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Are there any place in human body that safe to implant things and have large amount of blood run through?
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Suppose there was a fuel cell in the size of AAA battery that could convert human blood sugar into electricity. Assume it safe and efficient without causing allergic reaction. But to avoid the risk of it disintegrate and malfunction it should be put in a place that far away to any critical organ as much as possible. It also need to have large amount of blood to supply anytime
Which place in human body would be the best to put that device in?
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Suppose there was a fuel cell in the size of AAA battery that could convert human blood sugar into electricity. Assume it safe and efficient without causing allergic reaction. But to avoid the risk of it disintegrate and malfunction it should be put in a place that far away to any critical organ as much as possible. It also need to have large amount of blood to supply anytime
Which place in human body would be the best to put that device in?
human-anatomy biomedical-engineering
asked 5 hours ago
Thaina
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Wouldn't the answer also depend on the purpose of this implant? You wrote it produces electricity - where is this going to?
– Marzipanherz
3 hours ago
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My physiology knowledge is pretty thin, but I would guess that 'far away from critical organs' and 'large amount of blood supply' are pretty much diametrical to each other. (unless you don't count large blood vessels as organs or start tempering with stuff like VEGF)
– Nicolai
1 hour ago
@Marzipanherz In my hypothesis we could use wireless energy transfer with magnetic induction to charge anything outside our body such as cellphone or just implant the cellphone parts in our body
– Thaina
1 hour ago
@Nicolai I think so, so my question is to ask for a place that if accident happen, the nearest organ would be damaged but that organ should be the one that not make us die too fast. I also suspect that the fat tissue should have some blood supply to but I don't know if it enough
– Thaina
58 mins ago
1
@Thaina I'm not an expert, but you should consider that many body functions are based on electricity as well, and such an implant might interfere with that. Here is a short summary with further references.
– Marzipanherz
58 mins ago
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Suppose there was a fuel cell in the size of AAA battery that could convert human blood sugar into electricity. Assume it safe and efficient without causing allergic reaction. But to avoid the risk of it disintegrate and malfunction it should be put in a place that far away to any critical organ as much as possible. It also need to have large amount of blood to supply anytime
Which place in human body would be the best to put that device in?
human-anatomy biomedical-engineering
asked 5 hours ago
Thaina
254111
Suppose there was a fuel cell in the size of AAA battery that could convert human blood sugar into electricity. Assume it safe and efficient without causing allergic reaction. But to avoid the risk of it disintegrate and malfunction it should be put in a place that far away to any critical organ as much as possible. It also need to have large amount of blood to supply anytime
Which place in human body would be the best to put that device in?
human-anatomy biomedical-engineering
human-anatomy biomedical-engineering
asked 5 hours ago
Thaina
254111
asked 5 hours ago
Thaina
254111
asked 5 hours ago
Thaina
254111
asked 5 hours ago
Thaina
254111
asked 5 hours ago
Thaina
254111
254111
Wouldn't the answer also depend on the purpose of this implant? You wrote it produces electricity - where is this going to?
– Marzipanherz
3 hours ago
1
My physiology knowledge is pretty thin, but I would guess that 'far away from critical organs' and 'large amount of blood supply' are pretty much diametrical to each other. (unless you don't count large blood vessels as organs or start tempering with stuff like VEGF)
– Nicolai
1 hour ago
@Marzipanherz In my hypothesis we could use wireless energy transfer with magnetic induction to charge anything outside our body such as cellphone or just implant the cellphone parts in our body
– Thaina
1 hour ago
@Nicolai I think so, so my question is to ask for a place that if accident happen, the nearest organ would be damaged but that organ should be the one that not make us die too fast. I also suspect that the fat tissue should have some blood supply to but I don't know if it enough
– Thaina
58 mins ago
1
@Thaina I'm not an expert, but you should consider that many body functions are based on electricity as well, and such an implant might interfere with that. Here is a short summary with further references.
– Marzipanherz
58 mins ago
add a comment |Â
Wouldn't the answer also depend on the purpose of this implant? You wrote it produces electricity - where is this going to?
– Marzipanherz
3 hours ago
1
My physiology knowledge is pretty thin, but I would guess that 'far away from critical organs' and 'large amount of blood supply' are pretty much diametrical to each other. (unless you don't count large blood vessels as organs or start tempering with stuff like VEGF)
– Nicolai
1 hour ago
@Marzipanherz In my hypothesis we could use wireless energy transfer with magnetic induction to charge anything outside our body such as cellphone or just implant the cellphone parts in our body
– Thaina
1 hour ago
@Nicolai I think so, so my question is to ask for a place that if accident happen, the nearest organ would be damaged but that organ should be the one that not make us die too fast. I also suspect that the fat tissue should have some blood supply to but I don't know if it enough
– Thaina
58 mins ago
1
@Thaina I'm not an expert, but you should consider that many body functions are based on electricity as well, and such an implant might interfere with that. Here is a short summary with further references.
– Marzipanherz
58 mins ago
Wouldn't the answer also depend on the purpose of this implant? You wrote it produces electricity - where is this going to?
– Marzipanherz
3 hours ago
Wouldn't the answer also depend on the purpose of this implant? You wrote it produces electricity - where is this going to?
– Marzipanherz
3 hours ago
1
1
My physiology knowledge is pretty thin, but I would guess that 'far away from critical organs' and 'large amount of blood supply' are pretty much diametrical to each other. (unless you don't count large blood vessels as organs or start tempering with stuff like VEGF)
– Nicolai
1 hour ago
My physiology knowledge is pretty thin, but I would guess that 'far away from critical organs' and 'large amount of blood supply' are pretty much diametrical to each other. (unless you don't count large blood vessels as organs or start tempering with stuff like VEGF)
– Nicolai
1 hour ago
@Marzipanherz In my hypothesis we could use wireless energy transfer with magnetic induction to charge anything outside our body such as cellphone or just implant the cellphone parts in our body
– Thaina
1 hour ago
@Marzipanherz In my hypothesis we could use wireless energy transfer with magnetic induction to charge anything outside our body such as cellphone or just implant the cellphone parts in our body
– Thaina
1 hour ago
@Nicolai I think so, so my question is to ask for a place that if accident happen, the nearest organ would be damaged but that organ should be the one that not make us die too fast. I also suspect that the fat tissue should have some blood supply to but I don't know if it enough
– Thaina
58 mins ago
@Nicolai I think so, so my question is to ask for a place that if accident happen, the nearest organ would be damaged but that organ should be the one that not make us die too fast. I also suspect that the fat tissue should have some blood supply to but I don't know if it enough
– Thaina
58 mins ago
1
1
@Thaina I'm not an expert, but you should consider that many body functions are based on electricity as well, and such an implant might interfere with that. Here is a short summary with further references.
– Marzipanherz
58 mins ago
@Thaina I'm not an expert, but you should consider that many body functions are based on electricity as well, and such an implant might interfere with that. Here is a short summary with further references.
– Marzipanherz
58 mins ago
add a comment |Â
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No, there is no safe place.
Devices in contact with blood are subject to thrombosis and embolism. Even devices designed for bio/hemocompatibility are not 100% safe: they are used because the illnesses and diseases they treat are more dangerous than the side effects. Immune responses and platelet activation that occur in the vicinity of a device could also have effects elsewhere in the body, not just in the vessel you could potentially occlude.
Long term, these effects are reduced only because of healing over the exposed surface. You are proposing something which must be in constant contact with blood, which isn't really possible unless you plan to remove and clean it regularly.
On a side note, for the purposes you describe, there are already devices in development based on mechanical motion to do what you suggest (for example, the motion from walking) that are much safer and more feasible than using blood glucose, which is strictly in the realm of science fiction.
Lanzino, G., Wakhloo, A. K., Fessler, R. D., Hartney, M. L., Guterman, L. R., & Hopkins, L. N. (1999). Efficacy and current limitations of intravascular stents for intracranial internal carotid, vertebral, and basilar artery aneurysms. Journal of neurosurgery, 91(4), 538-546.
Wendel, H. P., & Ziemer, G. (1999). Coating-techniques to improve the hemocompatibility of artificial devices used for extracorporeal circulation. European Journal of Cardio-Thoracic Surgery, 16(3), 342-350.
Werner, C., Maitz, M. F., & Sperling, C. (2007). Current strategies towards hemocompatible coatings. Journal of materials chemistry, 17(32), 3376-3384.
answered 49 mins ago
Bryan Krause
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My purpose is not just energy harvest (it is one of purpose too). But to have burn calorie and control blood sugar level by disposing it as useful energy without moving at all (which will be good for lazy diabetes people (such as myself)) that's why I want this technology be possible
– Thaina
11 mins ago
2
@Thaina I understand why you might want the technology to be possible; I'm explaining why it's dangerous.
– Bryan Krause
4 mins ago
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No, there is no safe place.
Devices in contact with blood are subject to thrombosis and embolism. Even devices designed for bio/hemocompatibility are not 100% safe: they are used because the illnesses and diseases they treat are more dangerous than the side effects. Immune responses and platelet activation that occur in the vicinity of a device could also have effects elsewhere in the body, not just in the vessel you could potentially occlude.
Long term, these effects are reduced only because of healing over the exposed surface. You are proposing something which must be in constant contact with blood, which isn't really possible unless you plan to remove and clean it regularly.
On a side note, for the purposes you describe, there are already devices in development based on mechanical motion to do what you suggest (for example, the motion from walking) that are much safer and more feasible than using blood glucose, which is strictly in the realm of science fiction.
Lanzino, G., Wakhloo, A. K., Fessler, R. D., Hartney, M. L., Guterman, L. R., & Hopkins, L. N. (1999). Efficacy and current limitations of intravascular stents for intracranial internal carotid, vertebral, and basilar artery aneurysms. Journal of neurosurgery, 91(4), 538-546.
Wendel, H. P., & Ziemer, G. (1999). Coating-techniques to improve the hemocompatibility of artificial devices used for extracorporeal circulation. European Journal of Cardio-Thoracic Surgery, 16(3), 342-350.
Werner, C., Maitz, M. F., & Sperling, C. (2007). Current strategies towards hemocompatible coatings. Journal of materials chemistry, 17(32), 3376-3384.
answered 49 mins ago
Bryan Krause
16k22648
My purpose is not just energy harvest (it is one of purpose too). But to have burn calorie and control blood sugar level by disposing it as useful energy without moving at all (which will be good for lazy diabetes people (such as myself)) that's why I want this technology be possible
– Thaina
11 mins ago
2
@Thaina I understand why you might want the technology to be possible; I'm explaining why it's dangerous.
– Bryan Krause
4 mins ago
add a comment |Â
up vote
4
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No, there is no safe place.
Devices in contact with blood are subject to thrombosis and embolism. Even devices designed for bio/hemocompatibility are not 100% safe: they are used because the illnesses and diseases they treat are more dangerous than the side effects. Immune responses and platelet activation that occur in the vicinity of a device could also have effects elsewhere in the body, not just in the vessel you could potentially occlude.
Long term, these effects are reduced only because of healing over the exposed surface. You are proposing something which must be in constant contact with blood, which isn't really possible unless you plan to remove and clean it regularly.
On a side note, for the purposes you describe, there are already devices in development based on mechanical motion to do what you suggest (for example, the motion from walking) that are much safer and more feasible than using blood glucose, which is strictly in the realm of science fiction.
Lanzino, G., Wakhloo, A. K., Fessler, R. D., Hartney, M. L., Guterman, L. R., & Hopkins, L. N. (1999). Efficacy and current limitations of intravascular stents for intracranial internal carotid, vertebral, and basilar artery aneurysms. Journal of neurosurgery, 91(4), 538-546.
Wendel, H. P., & Ziemer, G. (1999). Coating-techniques to improve the hemocompatibility of artificial devices used for extracorporeal circulation. European Journal of Cardio-Thoracic Surgery, 16(3), 342-350.
Werner, C., Maitz, M. F., & Sperling, C. (2007). Current strategies towards hemocompatible coatings. Journal of materials chemistry, 17(32), 3376-3384.
answered 49 mins ago
Bryan Krause
16k22648
My purpose is not just energy harvest (it is one of purpose too). But to have burn calorie and control blood sugar level by disposing it as useful energy without moving at all (which will be good for lazy diabetes people (such as myself)) that's why I want this technology be possible
– Thaina
11 mins ago
2
@Thaina I understand why you might want the technology to be possible; I'm explaining why it's dangerous.
– Bryan Krause
4 mins ago
add a comment |Â
up vote
4
down vote
up vote
4
down vote
No, there is no safe place.
Devices in contact with blood are subject to thrombosis and embolism. Even devices designed for bio/hemocompatibility are not 100% safe: they are used because the illnesses and diseases they treat are more dangerous than the side effects. Immune responses and platelet activation that occur in the vicinity of a device could also have effects elsewhere in the body, not just in the vessel you could potentially occlude.
Long term, these effects are reduced only because of healing over the exposed surface. You are proposing something which must be in constant contact with blood, which isn't really possible unless you plan to remove and clean it regularly.
On a side note, for the purposes you describe, there are already devices in development based on mechanical motion to do what you suggest (for example, the motion from walking) that are much safer and more feasible than using blood glucose, which is strictly in the realm of science fiction.
Lanzino, G., Wakhloo, A. K., Fessler, R. D., Hartney, M. L., Guterman, L. R., & Hopkins, L. N. (1999). Efficacy and current limitations of intravascular stents for intracranial internal carotid, vertebral, and basilar artery aneurysms. Journal of neurosurgery, 91(4), 538-546.
Wendel, H. P., & Ziemer, G. (1999). Coating-techniques to improve the hemocompatibility of artificial devices used for extracorporeal circulation. European Journal of Cardio-Thoracic Surgery, 16(3), 342-350.
Werner, C., Maitz, M. F., & Sperling, C. (2007). Current strategies towards hemocompatible coatings. Journal of materials chemistry, 17(32), 3376-3384.
answered 49 mins ago
Bryan Krause
16k22648
No, there is no safe place.
Devices in contact with blood are subject to thrombosis and embolism. Even devices designed for bio/hemocompatibility are not 100% safe: they are used because the illnesses and diseases they treat are more dangerous than the side effects. Immune responses and platelet activation that occur in the vicinity of a device could also have effects elsewhere in the body, not just in the vessel you could potentially occlude.
Long term, these effects are reduced only because of healing over the exposed surface. You are proposing something which must be in constant contact with blood, which isn't really possible unless you plan to remove and clean it regularly.
On a side note, for the purposes you describe, there are already devices in development based on mechanical motion to do what you suggest (for example, the motion from walking) that are much safer and more feasible than using blood glucose, which is strictly in the realm of science fiction.
Lanzino, G., Wakhloo, A. K., Fessler, R. D., Hartney, M. L., Guterman, L. R., & Hopkins, L. N. (1999). Efficacy and current limitations of intravascular stents for intracranial internal carotid, vertebral, and basilar artery aneurysms. Journal of neurosurgery, 91(4), 538-546.
Wendel, H. P., & Ziemer, G. (1999). Coating-techniques to improve the hemocompatibility of artificial devices used for extracorporeal circulation. European Journal of Cardio-Thoracic Surgery, 16(3), 342-350.
Werner, C., Maitz, M. F., & Sperling, C. (2007). Current strategies towards hemocompatible coatings. Journal of materials chemistry, 17(32), 3376-3384.
answered 49 mins ago
Bryan Krause
16k22648
edited 18 mins ago
answered 49 mins ago
Bryan Krause
16k22648
answered 49 mins ago
Bryan Krause
16k22648
answered 49 mins ago
Bryan Krause
16k22648
16k22648
My purpose is not just energy harvest (it is one of purpose too). But to have burn calorie and control blood sugar level by disposing it as useful energy without moving at all (which will be good for lazy diabetes people (such as myself)) that's why I want this technology be possible
– Thaina
11 mins ago
2
@Thaina I understand why you might want the technology to be possible; I'm explaining why it's dangerous.
– Bryan Krause
4 mins ago
add a comment |Â
My purpose is not just energy harvest (it is one of purpose too). But to have burn calorie and control blood sugar level by disposing it as useful energy without moving at all (which will be good for lazy diabetes people (such as myself)) that's why I want this technology be possible
– Thaina
11 mins ago
2
@Thaina I understand why you might want the technology to be possible; I'm explaining why it's dangerous.
– Bryan Krause
4 mins ago
My purpose is not just energy harvest (it is one of purpose too). But to have burn calorie and control blood sugar level by disposing it as useful energy without moving at all (which will be good for lazy diabetes people (such as myself)) that's why I want this technology be possible
– Thaina
11 mins ago
My purpose is not just energy harvest (it is one of purpose too). But to have burn calorie and control blood sugar level by disposing it as useful energy without moving at all (which will be good for lazy diabetes people (such as myself)) that's why I want this technology be possible
– Thaina
11 mins ago
2
2
@Thaina I understand why you might want the technology to be possible; I'm explaining why it's dangerous.
– Bryan Krause
4 mins ago
@Thaina I understand why you might want the technology to be possible; I'm explaining why it's dangerous.
– Bryan Krause
4 mins ago
add a comment |Â
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Wouldn't the answer also depend on the purpose of this implant? You wrote it produces electricity - where is this going to?
– Marzipanherz
3 hours ago
1
My physiology knowledge is pretty thin, but I would guess that 'far away from critical organs' and 'large amount of blood supply' are pretty much diametrical to each other. (unless you don't count large blood vessels as organs or start tempering with stuff like VEGF)
– Nicolai
1 hour ago
@Marzipanherz In my hypothesis we could use wireless energy transfer with magnetic induction to charge anything outside our body such as cellphone or just implant the cellphone parts in our body
– Thaina
1 hour ago
@Nicolai I think so, so my question is to ask for a place that if accident happen, the nearest organ would be damaged but that organ should be the one that not make us die too fast. I also suspect that the fat tissue should have some blood supply to but I don't know if it enough
– Thaina
58 mins ago
1
@Thaina I'm not an expert, but you should consider that many body functions are based on electricity as well, and such an implant might interfere with that. Here is a short summary with further references.
– Marzipanherz
58 mins ago