Some science or graspable logic behind a whole new world below the ocean on earth

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So not trying to wander into flat earth theory here, But a hidden fantasy world (of elves) in the present day. How would we explain it. There is no contact whatsoever between the two world. Could there be some explanation having a tiny grain of reality / science/ logic in it without driving the whole thing into "on an alternative earth".










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So not trying to wander into flat earth theory here, But a hidden fantasy world (of elves) in the present day. How would we explain it. There is no contact whatsoever between the two world. Could there be some explanation having a tiny grain of reality / science/ logic in it without driving the whole thing into "on an alternative earth".










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I feel like I must recommend Jules Verne’s Journey to the Centre of the Earth
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Deep oceans are not very well explored, it is possible that a relatively a few small cities can be there without human knowledge.



You will need them to deliberately avoid exploration, and you need to eliminate accidental discovery.



To keep them from exploring, have religion (e.g. they were abused by surface dwellers in the past), or some survival constraint: UV rays hurt them, they have to stay near vents that provide them with some essential nutrient.



It would help if they are in the deep ocean, so they are far from shores, and cannot be accidentally discovered by fishermen or divers.



You also want both their bodies and their artifacts to sink to the bottom rather than float up. Giant squid were discovered mainly b/c they float up when they die.



In fact, make their materials and technology biologic in nature, so they rot soon after being discarded. This way you cannot have a stray fish swallow some broken or loose piece, and later turn up in a fisherman's net.






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    Before the flat earthers rose into the general consciousness, the crackpot theory of the day was the Hollow Earth.



    This particular theory was suggested by the otherwise laudable Edmund Halley in the 17th Century and lasted around 100 years before being comprehensively disproven in the late 18th Century. It then lasted in pseudoscience well into the 19th Century.



    Religion has long postulated the presence of hot underworlds where souls go after death. Halley formalised this into the concept of concentric shells separated by atmosphere.



    This would leave you with plenty of space for a hidden land of the Elves beneath ours, along with notable historic references for people suggesting it was true.






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      Deep oceans are not very well explored, it is possible that a relatively a few small cities can be there without human knowledge.



      You will need them to deliberately avoid exploration, and you need to eliminate accidental discovery.



      To keep them from exploring, have religion (e.g. they were abused by surface dwellers in the past), or some survival constraint: UV rays hurt them, they have to stay near vents that provide them with some essential nutrient.



      It would help if they are in the deep ocean, so they are far from shores, and cannot be accidentally discovered by fishermen or divers.



      You also want both their bodies and their artifacts to sink to the bottom rather than float up. Giant squid were discovered mainly b/c they float up when they die.



      In fact, make their materials and technology biologic in nature, so they rot soon after being discarded. This way you cannot have a stray fish swallow some broken or loose piece, and later turn up in a fisherman's net.






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        Deep oceans are not very well explored, it is possible that a relatively a few small cities can be there without human knowledge.



        You will need them to deliberately avoid exploration, and you need to eliminate accidental discovery.



        To keep them from exploring, have religion (e.g. they were abused by surface dwellers in the past), or some survival constraint: UV rays hurt them, they have to stay near vents that provide them with some essential nutrient.



        It would help if they are in the deep ocean, so they are far from shores, and cannot be accidentally discovered by fishermen or divers.



        You also want both their bodies and their artifacts to sink to the bottom rather than float up. Giant squid were discovered mainly b/c they float up when they die.



        In fact, make their materials and technology biologic in nature, so they rot soon after being discarded. This way you cannot have a stray fish swallow some broken or loose piece, and later turn up in a fisherman's net.






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          Deep oceans are not very well explored, it is possible that a relatively a few small cities can be there without human knowledge.



          You will need them to deliberately avoid exploration, and you need to eliminate accidental discovery.



          To keep them from exploring, have religion (e.g. they were abused by surface dwellers in the past), or some survival constraint: UV rays hurt them, they have to stay near vents that provide them with some essential nutrient.



          It would help if they are in the deep ocean, so they are far from shores, and cannot be accidentally discovered by fishermen or divers.



          You also want both their bodies and their artifacts to sink to the bottom rather than float up. Giant squid were discovered mainly b/c they float up when they die.



          In fact, make their materials and technology biologic in nature, so they rot soon after being discarded. This way you cannot have a stray fish swallow some broken or loose piece, and later turn up in a fisherman's net.






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          Deep oceans are not very well explored, it is possible that a relatively a few small cities can be there without human knowledge.



          You will need them to deliberately avoid exploration, and you need to eliminate accidental discovery.



          To keep them from exploring, have religion (e.g. they were abused by surface dwellers in the past), or some survival constraint: UV rays hurt them, they have to stay near vents that provide them with some essential nutrient.



          It would help if they are in the deep ocean, so they are far from shores, and cannot be accidentally discovered by fishermen or divers.



          You also want both their bodies and their artifacts to sink to the bottom rather than float up. Giant squid were discovered mainly b/c they float up when they die.



          In fact, make their materials and technology biologic in nature, so they rot soon after being discarded. This way you cannot have a stray fish swallow some broken or loose piece, and later turn up in a fisherman's net.







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              Before the flat earthers rose into the general consciousness, the crackpot theory of the day was the Hollow Earth.



              This particular theory was suggested by the otherwise laudable Edmund Halley in the 17th Century and lasted around 100 years before being comprehensively disproven in the late 18th Century. It then lasted in pseudoscience well into the 19th Century.



              Religion has long postulated the presence of hot underworlds where souls go after death. Halley formalised this into the concept of concentric shells separated by atmosphere.



              This would leave you with plenty of space for a hidden land of the Elves beneath ours, along with notable historic references for people suggesting it was true.






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                Before the flat earthers rose into the general consciousness, the crackpot theory of the day was the Hollow Earth.



                This particular theory was suggested by the otherwise laudable Edmund Halley in the 17th Century and lasted around 100 years before being comprehensively disproven in the late 18th Century. It then lasted in pseudoscience well into the 19th Century.



                Religion has long postulated the presence of hot underworlds where souls go after death. Halley formalised this into the concept of concentric shells separated by atmosphere.



                This would leave you with plenty of space for a hidden land of the Elves beneath ours, along with notable historic references for people suggesting it was true.






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                  Before the flat earthers rose into the general consciousness, the crackpot theory of the day was the Hollow Earth.



                  This particular theory was suggested by the otherwise laudable Edmund Halley in the 17th Century and lasted around 100 years before being comprehensively disproven in the late 18th Century. It then lasted in pseudoscience well into the 19th Century.



                  Religion has long postulated the presence of hot underworlds where souls go after death. Halley formalised this into the concept of concentric shells separated by atmosphere.



                  This would leave you with plenty of space for a hidden land of the Elves beneath ours, along with notable historic references for people suggesting it was true.






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                  Before the flat earthers rose into the general consciousness, the crackpot theory of the day was the Hollow Earth.



                  This particular theory was suggested by the otherwise laudable Edmund Halley in the 17th Century and lasted around 100 years before being comprehensively disproven in the late 18th Century. It then lasted in pseudoscience well into the 19th Century.



                  Religion has long postulated the presence of hot underworlds where souls go after death. Halley formalised this into the concept of concentric shells separated by atmosphere.



                  This would leave you with plenty of space for a hidden land of the Elves beneath ours, along with notable historic references for people suggesting it was true.







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