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Raining animals is a rare meteorological phenomenon in which flightless animals fall from the sky. Such occurrences have been reported in many countries throughout history. One hypothesis is that tornadic waterspouts sometimes pick up creatures such as fish or frogs, and carry them for up to several miles.
Imagine a world where raining animals are a regular occurrence - say, most days on the tropical rainy season. Could a marine apex predator adapt to such a meteorological feature in order to take advantage of it, in terms of mid-air feeding? If so, what adaptations would it need, and what would it look like?
I don't expect that a shark which evolved for this would necessarily still look exactly like a real world shark, so a sharky final appearance is not a requirement for answers. Other marine predators such as orcas, barracudas and mantas are also valid candidates for this niche, and don't need to look exactly like the ones from pur world's after the necessary evolutiomary adaptations.
Being directly threatening to humans is also not required (I think the tornadoes are already enough of a menace).
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Raining animals is a rare meteorological phenomenon in which flightless animals fall from the sky. Such occurrences have been reported in many countries throughout history. One hypothesis is that tornadic waterspouts sometimes pick up creatures such as fish or frogs, and carry them for up to several miles.
Imagine a world where raining animals are a regular occurrence - say, most days on the tropical rainy season. Could a marine apex predator adapt to such a meteorological feature in order to take advantage of it, in terms of mid-air feeding? If so, what adaptations would it need, and what would it look like?
I don't expect that a shark which evolved for this would necessarily still look exactly like a real world shark, so a sharky final appearance is not a requirement for answers. Other marine predators such as orcas, barracudas and mantas are also valid candidates for this niche, and don't need to look exactly like the ones from pur world's after the necessary evolutiomary adaptations.
Being directly threatening to humans is also not required (I think the tornadoes are already enough of a menace).
science-based reality-check biology creature-design
asked 2 hours ago
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This might be the good-dumbest question I've seen on the site.
– kingledion
2 hours ago
How do you imagine your world ? similar to Earth or more watery ? I don't think a marine predator falling more than a few meters from water could survive to do it again...
– Don Pablo
2 hours ago
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@DonPablo Earth-like. Even on Earth waters cover around 3/4 of the planet's surface, so the fish should be ok in most cases.
– Renan
2 hours ago
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From a science based perspective, nothing would adapt to live in a shark nado unless the shark nado was a critical part of its life. I see lots of problems with the shark nado. Like being lifted into the air then falling (onto the ground, surface tension of water?). Shark nado seems like a one way trip ending in death, so nothing would evolve to be part of it.
– Tyler S. Loeper
2 hours ago
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Raining animals is a rare meteorological phenomenon in which flightless animals fall from the sky. Such occurrences have been reported in many countries throughout history. One hypothesis is that tornadic waterspouts sometimes pick up creatures such as fish or frogs, and carry them for up to several miles.
Imagine a world where raining animals are a regular occurrence - say, most days on the tropical rainy season. Could a marine apex predator adapt to such a meteorological feature in order to take advantage of it, in terms of mid-air feeding? If so, what adaptations would it need, and what would it look like?
I don't expect that a shark which evolved for this would necessarily still look exactly like a real world shark, so a sharky final appearance is not a requirement for answers. Other marine predators such as orcas, barracudas and mantas are also valid candidates for this niche, and don't need to look exactly like the ones from pur world's after the necessary evolutiomary adaptations.
Being directly threatening to humans is also not required (I think the tornadoes are already enough of a menace).
science-based reality-check biology creature-design
asked 2 hours ago
Renan
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Raining animals is a rare meteorological phenomenon in which flightless animals fall from the sky. Such occurrences have been reported in many countries throughout history. One hypothesis is that tornadic waterspouts sometimes pick up creatures such as fish or frogs, and carry them for up to several miles.
Imagine a world where raining animals are a regular occurrence - say, most days on the tropical rainy season. Could a marine apex predator adapt to such a meteorological feature in order to take advantage of it, in terms of mid-air feeding? If so, what adaptations would it need, and what would it look like?
I don't expect that a shark which evolved for this would necessarily still look exactly like a real world shark, so a sharky final appearance is not a requirement for answers. Other marine predators such as orcas, barracudas and mantas are also valid candidates for this niche, and don't need to look exactly like the ones from pur world's after the necessary evolutiomary adaptations.
Being directly threatening to humans is also not required (I think the tornadoes are already enough of a menace).
science-based reality-check biology creature-design
science-based reality-check biology creature-design
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This might be the good-dumbest question I've seen on the site.
– kingledion
2 hours ago
How do you imagine your world ? similar to Earth or more watery ? I don't think a marine predator falling more than a few meters from water could survive to do it again...
– Don Pablo
2 hours ago
1
@DonPablo Earth-like. Even on Earth waters cover around 3/4 of the planet's surface, so the fish should be ok in most cases.
– Renan
2 hours ago
2
From a science based perspective, nothing would adapt to live in a shark nado unless the shark nado was a critical part of its life. I see lots of problems with the shark nado. Like being lifted into the air then falling (onto the ground, surface tension of water?). Shark nado seems like a one way trip ending in death, so nothing would evolve to be part of it.
– Tyler S. Loeper
2 hours ago
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7
This might be the good-dumbest question I've seen on the site.
– kingledion
2 hours ago
How do you imagine your world ? similar to Earth or more watery ? I don't think a marine predator falling more than a few meters from water could survive to do it again...
– Don Pablo
2 hours ago
1
@DonPablo Earth-like. Even on Earth waters cover around 3/4 of the planet's surface, so the fish should be ok in most cases.
– Renan
2 hours ago
2
From a science based perspective, nothing would adapt to live in a shark nado unless the shark nado was a critical part of its life. I see lots of problems with the shark nado. Like being lifted into the air then falling (onto the ground, surface tension of water?). Shark nado seems like a one way trip ending in death, so nothing would evolve to be part of it.
– Tyler S. Loeper
2 hours ago
7
7
This might be the good-dumbest question I've seen on the site.
– kingledion
2 hours ago
This might be the good-dumbest question I've seen on the site.
– kingledion
2 hours ago
How do you imagine your world ? similar to Earth or more watery ? I don't think a marine predator falling more than a few meters from water could survive to do it again...
– Don Pablo
2 hours ago
How do you imagine your world ? similar to Earth or more watery ? I don't think a marine predator falling more than a few meters from water could survive to do it again...
– Don Pablo
2 hours ago
1
1
@DonPablo Earth-like. Even on Earth waters cover around 3/4 of the planet's surface, so the fish should be ok in most cases.
– Renan
2 hours ago
@DonPablo Earth-like. Even on Earth waters cover around 3/4 of the planet's surface, so the fish should be ok in most cases.
– Renan
2 hours ago
2
2
From a science based perspective, nothing would adapt to live in a shark nado unless the shark nado was a critical part of its life. I see lots of problems with the shark nado. Like being lifted into the air then falling (onto the ground, surface tension of water?). Shark nado seems like a one way trip ending in death, so nothing would evolve to be part of it.
– Tyler S. Loeper
2 hours ago
From a science based perspective, nothing would adapt to live in a shark nado unless the shark nado was a critical part of its life. I see lots of problems with the shark nado. Like being lifted into the air then falling (onto the ground, surface tension of water?). Shark nado seems like a one way trip ending in death, so nothing would evolve to be part of it.
– Tyler S. Loeper
2 hours ago
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If the sharknado has to feed on things suspended in an air stream, it means it has to be able to collect as much as possible in the shortest time as possible.
It would make sense that their mouth evolved into an ibrid of a mist net and the mouth of the basking shark
or the megamouth shark
I assume the mouth would need a more pronounced net structure when fully opened, so that the drag would not blow the sharknado away while attempting to feed, something like a butterfly net.
OT: thanks for the attempt of putting some legitimization to the entire sharknado thing.
answered 2 hours ago
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No adaptations necessary
When a waterspout delivers a flying buffet, the apex predator sharks wait at the bottom for the good stuff to come to them. By jumping out of the water, they prey on animals in the air that have no opportunity to flee. Water based propulsion systems don't work in the air, so the food is going to go where gravity directs it, which is hopefully into a shark's mouth.
Actually, they probably need different eyes
If you are going to lurk under water, and then jump up to catch a helpless falling meal, you need to
a. See into the air
b. Have good distance vision
Fish eyes are generally more convex than land animal eyes, because of the differing focusing properties of water. A jumping shark needs eyes more similar to that of a land animal so it can focus on a falling target tens of meters above the water's surface, while still submerged.
Distance vision is a function of binocular vision. A jumping shark will want its eyes closer together in its head.
answered 2 hours ago
kingledion
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Yeah but they can't fly up a tornado.
– Renan
2 hours ago
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@Renan Okay, I made it a real answer.
– kingledion
2 hours ago
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Falling, yes, but falling with style
When falling, if you want to catch preys, You need mainly 2 things:
- Something to catch preys: arms, nets, big mouth, tail... you name it.
- Something to steer your fall: Falling straight minimize the probability to encounter a prey.
Some animals can decide where they will head to when falling. Flying squirrels, humans with wingsuits, or... Snakes.
Astonishingly, some snakes can glide through air. Namely the Chrysopelea (you can see it here). Snakes are also good at being underwater, so it could be totally possible to have a mix between a gliding snake and a marine one.
BUT
Snakes are good at catching things. Well, at catching ONE thing at a time. But we want our falling predator to be able to seize all the preys in his reach.
What looks like a snake if the snake had multiple arms ?
An OCTOPUS
source
Moreover, octopuses are crazy good at controlling their bodies. With a little training and once it conquer its fear of heights, it could glide through the sky, following falling, frightened, desperate fishes, whom the last vision would be a terrifying cephalopod twirling toward them.
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3 Answers
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active
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active
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If the sharknado has to feed on things suspended in an air stream, it means it has to be able to collect as much as possible in the shortest time as possible.
It would make sense that their mouth evolved into an ibrid of a mist net and the mouth of the basking shark
or the megamouth shark
I assume the mouth would need a more pronounced net structure when fully opened, so that the drag would not blow the sharknado away while attempting to feed, something like a butterfly net.
OT: thanks for the attempt of putting some legitimization to the entire sharknado thing.
answered 2 hours ago
L.Dutch♦
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up vote
3
down vote
If the sharknado has to feed on things suspended in an air stream, it means it has to be able to collect as much as possible in the shortest time as possible.
It would make sense that their mouth evolved into an ibrid of a mist net and the mouth of the basking shark
or the megamouth shark
I assume the mouth would need a more pronounced net structure when fully opened, so that the drag would not blow the sharknado away while attempting to feed, something like a butterfly net.
OT: thanks for the attempt of putting some legitimization to the entire sharknado thing.
answered 2 hours ago
L.Dutch♦
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up vote
3
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up vote
3
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If the sharknado has to feed on things suspended in an air stream, it means it has to be able to collect as much as possible in the shortest time as possible.
It would make sense that their mouth evolved into an ibrid of a mist net and the mouth of the basking shark
or the megamouth shark
I assume the mouth would need a more pronounced net structure when fully opened, so that the drag would not blow the sharknado away while attempting to feed, something like a butterfly net.
OT: thanks for the attempt of putting some legitimization to the entire sharknado thing.
answered 2 hours ago
L.Dutch♦
63.5k18150300
If the sharknado has to feed on things suspended in an air stream, it means it has to be able to collect as much as possible in the shortest time as possible.
It would make sense that their mouth evolved into an ibrid of a mist net and the mouth of the basking shark
or the megamouth shark
I assume the mouth would need a more pronounced net structure when fully opened, so that the drag would not blow the sharknado away while attempting to feed, something like a butterfly net.
OT: thanks for the attempt of putting some legitimization to the entire sharknado thing.
answered 2 hours ago
L.Dutch♦
63.5k18150300
answered 2 hours ago
L.Dutch♦
63.5k18150300
answered 2 hours ago
L.Dutch♦
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answered 2 hours ago
L.Dutch♦
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63.5k18150300
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No adaptations necessary
When a waterspout delivers a flying buffet, the apex predator sharks wait at the bottom for the good stuff to come to them. By jumping out of the water, they prey on animals in the air that have no opportunity to flee. Water based propulsion systems don't work in the air, so the food is going to go where gravity directs it, which is hopefully into a shark's mouth.
Actually, they probably need different eyes
If you are going to lurk under water, and then jump up to catch a helpless falling meal, you need to
a. See into the air
b. Have good distance vision
Fish eyes are generally more convex than land animal eyes, because of the differing focusing properties of water. A jumping shark needs eyes more similar to that of a land animal so it can focus on a falling target tens of meters above the water's surface, while still submerged.
Distance vision is a function of binocular vision. A jumping shark will want its eyes closer together in its head.
answered 2 hours ago
kingledion
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Yeah but they can't fly up a tornado.
– Renan
2 hours ago
1
@Renan Okay, I made it a real answer.
– kingledion
2 hours ago
add a comment |Â
up vote
2
down vote
No adaptations necessary
When a waterspout delivers a flying buffet, the apex predator sharks wait at the bottom for the good stuff to come to them. By jumping out of the water, they prey on animals in the air that have no opportunity to flee. Water based propulsion systems don't work in the air, so the food is going to go where gravity directs it, which is hopefully into a shark's mouth.
Actually, they probably need different eyes
If you are going to lurk under water, and then jump up to catch a helpless falling meal, you need to
a. See into the air
b. Have good distance vision
Fish eyes are generally more convex than land animal eyes, because of the differing focusing properties of water. A jumping shark needs eyes more similar to that of a land animal so it can focus on a falling target tens of meters above the water's surface, while still submerged.
Distance vision is a function of binocular vision. A jumping shark will want its eyes closer together in its head.
answered 2 hours ago
kingledion
66.2k22217378
1
Yeah but they can't fly up a tornado.
– Renan
2 hours ago
1
@Renan Okay, I made it a real answer.
– kingledion
2 hours ago
add a comment |Â
up vote
2
down vote
up vote
2
down vote
No adaptations necessary
When a waterspout delivers a flying buffet, the apex predator sharks wait at the bottom for the good stuff to come to them. By jumping out of the water, they prey on animals in the air that have no opportunity to flee. Water based propulsion systems don't work in the air, so the food is going to go where gravity directs it, which is hopefully into a shark's mouth.
Actually, they probably need different eyes
If you are going to lurk under water, and then jump up to catch a helpless falling meal, you need to
a. See into the air
b. Have good distance vision
Fish eyes are generally more convex than land animal eyes, because of the differing focusing properties of water. A jumping shark needs eyes more similar to that of a land animal so it can focus on a falling target tens of meters above the water's surface, while still submerged.
Distance vision is a function of binocular vision. A jumping shark will want its eyes closer together in its head.
answered 2 hours ago
kingledion
66.2k22217378
No adaptations necessary
When a waterspout delivers a flying buffet, the apex predator sharks wait at the bottom for the good stuff to come to them. By jumping out of the water, they prey on animals in the air that have no opportunity to flee. Water based propulsion systems don't work in the air, so the food is going to go where gravity directs it, which is hopefully into a shark's mouth.
Actually, they probably need different eyes
If you are going to lurk under water, and then jump up to catch a helpless falling meal, you need to
a. See into the air
b. Have good distance vision
Fish eyes are generally more convex than land animal eyes, because of the differing focusing properties of water. A jumping shark needs eyes more similar to that of a land animal so it can focus on a falling target tens of meters above the water's surface, while still submerged.
Distance vision is a function of binocular vision. A jumping shark will want its eyes closer together in its head.
answered 2 hours ago
kingledion
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edited 2 hours ago
answered 2 hours ago
kingledion
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answered 2 hours ago
kingledion
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answered 2 hours ago
kingledion
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Yeah but they can't fly up a tornado.
– Renan
2 hours ago
1
@Renan Okay, I made it a real answer.
– kingledion
2 hours ago
add a comment |Â
1
Yeah but they can't fly up a tornado.
– Renan
2 hours ago
1
@Renan Okay, I made it a real answer.
– kingledion
2 hours ago
1
1
Yeah but they can't fly up a tornado.
– Renan
2 hours ago
Yeah but they can't fly up a tornado.
– Renan
2 hours ago
1
1
@Renan Okay, I made it a real answer.
– kingledion
2 hours ago
@Renan Okay, I made it a real answer.
– kingledion
2 hours ago
add a comment |Â
up vote
0
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Falling, yes, but falling with style
When falling, if you want to catch preys, You need mainly 2 things:
- Something to catch preys: arms, nets, big mouth, tail... you name it.
- Something to steer your fall: Falling straight minimize the probability to encounter a prey.
Some animals can decide where they will head to when falling. Flying squirrels, humans with wingsuits, or... Snakes.
Astonishingly, some snakes can glide through air. Namely the Chrysopelea (you can see it here). Snakes are also good at being underwater, so it could be totally possible to have a mix between a gliding snake and a marine one.
BUT
Snakes are good at catching things. Well, at catching ONE thing at a time. But we want our falling predator to be able to seize all the preys in his reach.
What looks like a snake if the snake had multiple arms ?
An OCTOPUS
source
Moreover, octopuses are crazy good at controlling their bodies. With a little training and once it conquer its fear of heights, it could glide through the sky, following falling, frightened, desperate fishes, whom the last vision would be a terrifying cephalopod twirling toward them.
answered 16 mins ago
Don Pablo
70719
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up vote
0
down vote
Falling, yes, but falling with style
When falling, if you want to catch preys, You need mainly 2 things:
- Something to catch preys: arms, nets, big mouth, tail... you name it.
- Something to steer your fall: Falling straight minimize the probability to encounter a prey.
Some animals can decide where they will head to when falling. Flying squirrels, humans with wingsuits, or... Snakes.
Astonishingly, some snakes can glide through air. Namely the Chrysopelea (you can see it here). Snakes are also good at being underwater, so it could be totally possible to have a mix between a gliding snake and a marine one.
BUT
Snakes are good at catching things. Well, at catching ONE thing at a time. But we want our falling predator to be able to seize all the preys in his reach.
What looks like a snake if the snake had multiple arms ?
An OCTOPUS
source
Moreover, octopuses are crazy good at controlling their bodies. With a little training and once it conquer its fear of heights, it could glide through the sky, following falling, frightened, desperate fishes, whom the last vision would be a terrifying cephalopod twirling toward them.
answered 16 mins ago
Don Pablo
70719
add a comment |Â
up vote
0
down vote
up vote
0
down vote
Falling, yes, but falling with style
When falling, if you want to catch preys, You need mainly 2 things:
- Something to catch preys: arms, nets, big mouth, tail... you name it.
- Something to steer your fall: Falling straight minimize the probability to encounter a prey.
Some animals can decide where they will head to when falling. Flying squirrels, humans with wingsuits, or... Snakes.
Astonishingly, some snakes can glide through air. Namely the Chrysopelea (you can see it here). Snakes are also good at being underwater, so it could be totally possible to have a mix between a gliding snake and a marine one.
BUT
Snakes are good at catching things. Well, at catching ONE thing at a time. But we want our falling predator to be able to seize all the preys in his reach.
What looks like a snake if the snake had multiple arms ?
An OCTOPUS
source
Moreover, octopuses are crazy good at controlling their bodies. With a little training and once it conquer its fear of heights, it could glide through the sky, following falling, frightened, desperate fishes, whom the last vision would be a terrifying cephalopod twirling toward them.
answered 16 mins ago
Don Pablo
70719
Falling, yes, but falling with style
When falling, if you want to catch preys, You need mainly 2 things:
- Something to catch preys: arms, nets, big mouth, tail... you name it.
- Something to steer your fall: Falling straight minimize the probability to encounter a prey.
Some animals can decide where they will head to when falling. Flying squirrels, humans with wingsuits, or... Snakes.
Astonishingly, some snakes can glide through air. Namely the Chrysopelea (you can see it here). Snakes are also good at being underwater, so it could be totally possible to have a mix between a gliding snake and a marine one.
BUT
Snakes are good at catching things. Well, at catching ONE thing at a time. But we want our falling predator to be able to seize all the preys in his reach.
What looks like a snake if the snake had multiple arms ?
An OCTOPUS
source
Moreover, octopuses are crazy good at controlling their bodies. With a little training and once it conquer its fear of heights, it could glide through the sky, following falling, frightened, desperate fishes, whom the last vision would be a terrifying cephalopod twirling toward them.
answered 16 mins ago
Don Pablo
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answered 16 mins ago
Don Pablo
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This might be the good-dumbest question I've seen on the site.
– kingledion
2 hours ago
How do you imagine your world ? similar to Earth or more watery ? I don't think a marine predator falling more than a few meters from water could survive to do it again...
– Don Pablo
2 hours ago
1
@DonPablo Earth-like. Even on Earth waters cover around 3/4 of the planet's surface, so the fish should be ok in most cases.
– Renan
2 hours ago
2
From a science based perspective, nothing would adapt to live in a shark nado unless the shark nado was a critical part of its life. I see lots of problems with the shark nado. Like being lifted into the air then falling (onto the ground, surface tension of water?). Shark nado seems like a one way trip ending in death, so nothing would evolve to be part of it.
– Tyler S. Loeper
2 hours ago