Why are journals telling me that my article is plagiarized even though I wrote it by myself?

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Recently, I wrote an article, and I'm trying to submit it somewhere, but two journals told me that my article is plagiarized even up to 70%!



  • I'm 100% sure that it's not plagiarized because I wrote it by myself.


  • The only thing that I suspect caused this problem is that I posted the pre-print online in ECSarxiv, and I think they found my pre-print and think my paper is plagiarized! My name on the pre-print is exactly the same as in the submitted paper.


  • I checked the pre-print policy of these journals, and they clearly stated that they don't have a problem with pre-prints.


  • I checked it with Turnitin, and it says there is no plagiarism in my article. I also searched the Internet for random sentences from my article and it just shows my pre-print.


  • I complained after I received the rejection, pointed out to my pre-print, and asked them to name the paper I allegedly plagiarized from. However, they did not respond back to me. I now sent an email to editor-in-chief and I'm waiting for response.


  • I am confident that the journals are reputable (Elsevier and Springer).


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    It is also possible that someone plagiarized your preprint. In any case, a reputable journal should tell you what they think is the source for alleged plagiarism so that you can respond. If they don't, submit to a more reasonable journal
    – Thomas
    20 hours ago






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    @Thomas My main concern is that what if someone even published my preprint somewhere?! I know it sounds crazy but it's almost a month is passed from the time that I posted my pre-print. But the odd thing is that why Turintin and other paid plagiarism checker tools are saying there is no plagiarism?!
    – Alone Programmer
    20 hours ago










  • @Anyon The 70% figure almost certainly doesn't mean "70% of the sentences appeared in our database", so your Google test doesn't seem to be on a firm footing.
    – David Richerby
    4 hours ago






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    @DavidRicherby So, what is the exact meaning of these percentages from plagiarism checker tools?
    – Alone Programmer
    4 hours ago






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    Moderator’s notice: I deleted a lot of comments since they are addressed by information added to the question. If you feel that some important information is still missing, please post a new comment (and @AloneProgrammer: please edit additional information into your question). Also please do not post answers as comments. Finally, please refrain from commenting that blindly relying on a automated plagiarism checker is stupid – you are preaching to the converted.
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Recently, I wrote an article, and I'm trying to submit it somewhere, but two journals told me that my article is plagiarized even up to 70%!



  • I'm 100% sure that it's not plagiarized because I wrote it by myself.


  • The only thing that I suspect caused this problem is that I posted the pre-print online in ECSarxiv, and I think they found my pre-print and think my paper is plagiarized! My name on the pre-print is exactly the same as in the submitted paper.


  • I checked the pre-print policy of these journals, and they clearly stated that they don't have a problem with pre-prints.


  • I checked it with Turnitin, and it says there is no plagiarism in my article. I also searched the Internet for random sentences from my article and it just shows my pre-print.


  • I complained after I received the rejection, pointed out to my pre-print, and asked them to name the paper I allegedly plagiarized from. However, they did not respond back to me. I now sent an email to editor-in-chief and I'm waiting for response.


  • I am confident that the journals are reputable (Elsevier and Springer).


Any ideas or suggestions?










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    It is also possible that someone plagiarized your preprint. In any case, a reputable journal should tell you what they think is the source for alleged plagiarism so that you can respond. If they don't, submit to a more reasonable journal
    – Thomas
    20 hours ago






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    @Thomas My main concern is that what if someone even published my preprint somewhere?! I know it sounds crazy but it's almost a month is passed from the time that I posted my pre-print. But the odd thing is that why Turintin and other paid plagiarism checker tools are saying there is no plagiarism?!
    – Alone Programmer
    20 hours ago










  • @Anyon The 70% figure almost certainly doesn't mean "70% of the sentences appeared in our database", so your Google test doesn't seem to be on a firm footing.
    – David Richerby
    4 hours ago






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    @DavidRicherby So, what is the exact meaning of these percentages from plagiarism checker tools?
    – Alone Programmer
    4 hours ago






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    Moderator’s notice: I deleted a lot of comments since they are addressed by information added to the question. If you feel that some important information is still missing, please post a new comment (and @AloneProgrammer: please edit additional information into your question). Also please do not post answers as comments. Finally, please refrain from commenting that blindly relying on a automated plagiarism checker is stupid – you are preaching to the converted.
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Recently, I wrote an article, and I'm trying to submit it somewhere, but two journals told me that my article is plagiarized even up to 70%!



  • I'm 100% sure that it's not plagiarized because I wrote it by myself.


  • The only thing that I suspect caused this problem is that I posted the pre-print online in ECSarxiv, and I think they found my pre-print and think my paper is plagiarized! My name on the pre-print is exactly the same as in the submitted paper.


  • I checked the pre-print policy of these journals, and they clearly stated that they don't have a problem with pre-prints.


  • I checked it with Turnitin, and it says there is no plagiarism in my article. I also searched the Internet for random sentences from my article and it just shows my pre-print.


  • I complained after I received the rejection, pointed out to my pre-print, and asked them to name the paper I allegedly plagiarized from. However, they did not respond back to me. I now sent an email to editor-in-chief and I'm waiting for response.


  • I am confident that the journals are reputable (Elsevier and Springer).


Any ideas or suggestions?










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Recently, I wrote an article, and I'm trying to submit it somewhere, but two journals told me that my article is plagiarized even up to 70%!



  • I'm 100% sure that it's not plagiarized because I wrote it by myself.


  • The only thing that I suspect caused this problem is that I posted the pre-print online in ECSarxiv, and I think they found my pre-print and think my paper is plagiarized! My name on the pre-print is exactly the same as in the submitted paper.


  • I checked the pre-print policy of these journals, and they clearly stated that they don't have a problem with pre-prints.


  • I checked it with Turnitin, and it says there is no plagiarism in my article. I also searched the Internet for random sentences from my article and it just shows my pre-print.


  • I complained after I received the rejection, pointed out to my pre-print, and asked them to name the paper I allegedly plagiarized from. However, they did not respond back to me. I now sent an email to editor-in-chief and I'm waiting for response.


  • I am confident that the journals are reputable (Elsevier and Springer).


Any ideas or suggestions?







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    It is also possible that someone plagiarized your preprint. In any case, a reputable journal should tell you what they think is the source for alleged plagiarism so that you can respond. If they don't, submit to a more reasonable journal
    – Thomas
    20 hours ago






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    @Thomas My main concern is that what if someone even published my preprint somewhere?! I know it sounds crazy but it's almost a month is passed from the time that I posted my pre-print. But the odd thing is that why Turintin and other paid plagiarism checker tools are saying there is no plagiarism?!
    – Alone Programmer
    20 hours ago










  • @Anyon The 70% figure almost certainly doesn't mean "70% of the sentences appeared in our database", so your Google test doesn't seem to be on a firm footing.
    – David Richerby
    4 hours ago






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    @DavidRicherby So, what is the exact meaning of these percentages from plagiarism checker tools?
    – Alone Programmer
    4 hours ago






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    Moderator’s notice: I deleted a lot of comments since they are addressed by information added to the question. If you feel that some important information is still missing, please post a new comment (and @AloneProgrammer: please edit additional information into your question). Also please do not post answers as comments. Finally, please refrain from commenting that blindly relying on a automated plagiarism checker is stupid – you are preaching to the converted.
    – Wrzlprmft♦
    42 mins ago












  • 14




    It is also possible that someone plagiarized your preprint. In any case, a reputable journal should tell you what they think is the source for alleged plagiarism so that you can respond. If they don't, submit to a more reasonable journal
    – Thomas
    20 hours ago






  • 1




    @Thomas My main concern is that what if someone even published my preprint somewhere?! I know it sounds crazy but it's almost a month is passed from the time that I posted my pre-print. But the odd thing is that why Turintin and other paid plagiarism checker tools are saying there is no plagiarism?!
    – Alone Programmer
    20 hours ago










  • @Anyon The 70% figure almost certainly doesn't mean "70% of the sentences appeared in our database", so your Google test doesn't seem to be on a firm footing.
    – David Richerby
    4 hours ago






  • 1




    @DavidRicherby So, what is the exact meaning of these percentages from plagiarism checker tools?
    – Alone Programmer
    4 hours ago






  • 1




    Moderator’s notice: I deleted a lot of comments since they are addressed by information added to the question. If you feel that some important information is still missing, please post a new comment (and @AloneProgrammer: please edit additional information into your question). Also please do not post answers as comments. Finally, please refrain from commenting that blindly relying on a automated plagiarism checker is stupid – you are preaching to the converted.
    – Wrzlprmft♦
    42 mins ago







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It is also possible that someone plagiarized your preprint. In any case, a reputable journal should tell you what they think is the source for alleged plagiarism so that you can respond. If they don't, submit to a more reasonable journal
– Thomas
20 hours ago




It is also possible that someone plagiarized your preprint. In any case, a reputable journal should tell you what they think is the source for alleged plagiarism so that you can respond. If they don't, submit to a more reasonable journal
– Thomas
20 hours ago




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@Thomas My main concern is that what if someone even published my preprint somewhere?! I know it sounds crazy but it's almost a month is passed from the time that I posted my pre-print. But the odd thing is that why Turintin and other paid plagiarism checker tools are saying there is no plagiarism?!
– Alone Programmer
20 hours ago




@Thomas My main concern is that what if someone even published my preprint somewhere?! I know it sounds crazy but it's almost a month is passed from the time that I posted my pre-print. But the odd thing is that why Turintin and other paid plagiarism checker tools are saying there is no plagiarism?!
– Alone Programmer
20 hours ago












@Anyon The 70% figure almost certainly doesn't mean "70% of the sentences appeared in our database", so your Google test doesn't seem to be on a firm footing.
– David Richerby
4 hours ago




@Anyon The 70% figure almost certainly doesn't mean "70% of the sentences appeared in our database", so your Google test doesn't seem to be on a firm footing.
– David Richerby
4 hours ago




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@DavidRicherby So, what is the exact meaning of these percentages from plagiarism checker tools?
– Alone Programmer
4 hours ago




@DavidRicherby So, what is the exact meaning of these percentages from plagiarism checker tools?
– Alone Programmer
4 hours ago




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Moderator’s notice: I deleted a lot of comments since they are addressed by information added to the question. If you feel that some important information is still missing, please post a new comment (and @AloneProgrammer: please edit additional information into your question). Also please do not post answers as comments. Finally, please refrain from commenting that blindly relying on a automated plagiarism checker is stupid – you are preaching to the converted.
– Wrzlprmft♦
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Moderator’s notice: I deleted a lot of comments since they are addressed by information added to the question. If you feel that some important information is still missing, please post a new comment (and @AloneProgrammer: please edit additional information into your question). Also please do not post answers as comments. Finally, please refrain from commenting that blindly relying on a automated plagiarism checker is stupid – you are preaching to the converted.
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Chances are the journal ran your paper through an automated plagiarism checker (the only realistic way to check for plagiarism these days) and this 70% number is what the program found. That you found nothing using Turnitin isn't enough evidence to prove there was no plagiarism: a plagiarism checker is only as good as the data it has, and it's possible Turnitin doesn't have the original paper.



Having said that the journal should tell you which paper they think you've plagiarized from, as well as which sentences are plagiarized. If they don't, you should absolutely write back to ask. From your comments you've already done that, so there's nothing to do now except wait. The fact that at least two journals have checked your paper and found plagiarism is a bad sign; on the bright side, you can ask both journals for more details and it's less likely they both don't answer.



If they respond you'll be able to fix the plagiarism if it's there, or point out why there's no plagiarism if it isn't there.
If they don't respond after a reasonable time, then the only thing left to do is submit the paper elsewhere.






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    Also when you decide to submit the paper at a third journal you may want to upfront tell them that other journals have rejected your paper because of alleged plagiarism, but erroneously so; that you ensure them you have written it yourself using best practices; that it is your understanding that the standard plagiarism checks must come up with a false positive, so that this is to be expected; and ensure them of your full cooperation should any questions arise.
    – Peter A. Schneider
    10 hours ago






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    Also, write them that their checker might have registered your own pre-print as an "original" so they can recheck while exxcluding it
    – Hobbamok
    9 hours ago






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    @PeterA.Schneider I fear this self promotion for alleged plagiarism may induce some prior impression and could bias their decision.
    – Alone Programmer
    5 hours ago










  • @PeterA.Schneider: Do you have evidence that it is better to do that? Suppose the journal in question is a dis-reputable one. If the asker then submits to a reputable journal, should he/she really mention this debacle? Should not, in my opinion.
    – user21820
    1 hour ago










  • @AloneProgrammer, How hard is it to check the date and the name of the original author on the pre-print? It shouldn't be hard at all. Right? So why not explain the issue right from the get-go instead of wasting everybody's time communicating back and forth?
    – Stephan Branczyk
    1 hour ago










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Chances are the journal ran your paper through an automated plagiarism checker (the only realistic way to check for plagiarism these days) and this 70% number is what the program found. That you found nothing using Turnitin isn't enough evidence to prove there was no plagiarism: a plagiarism checker is only as good as the data it has, and it's possible Turnitin doesn't have the original paper.



Having said that the journal should tell you which paper they think you've plagiarized from, as well as which sentences are plagiarized. If they don't, you should absolutely write back to ask. From your comments you've already done that, so there's nothing to do now except wait. The fact that at least two journals have checked your paper and found plagiarism is a bad sign; on the bright side, you can ask both journals for more details and it's less likely they both don't answer.



If they respond you'll be able to fix the plagiarism if it's there, or point out why there's no plagiarism if it isn't there.
If they don't respond after a reasonable time, then the only thing left to do is submit the paper elsewhere.






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    Also when you decide to submit the paper at a third journal you may want to upfront tell them that other journals have rejected your paper because of alleged plagiarism, but erroneously so; that you ensure them you have written it yourself using best practices; that it is your understanding that the standard plagiarism checks must come up with a false positive, so that this is to be expected; and ensure them of your full cooperation should any questions arise.
    – Peter A. Schneider
    10 hours ago






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    Also, write them that their checker might have registered your own pre-print as an "original" so they can recheck while exxcluding it
    – Hobbamok
    9 hours ago






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    @PeterA.Schneider I fear this self promotion for alleged plagiarism may induce some prior impression and could bias their decision.
    – Alone Programmer
    5 hours ago










  • @PeterA.Schneider: Do you have evidence that it is better to do that? Suppose the journal in question is a dis-reputable one. If the asker then submits to a reputable journal, should he/she really mention this debacle? Should not, in my opinion.
    – user21820
    1 hour ago










  • @AloneProgrammer, How hard is it to check the date and the name of the original author on the pre-print? It shouldn't be hard at all. Right? So why not explain the issue right from the get-go instead of wasting everybody's time communicating back and forth?
    – Stephan Branczyk
    1 hour ago














up vote
40
down vote



accepted










Chances are the journal ran your paper through an automated plagiarism checker (the only realistic way to check for plagiarism these days) and this 70% number is what the program found. That you found nothing using Turnitin isn't enough evidence to prove there was no plagiarism: a plagiarism checker is only as good as the data it has, and it's possible Turnitin doesn't have the original paper.



Having said that the journal should tell you which paper they think you've plagiarized from, as well as which sentences are plagiarized. If they don't, you should absolutely write back to ask. From your comments you've already done that, so there's nothing to do now except wait. The fact that at least two journals have checked your paper and found plagiarism is a bad sign; on the bright side, you can ask both journals for more details and it's less likely they both don't answer.



If they respond you'll be able to fix the plagiarism if it's there, or point out why there's no plagiarism if it isn't there.
If they don't respond after a reasonable time, then the only thing left to do is submit the paper elsewhere.






share|improve this answer


















  • 9




    Also when you decide to submit the paper at a third journal you may want to upfront tell them that other journals have rejected your paper because of alleged plagiarism, but erroneously so; that you ensure them you have written it yourself using best practices; that it is your understanding that the standard plagiarism checks must come up with a false positive, so that this is to be expected; and ensure them of your full cooperation should any questions arise.
    – Peter A. Schneider
    10 hours ago






  • 5




    Also, write them that their checker might have registered your own pre-print as an "original" so they can recheck while exxcluding it
    – Hobbamok
    9 hours ago






  • 7




    @PeterA.Schneider I fear this self promotion for alleged plagiarism may induce some prior impression and could bias their decision.
    – Alone Programmer
    5 hours ago










  • @PeterA.Schneider: Do you have evidence that it is better to do that? Suppose the journal in question is a dis-reputable one. If the asker then submits to a reputable journal, should he/she really mention this debacle? Should not, in my opinion.
    – user21820
    1 hour ago










  • @AloneProgrammer, How hard is it to check the date and the name of the original author on the pre-print? It shouldn't be hard at all. Right? So why not explain the issue right from the get-go instead of wasting everybody's time communicating back and forth?
    – Stephan Branczyk
    1 hour ago












up vote
40
down vote



accepted







up vote
40
down vote



accepted






Chances are the journal ran your paper through an automated plagiarism checker (the only realistic way to check for plagiarism these days) and this 70% number is what the program found. That you found nothing using Turnitin isn't enough evidence to prove there was no plagiarism: a plagiarism checker is only as good as the data it has, and it's possible Turnitin doesn't have the original paper.



Having said that the journal should tell you which paper they think you've plagiarized from, as well as which sentences are plagiarized. If they don't, you should absolutely write back to ask. From your comments you've already done that, so there's nothing to do now except wait. The fact that at least two journals have checked your paper and found plagiarism is a bad sign; on the bright side, you can ask both journals for more details and it's less likely they both don't answer.



If they respond you'll be able to fix the plagiarism if it's there, or point out why there's no plagiarism if it isn't there.
If they don't respond after a reasonable time, then the only thing left to do is submit the paper elsewhere.






share|improve this answer














Chances are the journal ran your paper through an automated plagiarism checker (the only realistic way to check for plagiarism these days) and this 70% number is what the program found. That you found nothing using Turnitin isn't enough evidence to prove there was no plagiarism: a plagiarism checker is only as good as the data it has, and it's possible Turnitin doesn't have the original paper.



Having said that the journal should tell you which paper they think you've plagiarized from, as well as which sentences are plagiarized. If they don't, you should absolutely write back to ask. From your comments you've already done that, so there's nothing to do now except wait. The fact that at least two journals have checked your paper and found plagiarism is a bad sign; on the bright side, you can ask both journals for more details and it's less likely they both don't answer.



If they respond you'll be able to fix the plagiarism if it's there, or point out why there's no plagiarism if it isn't there.
If they don't respond after a reasonable time, then the only thing left to do is submit the paper elsewhere.







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    Also when you decide to submit the paper at a third journal you may want to upfront tell them that other journals have rejected your paper because of alleged plagiarism, but erroneously so; that you ensure them you have written it yourself using best practices; that it is your understanding that the standard plagiarism checks must come up with a false positive, so that this is to be expected; and ensure them of your full cooperation should any questions arise.
    – Peter A. Schneider
    10 hours ago






  • 5




    Also, write them that their checker might have registered your own pre-print as an "original" so they can recheck while exxcluding it
    – Hobbamok
    9 hours ago






  • 7




    @PeterA.Schneider I fear this self promotion for alleged plagiarism may induce some prior impression and could bias their decision.
    – Alone Programmer
    5 hours ago










  • @PeterA.Schneider: Do you have evidence that it is better to do that? Suppose the journal in question is a dis-reputable one. If the asker then submits to a reputable journal, should he/she really mention this debacle? Should not, in my opinion.
    – user21820
    1 hour ago










  • @AloneProgrammer, How hard is it to check the date and the name of the original author on the pre-print? It shouldn't be hard at all. Right? So why not explain the issue right from the get-go instead of wasting everybody's time communicating back and forth?
    – Stephan Branczyk
    1 hour ago












  • 9




    Also when you decide to submit the paper at a third journal you may want to upfront tell them that other journals have rejected your paper because of alleged plagiarism, but erroneously so; that you ensure them you have written it yourself using best practices; that it is your understanding that the standard plagiarism checks must come up with a false positive, so that this is to be expected; and ensure them of your full cooperation should any questions arise.
    – Peter A. Schneider
    10 hours ago






  • 5




    Also, write them that their checker might have registered your own pre-print as an "original" so they can recheck while exxcluding it
    – Hobbamok
    9 hours ago






  • 7




    @PeterA.Schneider I fear this self promotion for alleged plagiarism may induce some prior impression and could bias their decision.
    – Alone Programmer
    5 hours ago










  • @PeterA.Schneider: Do you have evidence that it is better to do that? Suppose the journal in question is a dis-reputable one. If the asker then submits to a reputable journal, should he/she really mention this debacle? Should not, in my opinion.
    – user21820
    1 hour ago










  • @AloneProgrammer, How hard is it to check the date and the name of the original author on the pre-print? It shouldn't be hard at all. Right? So why not explain the issue right from the get-go instead of wasting everybody's time communicating back and forth?
    – Stephan Branczyk
    1 hour ago







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Also when you decide to submit the paper at a third journal you may want to upfront tell them that other journals have rejected your paper because of alleged plagiarism, but erroneously so; that you ensure them you have written it yourself using best practices; that it is your understanding that the standard plagiarism checks must come up with a false positive, so that this is to be expected; and ensure them of your full cooperation should any questions arise.
– Peter A. Schneider
10 hours ago




Also when you decide to submit the paper at a third journal you may want to upfront tell them that other journals have rejected your paper because of alleged plagiarism, but erroneously so; that you ensure them you have written it yourself using best practices; that it is your understanding that the standard plagiarism checks must come up with a false positive, so that this is to be expected; and ensure them of your full cooperation should any questions arise.
– Peter A. Schneider
10 hours ago




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Also, write them that their checker might have registered your own pre-print as an "original" so they can recheck while exxcluding it
– Hobbamok
9 hours ago




Also, write them that their checker might have registered your own pre-print as an "original" so they can recheck while exxcluding it
– Hobbamok
9 hours ago




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@PeterA.Schneider I fear this self promotion for alleged plagiarism may induce some prior impression and could bias their decision.
– Alone Programmer
5 hours ago




@PeterA.Schneider I fear this self promotion for alleged plagiarism may induce some prior impression and could bias their decision.
– Alone Programmer
5 hours ago












@PeterA.Schneider: Do you have evidence that it is better to do that? Suppose the journal in question is a dis-reputable one. If the asker then submits to a reputable journal, should he/she really mention this debacle? Should not, in my opinion.
– user21820
1 hour ago




@PeterA.Schneider: Do you have evidence that it is better to do that? Suppose the journal in question is a dis-reputable one. If the asker then submits to a reputable journal, should he/she really mention this debacle? Should not, in my opinion.
– user21820
1 hour ago












@AloneProgrammer, How hard is it to check the date and the name of the original author on the pre-print? It shouldn't be hard at all. Right? So why not explain the issue right from the get-go instead of wasting everybody's time communicating back and forth?
– Stephan Branczyk
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@AloneProgrammer, How hard is it to check the date and the name of the original author on the pre-print? It shouldn't be hard at all. Right? So why not explain the issue right from the get-go instead of wasting everybody's time communicating back and forth?
– Stephan Branczyk
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