How can I make a hanging indent where a title is outside of a text frame?

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I have a layout with two columns, and I would like the header to go outside of the text frame like this:



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However this would mean the Header text hanging outside of the text frame. I could achieve this using a separate text box for the headers, like this:



enter image description here



However, this has a couple of major drawbacks. Firstly the headers would not flow with the text, and secondly the columns would not be split correctly below the header.



What I want is to have the header set up as a paragraph style, so that it spans columns, but hangs left of the frame:



enter image description here



I could "fudge it" by setting the body text to be indented, and make the columns wider to accomodate this, but that wouldn't work either as the text in the right hand column would also be indented, so the gutter would be too wide:



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How can I make this work?






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    I have a layout with two columns, and I would like the header to go outside of the text frame like this:



    enter image description here



    However this would mean the Header text hanging outside of the text frame. I could achieve this using a separate text box for the headers, like this:



    enter image description here



    However, this has a couple of major drawbacks. Firstly the headers would not flow with the text, and secondly the columns would not be split correctly below the header.



    What I want is to have the header set up as a paragraph style, so that it spans columns, but hangs left of the frame:



    enter image description here



    I could "fudge it" by setting the body text to be indented, and make the columns wider to accomodate this, but that wouldn't work either as the text in the right hand column would also be indented, so the gutter would be too wide:



    enter image description here



    How can I make this work?






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      I have a layout with two columns, and I would like the header to go outside of the text frame like this:



      enter image description here



      However this would mean the Header text hanging outside of the text frame. I could achieve this using a separate text box for the headers, like this:



      enter image description here



      However, this has a couple of major drawbacks. Firstly the headers would not flow with the text, and secondly the columns would not be split correctly below the header.



      What I want is to have the header set up as a paragraph style, so that it spans columns, but hangs left of the frame:



      enter image description here



      I could "fudge it" by setting the body text to be indented, and make the columns wider to accomodate this, but that wouldn't work either as the text in the right hand column would also be indented, so the gutter would be too wide:



      enter image description here



      How can I make this work?






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      I have a layout with two columns, and I would like the header to go outside of the text frame like this:



      enter image description here



      However this would mean the Header text hanging outside of the text frame. I could achieve this using a separate text box for the headers, like this:



      enter image description here



      However, this has a couple of major drawbacks. Firstly the headers would not flow with the text, and secondly the columns would not be split correctly below the header.



      What I want is to have the header set up as a paragraph style, so that it spans columns, but hangs left of the frame:



      enter image description here



      I could "fudge it" by setting the body text to be indented, and make the columns wider to accomodate this, but that wouldn't work either as the text in the right hand column would also be indented, so the gutter would be too wide:



      enter image description here



      How can I make this work?






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          • Insert a hair space character before the title

          • Select this character and set its tracking to -1000

          title out



          If the hair space character does not appear anywhere in the text, you can create a paragraph style with a GREP applied to all hair space characters.



          Add after @Lucian comment, the same hair space character with 200% horizontal scale



          horizontal scale






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            Awesome trick! I notice you can also add 'horizontal scale' to that space to push the title further outside the box. You may want to add this to the answer.
            – Lucian
            2 hours ago











          • Thank you both very much! Been tearing my hair out!
            – Ben
            2 hours ago










          • Too bad you cannot do this with a style. (The internal framework does not allow it. I guess Adobe's solution would be to indent everything else.)
            – usr2564301
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          • Insert a hair space character before the title

          • Select this character and set its tracking to -1000

          title out



          If the hair space character does not appear anywhere in the text, you can create a paragraph style with a GREP applied to all hair space characters.



          Add after @Lucian comment, the same hair space character with 200% horizontal scale



          horizontal scale






          share|improve this answer


















          • 2




            Awesome trick! I notice you can also add 'horizontal scale' to that space to push the title further outside the box. You may want to add this to the answer.
            – Lucian
            2 hours ago











          • Thank you both very much! Been tearing my hair out!
            – Ben
            2 hours ago










          • Too bad you cannot do this with a style. (The internal framework does not allow it. I guess Adobe's solution would be to indent everything else.)
            – usr2564301
            16 mins ago














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          • Insert a hair space character before the title

          • Select this character and set its tracking to -1000

          title out



          If the hair space character does not appear anywhere in the text, you can create a paragraph style with a GREP applied to all hair space characters.



          Add after @Lucian comment, the same hair space character with 200% horizontal scale



          horizontal scale






          share|improve this answer


















          • 2




            Awesome trick! I notice you can also add 'horizontal scale' to that space to push the title further outside the box. You may want to add this to the answer.
            – Lucian
            2 hours ago











          • Thank you both very much! Been tearing my hair out!
            – Ben
            2 hours ago










          • Too bad you cannot do this with a style. (The internal framework does not allow it. I guess Adobe's solution would be to indent everything else.)
            – usr2564301
            16 mins ago












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          up vote
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          • Insert a hair space character before the title

          • Select this character and set its tracking to -1000

          title out



          If the hair space character does not appear anywhere in the text, you can create a paragraph style with a GREP applied to all hair space characters.



          Add after @Lucian comment, the same hair space character with 200% horizontal scale



          horizontal scale






          share|improve this answer














          • Insert a hair space character before the title

          • Select this character and set its tracking to -1000

          title out



          If the hair space character does not appear anywhere in the text, you can create a paragraph style with a GREP applied to all hair space characters.



          Add after @Lucian comment, the same hair space character with 200% horizontal scale



          horizontal scale







          share|improve this answer














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            Awesome trick! I notice you can also add 'horizontal scale' to that space to push the title further outside the box. You may want to add this to the answer.
            – Lucian
            2 hours ago











          • Thank you both very much! Been tearing my hair out!
            – Ben
            2 hours ago










          • Too bad you cannot do this with a style. (The internal framework does not allow it. I guess Adobe's solution would be to indent everything else.)
            – usr2564301
            16 mins ago












          • 2




            Awesome trick! I notice you can also add 'horizontal scale' to that space to push the title further outside the box. You may want to add this to the answer.
            – Lucian
            2 hours ago











          • Thank you both very much! Been tearing my hair out!
            – Ben
            2 hours ago










          • Too bad you cannot do this with a style. (The internal framework does not allow it. I guess Adobe's solution would be to indent everything else.)
            – usr2564301
            16 mins ago







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          Awesome trick! I notice you can also add 'horizontal scale' to that space to push the title further outside the box. You may want to add this to the answer.
          – Lucian
          2 hours ago





          Awesome trick! I notice you can also add 'horizontal scale' to that space to push the title further outside the box. You may want to add this to the answer.
          – Lucian
          2 hours ago













          Thank you both very much! Been tearing my hair out!
          – Ben
          2 hours ago




          Thank you both very much! Been tearing my hair out!
          – Ben
          2 hours ago












          Too bad you cannot do this with a style. (The internal framework does not allow it. I guess Adobe's solution would be to indent everything else.)
          – usr2564301
          16 mins ago




          Too bad you cannot do this with a style. (The internal framework does not allow it. I guess Adobe's solution would be to indent everything else.)
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