Is it possible to destroy a soul?
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Is there any method for a creature to destroy a soul, such that it is utterly wiped from the multiverse? No afterlife, no wall of the faithless etc etc
I was thinking about the nature of the multiverse and afterlives and it occurred to me that having an eternal soul is possible one of the worst fates possible.
When gods die what happens to souls that exist in their heavens, hells, planes etc?
I guess their either swooped up by whichever god killed them, left to rot in the corpse of a dead deity or float around the astral sea until they eventually reach the fugue plane and join the wall / go insane.
So one could probably say there is a good chance that every soul that ever lived will eventually be abandoned / end up on the wall. And likely in between that time their souls will be juggled around by random gods being put in whatever heaven or hells in between.
If my character realised such an eventuality, or at least believed in it, what method could they take to ensure the destruction of their soul?
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Is there any method for a creature to destroy a soul, such that it is utterly wiped from the multiverse? No afterlife, no wall of the faithless etc etc
I was thinking about the nature of the multiverse and afterlives and it occurred to me that having an eternal soul is possible one of the worst fates possible.
When gods die what happens to souls that exist in their heavens, hells, planes etc?
I guess their either swooped up by whichever god killed them, left to rot in the corpse of a dead deity or float around the astral sea until they eventually reach the fugue plane and join the wall / go insane.
So one could probably say there is a good chance that every soul that ever lived will eventually be abandoned / end up on the wall. And likely in between that time their souls will be juggled around by random gods being put in whatever heaven or hells in between.
If my character realised such an eventuality, or at least believed in it, what method could they take to ensure the destruction of their soul?
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Is there any method for a creature to destroy a soul, such that it is utterly wiped from the multiverse? No afterlife, no wall of the faithless etc etc
I was thinking about the nature of the multiverse and afterlives and it occurred to me that having an eternal soul is possible one of the worst fates possible.
When gods die what happens to souls that exist in their heavens, hells, planes etc?
I guess their either swooped up by whichever god killed them, left to rot in the corpse of a dead deity or float around the astral sea until they eventually reach the fugue plane and join the wall / go insane.
So one could probably say there is a good chance that every soul that ever lived will eventually be abandoned / end up on the wall. And likely in between that time their souls will be juggled around by random gods being put in whatever heaven or hells in between.
If my character realised such an eventuality, or at least believed in it, what method could they take to ensure the destruction of their soul?
dnd-5e forgotten-realms soul
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Is there any method for a creature to destroy a soul, such that it is utterly wiped from the multiverse? No afterlife, no wall of the faithless etc etc
I was thinking about the nature of the multiverse and afterlives and it occurred to me that having an eternal soul is possible one of the worst fates possible.
When gods die what happens to souls that exist in their heavens, hells, planes etc?
I guess their either swooped up by whichever god killed them, left to rot in the corpse of a dead deity or float around the astral sea until they eventually reach the fugue plane and join the wall / go insane.
So one could probably say there is a good chance that every soul that ever lived will eventually be abandoned / end up on the wall. And likely in between that time their souls will be juggled around by random gods being put in whatever heaven or hells in between.
If my character realised such an eventuality, or at least believed in it, what method could they take to ensure the destruction of their soul?
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Ask a lich if (s)he'll consume your soul for you
The section on the lich in the Monster Manual (p. 203) states:
Soul Sacrifices. A lich must periodically feed souls to its phylactery to sustain the magic preserving its body and consciousness. It does this using the imprisonment spell. Instead of choosing one of the normal options of the spell, the lich uses the spell to magically trap the targetâÂÂs body and soul inside its phylactery. [...] A creature imprisoned in the phylactery for 24 hours is consumed and destroyed utterly, whereupon nothing short of divine intervention can restore it to life.
While Divine Intervention could still save you, I'm not sure you'll find an option that circumvents Divine Intervention other than Divine Intervention itself or wish (both below).
The typical options
The 9th level wish spell can do almost anything with GM permission:
You might be able to achieve something beyond the scope of the above examples. State your wish to the DM as precisely as possible. The DM has great latitude in ruling what occurs in such an instance, the greater the wish, the greater the likelihood that something goes wrong.
The cleric's Divine Intervention feature might work as well:
Imploring your deity's aid requires you to use your action. Describe the assistance you seek, and roll percentile dice. If you roll a number equal to or lower than your cleric level, your deity intervenes. The DM chooses the nature of the intervention
alt: Get eaten by a Barghest. They normally only eat Goblins, but they destroy souls, too.
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@guildsbounty Cast Alter Self to look a little tastier for that Barghest, or get somebody to Polymorph you if you're not a caster yourself
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Ask a lich if (s)he'll consume your soul for you
The section on the lich in the Monster Manual (p. 203) states:
Soul Sacrifices. A lich must periodically feed souls to its phylactery to sustain the magic preserving its body and consciousness. It does this using the imprisonment spell. Instead of choosing one of the normal options of the spell, the lich uses the spell to magically trap the targetâÂÂs body and soul inside its phylactery. [...] A creature imprisoned in the phylactery for 24 hours is consumed and destroyed utterly, whereupon nothing short of divine intervention can restore it to life.
While Divine Intervention could still save you, I'm not sure you'll find an option that circumvents Divine Intervention other than Divine Intervention itself or wish (both below).
The typical options
The 9th level wish spell can do almost anything with GM permission:
You might be able to achieve something beyond the scope of the above examples. State your wish to the DM as precisely as possible. The DM has great latitude in ruling what occurs in such an instance, the greater the wish, the greater the likelihood that something goes wrong.
The cleric's Divine Intervention feature might work as well:
Imploring your deity's aid requires you to use your action. Describe the assistance you seek, and roll percentile dice. If you roll a number equal to or lower than your cleric level, your deity intervenes. The DM chooses the nature of the intervention
alt: Get eaten by a Barghest. They normally only eat Goblins, but they destroy souls, too.
â guildsbounty
28 mins ago
1
@guildsbounty Cast Alter Self to look a little tastier for that Barghest, or get somebody to Polymorph you if you're not a caster yourself
â Punintended
25 mins ago
add a comment |Â
up vote
6
down vote
Ask a lich if (s)he'll consume your soul for you
The section on the lich in the Monster Manual (p. 203) states:
Soul Sacrifices. A lich must periodically feed souls to its phylactery to sustain the magic preserving its body and consciousness. It does this using the imprisonment spell. Instead of choosing one of the normal options of the spell, the lich uses the spell to magically trap the targetâÂÂs body and soul inside its phylactery. [...] A creature imprisoned in the phylactery for 24 hours is consumed and destroyed utterly, whereupon nothing short of divine intervention can restore it to life.
While Divine Intervention could still save you, I'm not sure you'll find an option that circumvents Divine Intervention other than Divine Intervention itself or wish (both below).
The typical options
The 9th level wish spell can do almost anything with GM permission:
You might be able to achieve something beyond the scope of the above examples. State your wish to the DM as precisely as possible. The DM has great latitude in ruling what occurs in such an instance, the greater the wish, the greater the likelihood that something goes wrong.
The cleric's Divine Intervention feature might work as well:
Imploring your deity's aid requires you to use your action. Describe the assistance you seek, and roll percentile dice. If you roll a number equal to or lower than your cleric level, your deity intervenes. The DM chooses the nature of the intervention
alt: Get eaten by a Barghest. They normally only eat Goblins, but they destroy souls, too.
â guildsbounty
28 mins ago
1
@guildsbounty Cast Alter Self to look a little tastier for that Barghest, or get somebody to Polymorph you if you're not a caster yourself
â Punintended
25 mins ago
add a comment |Â
up vote
6
down vote
up vote
6
down vote
Ask a lich if (s)he'll consume your soul for you
The section on the lich in the Monster Manual (p. 203) states:
Soul Sacrifices. A lich must periodically feed souls to its phylactery to sustain the magic preserving its body and consciousness. It does this using the imprisonment spell. Instead of choosing one of the normal options of the spell, the lich uses the spell to magically trap the targetâÂÂs body and soul inside its phylactery. [...] A creature imprisoned in the phylactery for 24 hours is consumed and destroyed utterly, whereupon nothing short of divine intervention can restore it to life.
While Divine Intervention could still save you, I'm not sure you'll find an option that circumvents Divine Intervention other than Divine Intervention itself or wish (both below).
The typical options
The 9th level wish spell can do almost anything with GM permission:
You might be able to achieve something beyond the scope of the above examples. State your wish to the DM as precisely as possible. The DM has great latitude in ruling what occurs in such an instance, the greater the wish, the greater the likelihood that something goes wrong.
The cleric's Divine Intervention feature might work as well:
Imploring your deity's aid requires you to use your action. Describe the assistance you seek, and roll percentile dice. If you roll a number equal to or lower than your cleric level, your deity intervenes. The DM chooses the nature of the intervention
Ask a lich if (s)he'll consume your soul for you
The section on the lich in the Monster Manual (p. 203) states:
Soul Sacrifices. A lich must periodically feed souls to its phylactery to sustain the magic preserving its body and consciousness. It does this using the imprisonment spell. Instead of choosing one of the normal options of the spell, the lich uses the spell to magically trap the targetâÂÂs body and soul inside its phylactery. [...] A creature imprisoned in the phylactery for 24 hours is consumed and destroyed utterly, whereupon nothing short of divine intervention can restore it to life.
While Divine Intervention could still save you, I'm not sure you'll find an option that circumvents Divine Intervention other than Divine Intervention itself or wish (both below).
The typical options
The 9th level wish spell can do almost anything with GM permission:
You might be able to achieve something beyond the scope of the above examples. State your wish to the DM as precisely as possible. The DM has great latitude in ruling what occurs in such an instance, the greater the wish, the greater the likelihood that something goes wrong.
The cleric's Divine Intervention feature might work as well:
Imploring your deity's aid requires you to use your action. Describe the assistance you seek, and roll percentile dice. If you roll a number equal to or lower than your cleric level, your deity intervenes. The DM chooses the nature of the intervention
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alt: Get eaten by a Barghest. They normally only eat Goblins, but they destroy souls, too.
â guildsbounty
28 mins ago
1
@guildsbounty Cast Alter Self to look a little tastier for that Barghest, or get somebody to Polymorph you if you're not a caster yourself
â Punintended
25 mins ago
add a comment |Â
alt: Get eaten by a Barghest. They normally only eat Goblins, but they destroy souls, too.
â guildsbounty
28 mins ago
1
@guildsbounty Cast Alter Self to look a little tastier for that Barghest, or get somebody to Polymorph you if you're not a caster yourself
â Punintended
25 mins ago
alt: Get eaten by a Barghest. They normally only eat Goblins, but they destroy souls, too.
â guildsbounty
28 mins ago
alt: Get eaten by a Barghest. They normally only eat Goblins, but they destroy souls, too.
â guildsbounty
28 mins ago
1
1
@guildsbounty Cast Alter Self to look a little tastier for that Barghest, or get somebody to Polymorph you if you're not a caster yourself
â Punintended
25 mins ago
@guildsbounty Cast Alter Self to look a little tastier for that Barghest, or get somebody to Polymorph you if you're not a caster yourself
â Punintended
25 mins ago
add a comment |Â
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Will you accept answers that contain spoilers to published adventures?
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