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An adventurer has come into possession of an invisible sword. How advantageous in a duel or skirmish would this be? Good for a one-time trick, a significant advantage throughout a fight, or even a disadvantage?
Some background detail:
Setting: Low-magic, late-medieval setting. Other strange artifacts like this might exist, but no spells or healing potions, etc.
Adventurer: Experienced adventurer and duelist, but average strength and size, and no sword-master. Personality is more suited to tricks, gimmicks, using wit etc.
Fights: Duels and skirmishes. No large-scale battles but conflict more on the line of a duel for honor, a bandit raid on a small party, etc.
Options: If there are any specific things that would make it more useful, such as type of sword, having the handle visible, any extra equipment, feel free to mention.
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An adventurer has come into possession of an invisible sword. How advantageous in a duel or skirmish would this be? Good for a one-time trick, a significant advantage throughout a fight, or even a disadvantage?
Some background detail:
Setting: Low-magic, late-medieval setting. Other strange artifacts like this might exist, but no spells or healing potions, etc.
Adventurer: Experienced adventurer and duelist, but average strength and size, and no sword-master. Personality is more suited to tricks, gimmicks, using wit etc.
Fights: Duels and skirmishes. No large-scale battles but conflict more on the line of a duel for honor, a bandit raid on a small party, etc.
Options: If there are any specific things that would make it more useful, such as type of sword, having the handle visible, any extra equipment, feel free to mention.
weapons combat low-fantasy
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The most significant disadvantage is that you can easily lose this sword.
– Alexander
42 mins ago
A rapier or a stoc would be an amazing invisible sword. A thrust (or lunge) is the fastest strike with a sword. By catching by surprise oponents, it would give a great advantage.
– Alberto Yagos
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An adventurer has come into possession of an invisible sword. How advantageous in a duel or skirmish would this be? Good for a one-time trick, a significant advantage throughout a fight, or even a disadvantage?
Some background detail:
Setting: Low-magic, late-medieval setting. Other strange artifacts like this might exist, but no spells or healing potions, etc.
Adventurer: Experienced adventurer and duelist, but average strength and size, and no sword-master. Personality is more suited to tricks, gimmicks, using wit etc.
Fights: Duels and skirmishes. No large-scale battles but conflict more on the line of a duel for honor, a bandit raid on a small party, etc.
Options: If there are any specific things that would make it more useful, such as type of sword, having the handle visible, any extra equipment, feel free to mention.
weapons combat low-fantasy
asked 1 hour ago
Cain
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An adventurer has come into possession of an invisible sword. How advantageous in a duel or skirmish would this be? Good for a one-time trick, a significant advantage throughout a fight, or even a disadvantage?
Some background detail:
Setting: Low-magic, late-medieval setting. Other strange artifacts like this might exist, but no spells or healing potions, etc.
Adventurer: Experienced adventurer and duelist, but average strength and size, and no sword-master. Personality is more suited to tricks, gimmicks, using wit etc.
Fights: Duels and skirmishes. No large-scale battles but conflict more on the line of a duel for honor, a bandit raid on a small party, etc.
Options: If there are any specific things that would make it more useful, such as type of sword, having the handle visible, any extra equipment, feel free to mention.
weapons combat low-fantasy
weapons combat low-fantasy
asked 1 hour ago
Cain
1,508718
asked 1 hour ago
Cain
1,508718
asked 1 hour ago
Cain
1,508718
asked 1 hour ago
Cain
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asked 1 hour ago
Cain
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The most significant disadvantage is that you can easily lose this sword.
– Alexander
42 mins ago
A rapier or a stoc would be an amazing invisible sword. A thrust (or lunge) is the fastest strike with a sword. By catching by surprise oponents, it would give a great advantage.
– Alberto Yagos
38 mins ago
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The most significant disadvantage is that you can easily lose this sword.
– Alexander
42 mins ago
A rapier or a stoc would be an amazing invisible sword. A thrust (or lunge) is the fastest strike with a sword. By catching by surprise oponents, it would give a great advantage.
– Alberto Yagos
38 mins ago
The most significant disadvantage is that you can easily lose this sword.
– Alexander
42 mins ago
The most significant disadvantage is that you can easily lose this sword.
– Alexander
42 mins ago
A rapier or a stoc would be an amazing invisible sword. A thrust (or lunge) is the fastest strike with a sword. By catching by surprise oponents, it would give a great advantage.
– Alberto Yagos
38 mins ago
A rapier or a stoc would be an amazing invisible sword. A thrust (or lunge) is the fastest strike with a sword. By catching by surprise oponents, it would give a great advantage.
– Alberto Yagos
38 mins ago
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Very Advantageous. But with careful use.
Obvious use is assassinations, since it can let your guy appear to be unarmed. He can even do it in public, and frame a nearby armed person.
For a duel, he will need a visible weapon to maintain pretenses. Then he can sneakily stab the opponent who is focused on parrying the visible weapon.
For extra equipment, can try attaching a visible dagger to it, to explain away the swinging and stabbing motions that the wielder is doing.
Disadvantages
It cannot be used to threaten somebody, or deter them from attacking.
The wielder himself cannot see it, which can get dangerous, especially if he is trying to parry with it.
He might get accused of using magic, which will have consequences.
If the sword gets bloody, will blood be visible? If so, he can only use it once per fight.
answered 1 hour ago
Bald Bear
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Great minds think alike lol. I just updated my answer adding the intimidation issue and then saw it in your answer.
– nurdyguy
1 hour ago
I really like the idea of having a second, visible weapon involved as well. +1
– Cain
55 mins ago
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A very good fighter is able to gauge their opponent's range and uses that to both predict/defend against attacks as well as strategizing their own attacks. An invisible sword would be much harder to gauge and thus create a significant advantage for the wielder. This was used in the anime series "Fate/stay Night" where King Arthur's noble phantasm (special power) was being able to shield the length of Excalibur.
Edit:
The primary advantage would be in 1 on 1 duel type settings. This would have little advantage in a large group skirmish as one rarely has time to stop and closely evaluate range in that kind of setting. Additionally, it would actually be a determent in an intimidation type scenario. With intimidation, size matters. Since you can't show just how impressive your weapon is, you can't use it to intimidate.
answered 1 hour ago
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Bald Bear basically nailed everything I was going to answer except for one particular other use I saw once in an anime called Get Backers.
In the episode I watched, a bad guy got into a swordfight with one of the main characters. The hero kept being hurt by the sword even though he as pretty confident in his skill to dodge the blows. Still, he kept being hit time after time.
The explanation for that is that the attacker's sword was actually a few inches longer than it appeared. The additional inches were invisible, which gave him an incredible advantage early on - if one of these attacks got, say, his throat, that would have been the end of the fight.
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Magus
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3 Answers
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3 Answers
3
active
oldest
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active
oldest
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active
oldest
votes
up vote
5
down vote
Very Advantageous. But with careful use.
Obvious use is assassinations, since it can let your guy appear to be unarmed. He can even do it in public, and frame a nearby armed person.
For a duel, he will need a visible weapon to maintain pretenses. Then he can sneakily stab the opponent who is focused on parrying the visible weapon.
For extra equipment, can try attaching a visible dagger to it, to explain away the swinging and stabbing motions that the wielder is doing.
Disadvantages
It cannot be used to threaten somebody, or deter them from attacking.
The wielder himself cannot see it, which can get dangerous, especially if he is trying to parry with it.
He might get accused of using magic, which will have consequences.
If the sword gets bloody, will blood be visible? If so, he can only use it once per fight.
answered 1 hour ago
Bald Bear
5,356519
1
Great minds think alike lol. I just updated my answer adding the intimidation issue and then saw it in your answer.
– nurdyguy
1 hour ago
I really like the idea of having a second, visible weapon involved as well. +1
– Cain
55 mins ago
add a comment |Â
up vote
5
down vote
Very Advantageous. But with careful use.
Obvious use is assassinations, since it can let your guy appear to be unarmed. He can even do it in public, and frame a nearby armed person.
For a duel, he will need a visible weapon to maintain pretenses. Then he can sneakily stab the opponent who is focused on parrying the visible weapon.
For extra equipment, can try attaching a visible dagger to it, to explain away the swinging and stabbing motions that the wielder is doing.
Disadvantages
It cannot be used to threaten somebody, or deter them from attacking.
The wielder himself cannot see it, which can get dangerous, especially if he is trying to parry with it.
He might get accused of using magic, which will have consequences.
If the sword gets bloody, will blood be visible? If so, he can only use it once per fight.
answered 1 hour ago
Bald Bear
5,356519
1
Great minds think alike lol. I just updated my answer adding the intimidation issue and then saw it in your answer.
– nurdyguy
1 hour ago
I really like the idea of having a second, visible weapon involved as well. +1
– Cain
55 mins ago
add a comment |Â
up vote
5
down vote
up vote
5
down vote
Very Advantageous. But with careful use.
Obvious use is assassinations, since it can let your guy appear to be unarmed. He can even do it in public, and frame a nearby armed person.
For a duel, he will need a visible weapon to maintain pretenses. Then he can sneakily stab the opponent who is focused on parrying the visible weapon.
For extra equipment, can try attaching a visible dagger to it, to explain away the swinging and stabbing motions that the wielder is doing.
Disadvantages
It cannot be used to threaten somebody, or deter them from attacking.
The wielder himself cannot see it, which can get dangerous, especially if he is trying to parry with it.
He might get accused of using magic, which will have consequences.
If the sword gets bloody, will blood be visible? If so, he can only use it once per fight.
answered 1 hour ago
Bald Bear
5,356519
Very Advantageous. But with careful use.
Obvious use is assassinations, since it can let your guy appear to be unarmed. He can even do it in public, and frame a nearby armed person.
For a duel, he will need a visible weapon to maintain pretenses. Then he can sneakily stab the opponent who is focused on parrying the visible weapon.
For extra equipment, can try attaching a visible dagger to it, to explain away the swinging and stabbing motions that the wielder is doing.
Disadvantages
It cannot be used to threaten somebody, or deter them from attacking.
The wielder himself cannot see it, which can get dangerous, especially if he is trying to parry with it.
He might get accused of using magic, which will have consequences.
If the sword gets bloody, will blood be visible? If so, he can only use it once per fight.
answered 1 hour ago
Bald Bear
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edited 59 mins ago
answered 1 hour ago
Bald Bear
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answered 1 hour ago
Bald Bear
5,356519
answered 1 hour ago
Bald Bear
5,356519
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Great minds think alike lol. I just updated my answer adding the intimidation issue and then saw it in your answer.
– nurdyguy
1 hour ago
I really like the idea of having a second, visible weapon involved as well. +1
– Cain
55 mins ago
add a comment |Â
1
Great minds think alike lol. I just updated my answer adding the intimidation issue and then saw it in your answer.
– nurdyguy
1 hour ago
I really like the idea of having a second, visible weapon involved as well. +1
– Cain
55 mins ago
1
1
Great minds think alike lol. I just updated my answer adding the intimidation issue and then saw it in your answer.
– nurdyguy
1 hour ago
Great minds think alike lol. I just updated my answer adding the intimidation issue and then saw it in your answer.
– nurdyguy
1 hour ago
I really like the idea of having a second, visible weapon involved as well. +1
– Cain
55 mins ago
I really like the idea of having a second, visible weapon involved as well. +1
– Cain
55 mins ago
add a comment |Â
up vote
1
down vote
A very good fighter is able to gauge their opponent's range and uses that to both predict/defend against attacks as well as strategizing their own attacks. An invisible sword would be much harder to gauge and thus create a significant advantage for the wielder. This was used in the anime series "Fate/stay Night" where King Arthur's noble phantasm (special power) was being able to shield the length of Excalibur.
Edit:
The primary advantage would be in 1 on 1 duel type settings. This would have little advantage in a large group skirmish as one rarely has time to stop and closely evaluate range in that kind of setting. Additionally, it would actually be a determent in an intimidation type scenario. With intimidation, size matters. Since you can't show just how impressive your weapon is, you can't use it to intimidate.
answered 1 hour ago
nurdyguy
2712
add a comment |Â
up vote
1
down vote
A very good fighter is able to gauge their opponent's range and uses that to both predict/defend against attacks as well as strategizing their own attacks. An invisible sword would be much harder to gauge and thus create a significant advantage for the wielder. This was used in the anime series "Fate/stay Night" where King Arthur's noble phantasm (special power) was being able to shield the length of Excalibur.
Edit:
The primary advantage would be in 1 on 1 duel type settings. This would have little advantage in a large group skirmish as one rarely has time to stop and closely evaluate range in that kind of setting. Additionally, it would actually be a determent in an intimidation type scenario. With intimidation, size matters. Since you can't show just how impressive your weapon is, you can't use it to intimidate.
answered 1 hour ago
nurdyguy
2712
add a comment |Â
up vote
1
down vote
up vote
1
down vote
A very good fighter is able to gauge their opponent's range and uses that to both predict/defend against attacks as well as strategizing their own attacks. An invisible sword would be much harder to gauge and thus create a significant advantage for the wielder. This was used in the anime series "Fate/stay Night" where King Arthur's noble phantasm (special power) was being able to shield the length of Excalibur.
Edit:
The primary advantage would be in 1 on 1 duel type settings. This would have little advantage in a large group skirmish as one rarely has time to stop and closely evaluate range in that kind of setting. Additionally, it would actually be a determent in an intimidation type scenario. With intimidation, size matters. Since you can't show just how impressive your weapon is, you can't use it to intimidate.
answered 1 hour ago
nurdyguy
2712
A very good fighter is able to gauge their opponent's range and uses that to both predict/defend against attacks as well as strategizing their own attacks. An invisible sword would be much harder to gauge and thus create a significant advantage for the wielder. This was used in the anime series "Fate/stay Night" where King Arthur's noble phantasm (special power) was being able to shield the length of Excalibur.
Edit:
The primary advantage would be in 1 on 1 duel type settings. This would have little advantage in a large group skirmish as one rarely has time to stop and closely evaluate range in that kind of setting. Additionally, it would actually be a determent in an intimidation type scenario. With intimidation, size matters. Since you can't show just how impressive your weapon is, you can't use it to intimidate.
answered 1 hour ago
nurdyguy
2712
answered 1 hour ago
nurdyguy
2712
answered 1 hour ago
nurdyguy
2712
answered 1 hour ago
nurdyguy
2712
2712
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1
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Bald Bear basically nailed everything I was going to answer except for one particular other use I saw once in an anime called Get Backers.
In the episode I watched, a bad guy got into a swordfight with one of the main characters. The hero kept being hurt by the sword even though he as pretty confident in his skill to dodge the blows. Still, he kept being hit time after time.
The explanation for that is that the attacker's sword was actually a few inches longer than it appeared. The additional inches were invisible, which gave him an incredible advantage early on - if one of these attacks got, say, his throat, that would have been the end of the fight.
answered 40 mins ago
Magus
767517
add a comment |Â
up vote
1
down vote
Bald Bear basically nailed everything I was going to answer except for one particular other use I saw once in an anime called Get Backers.
In the episode I watched, a bad guy got into a swordfight with one of the main characters. The hero kept being hurt by the sword even though he as pretty confident in his skill to dodge the blows. Still, he kept being hit time after time.
The explanation for that is that the attacker's sword was actually a few inches longer than it appeared. The additional inches were invisible, which gave him an incredible advantage early on - if one of these attacks got, say, his throat, that would have been the end of the fight.
answered 40 mins ago
Magus
767517
add a comment |Â
up vote
1
down vote
up vote
1
down vote
Bald Bear basically nailed everything I was going to answer except for one particular other use I saw once in an anime called Get Backers.
In the episode I watched, a bad guy got into a swordfight with one of the main characters. The hero kept being hurt by the sword even though he as pretty confident in his skill to dodge the blows. Still, he kept being hit time after time.
The explanation for that is that the attacker's sword was actually a few inches longer than it appeared. The additional inches were invisible, which gave him an incredible advantage early on - if one of these attacks got, say, his throat, that would have been the end of the fight.
answered 40 mins ago
Magus
767517
Bald Bear basically nailed everything I was going to answer except for one particular other use I saw once in an anime called Get Backers.
In the episode I watched, a bad guy got into a swordfight with one of the main characters. The hero kept being hurt by the sword even though he as pretty confident in his skill to dodge the blows. Still, he kept being hit time after time.
The explanation for that is that the attacker's sword was actually a few inches longer than it appeared. The additional inches were invisible, which gave him an incredible advantage early on - if one of these attacks got, say, his throat, that would have been the end of the fight.
answered 40 mins ago
Magus
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answered 40 mins ago
Magus
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answered 40 mins ago
Magus
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answered 40 mins ago
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The most significant disadvantage is that you can easily lose this sword.
– Alexander
42 mins ago
A rapier or a stoc would be an amazing invisible sword. A thrust (or lunge) is the fastest strike with a sword. By catching by surprise oponents, it would give a great advantage.
– Alberto Yagos
38 mins ago