Is it possible to see my external IP address without making an outbound web request?

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If your connection is NAT'ed, is it possible to see your external IP address without making an outbound web request?



Any OS (Windows, Linux, etc.) is fine.






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    Are you only trying to avoid HTTP, or are you trying to avoid sending any outgoing traffic at all? The only universal solutions involve sending some kind of outgoing traffic, but it doesn't have to be HTTP.
    – Spiff
    11 hours ago










  • This was more of just a hypothetical, I didn't want to make any outbound traffic at all.
    – Axel Persinger
    11 hours ago










  • Are you saying that your network/router is behind a Enterprise grade NAT setup (ie. it is getting a private IP address from your ISP)? If so, there is no way I have think of that you can find the public IP address without something reaching out to the public network and essentially "looking back" like whatsmyip.com or similar services.
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If your connection is NAT'ed, is it possible to see your external IP address without making an outbound web request?



Any OS (Windows, Linux, etc.) is fine.






networking nat ip-address







share|improve this question



















  • 2




    Are you only trying to avoid HTTP, or are you trying to avoid sending any outgoing traffic at all? The only universal solutions involve sending some kind of outgoing traffic, but it doesn't have to be HTTP.
    – Spiff
    11 hours ago










  • This was more of just a hypothetical, I didn't want to make any outbound traffic at all.
    – Axel Persinger
    11 hours ago










  • Are you saying that your network/router is behind a Enterprise grade NAT setup (ie. it is getting a private IP address from your ISP)? If so, there is no way I have think of that you can find the public IP address without something reaching out to the public network and essentially "looking back" like whatsmyip.com or similar services.
    – acejavelin
    11 hours ago












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If your connection is NAT'ed, is it possible to see your external IP address without making an outbound web request?



Any OS (Windows, Linux, etc.) is fine.






networking nat ip-address







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If your connection is NAT'ed, is it possible to see your external IP address without making an outbound web request?



Any OS (Windows, Linux, etc.) is fine.






networking nat ip-address




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  • 2




    Are you only trying to avoid HTTP, or are you trying to avoid sending any outgoing traffic at all? The only universal solutions involve sending some kind of outgoing traffic, but it doesn't have to be HTTP.
    – Spiff
    11 hours ago










  • This was more of just a hypothetical, I didn't want to make any outbound traffic at all.
    – Axel Persinger
    11 hours ago










  • Are you saying that your network/router is behind a Enterprise grade NAT setup (ie. it is getting a private IP address from your ISP)? If so, there is no way I have think of that you can find the public IP address without something reaching out to the public network and essentially "looking back" like whatsmyip.com or similar services.
    – acejavelin
    11 hours ago












  • 2




    Are you only trying to avoid HTTP, or are you trying to avoid sending any outgoing traffic at all? The only universal solutions involve sending some kind of outgoing traffic, but it doesn't have to be HTTP.
    – Spiff
    11 hours ago










  • This was more of just a hypothetical, I didn't want to make any outbound traffic at all.
    – Axel Persinger
    11 hours ago










  • Are you saying that your network/router is behind a Enterprise grade NAT setup (ie. it is getting a private IP address from your ISP)? If so, there is no way I have think of that you can find the public IP address without something reaching out to the public network and essentially "looking back" like whatsmyip.com or similar services.
    – acejavelin
    11 hours ago







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Are you only trying to avoid HTTP, or are you trying to avoid sending any outgoing traffic at all? The only universal solutions involve sending some kind of outgoing traffic, but it doesn't have to be HTTP.
– Spiff
11 hours ago




Are you only trying to avoid HTTP, or are you trying to avoid sending any outgoing traffic at all? The only universal solutions involve sending some kind of outgoing traffic, but it doesn't have to be HTTP.
– Spiff
11 hours ago












This was more of just a hypothetical, I didn't want to make any outbound traffic at all.
– Axel Persinger
11 hours ago




This was more of just a hypothetical, I didn't want to make any outbound traffic at all.
– Axel Persinger
11 hours ago












Are you saying that your network/router is behind a Enterprise grade NAT setup (ie. it is getting a private IP address from your ISP)? If so, there is no way I have think of that you can find the public IP address without something reaching out to the public network and essentially "looking back" like whatsmyip.com or similar services.
– acejavelin
11 hours ago




Are you saying that your network/router is behind a Enterprise grade NAT setup (ie. it is getting a private IP address from your ISP)? If so, there is no way I have think of that you can find the public IP address without something reaching out to the public network and essentially "looking back" like whatsmyip.com or similar services.
– acejavelin
11 hours ago










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If your computer is behind NAT, it is possible for you to see the external IP address
of your router, but you need administrative access to the router.



The router knows your external IP address, so by accessing its configuration
page you can find that IP address.



Any other way will require making an external Web request.






share|improve this answer






















  • This seems like it's answering a different question than OP is asking.
    – Spiff
    11 hours ago










  • @Spiff: I have re-written my answer. A comment would have been enough to signal that misunderstanding.
    – harrymc
    11 hours ago

















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There are a few ways that work with some NATs but nothing that's guaranteed to work everywhere.



I believe uPnP, NAT-PMP, and PCP (Universal Plug And Play, NAT Port Mapping Protocol, and the Port Control Protocol) all have ways to ask a compliant NAT gateway what the public address is, but not all NATs support these protocols. Support is more common in home gateway routers than in corporate or carrier-grade NAT solutions.



When you find yourself behind a NAT, the only sure way to see what public IP address it is translating your traffic into is to send some outgoing traffic to some public host that will report back, in a way the NAT won't translate, what address your traffic appeared to come from. Using a web based service is one way, but you could also do it by, say, SSHing into a cloud server instance and seeing where sshd says your SSH session is coming from.






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    Also UPnP etc. could give a false result if the system was behind double (or more) NAT.
    – user71659
    7 hours ago










  • @user71659 I have been wondering if there exist an anycast address which will automatically be routed to the outermost NAT such that it can be used for that kind of request.
    – kasperd
    6 hours ago










  • @kasperd Every NAT thinks it's the outermost NAT. There are certainly IPs that are automatically routed outside of all NATs. Those are called public IPs.
    – user20574
    3 hours ago


















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I would like to add one point to already existing answers.



It also depends on the network complexity. It is possible that your computer is located within a network that has multiple external IP addresses and the router somewhere up the line sends the traffic out to the Internet based on some criteria: for example, destination IP-address, or time of day (may be one uplink channel is cheaper at night or for other reasons).



So, to be complete, a notion of "external IP address" may require defining a destination point to which your address is being external.



In the example below Router #2 could perform NAT and send traffic to either uplinks and the receiving host could see different external IP-address for the Host.



Or it could be that a certain destination (for example host1.example.com) always routes thru the Uplink A, and the host host2.example.com always routes via Uplink B. So, your external IP addresses as seen by those hosts will be different, providing that Uplink A and Uplink B are different ISPs.



 Uplink A Uplink B
------------- -------------
 | |
 | |
 | 192.168.1.1 192.168.50.50 |
 | ----------- |
 |---------------|Router #2|---------------|
 -----------
 | 192.168.100.1
 |
 | 192.168.100.2
 -----------
 |Router #1|
 -----------
 | 192.168.200.1
 |
 | 192.168.200.2
 -----------
 | Host |
 -----------


So, sending traffic out will allow to get more reliable results.






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    You can use a DNS request, which I believe would not fall under the category of "web request":



    nslookup myip.opendns.com resolver1.opendns.com




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      If your computer is behind NAT, it is possible for you to see the external IP address
      of your router, but you need administrative access to the router.



      The router knows your external IP address, so by accessing its configuration
      page you can find that IP address.



      Any other way will require making an external Web request.






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      • This seems like it's answering a different question than OP is asking.
        – Spiff
        11 hours ago










      • @Spiff: I have re-written my answer. A comment would have been enough to signal that misunderstanding.
        – harrymc
        11 hours ago














      up vote
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      If your computer is behind NAT, it is possible for you to see the external IP address
      of your router, but you need administrative access to the router.



      The router knows your external IP address, so by accessing its configuration
      page you can find that IP address.



      Any other way will require making an external Web request.






      share|improve this answer






















      • This seems like it's answering a different question than OP is asking.
        – Spiff
        11 hours ago










      • @Spiff: I have re-written my answer. A comment would have been enough to signal that misunderstanding.
        – harrymc
        11 hours ago












      up vote
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      up vote
      8
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      If your computer is behind NAT, it is possible for you to see the external IP address
      of your router, but you need administrative access to the router.



      The router knows your external IP address, so by accessing its configuration
      page you can find that IP address.



      Any other way will require making an external Web request.






      share|improve this answer














      If your computer is behind NAT, it is possible for you to see the external IP address
      of your router, but you need administrative access to the router.



      The router knows your external IP address, so by accessing its configuration
      page you can find that IP address.



      Any other way will require making an external Web request.







      share|improve this answer














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      • This seems like it's answering a different question than OP is asking.
        – Spiff
        11 hours ago










      • @Spiff: I have re-written my answer. A comment would have been enough to signal that misunderstanding.
        – harrymc
        11 hours ago
















      • This seems like it's answering a different question than OP is asking.
        – Spiff
        11 hours ago










      • @Spiff: I have re-written my answer. A comment would have been enough to signal that misunderstanding.
        – harrymc
        11 hours ago















      This seems like it's answering a different question than OP is asking.
      – Spiff
      11 hours ago




      This seems like it's answering a different question than OP is asking.
      – Spiff
      11 hours ago












      @Spiff: I have re-written my answer. A comment would have been enough to signal that misunderstanding.
      – harrymc
      11 hours ago




      @Spiff: I have re-written my answer. A comment would have been enough to signal that misunderstanding.
      – harrymc
      11 hours ago












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      There are a few ways that work with some NATs but nothing that's guaranteed to work everywhere.



      I believe uPnP, NAT-PMP, and PCP (Universal Plug And Play, NAT Port Mapping Protocol, and the Port Control Protocol) all have ways to ask a compliant NAT gateway what the public address is, but not all NATs support these protocols. Support is more common in home gateway routers than in corporate or carrier-grade NAT solutions.



      When you find yourself behind a NAT, the only sure way to see what public IP address it is translating your traffic into is to send some outgoing traffic to some public host that will report back, in a way the NAT won't translate, what address your traffic appeared to come from. Using a web based service is one way, but you could also do it by, say, SSHing into a cloud server instance and seeing where sshd says your SSH session is coming from.






      share|improve this answer
















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        Also UPnP etc. could give a false result if the system was behind double (or more) NAT.
        – user71659
        7 hours ago










      • @user71659 I have been wondering if there exist an anycast address which will automatically be routed to the outermost NAT such that it can be used for that kind of request.
        – kasperd
        6 hours ago










      • @kasperd Every NAT thinks it's the outermost NAT. There are certainly IPs that are automatically routed outside of all NATs. Those are called public IPs.
        – user20574
        3 hours ago















      up vote
      5
      down vote













      There are a few ways that work with some NATs but nothing that's guaranteed to work everywhere.



      I believe uPnP, NAT-PMP, and PCP (Universal Plug And Play, NAT Port Mapping Protocol, and the Port Control Protocol) all have ways to ask a compliant NAT gateway what the public address is, but not all NATs support these protocols. Support is more common in home gateway routers than in corporate or carrier-grade NAT solutions.



      When you find yourself behind a NAT, the only sure way to see what public IP address it is translating your traffic into is to send some outgoing traffic to some public host that will report back, in a way the NAT won't translate, what address your traffic appeared to come from. Using a web based service is one way, but you could also do it by, say, SSHing into a cloud server instance and seeing where sshd says your SSH session is coming from.






      share|improve this answer
















      • 4




        Also UPnP etc. could give a false result if the system was behind double (or more) NAT.
        – user71659
        7 hours ago










      • @user71659 I have been wondering if there exist an anycast address which will automatically be routed to the outermost NAT such that it can be used for that kind of request.
        – kasperd
        6 hours ago










      • @kasperd Every NAT thinks it's the outermost NAT. There are certainly IPs that are automatically routed outside of all NATs. Those are called public IPs.
        – user20574
        3 hours ago













      up vote
      5
      down vote










      up vote
      5
      down vote









      There are a few ways that work with some NATs but nothing that's guaranteed to work everywhere.



      I believe uPnP, NAT-PMP, and PCP (Universal Plug And Play, NAT Port Mapping Protocol, and the Port Control Protocol) all have ways to ask a compliant NAT gateway what the public address is, but not all NATs support these protocols. Support is more common in home gateway routers than in corporate or carrier-grade NAT solutions.



      When you find yourself behind a NAT, the only sure way to see what public IP address it is translating your traffic into is to send some outgoing traffic to some public host that will report back, in a way the NAT won't translate, what address your traffic appeared to come from. Using a web based service is one way, but you could also do it by, say, SSHing into a cloud server instance and seeing where sshd says your SSH session is coming from.






      share|improve this answer












      There are a few ways that work with some NATs but nothing that's guaranteed to work everywhere.



      I believe uPnP, NAT-PMP, and PCP (Universal Plug And Play, NAT Port Mapping Protocol, and the Port Control Protocol) all have ways to ask a compliant NAT gateway what the public address is, but not all NATs support these protocols. Support is more common in home gateway routers than in corporate or carrier-grade NAT solutions.



      When you find yourself behind a NAT, the only sure way to see what public IP address it is translating your traffic into is to send some outgoing traffic to some public host that will report back, in a way the NAT won't translate, what address your traffic appeared to come from. Using a web based service is one way, but you could also do it by, say, SSHing into a cloud server instance and seeing where sshd says your SSH session is coming from.







      share|improve this answer












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      • 4




        Also UPnP etc. could give a false result if the system was behind double (or more) NAT.
        – user71659
        7 hours ago










      • @user71659 I have been wondering if there exist an anycast address which will automatically be routed to the outermost NAT such that it can be used for that kind of request.
        – kasperd
        6 hours ago










      • @kasperd Every NAT thinks it's the outermost NAT. There are certainly IPs that are automatically routed outside of all NATs. Those are called public IPs.
        – user20574
        3 hours ago













      • 4




        Also UPnP etc. could give a false result if the system was behind double (or more) NAT.
        – user71659
        7 hours ago










      • @user71659 I have been wondering if there exist an anycast address which will automatically be routed to the outermost NAT such that it can be used for that kind of request.
        – kasperd
        6 hours ago










      • @kasperd Every NAT thinks it's the outermost NAT. There are certainly IPs that are automatically routed outside of all NATs. Those are called public IPs.
        – user20574
        3 hours ago








      4




      4




      Also UPnP etc. could give a false result if the system was behind double (or more) NAT.
      – user71659
      7 hours ago




      Also UPnP etc. could give a false result if the system was behind double (or more) NAT.
      – user71659
      7 hours ago












      @user71659 I have been wondering if there exist an anycast address which will automatically be routed to the outermost NAT such that it can be used for that kind of request.
      – kasperd
      6 hours ago




      @user71659 I have been wondering if there exist an anycast address which will automatically be routed to the outermost NAT such that it can be used for that kind of request.
      – kasperd
      6 hours ago












      @kasperd Every NAT thinks it's the outermost NAT. There are certainly IPs that are automatically routed outside of all NATs. Those are called public IPs.
      – user20574
      3 hours ago





      @kasperd Every NAT thinks it's the outermost NAT. There are certainly IPs that are automatically routed outside of all NATs. Those are called public IPs.
      – user20574
      3 hours ago











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      I would like to add one point to already existing answers.



      It also depends on the network complexity. It is possible that your computer is located within a network that has multiple external IP addresses and the router somewhere up the line sends the traffic out to the Internet based on some criteria: for example, destination IP-address, or time of day (may be one uplink channel is cheaper at night or for other reasons).



      So, to be complete, a notion of "external IP address" may require defining a destination point to which your address is being external.



      In the example below Router #2 could perform NAT and send traffic to either uplinks and the receiving host could see different external IP-address for the Host.



      Or it could be that a certain destination (for example host1.example.com) always routes thru the Uplink A, and the host host2.example.com always routes via Uplink B. So, your external IP addresses as seen by those hosts will be different, providing that Uplink A and Uplink B are different ISPs.



       Uplink A Uplink B
      ------------- -------------
       | |
       | |
       | 192.168.1.1 192.168.50.50 |
       | ----------- |
       |---------------|Router #2|---------------|
       -----------
       | 192.168.100.1
       |
       | 192.168.100.2
       -----------
       |Router #1|
       -----------
       | 192.168.200.1
       |
       | 192.168.200.2
       -----------
       | Host |
       -----------


      So, sending traffic out will allow to get more reliable results.






      share|improve this answer
























        up vote
        2
        down vote













        I would like to add one point to already existing answers.



        It also depends on the network complexity. It is possible that your computer is located within a network that has multiple external IP addresses and the router somewhere up the line sends the traffic out to the Internet based on some criteria: for example, destination IP-address, or time of day (may be one uplink channel is cheaper at night or for other reasons).



        So, to be complete, a notion of "external IP address" may require defining a destination point to which your address is being external.



        In the example below Router #2 could perform NAT and send traffic to either uplinks and the receiving host could see different external IP-address for the Host.



        Or it could be that a certain destination (for example host1.example.com) always routes thru the Uplink A, and the host host2.example.com always routes via Uplink B. So, your external IP addresses as seen by those hosts will be different, providing that Uplink A and Uplink B are different ISPs.



         Uplink A Uplink B
        ------------- -------------
         | |
         | |
         | 192.168.1.1 192.168.50.50 |
         | ----------- |
         |---------------|Router #2|---------------|
         -----------
         | 192.168.100.1
         |
         | 192.168.100.2
         -----------
         |Router #1|
         -----------
         | 192.168.200.1
         |
         | 192.168.200.2
         -----------
         | Host |
         -----------


        So, sending traffic out will allow to get more reliable results.






        share|improve this answer






















          up vote
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          down vote










          up vote
          2
          down vote









          I would like to add one point to already existing answers.



          It also depends on the network complexity. It is possible that your computer is located within a network that has multiple external IP addresses and the router somewhere up the line sends the traffic out to the Internet based on some criteria: for example, destination IP-address, or time of day (may be one uplink channel is cheaper at night or for other reasons).



          So, to be complete, a notion of "external IP address" may require defining a destination point to which your address is being external.



          In the example below Router #2 could perform NAT and send traffic to either uplinks and the receiving host could see different external IP-address for the Host.



          Or it could be that a certain destination (for example host1.example.com) always routes thru the Uplink A, and the host host2.example.com always routes via Uplink B. So, your external IP addresses as seen by those hosts will be different, providing that Uplink A and Uplink B are different ISPs.



           Uplink A Uplink B
          ------------- -------------
           | |
           | |
           | 192.168.1.1 192.168.50.50 |
           | ----------- |
           |---------------|Router #2|---------------|
           -----------
           | 192.168.100.1
           |
           | 192.168.100.2
           -----------
           |Router #1|
           -----------
           | 192.168.200.1
           |
           | 192.168.200.2
           -----------
           | Host |
           -----------


          So, sending traffic out will allow to get more reliable results.






          share|improve this answer












          I would like to add one point to already existing answers.



          It also depends on the network complexity. It is possible that your computer is located within a network that has multiple external IP addresses and the router somewhere up the line sends the traffic out to the Internet based on some criteria: for example, destination IP-address, or time of day (may be one uplink channel is cheaper at night or for other reasons).



          So, to be complete, a notion of "external IP address" may require defining a destination point to which your address is being external.



          In the example below Router #2 could perform NAT and send traffic to either uplinks and the receiving host could see different external IP-address for the Host.



          Or it could be that a certain destination (for example host1.example.com) always routes thru the Uplink A, and the host host2.example.com always routes via Uplink B. So, your external IP addresses as seen by those hosts will be different, providing that Uplink A and Uplink B are different ISPs.



           Uplink A Uplink B
          ------------- -------------
           | |
           | |
           | 192.168.1.1 192.168.50.50 |
           | ----------- |
           |---------------|Router #2|---------------|
           -----------
           | 192.168.100.1
           |
           | 192.168.100.2
           -----------
           |Router #1|
           -----------
           | 192.168.200.1
           |
           | 192.168.200.2
           -----------
           | Host |
           -----------


          So, sending traffic out will allow to get more reliable results.







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              You can use a DNS request, which I believe would not fall under the category of "web request":



              nslookup myip.opendns.com resolver1.opendns.com




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                You can use a DNS request, which I believe would not fall under the category of "web request":



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                  You can use a DNS request, which I believe would not fall under the category of "web request":



                  nslookup myip.opendns.com resolver1.opendns.com




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                  nslookup myip.opendns.com resolver1.opendns.com





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