How do the aliens maintain their transformations, even after they die?
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So, in my story there is a species of aliens, called the KoâÂÂdor. The KoâÂÂdor are a species of shape-shifters, who can change their forms at will. Naturally, they are four-eyed, green octopus like creatures. But, they have the ability to morph and change to human, or any other species's, shape. But, to the KoâÂÂdor, shape-shifting takes a lot of muscle bending and skin folding.
A KoâÂÂdor spy has just entered your spaceship. The KoâÂÂdor is unnoticed at first, but once he accidentally spills over a salt tin in his quarters, he dies. I canâÂÂt let my main characters know the spy is there yet, so the KoâÂÂdor has to stay in his human form, even while dead.
Since muscles normally relax after death, why might KoâÂÂdor biology allow them to stay in shapeshifted form, even while dead?
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So, in my story there is a species of aliens, called the KoâÂÂdor. The KoâÂÂdor are a species of shape-shifters, who can change their forms at will. Naturally, they are four-eyed, green octopus like creatures. But, they have the ability to morph and change to human, or any other species's, shape. But, to the KoâÂÂdor, shape-shifting takes a lot of muscle bending and skin folding.
A KoâÂÂdor spy has just entered your spaceship. The KoâÂÂdor is unnoticed at first, but once he accidentally spills over a salt tin in his quarters, he dies. I canâÂÂt let my main characters know the spy is there yet, so the KoâÂÂdor has to stay in his human form, even while dead.
Since muscles normally relax after death, why might KoâÂÂdor biology allow them to stay in shapeshifted form, even while dead?
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KoâÂÂdor biology works differently than Earth biology; one way this is manifested is that the default muscle state iscontraction.
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So, in my story there is a species of aliens, called the KoâÂÂdor. The KoâÂÂdor are a species of shape-shifters, who can change their forms at will. Naturally, they are four-eyed, green octopus like creatures. But, they have the ability to morph and change to human, or any other species's, shape. But, to the KoâÂÂdor, shape-shifting takes a lot of muscle bending and skin folding.
A KoâÂÂdor spy has just entered your spaceship. The KoâÂÂdor is unnoticed at first, but once he accidentally spills over a salt tin in his quarters, he dies. I canâÂÂt let my main characters know the spy is there yet, so the KoâÂÂdor has to stay in his human form, even while dead.
Since muscles normally relax after death, why might KoâÂÂdor biology allow them to stay in shapeshifted form, even while dead?
aliens xenobiology shapeshifters
So, in my story there is a species of aliens, called the KoâÂÂdor. The KoâÂÂdor are a species of shape-shifters, who can change their forms at will. Naturally, they are four-eyed, green octopus like creatures. But, they have the ability to morph and change to human, or any other species's, shape. But, to the KoâÂÂdor, shape-shifting takes a lot of muscle bending and skin folding.
A KoâÂÂdor spy has just entered your spaceship. The KoâÂÂdor is unnoticed at first, but once he accidentally spills over a salt tin in his quarters, he dies. I canâÂÂt let my main characters know the spy is there yet, so the KoâÂÂdor has to stay in his human form, even while dead.
Since muscles normally relax after death, why might KoâÂÂdor biology allow them to stay in shapeshifted form, even while dead?
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aliens xenobiology shapeshifters
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KoâÂÂdor biology works differently than Earth biology; one way this is manifested is that the default muscle state iscontraction.
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KoâÂÂdor biology works differently than Earth biology; one way this is manifested is that the default muscle state iscontraction.
â RonJohn
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KoâÂÂdor biology works differently than Earth biology; one way this is manifested is that the default muscle state iscontraction.
â RonJohn
3 hours ago
KoâÂÂdor biology works differently than Earth biology; one way this is manifested is that the default muscle state iscontraction.
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Your Ko'dor aliens need a voluntary physical effort to change shape. If they donôt activate the muscles and the skin to return to their original shape, the process wonôt happen. That is an evolutionary advantage, because if they are left unconscious or if they sleep, they mantain their current modified shape. The only way to know they are not humans is by means of an X-Ray scan, a blood sample, or a trained dog (the dog will immediately sense the different smell).
What are some evolutionary reasons why the KoâÂÂdor would develop this ability? I still need some help in that
â Robert Paul
1 hour ago
@RobertPaul That sounds like it would be better asked in a separate question.
â Sydney Sleeper
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I suppose that, after death, there is no longer an evolutionary advantage in anything. But if they shape-shift to fit into a tight space, for instance, and they lose consciousness, they would no longer 'fit' and probably die. Those organisms that stay in the same shape, even when unconscious, have a better survival rate than those who return to their natural state and thus negate the safety factor that they had when they shape-shifted to avoid a hazard in the first place.
â Justin Thyme
42 mins ago
A human might notice a sufficiently octopodian odor as well!
â elemtilas
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KoâÂÂdor's body is like a piece of paper, and their assumed forms are like origami figures. Even after they die, they stay in their latest shape.
How does this relate to a shapeshifting creature using the mechanisms the OP has described? The OP describes use of muscles and skin folds, their skin is not paper.
â John Locke
22 mins ago
Surely origami & paper are analogies for the Kod'ors' muscular tissues? The external process appears somewhat origamilike, but the actual work is done by muscles & connective tissues & probably some cellular level fluid pumps & pigment arrays.
â elemtilas
39 secs ago
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Rigor mortise sets in immediately with this alien biology.
The muscles loosening up is a uniquely earth-bound biological mechanism. No need to posit that it HAS to happen with aliens. Their muscles could immediately stiffen, due to the enzymes that allow the extreme flexibility of the muscles no longer being effective in death. The enzymes are no longer biologically active, the muscles immediately freeze up.
Since I assume the Ko'dor have no bones, I can't see any particular necessity for them to return to their 'natural' shape.
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Your Ko'dor aliens need a voluntary physical effort to change shape. If they donôt activate the muscles and the skin to return to their original shape, the process wonôt happen. That is an evolutionary advantage, because if they are left unconscious or if they sleep, they mantain their current modified shape. The only way to know they are not humans is by means of an X-Ray scan, a blood sample, or a trained dog (the dog will immediately sense the different smell).
What are some evolutionary reasons why the KoâÂÂdor would develop this ability? I still need some help in that
â Robert Paul
1 hour ago
@RobertPaul That sounds like it would be better asked in a separate question.
â Sydney Sleeper
44 mins ago
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I suppose that, after death, there is no longer an evolutionary advantage in anything. But if they shape-shift to fit into a tight space, for instance, and they lose consciousness, they would no longer 'fit' and probably die. Those organisms that stay in the same shape, even when unconscious, have a better survival rate than those who return to their natural state and thus negate the safety factor that they had when they shape-shifted to avoid a hazard in the first place.
â Justin Thyme
42 mins ago
A human might notice a sufficiently octopodian odor as well!
â elemtilas
4 mins ago
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up vote
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Your Ko'dor aliens need a voluntary physical effort to change shape. If they donôt activate the muscles and the skin to return to their original shape, the process wonôt happen. That is an evolutionary advantage, because if they are left unconscious or if they sleep, they mantain their current modified shape. The only way to know they are not humans is by means of an X-Ray scan, a blood sample, or a trained dog (the dog will immediately sense the different smell).
What are some evolutionary reasons why the KoâÂÂdor would develop this ability? I still need some help in that
â Robert Paul
1 hour ago
@RobertPaul That sounds like it would be better asked in a separate question.
â Sydney Sleeper
44 mins ago
1
I suppose that, after death, there is no longer an evolutionary advantage in anything. But if they shape-shift to fit into a tight space, for instance, and they lose consciousness, they would no longer 'fit' and probably die. Those organisms that stay in the same shape, even when unconscious, have a better survival rate than those who return to their natural state and thus negate the safety factor that they had when they shape-shifted to avoid a hazard in the first place.
â Justin Thyme
42 mins ago
A human might notice a sufficiently octopodian odor as well!
â elemtilas
4 mins ago
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2
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up vote
2
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Your Ko'dor aliens need a voluntary physical effort to change shape. If they donôt activate the muscles and the skin to return to their original shape, the process wonôt happen. That is an evolutionary advantage, because if they are left unconscious or if they sleep, they mantain their current modified shape. The only way to know they are not humans is by means of an X-Ray scan, a blood sample, or a trained dog (the dog will immediately sense the different smell).
Your Ko'dor aliens need a voluntary physical effort to change shape. If they donôt activate the muscles and the skin to return to their original shape, the process wonôt happen. That is an evolutionary advantage, because if they are left unconscious or if they sleep, they mantain their current modified shape. The only way to know they are not humans is by means of an X-Ray scan, a blood sample, or a trained dog (the dog will immediately sense the different smell).
answered 2 hours ago
Carlos Zamora
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What are some evolutionary reasons why the KoâÂÂdor would develop this ability? I still need some help in that
â Robert Paul
1 hour ago
@RobertPaul That sounds like it would be better asked in a separate question.
â Sydney Sleeper
44 mins ago
1
I suppose that, after death, there is no longer an evolutionary advantage in anything. But if they shape-shift to fit into a tight space, for instance, and they lose consciousness, they would no longer 'fit' and probably die. Those organisms that stay in the same shape, even when unconscious, have a better survival rate than those who return to their natural state and thus negate the safety factor that they had when they shape-shifted to avoid a hazard in the first place.
â Justin Thyme
42 mins ago
A human might notice a sufficiently octopodian odor as well!
â elemtilas
4 mins ago
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What are some evolutionary reasons why the KoâÂÂdor would develop this ability? I still need some help in that
â Robert Paul
1 hour ago
@RobertPaul That sounds like it would be better asked in a separate question.
â Sydney Sleeper
44 mins ago
1
I suppose that, after death, there is no longer an evolutionary advantage in anything. But if they shape-shift to fit into a tight space, for instance, and they lose consciousness, they would no longer 'fit' and probably die. Those organisms that stay in the same shape, even when unconscious, have a better survival rate than those who return to their natural state and thus negate the safety factor that they had when they shape-shifted to avoid a hazard in the first place.
â Justin Thyme
42 mins ago
A human might notice a sufficiently octopodian odor as well!
â elemtilas
4 mins ago
What are some evolutionary reasons why the KoâÂÂdor would develop this ability? I still need some help in that
â Robert Paul
1 hour ago
What are some evolutionary reasons why the KoâÂÂdor would develop this ability? I still need some help in that
â Robert Paul
1 hour ago
@RobertPaul That sounds like it would be better asked in a separate question.
â Sydney Sleeper
44 mins ago
@RobertPaul That sounds like it would be better asked in a separate question.
â Sydney Sleeper
44 mins ago
1
1
I suppose that, after death, there is no longer an evolutionary advantage in anything. But if they shape-shift to fit into a tight space, for instance, and they lose consciousness, they would no longer 'fit' and probably die. Those organisms that stay in the same shape, even when unconscious, have a better survival rate than those who return to their natural state and thus negate the safety factor that they had when they shape-shifted to avoid a hazard in the first place.
â Justin Thyme
42 mins ago
I suppose that, after death, there is no longer an evolutionary advantage in anything. But if they shape-shift to fit into a tight space, for instance, and they lose consciousness, they would no longer 'fit' and probably die. Those organisms that stay in the same shape, even when unconscious, have a better survival rate than those who return to their natural state and thus negate the safety factor that they had when they shape-shifted to avoid a hazard in the first place.
â Justin Thyme
42 mins ago
A human might notice a sufficiently octopodian odor as well!
â elemtilas
4 mins ago
A human might notice a sufficiently octopodian odor as well!
â elemtilas
4 mins ago
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KoâÂÂdor's body is like a piece of paper, and their assumed forms are like origami figures. Even after they die, they stay in their latest shape.
How does this relate to a shapeshifting creature using the mechanisms the OP has described? The OP describes use of muscles and skin folds, their skin is not paper.
â John Locke
22 mins ago
Surely origami & paper are analogies for the Kod'ors' muscular tissues? The external process appears somewhat origamilike, but the actual work is done by muscles & connective tissues & probably some cellular level fluid pumps & pigment arrays.
â elemtilas
39 secs ago
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up vote
1
down vote
KoâÂÂdor's body is like a piece of paper, and their assumed forms are like origami figures. Even after they die, they stay in their latest shape.
How does this relate to a shapeshifting creature using the mechanisms the OP has described? The OP describes use of muscles and skin folds, their skin is not paper.
â John Locke
22 mins ago
Surely origami & paper are analogies for the Kod'ors' muscular tissues? The external process appears somewhat origamilike, but the actual work is done by muscles & connective tissues & probably some cellular level fluid pumps & pigment arrays.
â elemtilas
39 secs ago
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up vote
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up vote
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KoâÂÂdor's body is like a piece of paper, and their assumed forms are like origami figures. Even after they die, they stay in their latest shape.
KoâÂÂdor's body is like a piece of paper, and their assumed forms are like origami figures. Even after they die, they stay in their latest shape.
answered 3 hours ago
Alexander
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How does this relate to a shapeshifting creature using the mechanisms the OP has described? The OP describes use of muscles and skin folds, their skin is not paper.
â John Locke
22 mins ago
Surely origami & paper are analogies for the Kod'ors' muscular tissues? The external process appears somewhat origamilike, but the actual work is done by muscles & connective tissues & probably some cellular level fluid pumps & pigment arrays.
â elemtilas
39 secs ago
add a comment |Â
How does this relate to a shapeshifting creature using the mechanisms the OP has described? The OP describes use of muscles and skin folds, their skin is not paper.
â John Locke
22 mins ago
Surely origami & paper are analogies for the Kod'ors' muscular tissues? The external process appears somewhat origamilike, but the actual work is done by muscles & connective tissues & probably some cellular level fluid pumps & pigment arrays.
â elemtilas
39 secs ago
How does this relate to a shapeshifting creature using the mechanisms the OP has described? The OP describes use of muscles and skin folds, their skin is not paper.
â John Locke
22 mins ago
How does this relate to a shapeshifting creature using the mechanisms the OP has described? The OP describes use of muscles and skin folds, their skin is not paper.
â John Locke
22 mins ago
Surely origami & paper are analogies for the Kod'ors' muscular tissues? The external process appears somewhat origamilike, but the actual work is done by muscles & connective tissues & probably some cellular level fluid pumps & pigment arrays.
â elemtilas
39 secs ago
Surely origami & paper are analogies for the Kod'ors' muscular tissues? The external process appears somewhat origamilike, but the actual work is done by muscles & connective tissues & probably some cellular level fluid pumps & pigment arrays.
â elemtilas
39 secs ago
add a comment |Â
up vote
1
down vote
Rigor mortise sets in immediately with this alien biology.
The muscles loosening up is a uniquely earth-bound biological mechanism. No need to posit that it HAS to happen with aliens. Their muscles could immediately stiffen, due to the enzymes that allow the extreme flexibility of the muscles no longer being effective in death. The enzymes are no longer biologically active, the muscles immediately freeze up.
Since I assume the Ko'dor have no bones, I can't see any particular necessity for them to return to their 'natural' shape.
add a comment |Â
up vote
1
down vote
Rigor mortise sets in immediately with this alien biology.
The muscles loosening up is a uniquely earth-bound biological mechanism. No need to posit that it HAS to happen with aliens. Their muscles could immediately stiffen, due to the enzymes that allow the extreme flexibility of the muscles no longer being effective in death. The enzymes are no longer biologically active, the muscles immediately freeze up.
Since I assume the Ko'dor have no bones, I can't see any particular necessity for them to return to their 'natural' shape.
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up vote
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Rigor mortise sets in immediately with this alien biology.
The muscles loosening up is a uniquely earth-bound biological mechanism. No need to posit that it HAS to happen with aliens. Their muscles could immediately stiffen, due to the enzymes that allow the extreme flexibility of the muscles no longer being effective in death. The enzymes are no longer biologically active, the muscles immediately freeze up.
Since I assume the Ko'dor have no bones, I can't see any particular necessity for them to return to their 'natural' shape.
Rigor mortise sets in immediately with this alien biology.
The muscles loosening up is a uniquely earth-bound biological mechanism. No need to posit that it HAS to happen with aliens. Their muscles could immediately stiffen, due to the enzymes that allow the extreme flexibility of the muscles no longer being effective in death. The enzymes are no longer biologically active, the muscles immediately freeze up.
Since I assume the Ko'dor have no bones, I can't see any particular necessity for them to return to their 'natural' shape.
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KoâÂÂdor biology works differently than Earth biology; one way this is manifested is that the default muscle state iscontraction.
â RonJohn
3 hours ago