Confusing use of ãÂÂã¤
Clash Royale CLAN TAG#URR8PPP
up vote
2
down vote
favorite
ãÂÂã®ãÂÂã¹ã®ä¼Â社ã«ãÂÂãÂÂã¨ãÂÂæ±京ã§ã¯ï¼Âé±éÂÂã«ï¼ÂæÂ¥ãÂÂæ¼ã¨å¤Âã®ï¼ÂÃ¥ÂÂãÂÂã¤走ãÂÂäºÂå®Âã§ãÂÂäºÂç´ÂãÂÂå¿ è¦Âã§ãÂÂãÂÂ
According to the company that runs these buses, they plan to run the Tokyo bus three times a week, twice each in the afternoon and evening. A reservation will be needed.
I'm unsure of how to understand æ¼ã¨å¤Âã®ï¼ÂÃ¥ÂÂãÂÂã¤. Does this mean twice in the afternoon and twice in the evening, or does it mean once in the afternoon and once in the evening (making two times in total)?
I'm not even sure whether ãÂÂ㤠modifies 2å or 3æÂÂ¥.
Whichever is the correct interpretation how would you adjust it to give the other one?
grammar counters
add a comment |Â
up vote
2
down vote
favorite
ãÂÂã®ãÂÂã¹ã®ä¼Â社ã«ãÂÂãÂÂã¨ãÂÂæ±京ã§ã¯ï¼Âé±éÂÂã«ï¼ÂæÂ¥ãÂÂæ¼ã¨å¤Âã®ï¼ÂÃ¥ÂÂãÂÂã¤走ãÂÂäºÂå®Âã§ãÂÂäºÂç´ÂãÂÂå¿ è¦Âã§ãÂÂãÂÂ
According to the company that runs these buses, they plan to run the Tokyo bus three times a week, twice each in the afternoon and evening. A reservation will be needed.
I'm unsure of how to understand æ¼ã¨å¤Âã®ï¼ÂÃ¥ÂÂãÂÂã¤. Does this mean twice in the afternoon and twice in the evening, or does it mean once in the afternoon and once in the evening (making two times in total)?
I'm not even sure whether ãÂÂ㤠modifies 2å or 3æÂÂ¥.
Whichever is the correct interpretation how would you adjust it to give the other one?
grammar counters
add a comment |Â
up vote
2
down vote
favorite
up vote
2
down vote
favorite
ãÂÂã®ãÂÂã¹ã®ä¼Â社ã«ãÂÂãÂÂã¨ãÂÂæ±京ã§ã¯ï¼Âé±éÂÂã«ï¼ÂæÂ¥ãÂÂæ¼ã¨å¤Âã®ï¼ÂÃ¥ÂÂãÂÂã¤走ãÂÂäºÂå®Âã§ãÂÂäºÂç´ÂãÂÂå¿ è¦Âã§ãÂÂãÂÂ
According to the company that runs these buses, they plan to run the Tokyo bus three times a week, twice each in the afternoon and evening. A reservation will be needed.
I'm unsure of how to understand æ¼ã¨å¤Âã®ï¼ÂÃ¥ÂÂãÂÂã¤. Does this mean twice in the afternoon and twice in the evening, or does it mean once in the afternoon and once in the evening (making two times in total)?
I'm not even sure whether ãÂÂ㤠modifies 2å or 3æÂÂ¥.
Whichever is the correct interpretation how would you adjust it to give the other one?
grammar counters
ãÂÂã®ãÂÂã¹ã®ä¼Â社ã«ãÂÂãÂÂã¨ãÂÂæ±京ã§ã¯ï¼Âé±éÂÂã«ï¼ÂæÂ¥ãÂÂæ¼ã¨å¤Âã®ï¼ÂÃ¥ÂÂãÂÂã¤走ãÂÂäºÂå®Âã§ãÂÂäºÂç´ÂãÂÂå¿ è¦Âã§ãÂÂãÂÂ
According to the company that runs these buses, they plan to run the Tokyo bus three times a week, twice each in the afternoon and evening. A reservation will be needed.
I'm unsure of how to understand æ¼ã¨å¤Âã®ï¼ÂÃ¥ÂÂãÂÂã¤. Does this mean twice in the afternoon and twice in the evening, or does it mean once in the afternoon and once in the evening (making two times in total)?
I'm not even sure whether ãÂÂ㤠modifies 2å or 3æÂÂ¥.
Whichever is the correct interpretation how would you adjust it to give the other one?
grammar counters
grammar counters
asked 5 hours ago
user3856370
11.7k51451
11.7k51451
add a comment |Â
add a comment |Â
2 Answers
2
active
oldest
votes
up vote
2
down vote
æ¼ã¨å¤Âã«2Ã¥ÂÂãÂÂ㤠is ambiguous, but usually means "twice in the afternoon and twice in the evening", i.e., four times a day.
æ¼ã¨å¤Âã®2Ã¥ÂÂãÂÂ㤠is not ambiguous and it only means "twice a day, one in the afternoon and one in the evening." Here ã® is an apposition marker, and 2å and æ¼ã¨夠are referring to the same thing. ãÂÂ㤠is used in relation to æÂÂ¥ before æ¼ã¨夠(it's "per day" rather than "per æ¼ã¨å¤Â").
add a comment |Â
up vote
0
down vote
According to A Dictionary of Basic Japanese Grammar, page 572:
ãÂÂã¤: a particle that indicates equal distribution of quantity.
Example(s):
ç§Âã¯åÂÂä¾ÂéÂÂã«æ‹ÂÂäºÂÃ¥ÂÂãÂÂã¤ãÂÂã£ãÂÂãÂÂ
I gave two books to each of the children.
[...]
A sentence without ãÂÂ㤠can express virtually the same fact.
æ¼ã¨å¤Âã®ï¼ÂÃ¥ÂÂ
2 times, one in the morning, another in the evening.
1
ã©ãÂÂãÂÂãÂÂã©ãÂÂã¾ã§ãÂÂè¾Âæ¸ãÂÂãÂÂã®å¼Âç¨ãÂÂãÂÂãÂÂãÂÂãÂÂãÂÂãÂÂã«ãÂÂã¦ãÂÂã ãÂÂãÂÂãÂÂã£ã¦è¨Âã£ã¦ãÂÂç¡è¦ÂãÂÂãÂÂãÂÂã§ãÂÂãÂÂãÂÂãÂÂ
â Chocolate
34 mins ago
add a comment |Â
2 Answers
2
active
oldest
votes
2 Answers
2
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
up vote
2
down vote
æ¼ã¨å¤Âã«2Ã¥ÂÂãÂÂ㤠is ambiguous, but usually means "twice in the afternoon and twice in the evening", i.e., four times a day.
æ¼ã¨å¤Âã®2Ã¥ÂÂãÂÂ㤠is not ambiguous and it only means "twice a day, one in the afternoon and one in the evening." Here ã® is an apposition marker, and 2å and æ¼ã¨夠are referring to the same thing. ãÂÂ㤠is used in relation to æÂÂ¥ before æ¼ã¨夠(it's "per day" rather than "per æ¼ã¨å¤Â").
add a comment |Â
up vote
2
down vote
æ¼ã¨å¤Âã«2Ã¥ÂÂãÂÂ㤠is ambiguous, but usually means "twice in the afternoon and twice in the evening", i.e., four times a day.
æ¼ã¨å¤Âã®2Ã¥ÂÂãÂÂ㤠is not ambiguous and it only means "twice a day, one in the afternoon and one in the evening." Here ã® is an apposition marker, and 2å and æ¼ã¨夠are referring to the same thing. ãÂÂ㤠is used in relation to æÂÂ¥ before æ¼ã¨夠(it's "per day" rather than "per æ¼ã¨å¤Â").
add a comment |Â
up vote
2
down vote
up vote
2
down vote
æ¼ã¨å¤Âã«2Ã¥ÂÂãÂÂ㤠is ambiguous, but usually means "twice in the afternoon and twice in the evening", i.e., four times a day.
æ¼ã¨å¤Âã®2Ã¥ÂÂãÂÂ㤠is not ambiguous and it only means "twice a day, one in the afternoon and one in the evening." Here ã® is an apposition marker, and 2å and æ¼ã¨夠are referring to the same thing. ãÂÂ㤠is used in relation to æÂÂ¥ before æ¼ã¨夠(it's "per day" rather than "per æ¼ã¨å¤Â").
æ¼ã¨å¤Âã«2Ã¥ÂÂãÂÂ㤠is ambiguous, but usually means "twice in the afternoon and twice in the evening", i.e., four times a day.
æ¼ã¨å¤Âã®2Ã¥ÂÂãÂÂ㤠is not ambiguous and it only means "twice a day, one in the afternoon and one in the evening." Here ã® is an apposition marker, and 2å and æ¼ã¨夠are referring to the same thing. ãÂÂ㤠is used in relation to æÂÂ¥ before æ¼ã¨夠(it's "per day" rather than "per æ¼ã¨å¤Â").
edited 3 hours ago
answered 3 hours ago
naruto
141k8129252
141k8129252
add a comment |Â
add a comment |Â
up vote
0
down vote
According to A Dictionary of Basic Japanese Grammar, page 572:
ãÂÂã¤: a particle that indicates equal distribution of quantity.
Example(s):
ç§Âã¯åÂÂä¾ÂéÂÂã«æ‹ÂÂäºÂÃ¥ÂÂãÂÂã¤ãÂÂã£ãÂÂãÂÂ
I gave two books to each of the children.
[...]
A sentence without ãÂÂ㤠can express virtually the same fact.
æ¼ã¨å¤Âã®ï¼ÂÃ¥ÂÂ
2 times, one in the morning, another in the evening.
1
ã©ãÂÂãÂÂãÂÂã©ãÂÂã¾ã§ãÂÂè¾Âæ¸ãÂÂãÂÂã®å¼Âç¨ãÂÂãÂÂãÂÂãÂÂãÂÂãÂÂãÂÂã«ãÂÂã¦ãÂÂã ãÂÂãÂÂãÂÂã£ã¦è¨Âã£ã¦ãÂÂç¡è¦ÂãÂÂãÂÂãÂÂã§ãÂÂãÂÂãÂÂãÂÂ
â Chocolate
34 mins ago
add a comment |Â
up vote
0
down vote
According to A Dictionary of Basic Japanese Grammar, page 572:
ãÂÂã¤: a particle that indicates equal distribution of quantity.
Example(s):
ç§Âã¯åÂÂä¾ÂéÂÂã«æ‹ÂÂäºÂÃ¥ÂÂãÂÂã¤ãÂÂã£ãÂÂãÂÂ
I gave two books to each of the children.
[...]
A sentence without ãÂÂ㤠can express virtually the same fact.
æ¼ã¨å¤Âã®ï¼ÂÃ¥ÂÂ
2 times, one in the morning, another in the evening.
1
ã©ãÂÂãÂÂãÂÂã©ãÂÂã¾ã§ãÂÂè¾Âæ¸ãÂÂãÂÂã®å¼Âç¨ãÂÂãÂÂãÂÂãÂÂãÂÂãÂÂãÂÂã«ãÂÂã¦ãÂÂã ãÂÂãÂÂãÂÂã£ã¦è¨Âã£ã¦ãÂÂç¡è¦ÂãÂÂãÂÂãÂÂã§ãÂÂãÂÂãÂÂãÂÂ
â Chocolate
34 mins ago
add a comment |Â
up vote
0
down vote
up vote
0
down vote
According to A Dictionary of Basic Japanese Grammar, page 572:
ãÂÂã¤: a particle that indicates equal distribution of quantity.
Example(s):
ç§Âã¯åÂÂä¾ÂéÂÂã«æ‹ÂÂäºÂÃ¥ÂÂãÂÂã¤ãÂÂã£ãÂÂãÂÂ
I gave two books to each of the children.
[...]
A sentence without ãÂÂ㤠can express virtually the same fact.
æ¼ã¨å¤Âã®ï¼ÂÃ¥ÂÂ
2 times, one in the morning, another in the evening.
According to A Dictionary of Basic Japanese Grammar, page 572:
ãÂÂã¤: a particle that indicates equal distribution of quantity.
Example(s):
ç§Âã¯åÂÂä¾ÂéÂÂã«æ‹ÂÂäºÂÃ¥ÂÂãÂÂã¤ãÂÂã£ãÂÂãÂÂ
I gave two books to each of the children.
[...]
A sentence without ãÂÂ㤠can express virtually the same fact.
æ¼ã¨å¤Âã®ï¼ÂÃ¥ÂÂ
2 times, one in the morning, another in the evening.
edited 59 mins ago
Chocolate
42.4k453108
42.4k453108
answered 5 hours ago
hisao m
3,09136
3,09136
1
ã©ãÂÂãÂÂãÂÂã©ãÂÂã¾ã§ãÂÂè¾Âæ¸ãÂÂãÂÂã®å¼Âç¨ãÂÂãÂÂãÂÂãÂÂãÂÂãÂÂãÂÂã«ãÂÂã¦ãÂÂã ãÂÂãÂÂãÂÂã£ã¦è¨Âã£ã¦ãÂÂç¡è¦ÂãÂÂãÂÂãÂÂã§ãÂÂãÂÂãÂÂãÂÂ
â Chocolate
34 mins ago
add a comment |Â
1
ã©ãÂÂãÂÂãÂÂã©ãÂÂã¾ã§ãÂÂè¾Âæ¸ãÂÂãÂÂã®å¼Âç¨ãÂÂãÂÂãÂÂãÂÂãÂÂãÂÂãÂÂã«ãÂÂã¦ãÂÂã ãÂÂãÂÂãÂÂã£ã¦è¨Âã£ã¦ãÂÂç¡è¦ÂãÂÂãÂÂãÂÂã§ãÂÂãÂÂãÂÂãÂÂ
â Chocolate
34 mins ago
1
1
ã©ãÂÂãÂÂãÂÂã©ãÂÂã¾ã§ãÂÂè¾Âæ¸ãÂÂãÂÂã®å¼Âç¨ãÂÂãÂÂãÂÂãÂÂãÂÂãÂÂãÂÂã«ãÂÂã¦ãÂÂã ãÂÂãÂÂãÂÂã£ã¦è¨Âã£ã¦ãÂÂç¡è¦ÂãÂÂãÂÂãÂÂã§ãÂÂãÂÂãÂÂãÂÂ
â Chocolate
34 mins ago
ã©ãÂÂãÂÂãÂÂã©ãÂÂã¾ã§ãÂÂè¾Âæ¸ãÂÂãÂÂã®å¼Âç¨ãÂÂãÂÂãÂÂãÂÂãÂÂãÂÂãÂÂã«ãÂÂã¦ãÂÂã ãÂÂãÂÂãÂÂã£ã¦è¨Âã£ã¦ãÂÂç¡è¦ÂãÂÂãÂÂãÂÂã§ãÂÂãÂÂãÂÂãÂÂ
â Chocolate
34 mins ago
add a comment |Â
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function ()
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
);
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
StackExchange.ready(
function ()
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fjapanese.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f62055%2fconfusing-use-of-%25e3%2581%259a%25e3%2581%25a4%23new-answer', 'question_page');
);
Post as a guest
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function ()
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
);
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function ()
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
);
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function ()
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
);
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password