system, so we had it checked out.



        Peter Quill: I'm not Terran?



        Nova Prime: You are half Terran. Your mother was of earth. Your father, well, he's something very ancient we've never seen here before.



        Gamora: That could be why you were able to hold the stone for as long as you did.



        Guardians of the Galaxy




        "He is inexperienced in the use of his powers as he only discovered his true nature a few years previously"



        There's no indication Quill still has his celestial powers. In fact it even points to him not having them anymore as we see in the official script when Ego is destroyed.




        He looks down at his hands, where the glow FADES and DISAPPEARS.



        Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2




        "he is potentially as powerful as Thor, if not more so"



        Looking at the above I don't think this is accurate, Thor seems to be a lot more powerful than Quill is.




        And from the comments:



        "What leads you to believe Thor should be able to sense other superpowered beings?" "Because he is able to see through Loki's disguises"



        Not really, the few times he sees through his actual disguises without throwing something at him is when it's obvious something isn't quite right: for example, in the cell on Asgard and when Loki is disguised as Odin. Note that before this time at the end of Thor: The Dark World Thor believes the Odin he sees is Odin and not Loki.



        The rest of the times Thor sees through the disguise is by throwing a objects at Loki. This is, however, to check if he's there or not as is evident throughout of Thor: Ragnarok.




        LOKI: Surprise.



        Thor TOSSES a bottle. It BOUNCES off of Loki’s head.



        LOKI: OW!



        THOR: Just had to be sure.



        Thor: Ragnarok





        Lastly, and quite importantly, to provide some context to the scene in Avengers: Infinity War. Thor and Quill are clearly sizing each other up and having a boasting match about who is more manly. This could just be another way for Thor to say he is better than Quill without even knowing... remember Thor likely thinks Quill is completely Terran at this point.







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