Solving an equation with vector coefficients

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I want to solve $(ct)^2 = d(t)cdot d(t)$ for $t$, where $ d(t) = frac12at^2 + vt + r$



Where$ a, v$, and $r$ are all 3-dimensional vectors in Cartesian coordinates. How can I do this?










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  • What is the variable that you want to solve for?
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  • (ct)^2 is a constant?
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  • t is the variable to solve for, c is the speed of light so a constant yes.
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I want to solve $(ct)^2 = d(t)cdot d(t)$ for $t$, where $ d(t) = frac12at^2 + vt + r$



Where$ a, v$, and $r$ are all 3-dimensional vectors in Cartesian coordinates. How can I do this?










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  • What is the variable that you want to solve for?
    – Henrik Schumacher
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  • t is the variable to solve for, c is the speed of light so a constant yes.
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  • What is the variable that you want to solve for?
    – Henrik Schumacher
    3 hours ago










  • (ct)^2 is a constant?
    – Ulrich Neumann
    3 hours ago










  • t is the variable to solve for, c is the speed of light so a constant yes.
    – Sean McAllister
    3 hours ago

















  • What is the variable that you want to solve for?
    – Henrik Schumacher
    3 hours ago










  • (ct)^2 is a constant?
    – Ulrich Neumann
    3 hours ago










  • t is the variable to solve for, c is the speed of light so a constant yes.
    – Sean McAllister
    3 hours ago
















What is the variable that you want to solve for?
– Henrik Schumacher
3 hours ago




What is the variable that you want to solve for?
– Henrik Schumacher
3 hours ago












(ct)^2 is a constant?
– Ulrich Neumann
3 hours ago




(ct)^2 is a constant?
– Ulrich Neumann
3 hours ago












t is the variable to solve for, c is the speed of light so a constant yes.
– Sean McAllister
3 hours ago





t is the variable to solve for, c is the speed of light so a constant yes.
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If you define the three vectors explicitly as



A = a1, a2, a3;
V = v1, v2, v3;
R = r1, r2, r3;


your equation evaluates to a polynom in t of order 4



eq = (c t)^2 == #.# &[1/2 A t^2 + V t + R] // Collect[#, t] &


which you might solve using MMA Solve[eq, t]



addendum



If you want preserve the invariant scalarproducts, the equation could be defined as follows



Clear[A, V, R]
(c t)^2 == 1/2 t^2, t, 1.Outer[Dot, A, V, R, A, V, R].1/2 t^2,t, 1
(*c^2 t^2 ==1/2 t^2 A.R + R.R + 1/2 t^2 (1/2 t^2 A.A + R.A + t V.A) + t V.R+t (1/2 t^2 A.V + R.V + t V.V)*)





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    You can use TensorExpand. First, some assumptions, and your distance function:



    $Assumptions = (a|v|r) ∈ Vectors[3];

    d[t_] := 1/2 a t^2 + v t + r


    Then, use Solve on the tensor expanded equation:



    Solve[
    TensorExpand[d[t] . d[t] == (c t)^2],
    t,
    Quartics->False
    ]



    t -> Root[
    4 r.r + 8 r.v #1 + (-4 c^2 + 4 a.r + 4 v.v) #1^2 + 4 a.v #1^3 +
    a.a #1^4 &, 1], t ->
    Root[4 r.r + 8 r.v #1 + (-4 c^2 + 4 a.r + 4 v.v) #1^2 + 4 a.v #1^3 +
    a.a #1^4 &, 2], t ->
    Root[4 r.r + 8 r.v #1 + (-4 c^2 + 4 a.r + 4 v.v) #1^2 + 4 a.v #1^3 +
    a.a #1^4 &, 3], t ->
    Root[4 r.r + 8 r.v #1 + (-4 c^2 + 4 a.r + 4 v.v) #1^2 + 4 a.v #1^3 +
    a.a #1^4 &, 4]




    Without the Quartics option, you get a mess of hard to understand radicals.






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      If you define the three vectors explicitly as



      A = a1, a2, a3;
      V = v1, v2, v3;
      R = r1, r2, r3;


      your equation evaluates to a polynom in t of order 4



      eq = (c t)^2 == #.# &[1/2 A t^2 + V t + R] // Collect[#, t] &


      which you might solve using MMA Solve[eq, t]



      addendum



      If you want preserve the invariant scalarproducts, the equation could be defined as follows



      Clear[A, V, R]
      (c t)^2 == 1/2 t^2, t, 1.Outer[Dot, A, V, R, A, V, R].1/2 t^2,t, 1
      (*c^2 t^2 ==1/2 t^2 A.R + R.R + 1/2 t^2 (1/2 t^2 A.A + R.A + t V.A) + t V.R+t (1/2 t^2 A.V + R.V + t V.V)*)





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        If you define the three vectors explicitly as



        A = a1, a2, a3;
        V = v1, v2, v3;
        R = r1, r2, r3;


        your equation evaluates to a polynom in t of order 4



        eq = (c t)^2 == #.# &[1/2 A t^2 + V t + R] // Collect[#, t] &


        which you might solve using MMA Solve[eq, t]



        addendum



        If you want preserve the invariant scalarproducts, the equation could be defined as follows



        Clear[A, V, R]
        (c t)^2 == 1/2 t^2, t, 1.Outer[Dot, A, V, R, A, V, R].1/2 t^2,t, 1
        (*c^2 t^2 ==1/2 t^2 A.R + R.R + 1/2 t^2 (1/2 t^2 A.A + R.A + t V.A) + t V.R+t (1/2 t^2 A.V + R.V + t V.V)*)





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          If you define the three vectors explicitly as



          A = a1, a2, a3;
          V = v1, v2, v3;
          R = r1, r2, r3;


          your equation evaluates to a polynom in t of order 4



          eq = (c t)^2 == #.# &[1/2 A t^2 + V t + R] // Collect[#, t] &


          which you might solve using MMA Solve[eq, t]



          addendum



          If you want preserve the invariant scalarproducts, the equation could be defined as follows



          Clear[A, V, R]
          (c t)^2 == 1/2 t^2, t, 1.Outer[Dot, A, V, R, A, V, R].1/2 t^2,t, 1
          (*c^2 t^2 ==1/2 t^2 A.R + R.R + 1/2 t^2 (1/2 t^2 A.A + R.A + t V.A) + t V.R+t (1/2 t^2 A.V + R.V + t V.V)*)





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          If you define the three vectors explicitly as



          A = a1, a2, a3;
          V = v1, v2, v3;
          R = r1, r2, r3;


          your equation evaluates to a polynom in t of order 4



          eq = (c t)^2 == #.# &[1/2 A t^2 + V t + R] // Collect[#, t] &


          which you might solve using MMA Solve[eq, t]



          addendum



          If you want preserve the invariant scalarproducts, the equation could be defined as follows



          Clear[A, V, R]
          (c t)^2 == 1/2 t^2, t, 1.Outer[Dot, A, V, R, A, V, R].1/2 t^2,t, 1
          (*c^2 t^2 ==1/2 t^2 A.R + R.R + 1/2 t^2 (1/2 t^2 A.A + R.A + t V.A) + t V.R+t (1/2 t^2 A.V + R.V + t V.V)*)






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              You can use TensorExpand. First, some assumptions, and your distance function:



              $Assumptions = (a|v|r) ∈ Vectors[3];

              d[t_] := 1/2 a t^2 + v t + r


              Then, use Solve on the tensor expanded equation:



              Solve[
              TensorExpand[d[t] . d[t] == (c t)^2],
              t,
              Quartics->False
              ]



              t -> Root[
              4 r.r + 8 r.v #1 + (-4 c^2 + 4 a.r + 4 v.v) #1^2 + 4 a.v #1^3 +
              a.a #1^4 &, 1], t ->
              Root[4 r.r + 8 r.v #1 + (-4 c^2 + 4 a.r + 4 v.v) #1^2 + 4 a.v #1^3 +
              a.a #1^4 &, 2], t ->
              Root[4 r.r + 8 r.v #1 + (-4 c^2 + 4 a.r + 4 v.v) #1^2 + 4 a.v #1^3 +
              a.a #1^4 &, 3], t ->
              Root[4 r.r + 8 r.v #1 + (-4 c^2 + 4 a.r + 4 v.v) #1^2 + 4 a.v #1^3 +
              a.a #1^4 &, 4]




              Without the Quartics option, you get a mess of hard to understand radicals.






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                up vote
                3
                down vote













                You can use TensorExpand. First, some assumptions, and your distance function:



                $Assumptions = (a|v|r) ∈ Vectors[3];

                d[t_] := 1/2 a t^2 + v t + r


                Then, use Solve on the tensor expanded equation:



                Solve[
                TensorExpand[d[t] . d[t] == (c t)^2],
                t,
                Quartics->False
                ]



                t -> Root[
                4 r.r + 8 r.v #1 + (-4 c^2 + 4 a.r + 4 v.v) #1^2 + 4 a.v #1^3 +
                a.a #1^4 &, 1], t ->
                Root[4 r.r + 8 r.v #1 + (-4 c^2 + 4 a.r + 4 v.v) #1^2 + 4 a.v #1^3 +
                a.a #1^4 &, 2], t ->
                Root[4 r.r + 8 r.v #1 + (-4 c^2 + 4 a.r + 4 v.v) #1^2 + 4 a.v #1^3 +
                a.a #1^4 &, 3], t ->
                Root[4 r.r + 8 r.v #1 + (-4 c^2 + 4 a.r + 4 v.v) #1^2 + 4 a.v #1^3 +
                a.a #1^4 &, 4]




                Without the Quartics option, you get a mess of hard to understand radicals.






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                  You can use TensorExpand. First, some assumptions, and your distance function:



                  $Assumptions = (a|v|r) ∈ Vectors[3];

                  d[t_] := 1/2 a t^2 + v t + r


                  Then, use Solve on the tensor expanded equation:



                  Solve[
                  TensorExpand[d[t] . d[t] == (c t)^2],
                  t,
                  Quartics->False
                  ]



                  t -> Root[
                  4 r.r + 8 r.v #1 + (-4 c^2 + 4 a.r + 4 v.v) #1^2 + 4 a.v #1^3 +
                  a.a #1^4 &, 1], t ->
                  Root[4 r.r + 8 r.v #1 + (-4 c^2 + 4 a.r + 4 v.v) #1^2 + 4 a.v #1^3 +
                  a.a #1^4 &, 2], t ->
                  Root[4 r.r + 8 r.v #1 + (-4 c^2 + 4 a.r + 4 v.v) #1^2 + 4 a.v #1^3 +
                  a.a #1^4 &, 3], t ->
                  Root[4 r.r + 8 r.v #1 + (-4 c^2 + 4 a.r + 4 v.v) #1^2 + 4 a.v #1^3 +
                  a.a #1^4 &, 4]




                  Without the Quartics option, you get a mess of hard to understand radicals.






                  share|improve this answer












                  You can use TensorExpand. First, some assumptions, and your distance function:



                  $Assumptions = (a|v|r) ∈ Vectors[3];

                  d[t_] := 1/2 a t^2 + v t + r


                  Then, use Solve on the tensor expanded equation:



                  Solve[
                  TensorExpand[d[t] . d[t] == (c t)^2],
                  t,
                  Quartics->False
                  ]



                  t -> Root[
                  4 r.r + 8 r.v #1 + (-4 c^2 + 4 a.r + 4 v.v) #1^2 + 4 a.v #1^3 +
                  a.a #1^4 &, 1], t ->
                  Root[4 r.r + 8 r.v #1 + (-4 c^2 + 4 a.r + 4 v.v) #1^2 + 4 a.v #1^3 +
                  a.a #1^4 &, 2], t ->
                  Root[4 r.r + 8 r.v #1 + (-4 c^2 + 4 a.r + 4 v.v) #1^2 + 4 a.v #1^3 +
                  a.a #1^4 &, 3], t ->
                  Root[4 r.r + 8 r.v #1 + (-4 c^2 + 4 a.r + 4 v.v) #1^2 + 4 a.v #1^3 +
                  a.a #1^4 &, 4]




                  Without the Quartics option, you get a mess of hard to understand radicals.







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