Is there a secret level of deeply-hidden web-pages called “Marianas Web”?

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There is a rumour that there is an Internet-based network, similar to the dark web (not to be confused with the deep web) called Mariana's Web (after Marianas Trench.)



The Infographics Show discussed the rumours of its existence:




Marianas web the scariest part of the Internet. Marianas web became widely
known because of an iceberg infographic that spread across the Internet. This
infographic divides the internet into different levels ranging from level zero
or the common web that most of us are familiar with to several other hidden
levels. Marianas web is identified as level 5 - the most hidden level of the
internet.




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there is no concrete evidence that clearly proves or disproves its existence




This (machine-translated English, from Portugese via Spanish) Softonic article gives credence to its existence, while dismissing some of the fictitious software required to reach it:




In the fifth layer we would find the so-called Web Marianas. The Mariana Trench, known as the deepest place in the oceans of Planet Earth, may have inspired the name.



In a popular infographic that goes around the internet, in this part of the Deep Web begin with speculations about the use of a tool called "Closed Shell Systems" (closed systems), in addition to another called "Polymeric Falcighol Derivation" (Falcighol Polymer Derivation) ).



All this, however, would be fictitious names and tools, created from nothing. Only some curious new users end up believing them. Leaving the jokes aside, however, it is well known that several websites need programs and settings much more advanced than Tor to be accessed.



These sites are what would form the so-called Marianas Web.




This Engadget article dismisses it as a myth:




Mariana's Web is certainly the definition of spooky BS, especially because it's technically impossible; it's supposedly only accessible through quantum computers -- which currently only exist in science fiction.



Yet to the chagrin of people who love facts, it's slowly starting to be reported as fact.




A question on Quora has received conflicting answers.



Is there any evidence of a network beyond the dark web, called Marianas Web?









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    It's going to be very difficult to provide any answer other than "we don't know"... to say "No there's not" would require proving a negative! I think the question as worded "Is there any evidence..." is much more answerable.
    – elliot svensson
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  • I feel like this is going to be like trying to prove that aliens aren't being stored in Area 51. If there's no evidence for something that's supposedly real and well hidden, people will just use that lack of evidence as proof that it's real and well hidden.
    – Giter
    4 mins ago















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There is a rumour that there is an Internet-based network, similar to the dark web (not to be confused with the deep web) called Mariana's Web (after Marianas Trench.)



The Infographics Show discussed the rumours of its existence:




Marianas web the scariest part of the Internet. Marianas web became widely
known because of an iceberg infographic that spread across the Internet. This
infographic divides the internet into different levels ranging from level zero
or the common web that most of us are familiar with to several other hidden
levels. Marianas web is identified as level 5 - the most hidden level of the
internet.




[...]




there is no concrete evidence that clearly proves or disproves its existence




This (machine-translated English, from Portugese via Spanish) Softonic article gives credence to its existence, while dismissing some of the fictitious software required to reach it:




In the fifth layer we would find the so-called Web Marianas. The Mariana Trench, known as the deepest place in the oceans of Planet Earth, may have inspired the name.



In a popular infographic that goes around the internet, in this part of the Deep Web begin with speculations about the use of a tool called "Closed Shell Systems" (closed systems), in addition to another called "Polymeric Falcighol Derivation" (Falcighol Polymer Derivation) ).



All this, however, would be fictitious names and tools, created from nothing. Only some curious new users end up believing them. Leaving the jokes aside, however, it is well known that several websites need programs and settings much more advanced than Tor to be accessed.



These sites are what would form the so-called Marianas Web.




This Engadget article dismisses it as a myth:




Mariana's Web is certainly the definition of spooky BS, especially because it's technically impossible; it's supposedly only accessible through quantum computers -- which currently only exist in science fiction.



Yet to the chagrin of people who love facts, it's slowly starting to be reported as fact.




A question on Quora has received conflicting answers.



Is there any evidence of a network beyond the dark web, called Marianas Web?









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    It's going to be very difficult to provide any answer other than "we don't know"... to say "No there's not" would require proving a negative! I think the question as worded "Is there any evidence..." is much more answerable.
    – elliot svensson
    20 mins ago










  • I feel like this is going to be like trying to prove that aliens aren't being stored in Area 51. If there's no evidence for something that's supposedly real and well hidden, people will just use that lack of evidence as proof that it's real and well hidden.
    – Giter
    4 mins ago













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There is a rumour that there is an Internet-based network, similar to the dark web (not to be confused with the deep web) called Mariana's Web (after Marianas Trench.)



The Infographics Show discussed the rumours of its existence:




Marianas web the scariest part of the Internet. Marianas web became widely
known because of an iceberg infographic that spread across the Internet. This
infographic divides the internet into different levels ranging from level zero
or the common web that most of us are familiar with to several other hidden
levels. Marianas web is identified as level 5 - the most hidden level of the
internet.




[...]




there is no concrete evidence that clearly proves or disproves its existence




This (machine-translated English, from Portugese via Spanish) Softonic article gives credence to its existence, while dismissing some of the fictitious software required to reach it:




In the fifth layer we would find the so-called Web Marianas. The Mariana Trench, known as the deepest place in the oceans of Planet Earth, may have inspired the name.



In a popular infographic that goes around the internet, in this part of the Deep Web begin with speculations about the use of a tool called "Closed Shell Systems" (closed systems), in addition to another called "Polymeric Falcighol Derivation" (Falcighol Polymer Derivation) ).



All this, however, would be fictitious names and tools, created from nothing. Only some curious new users end up believing them. Leaving the jokes aside, however, it is well known that several websites need programs and settings much more advanced than Tor to be accessed.



These sites are what would form the so-called Marianas Web.




This Engadget article dismisses it as a myth:




Mariana's Web is certainly the definition of spooky BS, especially because it's technically impossible; it's supposedly only accessible through quantum computers -- which currently only exist in science fiction.



Yet to the chagrin of people who love facts, it's slowly starting to be reported as fact.




A question on Quora has received conflicting answers.



Is there any evidence of a network beyond the dark web, called Marianas Web?









share















There is a rumour that there is an Internet-based network, similar to the dark web (not to be confused with the deep web) called Mariana's Web (after Marianas Trench.)



The Infographics Show discussed the rumours of its existence:




Marianas web the scariest part of the Internet. Marianas web became widely
known because of an iceberg infographic that spread across the Internet. This
infographic divides the internet into different levels ranging from level zero
or the common web that most of us are familiar with to several other hidden
levels. Marianas web is identified as level 5 - the most hidden level of the
internet.




[...]




there is no concrete evidence that clearly proves or disproves its existence




This (machine-translated English, from Portugese via Spanish) Softonic article gives credence to its existence, while dismissing some of the fictitious software required to reach it:




In the fifth layer we would find the so-called Web Marianas. The Mariana Trench, known as the deepest place in the oceans of Planet Earth, may have inspired the name.



In a popular infographic that goes around the internet, in this part of the Deep Web begin with speculations about the use of a tool called "Closed Shell Systems" (closed systems), in addition to another called "Polymeric Falcighol Derivation" (Falcighol Polymer Derivation) ).



All this, however, would be fictitious names and tools, created from nothing. Only some curious new users end up believing them. Leaving the jokes aside, however, it is well known that several websites need programs and settings much more advanced than Tor to be accessed.



These sites are what would form the so-called Marianas Web.




This Engadget article dismisses it as a myth:




Mariana's Web is certainly the definition of spooky BS, especially because it's technically impossible; it's supposedly only accessible through quantum computers -- which currently only exist in science fiction.



Yet to the chagrin of people who love facts, it's slowly starting to be reported as fact.




A question on Quora has received conflicting answers.



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    It's going to be very difficult to provide any answer other than "we don't know"... to say "No there's not" would require proving a negative! I think the question as worded "Is there any evidence..." is much more answerable.
    – elliot svensson
    20 mins ago










  • I feel like this is going to be like trying to prove that aliens aren't being stored in Area 51. If there's no evidence for something that's supposedly real and well hidden, people will just use that lack of evidence as proof that it's real and well hidden.
    – Giter
    4 mins ago













  • 1




    It's going to be very difficult to provide any answer other than "we don't know"... to say "No there's not" would require proving a negative! I think the question as worded "Is there any evidence..." is much more answerable.
    – elliot svensson
    20 mins ago










  • I feel like this is going to be like trying to prove that aliens aren't being stored in Area 51. If there's no evidence for something that's supposedly real and well hidden, people will just use that lack of evidence as proof that it's real and well hidden.
    – Giter
    4 mins ago








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It's going to be very difficult to provide any answer other than "we don't know"... to say "No there's not" would require proving a negative! I think the question as worded "Is there any evidence..." is much more answerable.
– elliot svensson
20 mins ago




It's going to be very difficult to provide any answer other than "we don't know"... to say "No there's not" would require proving a negative! I think the question as worded "Is there any evidence..." is much more answerable.
– elliot svensson
20 mins ago












I feel like this is going to be like trying to prove that aliens aren't being stored in Area 51. If there's no evidence for something that's supposedly real and well hidden, people will just use that lack of evidence as proof that it's real and well hidden.
– Giter
4 mins ago





I feel like this is going to be like trying to prove that aliens aren't being stored in Area 51. If there's no evidence for something that's supposedly real and well hidden, people will just use that lack of evidence as proof that it's real and well hidden.
– Giter
4 mins ago











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NO, it's a 4chan urban legend



"Marianas web" is an expression originating from an infographic first published on 4chan in 2011-early 2012 that attempted to provide a classification of the deep web architecture.



According to this infographic, the web is divided in 5 layers, each more difficult to access, and the deepest is supposed to be "Marianas web"



First of all, it should be noted that the layers chosen are extremely arbitrary, and by no mean is that classification backed by any relevant authorities.



Then, reading the description of the 5th layer shows you need "Polymeric falcighol derivation", described as such :




Shit… I don't really know *****. All I know is that you need to solve quantum mechanics in order to view this on even the normal web, let alone closed servers. Quantum Computation exists, and the government powers have them. So be careful what you do here.




In addition to the fact that the whole "Polymeric falcighol derivation" term is purely made up, Quantum Computing is a very experimental field with no real-world application as of now (let alone in 2012). I believe the existence of "Marianas Web" can thus be dismissed.




According to RationalWiki, the graph was expanded in 2014 where three new levels were added. I'll leave it to you to decide whether those are credible or not.






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    How do you know if was first published on 4chan? How do you know "Polymeric falcighol derivation" is purely made up? I don't see how this is a stronger answer than the refutations the OP has already cited.
    – Oddthinking♦
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  • @Oddthinking, the onus is one someone to prove that those things exist, not on anybody else to disprove them. The latter is quite impossible. This is a common scheme with such theories - they are not easily amenable to the scientific method of proof or disproof. Hence, as long as there are no significant details that actually do point to their existence (and no, 4chan topics or Quora questions, or even Stackexchange answers are not significant for that).
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NO, it's a 4chan urban legend



"Marianas web" is an expression originating from an infographic first published on 4chan in 2011-early 2012 that attempted to provide a classification of the deep web architecture.



According to this infographic, the web is divided in 5 layers, each more difficult to access, and the deepest is supposed to be "Marianas web"



First of all, it should be noted that the layers chosen are extremely arbitrary, and by no mean is that classification backed by any relevant authorities.



Then, reading the description of the 5th layer shows you need "Polymeric falcighol derivation", described as such :




Shit… I don't really know *****. All I know is that you need to solve quantum mechanics in order to view this on even the normal web, let alone closed servers. Quantum Computation exists, and the government powers have them. So be careful what you do here.




In addition to the fact that the whole "Polymeric falcighol derivation" term is purely made up, Quantum Computing is a very experimental field with no real-world application as of now (let alone in 2012). I believe the existence of "Marianas Web" can thus be dismissed.




According to RationalWiki, the graph was expanded in 2014 where three new levels were added. I'll leave it to you to decide whether those are credible or not.






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    How do you know if was first published on 4chan? How do you know "Polymeric falcighol derivation" is purely made up? I don't see how this is a stronger answer than the refutations the OP has already cited.
    – Oddthinking♦
    39 mins ago










  • @Oddthinking, the onus is one someone to prove that those things exist, not on anybody else to disprove them. The latter is quite impossible. This is a common scheme with such theories - they are not easily amenable to the scientific method of proof or disproof. Hence, as long as there are no significant details that actually do point to their existence (and no, 4chan topics or Quora questions, or even Stackexchange answers are not significant for that).
    – AnoE
    2 mins ago















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NO, it's a 4chan urban legend



"Marianas web" is an expression originating from an infographic first published on 4chan in 2011-early 2012 that attempted to provide a classification of the deep web architecture.



According to this infographic, the web is divided in 5 layers, each more difficult to access, and the deepest is supposed to be "Marianas web"



First of all, it should be noted that the layers chosen are extremely arbitrary, and by no mean is that classification backed by any relevant authorities.



Then, reading the description of the 5th layer shows you need "Polymeric falcighol derivation", described as such :




Shit… I don't really know *****. All I know is that you need to solve quantum mechanics in order to view this on even the normal web, let alone closed servers. Quantum Computation exists, and the government powers have them. So be careful what you do here.




In addition to the fact that the whole "Polymeric falcighol derivation" term is purely made up, Quantum Computing is a very experimental field with no real-world application as of now (let alone in 2012). I believe the existence of "Marianas Web" can thus be dismissed.




According to RationalWiki, the graph was expanded in 2014 where three new levels were added. I'll leave it to you to decide whether those are credible or not.






share|improve this answer













Some of the information contained in this post requires additional references. Please edit to add citations to reliable sources that support the assertions made here. Unsourced material may be disputed or deleted.









  • 1




    How do you know if was first published on 4chan? How do you know "Polymeric falcighol derivation" is purely made up? I don't see how this is a stronger answer than the refutations the OP has already cited.
    – Oddthinking♦
    39 mins ago










  • @Oddthinking, the onus is one someone to prove that those things exist, not on anybody else to disprove them. The latter is quite impossible. This is a common scheme with such theories - they are not easily amenable to the scientific method of proof or disproof. Hence, as long as there are no significant details that actually do point to their existence (and no, 4chan topics or Quora questions, or even Stackexchange answers are not significant for that).
    – AnoE
    2 mins ago













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NO, it's a 4chan urban legend



"Marianas web" is an expression originating from an infographic first published on 4chan in 2011-early 2012 that attempted to provide a classification of the deep web architecture.



According to this infographic, the web is divided in 5 layers, each more difficult to access, and the deepest is supposed to be "Marianas web"



First of all, it should be noted that the layers chosen are extremely arbitrary, and by no mean is that classification backed by any relevant authorities.



Then, reading the description of the 5th layer shows you need "Polymeric falcighol derivation", described as such :




Shit… I don't really know *****. All I know is that you need to solve quantum mechanics in order to view this on even the normal web, let alone closed servers. Quantum Computation exists, and the government powers have them. So be careful what you do here.




In addition to the fact that the whole "Polymeric falcighol derivation" term is purely made up, Quantum Computing is a very experimental field with no real-world application as of now (let alone in 2012). I believe the existence of "Marianas Web" can thus be dismissed.




According to RationalWiki, the graph was expanded in 2014 where three new levels were added. I'll leave it to you to decide whether those are credible or not.






share|improve this answer














NO, it's a 4chan urban legend



"Marianas web" is an expression originating from an infographic first published on 4chan in 2011-early 2012 that attempted to provide a classification of the deep web architecture.



According to this infographic, the web is divided in 5 layers, each more difficult to access, and the deepest is supposed to be "Marianas web"



First of all, it should be noted that the layers chosen are extremely arbitrary, and by no mean is that classification backed by any relevant authorities.



Then, reading the description of the 5th layer shows you need "Polymeric falcighol derivation", described as such :




Shit… I don't really know *****. All I know is that you need to solve quantum mechanics in order to view this on even the normal web, let alone closed servers. Quantum Computation exists, and the government powers have them. So be careful what you do here.




In addition to the fact that the whole "Polymeric falcighol derivation" term is purely made up, Quantum Computing is a very experimental field with no real-world application as of now (let alone in 2012). I believe the existence of "Marianas Web" can thus be dismissed.




According to RationalWiki, the graph was expanded in 2014 where three new levels were added. I'll leave it to you to decide whether those are credible or not.







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    How do you know if was first published on 4chan? How do you know "Polymeric falcighol derivation" is purely made up? I don't see how this is a stronger answer than the refutations the OP has already cited.
    – Oddthinking♦
    39 mins ago










  • @Oddthinking, the onus is one someone to prove that those things exist, not on anybody else to disprove them. The latter is quite impossible. This is a common scheme with such theories - they are not easily amenable to the scientific method of proof or disproof. Hence, as long as there are no significant details that actually do point to their existence (and no, 4chan topics or Quora questions, or even Stackexchange answers are not significant for that).
    – AnoE
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    How do you know if was first published on 4chan? How do you know "Polymeric falcighol derivation" is purely made up? I don't see how this is a stronger answer than the refutations the OP has already cited.
    – Oddthinking♦
    39 mins ago










  • @Oddthinking, the onus is one someone to prove that those things exist, not on anybody else to disprove them. The latter is quite impossible. This is a common scheme with such theories - they are not easily amenable to the scientific method of proof or disproof. Hence, as long as there are no significant details that actually do point to their existence (and no, 4chan topics or Quora questions, or even Stackexchange answers are not significant for that).
    – AnoE
    2 mins ago








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How do you know if was first published on 4chan? How do you know "Polymeric falcighol derivation" is purely made up? I don't see how this is a stronger answer than the refutations the OP has already cited.
– Oddthinking♦
39 mins ago




How do you know if was first published on 4chan? How do you know "Polymeric falcighol derivation" is purely made up? I don't see how this is a stronger answer than the refutations the OP has already cited.
– Oddthinking♦
39 mins ago












@Oddthinking, the onus is one someone to prove that those things exist, not on anybody else to disprove them. The latter is quite impossible. This is a common scheme with such theories - they are not easily amenable to the scientific method of proof or disproof. Hence, as long as there are no significant details that actually do point to their existence (and no, 4chan topics or Quora questions, or even Stackexchange answers are not significant for that).
– AnoE
2 mins ago





@Oddthinking, the onus is one someone to prove that those things exist, not on anybody else to disprove them. The latter is quite impossible. This is a common scheme with such theories - they are not easily amenable to the scientific method of proof or disproof. Hence, as long as there are no significant details that actually do point to their existence (and no, 4chan topics or Quora questions, or even Stackexchange answers are not significant for that).
– AnoE
2 mins ago



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