Is movie Deadpool's fourth wall breaking a âmutant powerâ?
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In the first Deadpool movie, Deadpool gains his powers as part of attempting to force a mutation. And he does get a mutation: the incredible healing factor. He also gains the ability to break the fourth wall and recognize he's in a comic book movie some time shortly after the mutation.
However, neither movie is really clear on whether his ability to see and interact with the audience was a literal mutant power, a side effect of him going insane from the therapy, or just a running joke that isn't bound by logic.
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In the first Deadpool movie, Deadpool gains his powers as part of attempting to force a mutation. And he does get a mutation: the incredible healing factor. He also gains the ability to break the fourth wall and recognize he's in a comic book movie some time shortly after the mutation.
However, neither movie is really clear on whether his ability to see and interact with the audience was a literal mutant power, a side effect of him going insane from the therapy, or just a running joke that isn't bound by logic.
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In the first Deadpool movie, Deadpool gains his powers as part of attempting to force a mutation. And he does get a mutation: the incredible healing factor. He also gains the ability to break the fourth wall and recognize he's in a comic book movie some time shortly after the mutation.
However, neither movie is really clear on whether his ability to see and interact with the audience was a literal mutant power, a side effect of him going insane from the therapy, or just a running joke that isn't bound by logic.
deadpool-2016 deadpool-2
In the first Deadpool movie, Deadpool gains his powers as part of attempting to force a mutation. And he does get a mutation: the incredible healing factor. He also gains the ability to break the fourth wall and recognize he's in a comic book movie some time shortly after the mutation.
However, neither movie is really clear on whether his ability to see and interact with the audience was a literal mutant power, a side effect of him going insane from the therapy, or just a running joke that isn't bound by logic.
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After reviewing the script again from the advice of a friend offline, it looks like Wade's 4th wall breaking isn't a power. While he has his collar on, he quips the following while turning and looking directly at the camera:
Fun fact about the Ice Box... though no one's ever seen it, they keep a monster in the basement. Right next to a huge, steaming bowl of foreshadowing.
https://www.springfieldspringfield.co.uk/movie_script.php?movie=deadpool-2
So, even when he's powerless, he can still call out movie tropes and recognize that it's a popcorn flick with an audience.
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It's not a mutation. It's actually a sign of his madness. Deadpool gained his powers through torture1, which mentally broke him.
Not only is he under the "illusion" (in-universe this is seem as a derangement) that he is a fictional character (his frequent 4th-wall breaks)
Ryan Reynolds has told Empire that heâÂÂs insistent on DeadpoolâÂÂs habit of breaking of the fourth wall to carry over from the comics to the big screen. That means, in effect, that Deadpool/Wade Wilson will sometimes address the audience directly, as with Ferris Bueller, say, or the character of Paul in Funny Games.
Source
He also suffers from schizophrenia (voices in his head)2, and while it could be attributed to the excessive amount of pain he undergoes on a regular basis - his reaction to pain and being mutilated over and over again is not one you would expect from a sane person.
1. In Deadpool 1, Ajax explains that the Weapon X program requires the body to undergo increasing amounts of stress in order to trigger the mutation.
2. This is in the comics, but not depicted in the movies. It is possible that this was tied into the 4th wall breaks as talking to the audience as the "voices" in his head
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While you're probably correct,this reads like it's just opinion without any citations.
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Deadpool's breaking the fourth wall is a literary device, not a mutation. The technique goes back a ways. It occurs occasionally in plays (which is where it got its name). The first movie I saw which used it was the 1963 "Tom Jones". The eponymous hero is about to fall into bed with a woman when he pauses, smiles at the camera, then takes off his hat and blocks the camera. There was no suggestion that he had some sort of superpower. It was just a funny way way to provide a discreet fade to black.
You are reading far too much into it. It's just a way to entertain.
EDIT - Come to think of it, it was also used occasionally in horror movies before Tom Jones. At the end of the movie the main character would turn to the camera and tell the audience that the monster is loose in the theater. Again, this was not a sign of a superpower.
1
I don't think you're really getting what the question is asking. Everyone's aware that the concept of 4th-wall breaking itself is a literary device and not a superpower. Noone's saying Ferris Bueller has a superpower for instance. The question is, in the context of Marvel, the character, and the universe the character exists in, is this instance of 4th-wall-breaking ONLY a literary device, or is it ALSO a part of the character's mutant powers?
â Conrad Bennish Jr
3 hours ago
Within the context of Deadpool's world, there is no camera and no moviemaker, so at best his asides and snarky comments are essentially him hallucinating, addressing a non-existent viewer. How this can be viewed as a superpower is beyond me. Or does there exist a reason to believe that the Marvel characters think of themselves as comic book characters? If so, that would seem to cast rather an odd light on their speech, thoughts and actions - they are always playing to the camera, so to speak. And so are presumably aware that they have no self-determination - the writer is God. Pretty weird.
â WhatRoughBeast
53 mins ago
yeah definitely agreed. It's just that the question is very much in-universe and your answer is very much out-of-universe, and on top of that very dismissive of the asker. We ALL KNOW that things are literary devices. Most of the questions here are about them, but from in-universe perspectives. Your comment response to me would actually make a much better answer, IMO.
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3 Answers
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After reviewing the script again from the advice of a friend offline, it looks like Wade's 4th wall breaking isn't a power. While he has his collar on, he quips the following while turning and looking directly at the camera:
Fun fact about the Ice Box... though no one's ever seen it, they keep a monster in the basement. Right next to a huge, steaming bowl of foreshadowing.
https://www.springfieldspringfield.co.uk/movie_script.php?movie=deadpool-2
So, even when he's powerless, he can still call out movie tropes and recognize that it's a popcorn flick with an audience.
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up vote
3
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After reviewing the script again from the advice of a friend offline, it looks like Wade's 4th wall breaking isn't a power. While he has his collar on, he quips the following while turning and looking directly at the camera:
Fun fact about the Ice Box... though no one's ever seen it, they keep a monster in the basement. Right next to a huge, steaming bowl of foreshadowing.
https://www.springfieldspringfield.co.uk/movie_script.php?movie=deadpool-2
So, even when he's powerless, he can still call out movie tropes and recognize that it's a popcorn flick with an audience.
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up vote
3
down vote
up vote
3
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After reviewing the script again from the advice of a friend offline, it looks like Wade's 4th wall breaking isn't a power. While he has his collar on, he quips the following while turning and looking directly at the camera:
Fun fact about the Ice Box... though no one's ever seen it, they keep a monster in the basement. Right next to a huge, steaming bowl of foreshadowing.
https://www.springfieldspringfield.co.uk/movie_script.php?movie=deadpool-2
So, even when he's powerless, he can still call out movie tropes and recognize that it's a popcorn flick with an audience.
After reviewing the script again from the advice of a friend offline, it looks like Wade's 4th wall breaking isn't a power. While he has his collar on, he quips the following while turning and looking directly at the camera:
Fun fact about the Ice Box... though no one's ever seen it, they keep a monster in the basement. Right next to a huge, steaming bowl of foreshadowing.
https://www.springfieldspringfield.co.uk/movie_script.php?movie=deadpool-2
So, even when he's powerless, he can still call out movie tropes and recognize that it's a popcorn flick with an audience.
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It's not a mutation. It's actually a sign of his madness. Deadpool gained his powers through torture1, which mentally broke him.
Not only is he under the "illusion" (in-universe this is seem as a derangement) that he is a fictional character (his frequent 4th-wall breaks)
Ryan Reynolds has told Empire that heâÂÂs insistent on DeadpoolâÂÂs habit of breaking of the fourth wall to carry over from the comics to the big screen. That means, in effect, that Deadpool/Wade Wilson will sometimes address the audience directly, as with Ferris Bueller, say, or the character of Paul in Funny Games.
Source
He also suffers from schizophrenia (voices in his head)2, and while it could be attributed to the excessive amount of pain he undergoes on a regular basis - his reaction to pain and being mutilated over and over again is not one you would expect from a sane person.
1. In Deadpool 1, Ajax explains that the Weapon X program requires the body to undergo increasing amounts of stress in order to trigger the mutation.
2. This is in the comics, but not depicted in the movies. It is possible that this was tied into the 4th wall breaks as talking to the audience as the "voices" in his head
1
While you're probably correct,this reads like it's just opinion without any citations.
â Paul
1 hour ago
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Yes, I'll need to add these
â Ben
1 hour ago
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2
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It's not a mutation. It's actually a sign of his madness. Deadpool gained his powers through torture1, which mentally broke him.
Not only is he under the "illusion" (in-universe this is seem as a derangement) that he is a fictional character (his frequent 4th-wall breaks)
Ryan Reynolds has told Empire that heâÂÂs insistent on DeadpoolâÂÂs habit of breaking of the fourth wall to carry over from the comics to the big screen. That means, in effect, that Deadpool/Wade Wilson will sometimes address the audience directly, as with Ferris Bueller, say, or the character of Paul in Funny Games.
Source
He also suffers from schizophrenia (voices in his head)2, and while it could be attributed to the excessive amount of pain he undergoes on a regular basis - his reaction to pain and being mutilated over and over again is not one you would expect from a sane person.
1. In Deadpool 1, Ajax explains that the Weapon X program requires the body to undergo increasing amounts of stress in order to trigger the mutation.
2. This is in the comics, but not depicted in the movies. It is possible that this was tied into the 4th wall breaks as talking to the audience as the "voices" in his head
1
While you're probably correct,this reads like it's just opinion without any citations.
â Paul
1 hour ago
1
Yes, I'll need to add these
â Ben
1 hour ago
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It's not a mutation. It's actually a sign of his madness. Deadpool gained his powers through torture1, which mentally broke him.
Not only is he under the "illusion" (in-universe this is seem as a derangement) that he is a fictional character (his frequent 4th-wall breaks)
Ryan Reynolds has told Empire that heâÂÂs insistent on DeadpoolâÂÂs habit of breaking of the fourth wall to carry over from the comics to the big screen. That means, in effect, that Deadpool/Wade Wilson will sometimes address the audience directly, as with Ferris Bueller, say, or the character of Paul in Funny Games.
Source
He also suffers from schizophrenia (voices in his head)2, and while it could be attributed to the excessive amount of pain he undergoes on a regular basis - his reaction to pain and being mutilated over and over again is not one you would expect from a sane person.
1. In Deadpool 1, Ajax explains that the Weapon X program requires the body to undergo increasing amounts of stress in order to trigger the mutation.
2. This is in the comics, but not depicted in the movies. It is possible that this was tied into the 4th wall breaks as talking to the audience as the "voices" in his head
It's not a mutation. It's actually a sign of his madness. Deadpool gained his powers through torture1, which mentally broke him.
Not only is he under the "illusion" (in-universe this is seem as a derangement) that he is a fictional character (his frequent 4th-wall breaks)
Ryan Reynolds has told Empire that heâÂÂs insistent on DeadpoolâÂÂs habit of breaking of the fourth wall to carry over from the comics to the big screen. That means, in effect, that Deadpool/Wade Wilson will sometimes address the audience directly, as with Ferris Bueller, say, or the character of Paul in Funny Games.
Source
He also suffers from schizophrenia (voices in his head)2, and while it could be attributed to the excessive amount of pain he undergoes on a regular basis - his reaction to pain and being mutilated over and over again is not one you would expect from a sane person.
1. In Deadpool 1, Ajax explains that the Weapon X program requires the body to undergo increasing amounts of stress in order to trigger the mutation.
2. This is in the comics, but not depicted in the movies. It is possible that this was tied into the 4th wall breaks as talking to the audience as the "voices" in his head
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While you're probably correct,this reads like it's just opinion without any citations.
â Paul
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1
Yes, I'll need to add these
â Ben
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1
While you're probably correct,this reads like it's just opinion without any citations.
â Paul
1 hour ago
1
Yes, I'll need to add these
â Ben
1 hour ago
1
1
While you're probably correct,this reads like it's just opinion without any citations.
â Paul
1 hour ago
While you're probably correct,this reads like it's just opinion without any citations.
â Paul
1 hour ago
1
1
Yes, I'll need to add these
â Ben
1 hour ago
Yes, I'll need to add these
â Ben
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add a comment |Â
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Deadpool's breaking the fourth wall is a literary device, not a mutation. The technique goes back a ways. It occurs occasionally in plays (which is where it got its name). The first movie I saw which used it was the 1963 "Tom Jones". The eponymous hero is about to fall into bed with a woman when he pauses, smiles at the camera, then takes off his hat and blocks the camera. There was no suggestion that he had some sort of superpower. It was just a funny way way to provide a discreet fade to black.
You are reading far too much into it. It's just a way to entertain.
EDIT - Come to think of it, it was also used occasionally in horror movies before Tom Jones. At the end of the movie the main character would turn to the camera and tell the audience that the monster is loose in the theater. Again, this was not a sign of a superpower.
1
I don't think you're really getting what the question is asking. Everyone's aware that the concept of 4th-wall breaking itself is a literary device and not a superpower. Noone's saying Ferris Bueller has a superpower for instance. The question is, in the context of Marvel, the character, and the universe the character exists in, is this instance of 4th-wall-breaking ONLY a literary device, or is it ALSO a part of the character's mutant powers?
â Conrad Bennish Jr
3 hours ago
Within the context of Deadpool's world, there is no camera and no moviemaker, so at best his asides and snarky comments are essentially him hallucinating, addressing a non-existent viewer. How this can be viewed as a superpower is beyond me. Or does there exist a reason to believe that the Marvel characters think of themselves as comic book characters? If so, that would seem to cast rather an odd light on their speech, thoughts and actions - they are always playing to the camera, so to speak. And so are presumably aware that they have no self-determination - the writer is God. Pretty weird.
â WhatRoughBeast
53 mins ago
yeah definitely agreed. It's just that the question is very much in-universe and your answer is very much out-of-universe, and on top of that very dismissive of the asker. We ALL KNOW that things are literary devices. Most of the questions here are about them, but from in-universe perspectives. Your comment response to me would actually make a much better answer, IMO.
â Conrad Bennish Jr
18 mins ago
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up vote
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Deadpool's breaking the fourth wall is a literary device, not a mutation. The technique goes back a ways. It occurs occasionally in plays (which is where it got its name). The first movie I saw which used it was the 1963 "Tom Jones". The eponymous hero is about to fall into bed with a woman when he pauses, smiles at the camera, then takes off his hat and blocks the camera. There was no suggestion that he had some sort of superpower. It was just a funny way way to provide a discreet fade to black.
You are reading far too much into it. It's just a way to entertain.
EDIT - Come to think of it, it was also used occasionally in horror movies before Tom Jones. At the end of the movie the main character would turn to the camera and tell the audience that the monster is loose in the theater. Again, this was not a sign of a superpower.
1
I don't think you're really getting what the question is asking. Everyone's aware that the concept of 4th-wall breaking itself is a literary device and not a superpower. Noone's saying Ferris Bueller has a superpower for instance. The question is, in the context of Marvel, the character, and the universe the character exists in, is this instance of 4th-wall-breaking ONLY a literary device, or is it ALSO a part of the character's mutant powers?
â Conrad Bennish Jr
3 hours ago
Within the context of Deadpool's world, there is no camera and no moviemaker, so at best his asides and snarky comments are essentially him hallucinating, addressing a non-existent viewer. How this can be viewed as a superpower is beyond me. Or does there exist a reason to believe that the Marvel characters think of themselves as comic book characters? If so, that would seem to cast rather an odd light on their speech, thoughts and actions - they are always playing to the camera, so to speak. And so are presumably aware that they have no self-determination - the writer is God. Pretty weird.
â WhatRoughBeast
53 mins ago
yeah definitely agreed. It's just that the question is very much in-universe and your answer is very much out-of-universe, and on top of that very dismissive of the asker. We ALL KNOW that things are literary devices. Most of the questions here are about them, but from in-universe perspectives. Your comment response to me would actually make a much better answer, IMO.
â Conrad Bennish Jr
18 mins ago
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up vote
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Deadpool's breaking the fourth wall is a literary device, not a mutation. The technique goes back a ways. It occurs occasionally in plays (which is where it got its name). The first movie I saw which used it was the 1963 "Tom Jones". The eponymous hero is about to fall into bed with a woman when he pauses, smiles at the camera, then takes off his hat and blocks the camera. There was no suggestion that he had some sort of superpower. It was just a funny way way to provide a discreet fade to black.
You are reading far too much into it. It's just a way to entertain.
EDIT - Come to think of it, it was also used occasionally in horror movies before Tom Jones. At the end of the movie the main character would turn to the camera and tell the audience that the monster is loose in the theater. Again, this was not a sign of a superpower.
Deadpool's breaking the fourth wall is a literary device, not a mutation. The technique goes back a ways. It occurs occasionally in plays (which is where it got its name). The first movie I saw which used it was the 1963 "Tom Jones". The eponymous hero is about to fall into bed with a woman when he pauses, smiles at the camera, then takes off his hat and blocks the camera. There was no suggestion that he had some sort of superpower. It was just a funny way way to provide a discreet fade to black.
You are reading far too much into it. It's just a way to entertain.
EDIT - Come to think of it, it was also used occasionally in horror movies before Tom Jones. At the end of the movie the main character would turn to the camera and tell the audience that the monster is loose in the theater. Again, this was not a sign of a superpower.
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I don't think you're really getting what the question is asking. Everyone's aware that the concept of 4th-wall breaking itself is a literary device and not a superpower. Noone's saying Ferris Bueller has a superpower for instance. The question is, in the context of Marvel, the character, and the universe the character exists in, is this instance of 4th-wall-breaking ONLY a literary device, or is it ALSO a part of the character's mutant powers?
â Conrad Bennish Jr
3 hours ago
Within the context of Deadpool's world, there is no camera and no moviemaker, so at best his asides and snarky comments are essentially him hallucinating, addressing a non-existent viewer. How this can be viewed as a superpower is beyond me. Or does there exist a reason to believe that the Marvel characters think of themselves as comic book characters? If so, that would seem to cast rather an odd light on their speech, thoughts and actions - they are always playing to the camera, so to speak. And so are presumably aware that they have no self-determination - the writer is God. Pretty weird.
â WhatRoughBeast
53 mins ago
yeah definitely agreed. It's just that the question is very much in-universe and your answer is very much out-of-universe, and on top of that very dismissive of the asker. We ALL KNOW that things are literary devices. Most of the questions here are about them, but from in-universe perspectives. Your comment response to me would actually make a much better answer, IMO.
â Conrad Bennish Jr
18 mins ago
add a comment |Â
1
I don't think you're really getting what the question is asking. Everyone's aware that the concept of 4th-wall breaking itself is a literary device and not a superpower. Noone's saying Ferris Bueller has a superpower for instance. The question is, in the context of Marvel, the character, and the universe the character exists in, is this instance of 4th-wall-breaking ONLY a literary device, or is it ALSO a part of the character's mutant powers?
â Conrad Bennish Jr
3 hours ago
Within the context of Deadpool's world, there is no camera and no moviemaker, so at best his asides and snarky comments are essentially him hallucinating, addressing a non-existent viewer. How this can be viewed as a superpower is beyond me. Or does there exist a reason to believe that the Marvel characters think of themselves as comic book characters? If so, that would seem to cast rather an odd light on their speech, thoughts and actions - they are always playing to the camera, so to speak. And so are presumably aware that they have no self-determination - the writer is God. Pretty weird.
â WhatRoughBeast
53 mins ago
yeah definitely agreed. It's just that the question is very much in-universe and your answer is very much out-of-universe, and on top of that very dismissive of the asker. We ALL KNOW that things are literary devices. Most of the questions here are about them, but from in-universe perspectives. Your comment response to me would actually make a much better answer, IMO.
â Conrad Bennish Jr
18 mins ago
1
1
I don't think you're really getting what the question is asking. Everyone's aware that the concept of 4th-wall breaking itself is a literary device and not a superpower. Noone's saying Ferris Bueller has a superpower for instance. The question is, in the context of Marvel, the character, and the universe the character exists in, is this instance of 4th-wall-breaking ONLY a literary device, or is it ALSO a part of the character's mutant powers?
â Conrad Bennish Jr
3 hours ago
I don't think you're really getting what the question is asking. Everyone's aware that the concept of 4th-wall breaking itself is a literary device and not a superpower. Noone's saying Ferris Bueller has a superpower for instance. The question is, in the context of Marvel, the character, and the universe the character exists in, is this instance of 4th-wall-breaking ONLY a literary device, or is it ALSO a part of the character's mutant powers?
â Conrad Bennish Jr
3 hours ago
Within the context of Deadpool's world, there is no camera and no moviemaker, so at best his asides and snarky comments are essentially him hallucinating, addressing a non-existent viewer. How this can be viewed as a superpower is beyond me. Or does there exist a reason to believe that the Marvel characters think of themselves as comic book characters? If so, that would seem to cast rather an odd light on their speech, thoughts and actions - they are always playing to the camera, so to speak. And so are presumably aware that they have no self-determination - the writer is God. Pretty weird.
â WhatRoughBeast
53 mins ago
Within the context of Deadpool's world, there is no camera and no moviemaker, so at best his asides and snarky comments are essentially him hallucinating, addressing a non-existent viewer. How this can be viewed as a superpower is beyond me. Or does there exist a reason to believe that the Marvel characters think of themselves as comic book characters? If so, that would seem to cast rather an odd light on their speech, thoughts and actions - they are always playing to the camera, so to speak. And so are presumably aware that they have no self-determination - the writer is God. Pretty weird.
â WhatRoughBeast
53 mins ago
yeah definitely agreed. It's just that the question is very much in-universe and your answer is very much out-of-universe, and on top of that very dismissive of the asker. We ALL KNOW that things are literary devices. Most of the questions here are about them, but from in-universe perspectives. Your comment response to me would actually make a much better answer, IMO.
â Conrad Bennish Jr
18 mins ago
yeah definitely agreed. It's just that the question is very much in-universe and your answer is very much out-of-universe, and on top of that very dismissive of the asker. We ALL KNOW that things are literary devices. Most of the questions here are about them, but from in-universe perspectives. Your comment response to me would actually make a much better answer, IMO.
â Conrad Bennish Jr
18 mins ago
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