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My department has undergone radical transformations in the past few years, moving from 9 Regional departments to a set of geo-redundant departments, one in our headquarters on the East Coast, and one in the Southwest. Last year, they closed the last two of the regional offices, and consolidated the work to the two main groups. During the consolidation, they offered relocation packages including a 15% raise and 15k for relocation expenses, they also offered the same package to anyone in the two main groups that wanted to transfer to their corresponding group. I was ineligible at the time of the offer as I had not been in my current position for the pre-requisite year.

Why I want this

Personal reasons however have made it expedient for us to move however, I currently work in the Western group and commute between 1.5 and 3 hours as I live over 40 miles from our Western headquarters. This year it was also announced that our office would be moving even further away from me. On top of that, management has decided that business needs necessitate a change in our schedules which would make it impossible for me to be home consistently in the evenings, where I am needed with our 3 young kids. In short, we need to move, and soon. We've considered moving closer to our headquarters in the SW, however, it's a more expensive area than where we currently live, and we have family in the city on the East coast that we wouldn't mind being closer to.

In short, we need to be closer to work, and while the traffic is terrible on the East Coast, there are reasonable areas that I can afford with what I currently make (even without a cost of living raise). There are also several advantages to this company in terms of experience and benefits that make it hard to find a position with equal compensation elsewhere in my current city. Relocating would also place me closer to the next level in my career as the groups I am interested in moving into in the long-term are still only located on the East Coast and building relationships in those groups is a crucial part of that transition.

The response

I began putting out feelers through my director and a friend who is in the process of relocating to the East as he is moving from Supervisor in the West to Manager in the East. They reached out and while I wasn't shocked to find that the old offer is no longer available, however I was surprised to find out that there was nothing my department would do in terms of relocation. Going over it this week, it would be a minimum of 8k to relocate our family to the East coast, and this is not something we can take out of pocket as we've focused on paying off debts this year.

At this point I feel frustrated with the lack of support from my department, and the reasoning that "relocation is only given to management" frankly pisses me off. This has not always been the case, not only recently with the transformation, but historically these types of moves have been supported.

Points in my favor

1. There has been high turnover associated with the transformation
   -Our central office was staffed before with salaried specialists who handled platform specific functions, and those roles are now being moved to more specialized groups of which we are not a part of
   -The majority of those who took relocation packages from our regional offices have left to do bigger and better things closer to home




2. The East is short of fully functioning staff, especially in the areas where I am highly trained.




3. By the numbers, I am one of the highest performing engineers across both departments, both in quantity of work and quality

I have permission to approach management in the East from my current group, I am trying to put this as an advantage to them, without it appear as if they are doing a favor for me, if possible I would like to be offered relocation and a raise. How can I best present this with the information given?

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  These points make sense. Hopefully they are valued by the East management. Unfortunately, sometimes timing is everything. If you have explained all of your points, and still don't have an offer to pay your relocation expenses then you have a few options. 1) Pay it yourself. 2) Threaten to leave if you don't get it. 3) Actually leave for a company closer to home. 4) Stay where you are and tolerate the long commute.
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The Situation

My department has undergone radical transformations in the past few years, moving from 9 Regional departments to a set of geo-redundant departments, one in our headquarters on the East Coast, and one in the Southwest. Last year, they closed the last two of the regional offices, and consolidated the work to the two main groups. During the consolidation, they offered relocation packages including a 15% raise and 15k for relocation expenses, they also offered the same package to anyone in the two main groups that wanted to transfer to their corresponding group. I was ineligible at the time of the offer as I had not been in my current position for the pre-requisite year.

Why I want this

Personal reasons however have made it expedient for us to move however, I currently work in the Western group and commute between 1.5 and 3 hours as I live over 40 miles from our Western headquarters. This year it was also announced that our office would be moving even further away from me. On top of that, management has decided that business needs necessitate a change in our schedules which would make it impossible for me to be home consistently in the evenings, where I am needed with our 3 young kids. In short, we need to move, and soon. We've considered moving closer to our headquarters in the SW, however, it's a more expensive area than where we currently live, and we have family in the city on the East coast that we wouldn't mind being closer to.

In short, we need to be closer to work, and while the traffic is terrible on the East Coast, there are reasonable areas that I can afford with what I currently make (even without a cost of living raise). There are also several advantages to this company in terms of experience and benefits that make it hard to find a position with equal compensation elsewhere in my current city. Relocating would also place me closer to the next level in my career as the groups I am interested in moving into in the long-term are still only located on the East Coast and building relationships in those groups is a crucial part of that transition.

The response

I began putting out feelers through my director and a friend who is in the process of relocating to the East as he is moving from Supervisor in the West to Manager in the East. They reached out and while I wasn't shocked to find that the old offer is no longer available, however I was surprised to find out that there was nothing my department would do in terms of relocation. Going over it this week, it would be a minimum of 8k to relocate our family to the East coast, and this is not something we can take out of pocket as we've focused on paying off debts this year.

At this point I feel frustrated with the lack of support from my department, and the reasoning that "relocation is only given to management" frankly pisses me off. This has not always been the case, not only recently with the transformation, but historically these types of moves have been supported.

Points in my favor

1. There has been high turnover associated with the transformation
   -Our central office was staffed before with salaried specialists who handled platform specific functions, and those roles are now being moved to more specialized groups of which we are not a part of
   -The majority of those who took relocation packages from our regional offices have left to do bigger and better things closer to home




2. The East is short of fully functioning staff, especially in the areas where I am highly trained.




3. By the numbers, I am one of the highest performing engineers across both departments, both in quantity of work and quality

I have permission to approach management in the East from my current group, I am trying to put this as an advantage to them, without it appear as if they are doing a favor for me, if possible I would like to be offered relocation and a raise. How can I best present this with the information given?

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  These points make sense. Hopefully they are valued by the East management. Unfortunately, sometimes timing is everything. If you have explained all of your points, and still don't have an offer to pay your relocation expenses then you have a few options. 1) Pay it yourself. 2) Threaten to leave if you don't get it. 3) Actually leave for a company closer to home. 4) Stay where you are and tolerate the long commute.
  – Joe Strazzere
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The Situation

My department has undergone radical transformations in the past few years, moving from 9 Regional departments to a set of geo-redundant departments, one in our headquarters on the East Coast, and one in the Southwest. Last year, they closed the last two of the regional offices, and consolidated the work to the two main groups. During the consolidation, they offered relocation packages including a 15% raise and 15k for relocation expenses, they also offered the same package to anyone in the two main groups that wanted to transfer to their corresponding group. I was ineligible at the time of the offer as I had not been in my current position for the pre-requisite year.

Why I want this

Personal reasons however have made it expedient for us to move however, I currently work in the Western group and commute between 1.5 and 3 hours as I live over 40 miles from our Western headquarters. This year it was also announced that our office would be moving even further away from me. On top of that, management has decided that business needs necessitate a change in our schedules which would make it impossible for me to be home consistently in the evenings, where I am needed with our 3 young kids. In short, we need to move, and soon. We've considered moving closer to our headquarters in the SW, however, it's a more expensive area than where we currently live, and we have family in the city on the East coast that we wouldn't mind being closer to.

In short, we need to be closer to work, and while the traffic is terrible on the East Coast, there are reasonable areas that I can afford with what I currently make (even without a cost of living raise). There are also several advantages to this company in terms of experience and benefits that make it hard to find a position with equal compensation elsewhere in my current city. Relocating would also place me closer to the next level in my career as the groups I am interested in moving into in the long-term are still only located on the East Coast and building relationships in those groups is a crucial part of that transition.

The response

I began putting out feelers through my director and a friend who is in the process of relocating to the East as he is moving from Supervisor in the West to Manager in the East. They reached out and while I wasn't shocked to find that the old offer is no longer available, however I was surprised to find out that there was nothing my department would do in terms of relocation. Going over it this week, it would be a minimum of 8k to relocate our family to the East coast, and this is not something we can take out of pocket as we've focused on paying off debts this year.

At this point I feel frustrated with the lack of support from my department, and the reasoning that "relocation is only given to management" frankly pisses me off. This has not always been the case, not only recently with the transformation, but historically these types of moves have been supported.

Points in my favor

1. There has been high turnover associated with the transformation
   -Our central office was staffed before with salaried specialists who handled platform specific functions, and those roles are now being moved to more specialized groups of which we are not a part of
   -The majority of those who took relocation packages from our regional offices have left to do bigger and better things closer to home




2. The East is short of fully functioning staff, especially in the areas where I am highly trained.




3. By the numbers, I am one of the highest performing engineers across both departments, both in quantity of work and quality

I have permission to approach management in the East from my current group, I am trying to put this as an advantage to them, without it appear as if they are doing a favor for me, if possible I would like to be offered relocation and a raise. How can I best present this with the information given?

job-offer negotiation relocation internal-transfer

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The Situation

My department has undergone radical transformations in the past few years, moving from 9 Regional departments to a set of geo-redundant departments, one in our headquarters on the East Coast, and one in the Southwest. Last year, they closed the last two of the regional offices, and consolidated the work to the two main groups. During the consolidation, they offered relocation packages including a 15% raise and 15k for relocation expenses, they also offered the same package to anyone in the two main groups that wanted to transfer to their corresponding group. I was ineligible at the time of the offer as I had not been in my current position for the pre-requisite year.

Why I want this

Personal reasons however have made it expedient for us to move however, I currently work in the Western group and commute between 1.5 and 3 hours as I live over 40 miles from our Western headquarters. This year it was also announced that our office would be moving even further away from me. On top of that, management has decided that business needs necessitate a change in our schedules which would make it impossible for me to be home consistently in the evenings, where I am needed with our 3 young kids. In short, we need to move, and soon. We've considered moving closer to our headquarters in the SW, however, it's a more expensive area than where we currently live, and we have family in the city on the East coast that we wouldn't mind being closer to.

In short, we need to be closer to work, and while the traffic is terrible on the East Coast, there are reasonable areas that I can afford with what I currently make (even without a cost of living raise). There are also several advantages to this company in terms of experience and benefits that make it hard to find a position with equal compensation elsewhere in my current city. Relocating would also place me closer to the next level in my career as the groups I am interested in moving into in the long-term are still only located on the East Coast and building relationships in those groups is a crucial part of that transition.

The response

I began putting out feelers through my director and a friend who is in the process of relocating to the East as he is moving from Supervisor in the West to Manager in the East. They reached out and while I wasn't shocked to find that the old offer is no longer available, however I was surprised to find out that there was nothing my department would do in terms of relocation. Going over it this week, it would be a minimum of 8k to relocate our family to the East coast, and this is not something we can take out of pocket as we've focused on paying off debts this year.

At this point I feel frustrated with the lack of support from my department, and the reasoning that "relocation is only given to management" frankly pisses me off. This has not always been the case, not only recently with the transformation, but historically these types of moves have been supported.

Points in my favor

1. There has been high turnover associated with the transformation
   -Our central office was staffed before with salaried specialists who handled platform specific functions, and those roles are now being moved to more specialized groups of which we are not a part of
   -The majority of those who took relocation packages from our regional offices have left to do bigger and better things closer to home




2. The East is short of fully functioning staff, especially in the areas where I am highly trained.




3. By the numbers, I am one of the highest performing engineers across both departments, both in quantity of work and quality

I have permission to approach management in the East from my current group, I am trying to put this as an advantage to them, without it appear as if they are doing a favor for me, if possible I would like to be offered relocation and a raise. How can I best present this with the information given?

job-offer negotiation relocation internal-transfer

job-offer negotiation relocation internal-transfer

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• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  These points make sense. Hopefully they are valued by the East management. Unfortunately, sometimes timing is everything. If you have explained all of your points, and still don't have an offer to pay your relocation expenses then you have a few options. 1) Pay it yourself. 2) Threaten to leave if you don't get it. 3) Actually leave for a company closer to home. 4) Stay where you are and tolerate the long commute.
  – Joe Strazzere
  3 mins ago
  
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  These points make sense. Hopefully they are valued by the East management. Unfortunately, sometimes timing is everything. If you have explained all of your points, and still don't have an offer to pay your relocation expenses then you have a few options. 1) Pay it yourself. 2) Threaten to leave if you don't get it. 3) Actually leave for a company closer to home. 4) Stay where you are and tolerate the long commute.
  – Joe Strazzere
  3 mins ago
  
  

  
  
  
  

These points make sense. Hopefully they are valued by the East management. Unfortunately, sometimes timing is everything. If you have explained all of your points, and still don't have an offer to pay your relocation expenses then you have a few options. 1) Pay it yourself. 2) Threaten to leave if you don't get it. 3) Actually leave for a company closer to home. 4) Stay where you are and tolerate the long commute.
– Joe Strazzere
3 mins ago

These points make sense. Hopefully they are valued by the East management. Unfortunately, sometimes timing is everything. If you have explained all of your points, and still don't have an offer to pay your relocation expenses then you have a few options. 1) Pay it yourself. 2) Threaten to leave if you don't get it. 3) Actually leave for a company closer to home. 4) Stay where you are and tolerate the long commute.
– Joe Strazzere
3 mins ago

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