What's the difference between “Tanya” and “Tanu Rabanan”?

The name of the pictureThe name of the pictureThe name of the pictureClash Royale CLAN TAG#URR8PPP











up vote
3
down vote

favorite












The Gemara often introduces a braysa by using the term "Tanu Rabanan" or the term "Tanya". Assuming there is a difference, what is the difference?






talmud-gemara







share|improve this question

























    up vote
    3
    down vote

    favorite












    The Gemara often introduces a braysa by using the term "Tanu Rabanan" or the term "Tanya". Assuming there is a difference, what is the difference?






    talmud-gemara







    share|improve this question























      up vote
      3
      down vote

      favorite









      up vote
      3
      down vote

      favorite











      The Gemara often introduces a braysa by using the term "Tanu Rabanan" or the term "Tanya". Assuming there is a difference, what is the difference?






      talmud-gemara







      share|improve this question













      The Gemara often introduces a braysa by using the term "Tanu Rabanan" or the term "Tanya". Assuming there is a difference, what is the difference?






      talmud-gemara




      talmud-gemara






      share|improve this question













      share|improve this question











      share|improve this question




      share|improve this question










      asked 52 mins ago









      Gavriel

      3,58311242




      3,58311242




















          1 Answer
          1






          active

          oldest

          votes

















          up vote
          3
          down vote













          Rav Sherira Gaon, in his letter: Braysa's that were verified by Rebbe Chiya and Rebbe Oshiya are introduced by the words Tanu Rabanan. Other braysos are introduced with the word Tanya.



          Rama Mipano, Shu"s siman 25: Tanu Rabanan braysos are generally accepted by all Tannaim, Tanya braysos are the position of an individual.



          Professor Chanoch Elbek took issue with Rav sherira Gaon's principle because 1) The Talmud Yerushalmi does not use the term tanu Rabanan, only the term "tani", 2) Meseches Nedarim only uses the term tanya, not tanu Rabanan, 3) Braysos that are introduced by "tanu Rabanan" are then referred to using the term tanya. (From Professor Elbek's book Mavo LeTalmudim. You can see the excerpt here.)






          share|improve this answer






















          • Based on those problems (btw, posed by whom?), why isn’t the Rama Mipano’s opinion similarly challenged?
            – DonielF
            41 mins ago










          • @DonielF I updated the answer.
            – Gavriel
            28 mins ago


















          1 Answer
          1






          active

          oldest

          votes








          1 Answer
          1






          active

          oldest

          votes









          active

          oldest

          votes






          active

          oldest

          votes








          up vote
          3
          down vote













          Rav Sherira Gaon, in his letter: Braysa's that were verified by Rebbe Chiya and Rebbe Oshiya are introduced by the words Tanu Rabanan. Other braysos are introduced with the word Tanya.



          Rama Mipano, Shu"s siman 25: Tanu Rabanan braysos are generally accepted by all Tannaim, Tanya braysos are the position of an individual.



          Professor Chanoch Elbek took issue with Rav sherira Gaon's principle because 1) The Talmud Yerushalmi does not use the term tanu Rabanan, only the term "tani", 2) Meseches Nedarim only uses the term tanya, not tanu Rabanan, 3) Braysos that are introduced by "tanu Rabanan" are then referred to using the term tanya. (From Professor Elbek's book Mavo LeTalmudim. You can see the excerpt here.)






          share|improve this answer






















          • Based on those problems (btw, posed by whom?), why isn’t the Rama Mipano’s opinion similarly challenged?
            – DonielF
            41 mins ago










          • @DonielF I updated the answer.
            – Gavriel
            28 mins ago














          up vote
          3
          down vote













          Rav Sherira Gaon, in his letter: Braysa's that were verified by Rebbe Chiya and Rebbe Oshiya are introduced by the words Tanu Rabanan. Other braysos are introduced with the word Tanya.



          Rama Mipano, Shu"s siman 25: Tanu Rabanan braysos are generally accepted by all Tannaim, Tanya braysos are the position of an individual.



          Professor Chanoch Elbek took issue with Rav sherira Gaon's principle because 1) The Talmud Yerushalmi does not use the term tanu Rabanan, only the term "tani", 2) Meseches Nedarim only uses the term tanya, not tanu Rabanan, 3) Braysos that are introduced by "tanu Rabanan" are then referred to using the term tanya. (From Professor Elbek's book Mavo LeTalmudim. You can see the excerpt here.)






          share|improve this answer






















          • Based on those problems (btw, posed by whom?), why isn’t the Rama Mipano’s opinion similarly challenged?
            – DonielF
            41 mins ago










          • @DonielF I updated the answer.
            – Gavriel
            28 mins ago












          up vote
          3
          down vote










          up vote
          3
          down vote









          Rav Sherira Gaon, in his letter: Braysa's that were verified by Rebbe Chiya and Rebbe Oshiya are introduced by the words Tanu Rabanan. Other braysos are introduced with the word Tanya.



          Rama Mipano, Shu"s siman 25: Tanu Rabanan braysos are generally accepted by all Tannaim, Tanya braysos are the position of an individual.



          Professor Chanoch Elbek took issue with Rav sherira Gaon's principle because 1) The Talmud Yerushalmi does not use the term tanu Rabanan, only the term "tani", 2) Meseches Nedarim only uses the term tanya, not tanu Rabanan, 3) Braysos that are introduced by "tanu Rabanan" are then referred to using the term tanya. (From Professor Elbek's book Mavo LeTalmudim. You can see the excerpt here.)






          share|improve this answer














          Rav Sherira Gaon, in his letter: Braysa's that were verified by Rebbe Chiya and Rebbe Oshiya are introduced by the words Tanu Rabanan. Other braysos are introduced with the word Tanya.



          Rama Mipano, Shu"s siman 25: Tanu Rabanan braysos are generally accepted by all Tannaim, Tanya braysos are the position of an individual.



          Professor Chanoch Elbek took issue with Rav sherira Gaon's principle because 1) The Talmud Yerushalmi does not use the term tanu Rabanan, only the term "tani", 2) Meseches Nedarim only uses the term tanya, not tanu Rabanan, 3) Braysos that are introduced by "tanu Rabanan" are then referred to using the term tanya. (From Professor Elbek's book Mavo LeTalmudim. You can see the excerpt here.)







          share|improve this answer














          share|improve this answer



          share|improve this answer








          edited 28 mins ago

























          answered 52 mins ago









          Gavriel

          3,58311242




          3,58311242











          • Based on those problems (btw, posed by whom?), why isn’t the Rama Mipano’s opinion similarly challenged?
            – DonielF
            41 mins ago










          • @DonielF I updated the answer.
            – Gavriel
            28 mins ago
















          • Based on those problems (btw, posed by whom?), why isn’t the Rama Mipano’s opinion similarly challenged?
            – DonielF
            41 mins ago










          • @DonielF I updated the answer.
            – Gavriel
            28 mins ago















          Based on those problems (btw, posed by whom?), why isn’t the Rama Mipano’s opinion similarly challenged?
          – DonielF
          41 mins ago




          Based on those problems (btw, posed by whom?), why isn’t the Rama Mipano’s opinion similarly challenged?
          – DonielF
          41 mins ago












          @DonielF I updated the answer.
          – Gavriel
          28 mins ago




          @DonielF I updated the answer.
          – Gavriel
          28 mins ago


          Comments

          Post a Comment

          Popular posts from this blog

          Long meetings (6-7 hours a day): Being “babysat” by supervisor

          Image
          Clash Royale CLAN TAG #URR8PPP .everyoneloves__top-leaderboard:empty,.everyoneloves__mid-leaderboard:empty margin-bottom:0; up vote 31 down vote favorite 4 I hold a PhD in mechanical engineering with a 7 year background in self-guided, self-paced research including 2 years as a graduate level course instructor and a subject matter expert for various engineering projects in a university setting in the United States. For the last 10-11 months, I am working in a research industry in France where my task is to debug C++ spaghetti code written over a period of several years by my current supervisor. It is a team of 2: just I and my supervisor. Diurnally, I am posed with a "bug of the day" to get out of this C++ code. My supervisor generally gives me about 15-30 minutes to solve it and then accosts me about whether or not the task is completed and then rinses and repeats this until the end of the day. Off-late, my supervisor has been holding 6-7 hour long "meetin
          Read more

          Is the Concept of Multiple Fantasy Races Scientifically Flawed? [closed]

          Image
          Clash Royale CLAN TAG #URR8PPP up vote 2 down vote favorite Many fantasy worlds have multiple humanoid species (elves, orcs, humans, etc) living in the same world, in addition to that, they often have the ability to interbreed. And I can't help but question their believability... fantasy-races reproduction interspecies-relations share | improve this question edited Aug 9 at 14:46 Michael Kjörling ♦ 21.1k 10 85 161 asked Aug 9 at 13:13 Chlodio 118 6 closed as unclear what you're asking by MichaelK, Gryphon, John, Vincent, Frostfyre Aug 9 at 15:25 Please clarify your specific problem or add additional details to highlight exactly what you need. As it's currently written, it’s hard to tell exactly what you're asking. See the How to Ask page for help clarifying this question. If this question can be reworded to fit the rules in the help center, please edit the question. 3 Stack Exchange exist to
          Read more

          Confectionery

          Image
          Prepared foods made with a lot of sugar or other cabohydrates "Sweetmeat" redirects here. For the racehorse, see Sweetmeat (horse). Not to be confused with Sweetbread. This Kransekake is a traditional Scandinavian baker's confection. Confectionery is the art of making confections , which are food items that are rich in sugar and carbohydrates. Exact definitions are difficult. [1] In general, though, confectionery is divided into two broad and somewhat overlapping categories, bakers' confections and sugar confections. [2] Bakers' confectionery, also called flour confections , includes principally sweet pastries, cakes, and similar baked goods. Sugar confectionery includes candies ( sweets in British English), candied nuts, chocolates, chewing gum, bubble gum, pastillage, and other confections that are made primarily of sugar. In some cases, chocolate confections (confections made of chocolate) are treated as a separate category, as are sugar-free versions of
          Read more