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I have recently joined an organization. Like every other organization, we also have nine working hours a day. But ever since I have joined, my manager wants me to stay late and work extra hours in office. I don't see any reason to do so as my project has not yet started.



It takes me more than one and a half hours to reach home/office, sometimes two hours when the traffic is worse. I do not even take regular coffee breaks, just a one hour lunch break. For the rest of the eight hours, I spend at my desk doing my work. No Facebook, no Twitter, nothing else.



Still he wants me to spend extra hours in office. On top of that, he also suggested I rent a home near by the office. Why would I do that? I am a native in the city. I have my own home and a family.



I asked him so many times why he wants me to spend extra hours. He always says he has seen some spark in me.



He is a from sales background whereas I am a developer. By listening to his ideas about new projects and applications, it clearly shows that he has no idea about how software development works. I don't know how to handle him now and I feel like I am stuck here in this company.



I am not being paid for working extra and my manager knows that I have to travel for more than one and half hours to reach my home/office.










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    Would this additional time be paid? Does your supervisor know you are settled in your current home? Update your question.
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  • Are you working at Rockstar? can you say that your "spark" is the ability to not work OT when it's not needed?
    – SZCZERZO KŁY
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  • Side note, moving closer to work can be a reasonable investment. You have to calculate time spent on commute, wear and tear of your vehicle, the free time that you lose, and the stress that goes with it, to see if it makes sense for you. In some places you can rent a place Monday to Friday only.
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    @rath I have my own house in the town. Why should I be renting a home? And that too for 5 days a week. And anyway, you cannot rent a place for just 5 days a week in India. You have to stay in some hotel then. Which is again an extra expense.
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I have recently joined an organization. Like every other organization, we also have nine working hours a day. But ever since I have joined, my manager wants me to stay late and work extra hours in office. I don't see any reason to do so as my project has not yet started.



It takes me more than one and a half hours to reach home/office, sometimes two hours when the traffic is worse. I do not even take regular coffee breaks, just a one hour lunch break. For the rest of the eight hours, I spend at my desk doing my work. No Facebook, no Twitter, nothing else.



Still he wants me to spend extra hours in office. On top of that, he also suggested I rent a home near by the office. Why would I do that? I am a native in the city. I have my own home and a family.



I asked him so many times why he wants me to spend extra hours. He always says he has seen some spark in me.



He is a from sales background whereas I am a developer. By listening to his ideas about new projects and applications, it clearly shows that he has no idea about how software development works. I don't know how to handle him now and I feel like I am stuck here in this company.



I am not being paid for working extra and my manager knows that I have to travel for more than one and half hours to reach my home/office.










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    Would this additional time be paid? Does your supervisor know you are settled in your current home? Update your question.
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  • Are you working at Rockstar? can you say that your "spark" is the ability to not work OT when it's not needed?
    – SZCZERZO KŁY
    8 hours ago










  • Side note, moving closer to work can be a reasonable investment. You have to calculate time spent on commute, wear and tear of your vehicle, the free time that you lose, and the stress that goes with it, to see if it makes sense for you. In some places you can rent a place Monday to Friday only.
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    @rath I have my own house in the town. Why should I be renting a home? And that too for 5 days a week. And anyway, you cannot rent a place for just 5 days a week in India. You have to stay in some hotel then. Which is again an extra expense.
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I have recently joined an organization. Like every other organization, we also have nine working hours a day. But ever since I have joined, my manager wants me to stay late and work extra hours in office. I don't see any reason to do so as my project has not yet started.



It takes me more than one and a half hours to reach home/office, sometimes two hours when the traffic is worse. I do not even take regular coffee breaks, just a one hour lunch break. For the rest of the eight hours, I spend at my desk doing my work. No Facebook, no Twitter, nothing else.



Still he wants me to spend extra hours in office. On top of that, he also suggested I rent a home near by the office. Why would I do that? I am a native in the city. I have my own home and a family.



I asked him so many times why he wants me to spend extra hours. He always says he has seen some spark in me.



He is a from sales background whereas I am a developer. By listening to his ideas about new projects and applications, it clearly shows that he has no idea about how software development works. I don't know how to handle him now and I feel like I am stuck here in this company.



I am not being paid for working extra and my manager knows that I have to travel for more than one and half hours to reach my home/office.










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I have recently joined an organization. Like every other organization, we also have nine working hours a day. But ever since I have joined, my manager wants me to stay late and work extra hours in office. I don't see any reason to do so as my project has not yet started.



It takes me more than one and a half hours to reach home/office, sometimes two hours when the traffic is worse. I do not even take regular coffee breaks, just a one hour lunch break. For the rest of the eight hours, I spend at my desk doing my work. No Facebook, no Twitter, nothing else.



Still he wants me to spend extra hours in office. On top of that, he also suggested I rent a home near by the office. Why would I do that? I am a native in the city. I have my own home and a family.



I asked him so many times why he wants me to spend extra hours. He always says he has seen some spark in me.



He is a from sales background whereas I am a developer. By listening to his ideas about new projects and applications, it clearly shows that he has no idea about how software development works. I don't know how to handle him now and I feel like I am stuck here in this company.



I am not being paid for working extra and my manager knows that I have to travel for more than one and half hours to reach my home/office.







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    Would this additional time be paid? Does your supervisor know you are settled in your current home? Update your question.
    – Ramhound
    8 hours ago










  • Are you working at Rockstar? can you say that your "spark" is the ability to not work OT when it's not needed?
    – SZCZERZO KŁY
    8 hours ago










  • Side note, moving closer to work can be a reasonable investment. You have to calculate time spent on commute, wear and tear of your vehicle, the free time that you lose, and the stress that goes with it, to see if it makes sense for you. In some places you can rent a place Monday to Friday only.
    – rath
    7 hours ago






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    @rath I have my own house in the town. Why should I be renting a home? And that too for 5 days a week. And anyway, you cannot rent a place for just 5 days a week in India. You have to stay in some hotel then. Which is again an extra expense.
    – Lokesh
    7 hours ago










  • Are you the only one staying in office after hours? Or everyone/team?
    – Sandra K
    5 hours ago












  • 2




    Would this additional time be paid? Does your supervisor know you are settled in your current home? Update your question.
    – Ramhound
    8 hours ago










  • Are you working at Rockstar? can you say that your "spark" is the ability to not work OT when it's not needed?
    – SZCZERZO KŁY
    8 hours ago










  • Side note, moving closer to work can be a reasonable investment. You have to calculate time spent on commute, wear and tear of your vehicle, the free time that you lose, and the stress that goes with it, to see if it makes sense for you. In some places you can rent a place Monday to Friday only.
    – rath
    7 hours ago






  • 1




    @rath I have my own house in the town. Why should I be renting a home? And that too for 5 days a week. And anyway, you cannot rent a place for just 5 days a week in India. You have to stay in some hotel then. Which is again an extra expense.
    – Lokesh
    7 hours ago










  • Are you the only one staying in office after hours? Or everyone/team?
    – Sandra K
    5 hours ago







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Would this additional time be paid? Does your supervisor know you are settled in your current home? Update your question.
– Ramhound
8 hours ago




Would this additional time be paid? Does your supervisor know you are settled in your current home? Update your question.
– Ramhound
8 hours ago












Are you working at Rockstar? can you say that your "spark" is the ability to not work OT when it's not needed?
– SZCZERZO KŁY
8 hours ago




Are you working at Rockstar? can you say that your "spark" is the ability to not work OT when it's not needed?
– SZCZERZO KŁY
8 hours ago












Side note, moving closer to work can be a reasonable investment. You have to calculate time spent on commute, wear and tear of your vehicle, the free time that you lose, and the stress that goes with it, to see if it makes sense for you. In some places you can rent a place Monday to Friday only.
– rath
7 hours ago




Side note, moving closer to work can be a reasonable investment. You have to calculate time spent on commute, wear and tear of your vehicle, the free time that you lose, and the stress that goes with it, to see if it makes sense for you. In some places you can rent a place Monday to Friday only.
– rath
7 hours ago




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@rath I have my own house in the town. Why should I be renting a home? And that too for 5 days a week. And anyway, you cannot rent a place for just 5 days a week in India. You have to stay in some hotel then. Which is again an extra expense.
– Lokesh
7 hours ago




@rath I have my own house in the town. Why should I be renting a home? And that too for 5 days a week. And anyway, you cannot rent a place for just 5 days a week in India. You have to stay in some hotel then. Which is again an extra expense.
– Lokesh
7 hours ago












Are you the only one staying in office after hours? Or everyone/team?
– Sandra K
5 hours ago




Are you the only one staying in office after hours? Or everyone/team?
– Sandra K
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There’s an old wisdom: You can make people stay in the office for 80 hours a week, but you can’t make them work more than 40 hours a week.



It is also well known that working more than 40 hours a week regularly makes your productivity drop. Not your hourly productivity but your absolute productivity.



So if you did what your manager wanted, he wouldn’t get more work from you, it would only make you exhausted, unhappy and possibly ill. And nobody will think any better of you, and nobody will thank you for it. (I suppose being paid for the extra hours wasn’t mentioned, right ?) If he works long hours himself, he should try doing the same work in less time.



It seems you are working hard for forty hours a week. Your manager isn’t going to get more, no matter what he tries. What he tries is totally misguided.



I’d say when he comes again, you can tell him that you like your home and you’re not going to move, and that you are most productive working 40 hours a week. Make no concessions. Just a clear no that doesn’t leave room for discussion.






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    If you have unfinished or urgent work it makes sense to stay late hours but as your project is not even started it doesn't. Be firm and let him know that you are not willing to stay late hours unless he clearly says what he expects you to do.
    Let him know that it is not possible for you to stay late hours every day unless it's urgent because it takes a long time to travel. Also let him know that you can't relocate as you have a family life.






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      I already told him that if there is any urgency I can stay up late. He agrees with me for that time but again after few days, he starts the same thing. As far as relocation is concerned, he keeps on suggesting me flexible working hours. Work for 2 days at home and 3 days rent a room and all. I am just wondering why does he want me to stay up late?
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    • What if you keep mentioning your reasoning repeatedly until he realize that you won't change your mind?
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      Why? Possibly little-man-syndrome: Because he is short (or has other problems) he needs to show you his power. Or he thinks he can get more work out if you by squeezing you like a lemon. Be strong. Say no.
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    • @gnasher729 exactly. if you give in once you will have to do it everyday. so don't give in and be strong and say no
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    Concerning the renting nearby- He could be commenting on your commute time and trying to be sympathetic. But I think he is testing your boundaries and attempting to set precedents. For example, if you live closer to work then you can work an extra hour in the office versus needing that hour to commute home. All things considered- can he provide any other reason for you to stay closer other than to shorten the commute? I think he wants you to spend that extra time "saved" in the office.



    While it is true that you don't have a project now- he expects you to stay late. I suspect he will also expect you to stay late once the projects are rolling, and the deadlines approaching. You can either fold and accept the precedents or you can set the boundaries now and insist on working 9-hour days.






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      Based on my experience, this sounds a little like your manager would like to have someone who he can rely on to take his wild ideas and run with them. There could be an unspoken history or internal politicking taking place that you are not aware of, which may be driving him in this direction.



      Maybe he thinks he can make a big name for himself by implementing his ideas but upper management will not allow him the resources to freely do it. If he can get someone to work outside the regular bounds of the workday, maybe he could make use of them for his ends. He assumes this would help his ideas come to life and solidify him as a rock star in the company.



      He keeps hinting that he would like you to be that person and if you lived closer and gave more time freely, that would signal in his mind, that you are going to be his go-to person.



      Given that you have stated that he doesn't have a strong grasp on what is feasible/realistic that following his suggestions would be problematic and would not align with your goals or work-life balance.



      Maintain your boundaries and remain respectful until it interferes with your ability to work or how your boss treats you compared to other employees.






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        There’s an old wisdom: You can make people stay in the office for 80 hours a week, but you can’t make them work more than 40 hours a week.



        It is also well known that working more than 40 hours a week regularly makes your productivity drop. Not your hourly productivity but your absolute productivity.



        So if you did what your manager wanted, he wouldn’t get more work from you, it would only make you exhausted, unhappy and possibly ill. And nobody will think any better of you, and nobody will thank you for it. (I suppose being paid for the extra hours wasn’t mentioned, right ?) If he works long hours himself, he should try doing the same work in less time.



        It seems you are working hard for forty hours a week. Your manager isn’t going to get more, no matter what he tries. What he tries is totally misguided.



        I’d say when he comes again, you can tell him that you like your home and you’re not going to move, and that you are most productive working 40 hours a week. Make no concessions. Just a clear no that doesn’t leave room for discussion.






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          There’s an old wisdom: You can make people stay in the office for 80 hours a week, but you can’t make them work more than 40 hours a week.



          It is also well known that working more than 40 hours a week regularly makes your productivity drop. Not your hourly productivity but your absolute productivity.



          So if you did what your manager wanted, he wouldn’t get more work from you, it would only make you exhausted, unhappy and possibly ill. And nobody will think any better of you, and nobody will thank you for it. (I suppose being paid for the extra hours wasn’t mentioned, right ?) If he works long hours himself, he should try doing the same work in less time.



          It seems you are working hard for forty hours a week. Your manager isn’t going to get more, no matter what he tries. What he tries is totally misguided.



          I’d say when he comes again, you can tell him that you like your home and you’re not going to move, and that you are most productive working 40 hours a week. Make no concessions. Just a clear no that doesn’t leave room for discussion.






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            There’s an old wisdom: You can make people stay in the office for 80 hours a week, but you can’t make them work more than 40 hours a week.



            It is also well known that working more than 40 hours a week regularly makes your productivity drop. Not your hourly productivity but your absolute productivity.



            So if you did what your manager wanted, he wouldn’t get more work from you, it would only make you exhausted, unhappy and possibly ill. And nobody will think any better of you, and nobody will thank you for it. (I suppose being paid for the extra hours wasn’t mentioned, right ?) If he works long hours himself, he should try doing the same work in less time.



            It seems you are working hard for forty hours a week. Your manager isn’t going to get more, no matter what he tries. What he tries is totally misguided.



            I’d say when he comes again, you can tell him that you like your home and you’re not going to move, and that you are most productive working 40 hours a week. Make no concessions. Just a clear no that doesn’t leave room for discussion.






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            There’s an old wisdom: You can make people stay in the office for 80 hours a week, but you can’t make them work more than 40 hours a week.



            It is also well known that working more than 40 hours a week regularly makes your productivity drop. Not your hourly productivity but your absolute productivity.



            So if you did what your manager wanted, he wouldn’t get more work from you, it would only make you exhausted, unhappy and possibly ill. And nobody will think any better of you, and nobody will thank you for it. (I suppose being paid for the extra hours wasn’t mentioned, right ?) If he works long hours himself, he should try doing the same work in less time.



            It seems you are working hard for forty hours a week. Your manager isn’t going to get more, no matter what he tries. What he tries is totally misguided.



            I’d say when he comes again, you can tell him that you like your home and you’re not going to move, and that you are most productive working 40 hours a week. Make no concessions. Just a clear no that doesn’t leave room for discussion.







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                If you have unfinished or urgent work it makes sense to stay late hours but as your project is not even started it doesn't. Be firm and let him know that you are not willing to stay late hours unless he clearly says what he expects you to do.
                Let him know that it is not possible for you to stay late hours every day unless it's urgent because it takes a long time to travel. Also let him know that you can't relocate as you have a family life.






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                  I already told him that if there is any urgency I can stay up late. He agrees with me for that time but again after few days, he starts the same thing. As far as relocation is concerned, he keeps on suggesting me flexible working hours. Work for 2 days at home and 3 days rent a room and all. I am just wondering why does he want me to stay up late?
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                • What if you keep mentioning your reasoning repeatedly until he realize that you won't change your mind?
                  – PrasadeeJ
                  7 hours ago






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                  Why? Possibly little-man-syndrome: Because he is short (or has other problems) he needs to show you his power. Or he thinks he can get more work out if you by squeezing you like a lemon. Be strong. Say no.
                  – gnasher729
                  7 hours ago










                • @gnasher729 exactly. if you give in once you will have to do it everyday. so don't give in and be strong and say no
                  – PrasadeeJ
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                If you have unfinished or urgent work it makes sense to stay late hours but as your project is not even started it doesn't. Be firm and let him know that you are not willing to stay late hours unless he clearly says what he expects you to do.
                Let him know that it is not possible for you to stay late hours every day unless it's urgent because it takes a long time to travel. Also let him know that you can't relocate as you have a family life.






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                  I already told him that if there is any urgency I can stay up late. He agrees with me for that time but again after few days, he starts the same thing. As far as relocation is concerned, he keeps on suggesting me flexible working hours. Work for 2 days at home and 3 days rent a room and all. I am just wondering why does he want me to stay up late?
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                  7 hours ago











                • What if you keep mentioning your reasoning repeatedly until he realize that you won't change your mind?
                  – PrasadeeJ
                  7 hours ago






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                  Why? Possibly little-man-syndrome: Because he is short (or has other problems) he needs to show you his power. Or he thinks he can get more work out if you by squeezing you like a lemon. Be strong. Say no.
                  – gnasher729
                  7 hours ago










                • @gnasher729 exactly. if you give in once you will have to do it everyday. so don't give in and be strong and say no
                  – PrasadeeJ
                  7 hours ago












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                If you have unfinished or urgent work it makes sense to stay late hours but as your project is not even started it doesn't. Be firm and let him know that you are not willing to stay late hours unless he clearly says what he expects you to do.
                Let him know that it is not possible for you to stay late hours every day unless it's urgent because it takes a long time to travel. Also let him know that you can't relocate as you have a family life.






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                If you have unfinished or urgent work it makes sense to stay late hours but as your project is not even started it doesn't. Be firm and let him know that you are not willing to stay late hours unless he clearly says what he expects you to do.
                Let him know that it is not possible for you to stay late hours every day unless it's urgent because it takes a long time to travel. Also let him know that you can't relocate as you have a family life.







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                  I already told him that if there is any urgency I can stay up late. He agrees with me for that time but again after few days, he starts the same thing. As far as relocation is concerned, he keeps on suggesting me flexible working hours. Work for 2 days at home and 3 days rent a room and all. I am just wondering why does he want me to stay up late?
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                • What if you keep mentioning your reasoning repeatedly until he realize that you won't change your mind?
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                  Why? Possibly little-man-syndrome: Because he is short (or has other problems) he needs to show you his power. Or he thinks he can get more work out if you by squeezing you like a lemon. Be strong. Say no.
                  – gnasher729
                  7 hours ago










                • @gnasher729 exactly. if you give in once you will have to do it everyday. so don't give in and be strong and say no
                  – PrasadeeJ
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                  I already told him that if there is any urgency I can stay up late. He agrees with me for that time but again after few days, he starts the same thing. As far as relocation is concerned, he keeps on suggesting me flexible working hours. Work for 2 days at home and 3 days rent a room and all. I am just wondering why does he want me to stay up late?
                  – Lokesh
                  7 hours ago











                • What if you keep mentioning your reasoning repeatedly until he realize that you won't change your mind?
                  – PrasadeeJ
                  7 hours ago






                • 1




                  Why? Possibly little-man-syndrome: Because he is short (or has other problems) he needs to show you his power. Or he thinks he can get more work out if you by squeezing you like a lemon. Be strong. Say no.
                  – gnasher729
                  7 hours ago










                • @gnasher729 exactly. if you give in once you will have to do it everyday. so don't give in and be strong and say no
                  – PrasadeeJ
                  7 hours ago







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                I already told him that if there is any urgency I can stay up late. He agrees with me for that time but again after few days, he starts the same thing. As far as relocation is concerned, he keeps on suggesting me flexible working hours. Work for 2 days at home and 3 days rent a room and all. I am just wondering why does he want me to stay up late?
                – Lokesh
                7 hours ago





                I already told him that if there is any urgency I can stay up late. He agrees with me for that time but again after few days, he starts the same thing. As far as relocation is concerned, he keeps on suggesting me flexible working hours. Work for 2 days at home and 3 days rent a room and all. I am just wondering why does he want me to stay up late?
                – Lokesh
                7 hours ago













                What if you keep mentioning your reasoning repeatedly until he realize that you won't change your mind?
                – PrasadeeJ
                7 hours ago




                What if you keep mentioning your reasoning repeatedly until he realize that you won't change your mind?
                – PrasadeeJ
                7 hours ago




                1




                1




                Why? Possibly little-man-syndrome: Because he is short (or has other problems) he needs to show you his power. Or he thinks he can get more work out if you by squeezing you like a lemon. Be strong. Say no.
                – gnasher729
                7 hours ago




                Why? Possibly little-man-syndrome: Because he is short (or has other problems) he needs to show you his power. Or he thinks he can get more work out if you by squeezing you like a lemon. Be strong. Say no.
                – gnasher729
                7 hours ago












                @gnasher729 exactly. if you give in once you will have to do it everyday. so don't give in and be strong and say no
                – PrasadeeJ
                7 hours ago




                @gnasher729 exactly. if you give in once you will have to do it everyday. so don't give in and be strong and say no
                – PrasadeeJ
                7 hours ago










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                Concerning the renting nearby- He could be commenting on your commute time and trying to be sympathetic. But I think he is testing your boundaries and attempting to set precedents. For example, if you live closer to work then you can work an extra hour in the office versus needing that hour to commute home. All things considered- can he provide any other reason for you to stay closer other than to shorten the commute? I think he wants you to spend that extra time "saved" in the office.



                While it is true that you don't have a project now- he expects you to stay late. I suspect he will also expect you to stay late once the projects are rolling, and the deadlines approaching. You can either fold and accept the precedents or you can set the boundaries now and insist on working 9-hour days.






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                  Concerning the renting nearby- He could be commenting on your commute time and trying to be sympathetic. But I think he is testing your boundaries and attempting to set precedents. For example, if you live closer to work then you can work an extra hour in the office versus needing that hour to commute home. All things considered- can he provide any other reason for you to stay closer other than to shorten the commute? I think he wants you to spend that extra time "saved" in the office.



                  While it is true that you don't have a project now- he expects you to stay late. I suspect he will also expect you to stay late once the projects are rolling, and the deadlines approaching. You can either fold and accept the precedents or you can set the boundaries now and insist on working 9-hour days.






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                    Concerning the renting nearby- He could be commenting on your commute time and trying to be sympathetic. But I think he is testing your boundaries and attempting to set precedents. For example, if you live closer to work then you can work an extra hour in the office versus needing that hour to commute home. All things considered- can he provide any other reason for you to stay closer other than to shorten the commute? I think he wants you to spend that extra time "saved" in the office.



                    While it is true that you don't have a project now- he expects you to stay late. I suspect he will also expect you to stay late once the projects are rolling, and the deadlines approaching. You can either fold and accept the precedents or you can set the boundaries now and insist on working 9-hour days.






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                    Concerning the renting nearby- He could be commenting on your commute time and trying to be sympathetic. But I think he is testing your boundaries and attempting to set precedents. For example, if you live closer to work then you can work an extra hour in the office versus needing that hour to commute home. All things considered- can he provide any other reason for you to stay closer other than to shorten the commute? I think he wants you to spend that extra time "saved" in the office.



                    While it is true that you don't have a project now- he expects you to stay late. I suspect he will also expect you to stay late once the projects are rolling, and the deadlines approaching. You can either fold and accept the precedents or you can set the boundaries now and insist on working 9-hour days.







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                        Based on my experience, this sounds a little like your manager would like to have someone who he can rely on to take his wild ideas and run with them. There could be an unspoken history or internal politicking taking place that you are not aware of, which may be driving him in this direction.



                        Maybe he thinks he can make a big name for himself by implementing his ideas but upper management will not allow him the resources to freely do it. If he can get someone to work outside the regular bounds of the workday, maybe he could make use of them for his ends. He assumes this would help his ideas come to life and solidify him as a rock star in the company.



                        He keeps hinting that he would like you to be that person and if you lived closer and gave more time freely, that would signal in his mind, that you are going to be his go-to person.



                        Given that you have stated that he doesn't have a strong grasp on what is feasible/realistic that following his suggestions would be problematic and would not align with your goals or work-life balance.



                        Maintain your boundaries and remain respectful until it interferes with your ability to work or how your boss treats you compared to other employees.






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                          Based on my experience, this sounds a little like your manager would like to have someone who he can rely on to take his wild ideas and run with them. There could be an unspoken history or internal politicking taking place that you are not aware of, which may be driving him in this direction.



                          Maybe he thinks he can make a big name for himself by implementing his ideas but upper management will not allow him the resources to freely do it. If he can get someone to work outside the regular bounds of the workday, maybe he could make use of them for his ends. He assumes this would help his ideas come to life and solidify him as a rock star in the company.



                          He keeps hinting that he would like you to be that person and if you lived closer and gave more time freely, that would signal in his mind, that you are going to be his go-to person.



                          Given that you have stated that he doesn't have a strong grasp on what is feasible/realistic that following his suggestions would be problematic and would not align with your goals or work-life balance.



                          Maintain your boundaries and remain respectful until it interferes with your ability to work or how your boss treats you compared to other employees.






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                            Based on my experience, this sounds a little like your manager would like to have someone who he can rely on to take his wild ideas and run with them. There could be an unspoken history or internal politicking taking place that you are not aware of, which may be driving him in this direction.



                            Maybe he thinks he can make a big name for himself by implementing his ideas but upper management will not allow him the resources to freely do it. If he can get someone to work outside the regular bounds of the workday, maybe he could make use of them for his ends. He assumes this would help his ideas come to life and solidify him as a rock star in the company.



                            He keeps hinting that he would like you to be that person and if you lived closer and gave more time freely, that would signal in his mind, that you are going to be his go-to person.



                            Given that you have stated that he doesn't have a strong grasp on what is feasible/realistic that following his suggestions would be problematic and would not align with your goals or work-life balance.



                            Maintain your boundaries and remain respectful until it interferes with your ability to work or how your boss treats you compared to other employees.






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                            Based on my experience, this sounds a little like your manager would like to have someone who he can rely on to take his wild ideas and run with them. There could be an unspoken history or internal politicking taking place that you are not aware of, which may be driving him in this direction.



                            Maybe he thinks he can make a big name for himself by implementing his ideas but upper management will not allow him the resources to freely do it. If he can get someone to work outside the regular bounds of the workday, maybe he could make use of them for his ends. He assumes this would help his ideas come to life and solidify him as a rock star in the company.



                            He keeps hinting that he would like you to be that person and if you lived closer and gave more time freely, that would signal in his mind, that you are going to be his go-to person.



                            Given that you have stated that he doesn't have a strong grasp on what is feasible/realistic that following his suggestions would be problematic and would not align with your goals or work-life balance.



                            Maintain your boundaries and remain respectful until it interferes with your ability to work or how your boss treats you compared to other employees.







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