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Assuming two cables both conform to the same standards (e.g. HDMI2.0, high-speed, ...) is it possible that a premium cable will outperform a standard cable when using an objective benchmark that measures the quality of picture/audio? Or what experiment would show that a premium cable has a benefit over an 'ordinary' cable?
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Assuming two cables both conform to the same standards (e.g. HDMI2.0, high-speed, ...) is it possible that a premium cable will outperform a standard cable when using an objective benchmark that measures the quality of picture/audio? Or what experiment would show that a premium cable has a benefit over an 'ordinary' cable?
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When using a subjective measure, almost anything is possible. (-:
– Jim Mack
5 hours ago
I hope this doesn't get closed. It raises issues related to high-speed cabling in general that also apply to things like eSATA, USB SuperSpeed, Ethernet, PCIe, etc.
– Dave Tweed♦
5 hours ago
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I don't mean to be defensive, but I don't think that this question is about use of electronic devices. Look at the currently leading answer to see how technical and engineering-related this topic is.
– zr.
4 hours ago
Define "premium cable" and "standard cable". With technical terms.
– Chupacabras
3 hours ago
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@Chupacabras: See my answer. "Standard" cable is built just well enough to meet the given specifications at the given length(s).
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39 mins ago
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Assuming two cables both conform to the same standards (e.g. HDMI2.0, high-speed, ...) is it possible that a premium cable will outperform a standard cable when using an objective benchmark that measures the quality of picture/audio? Or what experiment would show that a premium cable has a benefit over an 'ordinary' cable?
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When using a subjective measure, almost anything is possible. (-:
– Jim Mack
5 hours ago
I hope this doesn't get closed. It raises issues related to high-speed cabling in general that also apply to things like eSATA, USB SuperSpeed, Ethernet, PCIe, etc.
– Dave Tweed♦
5 hours ago
1
I don't mean to be defensive, but I don't think that this question is about use of electronic devices. Look at the currently leading answer to see how technical and engineering-related this topic is.
– zr.
4 hours ago
Define "premium cable" and "standard cable". With technical terms.
– Chupacabras
3 hours ago
1
@Chupacabras: See my answer. "Standard" cable is built just well enough to meet the given specifications at the given length(s).
– Dave Tweed♦
39 mins ago
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2
When using a subjective measure, almost anything is possible. (-:
– Jim Mack
5 hours ago
I hope this doesn't get closed. It raises issues related to high-speed cabling in general that also apply to things like eSATA, USB SuperSpeed, Ethernet, PCIe, etc.
– Dave Tweed♦
5 hours ago
1
I don't mean to be defensive, but I don't think that this question is about use of electronic devices. Look at the currently leading answer to see how technical and engineering-related this topic is.
– zr.
4 hours ago
Define "premium cable" and "standard cable". With technical terms.
– Chupacabras
3 hours ago
1
@Chupacabras: See my answer. "Standard" cable is built just well enough to meet the given specifications at the given length(s).
– Dave Tweed♦
39 mins ago
2
2
When using a subjective measure, almost anything is possible. (-:
– Jim Mack
5 hours ago
When using a subjective measure, almost anything is possible. (-:
– Jim Mack
5 hours ago
I hope this doesn't get closed. It raises issues related to high-speed cabling in general that also apply to things like eSATA, USB SuperSpeed, Ethernet, PCIe, etc.
– Dave Tweed♦
5 hours ago
I hope this doesn't get closed. It raises issues related to high-speed cabling in general that also apply to things like eSATA, USB SuperSpeed, Ethernet, PCIe, etc.
– Dave Tweed♦
5 hours ago
1
1
I don't mean to be defensive, but I don't think that this question is about use of electronic devices. Look at the currently leading answer to see how technical and engineering-related this topic is.
– zr.
4 hours ago
I don't mean to be defensive, but I don't think that this question is about use of electronic devices. Look at the currently leading answer to see how technical and engineering-related this topic is.
– zr.
4 hours ago
Define "premium cable" and "standard cable". With technical terms.
– Chupacabras
3 hours ago
Define "premium cable" and "standard cable". With technical terms.
– Chupacabras
3 hours ago
1
1
@Chupacabras: See my answer. "Standard" cable is built just well enough to meet the given specifications at the given length(s).
– Dave Tweed♦
39 mins ago
@Chupacabras: See my answer. "Standard" cable is built just well enough to meet the given specifications at the given length(s).
– Dave Tweed♦
39 mins ago
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You would do a BERT (bit error rate test) on the cable. Better yet, look at the eye diagram at the far end of the cable.
HDMI is a digital format, which means that there's a threshold effect — cable quality does not directly affect the picture quality until it gets so bad that it actually causes bit errors.
"Premium" cable is (supposedly) built to tighter tolerances (reduced ISI), with thicker wire (reduced attenuation) and/or with better shielding (reduced external interference) so that you can have longer runs of it before that starts to happen.
answered 6 hours ago
Dave Tweed♦
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If the cables actually conform to the standards specified, then there will be no difference between a "premium" or "ordinary" cable, since the signals in question are digital.
However, in reality you may find cables that do not conform to the standard that are advertised otherwise.
answered 6 hours ago
Shamtam
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Standards imply a guarantee of minimum performance. One cable can certainly differ from another at the high end.
– Scott Seidman
6 hours ago
@ScottSeidman Yes, I absolutely agree. I guess I implicitly made the assumption that the user would be operating the cables within their rated limits, but we both know that's not always the case :)
– Shamtam
4 hours ago
@ScottSeidman even the minimum is enough because it complies the specification and its tolerances.
– Chupacabras
3 hours ago
@Chupacabras what was asked was "can one cable outperform another?" Not "will both cables meet the minimum standard?"
– Scott Seidman
2 hours ago
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I agree with it to, @Chupacabras -- but it doesn't address the question being asked.
– Scott Seidman
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For a reasonable cable length (say less than a few meters) no difference will be seen, you'll only stress the cable/EQ system when you stretch into several meters.
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3 Answers
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up vote
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You would do a BERT (bit error rate test) on the cable. Better yet, look at the eye diagram at the far end of the cable.
HDMI is a digital format, which means that there's a threshold effect — cable quality does not directly affect the picture quality until it gets so bad that it actually causes bit errors.
"Premium" cable is (supposedly) built to tighter tolerances (reduced ISI), with thicker wire (reduced attenuation) and/or with better shielding (reduced external interference) so that you can have longer runs of it before that starts to happen.
answered 6 hours ago
Dave Tweed♦
111k9132240
add a comment |Â
up vote
6
down vote
You would do a BERT (bit error rate test) on the cable. Better yet, look at the eye diagram at the far end of the cable.
HDMI is a digital format, which means that there's a threshold effect — cable quality does not directly affect the picture quality until it gets so bad that it actually causes bit errors.
"Premium" cable is (supposedly) built to tighter tolerances (reduced ISI), with thicker wire (reduced attenuation) and/or with better shielding (reduced external interference) so that you can have longer runs of it before that starts to happen.
answered 6 hours ago
Dave Tweed♦
111k9132240
add a comment |Â
up vote
6
down vote
up vote
6
down vote
You would do a BERT (bit error rate test) on the cable. Better yet, look at the eye diagram at the far end of the cable.
HDMI is a digital format, which means that there's a threshold effect — cable quality does not directly affect the picture quality until it gets so bad that it actually causes bit errors.
"Premium" cable is (supposedly) built to tighter tolerances (reduced ISI), with thicker wire (reduced attenuation) and/or with better shielding (reduced external interference) so that you can have longer runs of it before that starts to happen.
answered 6 hours ago
Dave Tweed♦
111k9132240
You would do a BERT (bit error rate test) on the cable. Better yet, look at the eye diagram at the far end of the cable.
HDMI is a digital format, which means that there's a threshold effect — cable quality does not directly affect the picture quality until it gets so bad that it actually causes bit errors.
"Premium" cable is (supposedly) built to tighter tolerances (reduced ISI), with thicker wire (reduced attenuation) and/or with better shielding (reduced external interference) so that you can have longer runs of it before that starts to happen.
answered 6 hours ago
Dave Tweed♦
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If the cables actually conform to the standards specified, then there will be no difference between a "premium" or "ordinary" cable, since the signals in question are digital.
However, in reality you may find cables that do not conform to the standard that are advertised otherwise.
answered 6 hours ago
Shamtam
1,9781021
3
Standards imply a guarantee of minimum performance. One cable can certainly differ from another at the high end.
– Scott Seidman
6 hours ago
@ScottSeidman Yes, I absolutely agree. I guess I implicitly made the assumption that the user would be operating the cables within their rated limits, but we both know that's not always the case :)
– Shamtam
4 hours ago
@ScottSeidman even the minimum is enough because it complies the specification and its tolerances.
– Chupacabras
3 hours ago
@Chupacabras what was asked was "can one cable outperform another?" Not "will both cables meet the minimum standard?"
– Scott Seidman
2 hours ago
1
I agree with it to, @Chupacabras -- but it doesn't address the question being asked.
– Scott Seidman
1 hour ago
 |Â
show 1 more comment
up vote
2
down vote
If the cables actually conform to the standards specified, then there will be no difference between a "premium" or "ordinary" cable, since the signals in question are digital.
However, in reality you may find cables that do not conform to the standard that are advertised otherwise.
answered 6 hours ago
Shamtam
1,9781021
3
Standards imply a guarantee of minimum performance. One cable can certainly differ from another at the high end.
– Scott Seidman
6 hours ago
@ScottSeidman Yes, I absolutely agree. I guess I implicitly made the assumption that the user would be operating the cables within their rated limits, but we both know that's not always the case :)
– Shamtam
4 hours ago
@ScottSeidman even the minimum is enough because it complies the specification and its tolerances.
– Chupacabras
3 hours ago
@Chupacabras what was asked was "can one cable outperform another?" Not "will both cables meet the minimum standard?"
– Scott Seidman
2 hours ago
1
I agree with it to, @Chupacabras -- but it doesn't address the question being asked.
– Scott Seidman
1 hour ago
 |Â
show 1 more comment
up vote
2
down vote
up vote
2
down vote
If the cables actually conform to the standards specified, then there will be no difference between a "premium" or "ordinary" cable, since the signals in question are digital.
However, in reality you may find cables that do not conform to the standard that are advertised otherwise.
answered 6 hours ago
Shamtam
1,9781021
If the cables actually conform to the standards specified, then there will be no difference between a "premium" or "ordinary" cable, since the signals in question are digital.
However, in reality you may find cables that do not conform to the standard that are advertised otherwise.
answered 6 hours ago
Shamtam
1,9781021
answered 6 hours ago
Shamtam
1,9781021
answered 6 hours ago
Shamtam
1,9781021
answered 6 hours ago
Shamtam
1,9781021
1,9781021
3
Standards imply a guarantee of minimum performance. One cable can certainly differ from another at the high end.
– Scott Seidman
6 hours ago
@ScottSeidman Yes, I absolutely agree. I guess I implicitly made the assumption that the user would be operating the cables within their rated limits, but we both know that's not always the case :)
– Shamtam
4 hours ago
@ScottSeidman even the minimum is enough because it complies the specification and its tolerances.
– Chupacabras
3 hours ago
@Chupacabras what was asked was "can one cable outperform another?" Not "will both cables meet the minimum standard?"
– Scott Seidman
2 hours ago
1
I agree with it to, @Chupacabras -- but it doesn't address the question being asked.
– Scott Seidman
1 hour ago
 |Â
show 1 more comment
3
Standards imply a guarantee of minimum performance. One cable can certainly differ from another at the high end.
– Scott Seidman
6 hours ago
@ScottSeidman Yes, I absolutely agree. I guess I implicitly made the assumption that the user would be operating the cables within their rated limits, but we both know that's not always the case :)
– Shamtam
4 hours ago
@ScottSeidman even the minimum is enough because it complies the specification and its tolerances.
– Chupacabras
3 hours ago
@Chupacabras what was asked was "can one cable outperform another?" Not "will both cables meet the minimum standard?"
– Scott Seidman
2 hours ago
1
I agree with it to, @Chupacabras -- but it doesn't address the question being asked.
– Scott Seidman
1 hour ago
3
3
Standards imply a guarantee of minimum performance. One cable can certainly differ from another at the high end.
– Scott Seidman
6 hours ago
Standards imply a guarantee of minimum performance. One cable can certainly differ from another at the high end.
– Scott Seidman
6 hours ago
@ScottSeidman Yes, I absolutely agree. I guess I implicitly made the assumption that the user would be operating the cables within their rated limits, but we both know that's not always the case :)
– Shamtam
4 hours ago
@ScottSeidman Yes, I absolutely agree. I guess I implicitly made the assumption that the user would be operating the cables within their rated limits, but we both know that's not always the case :)
– Shamtam
4 hours ago
@ScottSeidman even the minimum is enough because it complies the specification and its tolerances.
– Chupacabras
3 hours ago
@ScottSeidman even the minimum is enough because it complies the specification and its tolerances.
– Chupacabras
3 hours ago
@Chupacabras what was asked was "can one cable outperform another?" Not "will both cables meet the minimum standard?"
– Scott Seidman
2 hours ago
@Chupacabras what was asked was "can one cable outperform another?" Not "will both cables meet the minimum standard?"
– Scott Seidman
2 hours ago
1
1
I agree with it to, @Chupacabras -- but it doesn't address the question being asked.
– Scott Seidman
1 hour ago
I agree with it to, @Chupacabras -- but it doesn't address the question being asked.
– Scott Seidman
1 hour ago
 |Â
show 1 more comment
up vote
0
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For a reasonable cable length (say less than a few meters) no difference will be seen, you'll only stress the cable/EQ system when you stretch into several meters.
answered 17 mins ago
amiando
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For a reasonable cable length (say less than a few meters) no difference will be seen, you'll only stress the cable/EQ system when you stretch into several meters.
answered 17 mins ago
amiando
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add a comment |Â
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0
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up vote
0
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For a reasonable cable length (say less than a few meters) no difference will be seen, you'll only stress the cable/EQ system when you stretch into several meters.
answered 17 mins ago
amiando
1
For a reasonable cable length (say less than a few meters) no difference will be seen, you'll only stress the cable/EQ system when you stretch into several meters.
answered 17 mins ago
amiando
1
answered 17 mins ago
amiando
1
answered 17 mins ago
amiando
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answered 17 mins ago
amiando
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2
When using a subjective measure, almost anything is possible. (-:
– Jim Mack
5 hours ago
I hope this doesn't get closed. It raises issues related to high-speed cabling in general that also apply to things like eSATA, USB SuperSpeed, Ethernet, PCIe, etc.
– Dave Tweed♦
5 hours ago
1
I don't mean to be defensive, but I don't think that this question is about use of electronic devices. Look at the currently leading answer to see how technical and engineering-related this topic is.
– zr.
4 hours ago
Define "premium cable" and "standard cable". With technical terms.
– Chupacabras
3 hours ago
1
@Chupacabras: See my answer. "Standard" cable is built just well enough to meet the given specifications at the given length(s).
– Dave Tweed♦
39 mins ago