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Comfortable way of entering and exiting Airships anywhere at will
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Imagine that the taboo around Airships and dirigibles is broken. Besides some cargo, passenger and tourism Airships there's one company that focuses on the super-rich by selling what are essentially flying super-yachts.
A metamaterial skin prevents the gas from escaping the hull, meaning you'll lose maybe 1% of your gas per year. Electricity is created through pressure, wind, batteries, a backup engine and solar panels on the outer shell (mainly semi-rigid or rigid Airships are used I assume. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airship). Water can be collected and filtered for use both from rain or by collecting from the sea/lakes. An on-board computer accessible from anywhere in the ship keeps it level, can steer the ship to any destination while avoiding obstacles and it monitors the local weather and news reports to keep the airship safe from hazardous weather conditions (rule of thumb: Any weather with winds faster than the Airships max speed is dangerous). And similar to Airships of old it can reach a whopping 130km/h (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Akron_(ZRS-4))
Now most problems that would arise can be handwaved away with future materials or for the most part existing solutions and real-life Airships already exist that can do what I want. But what I cant figure out is how to make these Airships comfortable to enter and exit. You want whoever from your small crew to be able to get out and get the groceries or maintenance parts without the need to stop where you are going. But more importantly you want to get in your supercar and be safely on the ground or return to the airship with minimal discomfort and minimal facilities. So far the only solution I have thought off is an extendable elevator at the bottom of the airship and a parking lot. But that still means you need a pretty damn long extendable arm on your elevator to reach the ground if you are anywhere near houses or worse some flats. It also means your crew wont be able to leave without stopping the airship.
Anyone got any bright ideas?
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Imagine that the taboo around Airships and dirigibles is broken. Besides some cargo, passenger and tourism Airships there's one company that focuses on the super-rich by selling what are essentially flying super-yachts.
A metamaterial skin prevents the gas from escaping the hull, meaning you'll lose maybe 1% of your gas per year. Electricity is created through pressure, wind, batteries, a backup engine and solar panels on the outer shell (mainly semi-rigid or rigid Airships are used I assume. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airship). Water can be collected and filtered for use both from rain or by collecting from the sea/lakes. An on-board computer accessible from anywhere in the ship keeps it level, can steer the ship to any destination while avoiding obstacles and it monitors the local weather and news reports to keep the airship safe from hazardous weather conditions (rule of thumb: Any weather with winds faster than the Airships max speed is dangerous). And similar to Airships of old it can reach a whopping 130km/h (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Akron_(ZRS-4))
Now most problems that would arise can be handwaved away with future materials or for the most part existing solutions and real-life Airships already exist that can do what I want. But what I cant figure out is how to make these Airships comfortable to enter and exit. You want whoever from your small crew to be able to get out and get the groceries or maintenance parts without the need to stop where you are going. But more importantly you want to get in your supercar and be safely on the ground or return to the airship with minimal discomfort and minimal facilities. So far the only solution I have thought off is an extendable elevator at the bottom of the airship and a parking lot. But that still means you need a pretty damn long extendable arm on your elevator to reach the ground if you are anywhere near houses or worse some flats. It also means your crew wont be able to leave without stopping the airship.
Anyone got any bright ideas?
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There's no taboo, they're just not very good when compared to the other options.
– Separatrix
2 hours ago
Comfortable is a matter of opinion. Some people do like parachuting for quick exits.
– Renan
1 hour ago
How to safely load and unload an airship has always been one of the biggest problems. Most airship disasters, and the many associated deaths, have happened near the landing field.
– user535733
1 hour ago
@separatix people think Airships are loud, exceedingly slow, made of explodium and crash when you sneeze too hard. Consider that despite few companies building them they cost about 12 to 15 million (about the same as a 6-car train) and that most startups have handled it badly. As if you found some new (or old) tech and try to build a smartphone rivalling the current best while you had no prior experience in making them. I think there are markets for them and that their cost/effectiveness can be good enough to compete with existing transport.
– Demigan
48 mins ago
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@Renan how are you going to parachute up the airship paragliding would work in a way, but it would be risky and time consuming. Comfort in general means as little effort as possible with a low-effort posture. Like in a chair. And that chair is deemed more comfortable in general if its softer and more supportive etc.
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Imagine that the taboo around Airships and dirigibles is broken. Besides some cargo, passenger and tourism Airships there's one company that focuses on the super-rich by selling what are essentially flying super-yachts.
A metamaterial skin prevents the gas from escaping the hull, meaning you'll lose maybe 1% of your gas per year. Electricity is created through pressure, wind, batteries, a backup engine and solar panels on the outer shell (mainly semi-rigid or rigid Airships are used I assume. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airship). Water can be collected and filtered for use both from rain or by collecting from the sea/lakes. An on-board computer accessible from anywhere in the ship keeps it level, can steer the ship to any destination while avoiding obstacles and it monitors the local weather and news reports to keep the airship safe from hazardous weather conditions (rule of thumb: Any weather with winds faster than the Airships max speed is dangerous). And similar to Airships of old it can reach a whopping 130km/h (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Akron_(ZRS-4))
Now most problems that would arise can be handwaved away with future materials or for the most part existing solutions and real-life Airships already exist that can do what I want. But what I cant figure out is how to make these Airships comfortable to enter and exit. You want whoever from your small crew to be able to get out and get the groceries or maintenance parts without the need to stop where you are going. But more importantly you want to get in your supercar and be safely on the ground or return to the airship with minimal discomfort and minimal facilities. So far the only solution I have thought off is an extendable elevator at the bottom of the airship and a parking lot. But that still means you need a pretty damn long extendable arm on your elevator to reach the ground if you are anywhere near houses or worse some flats. It also means your crew wont be able to leave without stopping the airship.
Anyone got any bright ideas?
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Imagine that the taboo around Airships and dirigibles is broken. Besides some cargo, passenger and tourism Airships there's one company that focuses on the super-rich by selling what are essentially flying super-yachts.
A metamaterial skin prevents the gas from escaping the hull, meaning you'll lose maybe 1% of your gas per year. Electricity is created through pressure, wind, batteries, a backup engine and solar panels on the outer shell (mainly semi-rigid or rigid Airships are used I assume. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airship). Water can be collected and filtered for use both from rain or by collecting from the sea/lakes. An on-board computer accessible from anywhere in the ship keeps it level, can steer the ship to any destination while avoiding obstacles and it monitors the local weather and news reports to keep the airship safe from hazardous weather conditions (rule of thumb: Any weather with winds faster than the Airships max speed is dangerous). And similar to Airships of old it can reach a whopping 130km/h (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Akron_(ZRS-4))
Now most problems that would arise can be handwaved away with future materials or for the most part existing solutions and real-life Airships already exist that can do what I want. But what I cant figure out is how to make these Airships comfortable to enter and exit. You want whoever from your small crew to be able to get out and get the groceries or maintenance parts without the need to stop where you are going. But more importantly you want to get in your supercar and be safely on the ground or return to the airship with minimal discomfort and minimal facilities. So far the only solution I have thought off is an extendable elevator at the bottom of the airship and a parking lot. But that still means you need a pretty damn long extendable arm on your elevator to reach the ground if you are anywhere near houses or worse some flats. It also means your crew wont be able to leave without stopping the airship.
Anyone got any bright ideas?
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There's no taboo, they're just not very good when compared to the other options.
– Separatrix
2 hours ago
Comfortable is a matter of opinion. Some people do like parachuting for quick exits.
– Renan
1 hour ago
How to safely load and unload an airship has always been one of the biggest problems. Most airship disasters, and the many associated deaths, have happened near the landing field.
– user535733
1 hour ago
@separatix people think Airships are loud, exceedingly slow, made of explodium and crash when you sneeze too hard. Consider that despite few companies building them they cost about 12 to 15 million (about the same as a 6-car train) and that most startups have handled it badly. As if you found some new (or old) tech and try to build a smartphone rivalling the current best while you had no prior experience in making them. I think there are markets for them and that their cost/effectiveness can be good enough to compete with existing transport.
– Demigan
48 mins ago
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@Renan how are you going to parachute up the airship paragliding would work in a way, but it would be risky and time consuming. Comfort in general means as little effort as possible with a low-effort posture. Like in a chair. And that chair is deemed more comfortable in general if its softer and more supportive etc.
– Demigan
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There's no taboo, they're just not very good when compared to the other options.
– Separatrix
2 hours ago
Comfortable is a matter of opinion. Some people do like parachuting for quick exits.
– Renan
1 hour ago
How to safely load and unload an airship has always been one of the biggest problems. Most airship disasters, and the many associated deaths, have happened near the landing field.
– user535733
1 hour ago
@separatix people think Airships are loud, exceedingly slow, made of explodium and crash when you sneeze too hard. Consider that despite few companies building them they cost about 12 to 15 million (about the same as a 6-car train) and that most startups have handled it badly. As if you found some new (or old) tech and try to build a smartphone rivalling the current best while you had no prior experience in making them. I think there are markets for them and that their cost/effectiveness can be good enough to compete with existing transport.
– Demigan
48 mins ago
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@Renan how are you going to parachute up the airship paragliding would work in a way, but it would be risky and time consuming. Comfort in general means as little effort as possible with a low-effort posture. Like in a chair. And that chair is deemed more comfortable in general if its softer and more supportive etc.
– Demigan
45 mins ago
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There's no taboo, they're just not very good when compared to the other options.
– Separatrix
2 hours ago
There's no taboo, they're just not very good when compared to the other options.
– Separatrix
2 hours ago
Comfortable is a matter of opinion. Some people do like parachuting for quick exits.
– Renan
1 hour ago
Comfortable is a matter of opinion. Some people do like parachuting for quick exits.
– Renan
1 hour ago
How to safely load and unload an airship has always been one of the biggest problems. Most airship disasters, and the many associated deaths, have happened near the landing field.
– user535733
1 hour ago
How to safely load and unload an airship has always been one of the biggest problems. Most airship disasters, and the many associated deaths, have happened near the landing field.
– user535733
1 hour ago
@separatix people think Airships are loud, exceedingly slow, made of explodium and crash when you sneeze too hard. Consider that despite few companies building them they cost about 12 to 15 million (about the same as a 6-car train) and that most startups have handled it badly. As if you found some new (or old) tech and try to build a smartphone rivalling the current best while you had no prior experience in making them. I think there are markets for them and that their cost/effectiveness can be good enough to compete with existing transport.
– Demigan
48 mins ago
@separatix people think Airships are loud, exceedingly slow, made of explodium and crash when you sneeze too hard. Consider that despite few companies building them they cost about 12 to 15 million (about the same as a 6-car train) and that most startups have handled it badly. As if you found some new (or old) tech and try to build a smartphone rivalling the current best while you had no prior experience in making them. I think there are markets for them and that their cost/effectiveness can be good enough to compete with existing transport.
– Demigan
48 mins ago
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@Renan how are you going to parachute up the airship paragliding would work in a way, but it would be risky and time consuming. Comfort in general means as little effort as possible with a low-effort posture. Like in a chair. And that chair is deemed more comfortable in general if its softer and more supportive etc.
– Demigan
45 mins ago
@Renan how are you going to parachute up the airship paragliding would work in a way, but it would be risky and time consuming. Comfort in general means as little effort as possible with a low-effort posture. Like in a chair. And that chair is deemed more comfortable in general if its softer and more supportive etc.
– Demigan
45 mins ago
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A detachable, considerably smaller airship.
It will use gas of the overlord to offset most of the weight being lowered, minus a small amount which will allow for a mostly controlled descent. For safety (and a means to return), a cable will be attached between the two and an electric winch will be used to retrieve the smaller airship, along with any extra goods which may have been acquired.
Upon redocking, there wouldn't really need to be much need to equalize the gas until the next load is taken off (presumably of differing weight, and therefore, gas will need to be added/removed).
Edit: I guess I should have pointed out that the cable is also a means of equalizing gas so that the smaller balloon can remain on the ground if need be, or extra gas can be pushed to it to make the winch's job easier.
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A detachable, considerably smaller airship. = A helicopter?
– Jannis
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I'm pretty sure airship is the term for lighter-than-air aircraft. Helicopters fly by beating the world around them in to tenuous submission.
– ColonelPanic
45 mins ago
heli as idea for a smaller airship (not considering your definition). Airships need much space, and aren't so manouvreable, so i thought it'd be a good 'smaller airship'. If you integrate that in your definition i'd write as solely answer
– Jannis
41 mins ago
Good idea. Gets me thinking of some Heavier Than Air (HTA) Airships that use surfaces and speed to fly but require little speed to do it. A small one could function as an ultra-light aircraft capable of overtaking the overlord while needing little area to land on (with short-term VTOL almost none). Have two on the top, as below would likely be harder to land it, and you have one for the crew and one for the owners. A car would still need to be landed by the overlord but you can have a crewmember drive it while you land on a helipad perhaps...
– Demigan
38 mins ago
If you think helicopter is a viable answer, then feel free to post it! I think a helicopter adds too much complexity (needs lots of extra fuel, maintenance, needs a pilot, initial cost, dangers of spinning blades around a balloon, difficult of recovering, etc) for being an answer. The simplicity of using another airship is that most of your materials are already there and you have experience in the maintenance of it.
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Jetpacks!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rocketeer_(film)
If you are going to have airships, you need jetpacks. I can picture the crewman spotting the grocery coming into view below as he is shaving. He straps on his pack and tumbles backwards off of the airship into free fall, zipping his pants and buttoning his shirt as he falls. Shaving cream remnants blow upwards off of his face. He turns his jets on full blast 10 yards above the ground, runs into the grocery and grabs a 12-pack of Moxie, pays with a single silver coin, then back outside and blasting off to catch up with the airship receding away.
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I would suggest an elevator without a shaft, i.e., a sort of cable car or gondola. Perhaps the entire "cabin" descends from the airframe on a cable, and serves as an anchor while it sits on the ground. It might get a bit unnerving in high winds, so an alternative would be to drop a weighted anchor first, then have the cabin or a part of the cabin descent along the already-taut cable.
The balloon will continue to float overhead, and the only real risk of harm is if other balloons are parked too close together (they might crash into one another in the wind). I am assuming you have figured out a solution for dangerous weather -- either descending the entire airship to ground level and securing it, or perhaps flying high above the weather.
If the cable car is large enough, it could include parking space for the owner's supercar and comfortable seating for his guests.
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Small landing pad on top of airship, used by a conventional helicopter, flying cars, or drones for deliveries. In fact, groceries can be delivered by drone straight to the receiving hatch in the main gondola.
Also, the USS Akron that you mentioned could launch and retrieve airplanes. Modern electronics should make this process a lot safer and smoother.
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A detachable, considerably smaller airship.
It will use gas of the overlord to offset most of the weight being lowered, minus a small amount which will allow for a mostly controlled descent. For safety (and a means to return), a cable will be attached between the two and an electric winch will be used to retrieve the smaller airship, along with any extra goods which may have been acquired.
Upon redocking, there wouldn't really need to be much need to equalize the gas until the next load is taken off (presumably of differing weight, and therefore, gas will need to be added/removed).
Edit: I guess I should have pointed out that the cable is also a means of equalizing gas so that the smaller balloon can remain on the ground if need be, or extra gas can be pushed to it to make the winch's job easier.
answered 1 hour ago
ColonelPanic
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A detachable, considerably smaller airship. = A helicopter?
– Jannis
1 hour ago
1
I'm pretty sure airship is the term for lighter-than-air aircraft. Helicopters fly by beating the world around them in to tenuous submission.
– ColonelPanic
45 mins ago
heli as idea for a smaller airship (not considering your definition). Airships need much space, and aren't so manouvreable, so i thought it'd be a good 'smaller airship'. If you integrate that in your definition i'd write as solely answer
– Jannis
41 mins ago
Good idea. Gets me thinking of some Heavier Than Air (HTA) Airships that use surfaces and speed to fly but require little speed to do it. A small one could function as an ultra-light aircraft capable of overtaking the overlord while needing little area to land on (with short-term VTOL almost none). Have two on the top, as below would likely be harder to land it, and you have one for the crew and one for the owners. A car would still need to be landed by the overlord but you can have a crewmember drive it while you land on a helipad perhaps...
– Demigan
38 mins ago
If you think helicopter is a viable answer, then feel free to post it! I think a helicopter adds too much complexity (needs lots of extra fuel, maintenance, needs a pilot, initial cost, dangers of spinning blades around a balloon, difficult of recovering, etc) for being an answer. The simplicity of using another airship is that most of your materials are already there and you have experience in the maintenance of it.
– ColonelPanic
33 mins ago
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A detachable, considerably smaller airship.
It will use gas of the overlord to offset most of the weight being lowered, minus a small amount which will allow for a mostly controlled descent. For safety (and a means to return), a cable will be attached between the two and an electric winch will be used to retrieve the smaller airship, along with any extra goods which may have been acquired.
Upon redocking, there wouldn't really need to be much need to equalize the gas until the next load is taken off (presumably of differing weight, and therefore, gas will need to be added/removed).
Edit: I guess I should have pointed out that the cable is also a means of equalizing gas so that the smaller balloon can remain on the ground if need be, or extra gas can be pushed to it to make the winch's job easier.
answered 1 hour ago
ColonelPanic
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A detachable, considerably smaller airship. = A helicopter?
– Jannis
1 hour ago
1
I'm pretty sure airship is the term for lighter-than-air aircraft. Helicopters fly by beating the world around them in to tenuous submission.
– ColonelPanic
45 mins ago
heli as idea for a smaller airship (not considering your definition). Airships need much space, and aren't so manouvreable, so i thought it'd be a good 'smaller airship'. If you integrate that in your definition i'd write as solely answer
– Jannis
41 mins ago
Good idea. Gets me thinking of some Heavier Than Air (HTA) Airships that use surfaces and speed to fly but require little speed to do it. A small one could function as an ultra-light aircraft capable of overtaking the overlord while needing little area to land on (with short-term VTOL almost none). Have two on the top, as below would likely be harder to land it, and you have one for the crew and one for the owners. A car would still need to be landed by the overlord but you can have a crewmember drive it while you land on a helipad perhaps...
– Demigan
38 mins ago
If you think helicopter is a viable answer, then feel free to post it! I think a helicopter adds too much complexity (needs lots of extra fuel, maintenance, needs a pilot, initial cost, dangers of spinning blades around a balloon, difficult of recovering, etc) for being an answer. The simplicity of using another airship is that most of your materials are already there and you have experience in the maintenance of it.
– ColonelPanic
33 mins ago
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A detachable, considerably smaller airship.
It will use gas of the overlord to offset most of the weight being lowered, minus a small amount which will allow for a mostly controlled descent. For safety (and a means to return), a cable will be attached between the two and an electric winch will be used to retrieve the smaller airship, along with any extra goods which may have been acquired.
Upon redocking, there wouldn't really need to be much need to equalize the gas until the next load is taken off (presumably of differing weight, and therefore, gas will need to be added/removed).
Edit: I guess I should have pointed out that the cable is also a means of equalizing gas so that the smaller balloon can remain on the ground if need be, or extra gas can be pushed to it to make the winch's job easier.
answered 1 hour ago
ColonelPanic
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A detachable, considerably smaller airship.
It will use gas of the overlord to offset most of the weight being lowered, minus a small amount which will allow for a mostly controlled descent. For safety (and a means to return), a cable will be attached between the two and an electric winch will be used to retrieve the smaller airship, along with any extra goods which may have been acquired.
Upon redocking, there wouldn't really need to be much need to equalize the gas until the next load is taken off (presumably of differing weight, and therefore, gas will need to be added/removed).
Edit: I guess I should have pointed out that the cable is also a means of equalizing gas so that the smaller balloon can remain on the ground if need be, or extra gas can be pushed to it to make the winch's job easier.
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A detachable, considerably smaller airship. = A helicopter?
– Jannis
1 hour ago
1
I'm pretty sure airship is the term for lighter-than-air aircraft. Helicopters fly by beating the world around them in to tenuous submission.
– ColonelPanic
45 mins ago
heli as idea for a smaller airship (not considering your definition). Airships need much space, and aren't so manouvreable, so i thought it'd be a good 'smaller airship'. If you integrate that in your definition i'd write as solely answer
– Jannis
41 mins ago
Good idea. Gets me thinking of some Heavier Than Air (HTA) Airships that use surfaces and speed to fly but require little speed to do it. A small one could function as an ultra-light aircraft capable of overtaking the overlord while needing little area to land on (with short-term VTOL almost none). Have two on the top, as below would likely be harder to land it, and you have one for the crew and one for the owners. A car would still need to be landed by the overlord but you can have a crewmember drive it while you land on a helipad perhaps...
– Demigan
38 mins ago
If you think helicopter is a viable answer, then feel free to post it! I think a helicopter adds too much complexity (needs lots of extra fuel, maintenance, needs a pilot, initial cost, dangers of spinning blades around a balloon, difficult of recovering, etc) for being an answer. The simplicity of using another airship is that most of your materials are already there and you have experience in the maintenance of it.
– ColonelPanic
33 mins ago
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A detachable, considerably smaller airship. = A helicopter?
– Jannis
1 hour ago
1
I'm pretty sure airship is the term for lighter-than-air aircraft. Helicopters fly by beating the world around them in to tenuous submission.
– ColonelPanic
45 mins ago
heli as idea for a smaller airship (not considering your definition). Airships need much space, and aren't so manouvreable, so i thought it'd be a good 'smaller airship'. If you integrate that in your definition i'd write as solely answer
– Jannis
41 mins ago
Good idea. Gets me thinking of some Heavier Than Air (HTA) Airships that use surfaces and speed to fly but require little speed to do it. A small one could function as an ultra-light aircraft capable of overtaking the overlord while needing little area to land on (with short-term VTOL almost none). Have two on the top, as below would likely be harder to land it, and you have one for the crew and one for the owners. A car would still need to be landed by the overlord but you can have a crewmember drive it while you land on a helipad perhaps...
– Demigan
38 mins ago
If you think helicopter is a viable answer, then feel free to post it! I think a helicopter adds too much complexity (needs lots of extra fuel, maintenance, needs a pilot, initial cost, dangers of spinning blades around a balloon, difficult of recovering, etc) for being an answer. The simplicity of using another airship is that most of your materials are already there and you have experience in the maintenance of it.
– ColonelPanic
33 mins ago
A detachable, considerably smaller airship. = A helicopter?
– Jannis
1 hour ago
A detachable, considerably smaller airship. = A helicopter?
– Jannis
1 hour ago
1
1
I'm pretty sure airship is the term for lighter-than-air aircraft. Helicopters fly by beating the world around them in to tenuous submission.
– ColonelPanic
45 mins ago
I'm pretty sure airship is the term for lighter-than-air aircraft. Helicopters fly by beating the world around them in to tenuous submission.
– ColonelPanic
45 mins ago
heli as idea for a smaller airship (not considering your definition). Airships need much space, and aren't so manouvreable, so i thought it'd be a good 'smaller airship'. If you integrate that in your definition i'd write as solely answer
– Jannis
41 mins ago
heli as idea for a smaller airship (not considering your definition). Airships need much space, and aren't so manouvreable, so i thought it'd be a good 'smaller airship'. If you integrate that in your definition i'd write as solely answer
– Jannis
41 mins ago
Good idea. Gets me thinking of some Heavier Than Air (HTA) Airships that use surfaces and speed to fly but require little speed to do it. A small one could function as an ultra-light aircraft capable of overtaking the overlord while needing little area to land on (with short-term VTOL almost none). Have two on the top, as below would likely be harder to land it, and you have one for the crew and one for the owners. A car would still need to be landed by the overlord but you can have a crewmember drive it while you land on a helipad perhaps...
– Demigan
38 mins ago
Good idea. Gets me thinking of some Heavier Than Air (HTA) Airships that use surfaces and speed to fly but require little speed to do it. A small one could function as an ultra-light aircraft capable of overtaking the overlord while needing little area to land on (with short-term VTOL almost none). Have two on the top, as below would likely be harder to land it, and you have one for the crew and one for the owners. A car would still need to be landed by the overlord but you can have a crewmember drive it while you land on a helipad perhaps...
– Demigan
38 mins ago
If you think helicopter is a viable answer, then feel free to post it! I think a helicopter adds too much complexity (needs lots of extra fuel, maintenance, needs a pilot, initial cost, dangers of spinning blades around a balloon, difficult of recovering, etc) for being an answer. The simplicity of using another airship is that most of your materials are already there and you have experience in the maintenance of it.
– ColonelPanic
33 mins ago
If you think helicopter is a viable answer, then feel free to post it! I think a helicopter adds too much complexity (needs lots of extra fuel, maintenance, needs a pilot, initial cost, dangers of spinning blades around a balloon, difficult of recovering, etc) for being an answer. The simplicity of using another airship is that most of your materials are already there and you have experience in the maintenance of it.
– ColonelPanic
33 mins ago
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Jetpacks!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rocketeer_(film)
If you are going to have airships, you need jetpacks. I can picture the crewman spotting the grocery coming into view below as he is shaving. He straps on his pack and tumbles backwards off of the airship into free fall, zipping his pants and buttoning his shirt as he falls. Shaving cream remnants blow upwards off of his face. He turns his jets on full blast 10 yards above the ground, runs into the grocery and grabs a 12-pack of Moxie, pays with a single silver coin, then back outside and blasting off to catch up with the airship receding away.
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Jetpacks!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rocketeer_(film)
If you are going to have airships, you need jetpacks. I can picture the crewman spotting the grocery coming into view below as he is shaving. He straps on his pack and tumbles backwards off of the airship into free fall, zipping his pants and buttoning his shirt as he falls. Shaving cream remnants blow upwards off of his face. He turns his jets on full blast 10 yards above the ground, runs into the grocery and grabs a 12-pack of Moxie, pays with a single silver coin, then back outside and blasting off to catch up with the airship receding away.
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Jetpacks!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rocketeer_(film)
If you are going to have airships, you need jetpacks. I can picture the crewman spotting the grocery coming into view below as he is shaving. He straps on his pack and tumbles backwards off of the airship into free fall, zipping his pants and buttoning his shirt as he falls. Shaving cream remnants blow upwards off of his face. He turns his jets on full blast 10 yards above the ground, runs into the grocery and grabs a 12-pack of Moxie, pays with a single silver coin, then back outside and blasting off to catch up with the airship receding away.
answered 1 hour ago
Willk
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Jetpacks!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rocketeer_(film)
If you are going to have airships, you need jetpacks. I can picture the crewman spotting the grocery coming into view below as he is shaving. He straps on his pack and tumbles backwards off of the airship into free fall, zipping his pants and buttoning his shirt as he falls. Shaving cream remnants blow upwards off of his face. He turns his jets on full blast 10 yards above the ground, runs into the grocery and grabs a 12-pack of Moxie, pays with a single silver coin, then back outside and blasting off to catch up with the airship receding away.
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I would suggest an elevator without a shaft, i.e., a sort of cable car or gondola. Perhaps the entire "cabin" descends from the airframe on a cable, and serves as an anchor while it sits on the ground. It might get a bit unnerving in high winds, so an alternative would be to drop a weighted anchor first, then have the cabin or a part of the cabin descent along the already-taut cable.
The balloon will continue to float overhead, and the only real risk of harm is if other balloons are parked too close together (they might crash into one another in the wind). I am assuming you have figured out a solution for dangerous weather -- either descending the entire airship to ground level and securing it, or perhaps flying high above the weather.
If the cable car is large enough, it could include parking space for the owner's supercar and comfortable seating for his guests.
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I would suggest an elevator without a shaft, i.e., a sort of cable car or gondola. Perhaps the entire "cabin" descends from the airframe on a cable, and serves as an anchor while it sits on the ground. It might get a bit unnerving in high winds, so an alternative would be to drop a weighted anchor first, then have the cabin or a part of the cabin descent along the already-taut cable.
The balloon will continue to float overhead, and the only real risk of harm is if other balloons are parked too close together (they might crash into one another in the wind). I am assuming you have figured out a solution for dangerous weather -- either descending the entire airship to ground level and securing it, or perhaps flying high above the weather.
If the cable car is large enough, it could include parking space for the owner's supercar and comfortable seating for his guests.
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I would suggest an elevator without a shaft, i.e., a sort of cable car or gondola. Perhaps the entire "cabin" descends from the airframe on a cable, and serves as an anchor while it sits on the ground. It might get a bit unnerving in high winds, so an alternative would be to drop a weighted anchor first, then have the cabin or a part of the cabin descent along the already-taut cable.
The balloon will continue to float overhead, and the only real risk of harm is if other balloons are parked too close together (they might crash into one another in the wind). I am assuming you have figured out a solution for dangerous weather -- either descending the entire airship to ground level and securing it, or perhaps flying high above the weather.
If the cable car is large enough, it could include parking space for the owner's supercar and comfortable seating for his guests.
answered 26 mins ago
Joe
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I would suggest an elevator without a shaft, i.e., a sort of cable car or gondola. Perhaps the entire "cabin" descends from the airframe on a cable, and serves as an anchor while it sits on the ground. It might get a bit unnerving in high winds, so an alternative would be to drop a weighted anchor first, then have the cabin or a part of the cabin descent along the already-taut cable.
The balloon will continue to float overhead, and the only real risk of harm is if other balloons are parked too close together (they might crash into one another in the wind). I am assuming you have figured out a solution for dangerous weather -- either descending the entire airship to ground level and securing it, or perhaps flying high above the weather.
If the cable car is large enough, it could include parking space for the owner's supercar and comfortable seating for his guests.
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answered 26 mins ago
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Small landing pad on top of airship, used by a conventional helicopter, flying cars, or drones for deliveries. In fact, groceries can be delivered by drone straight to the receiving hatch in the main gondola.
Also, the USS Akron that you mentioned could launch and retrieve airplanes. Modern electronics should make this process a lot safer and smoother.
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Small landing pad on top of airship, used by a conventional helicopter, flying cars, or drones for deliveries. In fact, groceries can be delivered by drone straight to the receiving hatch in the main gondola.
Also, the USS Akron that you mentioned could launch and retrieve airplanes. Modern electronics should make this process a lot safer and smoother.
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Small landing pad on top of airship, used by a conventional helicopter, flying cars, or drones for deliveries. In fact, groceries can be delivered by drone straight to the receiving hatch in the main gondola.
Also, the USS Akron that you mentioned could launch and retrieve airplanes. Modern electronics should make this process a lot safer and smoother.
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Small landing pad on top of airship, used by a conventional helicopter, flying cars, or drones for deliveries. In fact, groceries can be delivered by drone straight to the receiving hatch in the main gondola.
Also, the USS Akron that you mentioned could launch and retrieve airplanes. Modern electronics should make this process a lot safer and smoother.
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answered 22 mins ago
Bald Bear
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There's no taboo, they're just not very good when compared to the other options.
– Separatrix
2 hours ago
Comfortable is a matter of opinion. Some people do like parachuting for quick exits.
– Renan
1 hour ago
How to safely load and unload an airship has always been one of the biggest problems. Most airship disasters, and the many associated deaths, have happened near the landing field.
– user535733
1 hour ago
@separatix people think Airships are loud, exceedingly slow, made of explodium and crash when you sneeze too hard. Consider that despite few companies building them they cost about 12 to 15 million (about the same as a 6-car train) and that most startups have handled it badly. As if you found some new (or old) tech and try to build a smartphone rivalling the current best while you had no prior experience in making them. I think there are markets for them and that their cost/effectiveness can be good enough to compete with existing transport.
– Demigan
48 mins ago
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@Renan how are you going to parachute up the airship paragliding would work in a way, but it would be risky and time consuming. Comfort in general means as little effort as possible with a low-effort posture. Like in a chair. And that chair is deemed more comfortable in general if its softer and more supportive etc.
– Demigan
45 mins ago