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In my Tonal Harmony book by Kostka and Payne, it says: when rhythms are notated, it is customary to use beams,ties and dots in such a way that the metric accent is emphasized rather than obscured.
What does this mean? I always thought the first note in a measure has to be played with forte accent, how are ties and beams related to this concept?
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In my Tonal Harmony book by Kostka and Payne, it says: when rhythms are notated, it is customary to use beams,ties and dots in such a way that the metric accent is emphasized rather than obscured.
What does this mean? I always thought the first note in a measure has to be played with forte accent, how are ties and beams related to this concept?
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Kaushik
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In my Tonal Harmony book by Kostka and Payne, it says: when rhythms are notated, it is customary to use beams,ties and dots in such a way that the metric accent is emphasized rather than obscured.
What does this mean? I always thought the first note in a measure has to be played with forte accent, how are ties and beams related to this concept?
theory piano time-signatures
asked 5 hours ago
Kaushik
1335
In my Tonal Harmony book by Kostka and Payne, it says: when rhythms are notated, it is customary to use beams,ties and dots in such a way that the metric accent is emphasized rather than obscured.
What does this mean? I always thought the first note in a measure has to be played with forte accent, how are ties and beams related to this concept?
theory piano time-signatures
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Kaushik
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As an example think of 6/8 meter versus 3/4. The barring helps you visually understand the pulse.
In 6/8 you have two pulses and get two barred groups...
In 3/4 you have three pulses and get three barred groups...
...see how the barring visually reinforces the number of pulses?
Normal 4/4 would be...
...but I suppose you could do something like...
> > >
_____ _____ ___
| | | | | | | |
...to visually emphasize a pattern with off beat accents
answered 4 hours ago
Michael Curtis
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Your initial thought (emphasize downbeat) is incorrect in general. Yes, much of the time some emphasis, rather gentle, is added, but lots of music has multi-bar phrasing which is best performed with almost no accent on any of the base meter beats.
I am not familiar with the book in question, but I might guess that what they mean to say is that phrasing marks should bring out the desired emphasis patterns (not the base metrics).
answered 5 hours ago
Carl Witthoft
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It's very dependent on the sort of music in question. Dance music would hardly be dance music if the dancers could not discern where beat 1 is ! Hence - emphasised.
– Tim
5 hours ago
1
@Tim well, yes for a walz or tango, no for some thundering rave DJ club. :-)
– Carl Witthoft
4 hours ago
1
At a thundering rave, isn't every beat the emphasised beat 1?
– Tim
3 hours ago
1
@Tim, yep, that was my point.
– Carl Witthoft
2 hours ago
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2 Answers
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As an example think of 6/8 meter versus 3/4. The barring helps you visually understand the pulse.
In 6/8 you have two pulses and get two barred groups...
In 3/4 you have three pulses and get three barred groups...
...see how the barring visually reinforces the number of pulses?
Normal 4/4 would be...
...but I suppose you could do something like...
> > >
_____ _____ ___
| | | | | | | |
...to visually emphasize a pattern with off beat accents
answered 4 hours ago
Michael Curtis
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As an example think of 6/8 meter versus 3/4. The barring helps you visually understand the pulse.
In 6/8 you have two pulses and get two barred groups...
In 3/4 you have three pulses and get three barred groups...
...see how the barring visually reinforces the number of pulses?
Normal 4/4 would be...
...but I suppose you could do something like...
> > >
_____ _____ ___
| | | | | | | |
...to visually emphasize a pattern with off beat accents
answered 4 hours ago
Michael Curtis
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up vote
4
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As an example think of 6/8 meter versus 3/4. The barring helps you visually understand the pulse.
In 6/8 you have two pulses and get two barred groups...
In 3/4 you have three pulses and get three barred groups...
...see how the barring visually reinforces the number of pulses?
Normal 4/4 would be...
...but I suppose you could do something like...
> > >
_____ _____ ___
| | | | | | | |
...to visually emphasize a pattern with off beat accents
answered 4 hours ago
Michael Curtis
2,106315
As an example think of 6/8 meter versus 3/4. The barring helps you visually understand the pulse.
In 6/8 you have two pulses and get two barred groups...
In 3/4 you have three pulses and get three barred groups...
...see how the barring visually reinforces the number of pulses?
Normal 4/4 would be...
...but I suppose you could do something like...
> > >
_____ _____ ___
| | | | | | | |
...to visually emphasize a pattern with off beat accents
answered 4 hours ago
Michael Curtis
2,106315
answered 4 hours ago
Michael Curtis
2,106315
answered 4 hours ago
Michael Curtis
2,106315
answered 4 hours ago
Michael Curtis
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Your initial thought (emphasize downbeat) is incorrect in general. Yes, much of the time some emphasis, rather gentle, is added, but lots of music has multi-bar phrasing which is best performed with almost no accent on any of the base meter beats.
I am not familiar with the book in question, but I might guess that what they mean to say is that phrasing marks should bring out the desired emphasis patterns (not the base metrics).
answered 5 hours ago
Carl Witthoft
7,30411128
2
It's very dependent on the sort of music in question. Dance music would hardly be dance music if the dancers could not discern where beat 1 is ! Hence - emphasised.
– Tim
5 hours ago
1
@Tim well, yes for a walz or tango, no for some thundering rave DJ club. :-)
– Carl Witthoft
4 hours ago
1
At a thundering rave, isn't every beat the emphasised beat 1?
– Tim
3 hours ago
1
@Tim, yep, that was my point.
– Carl Witthoft
2 hours ago
add a comment |Â
up vote
1
down vote
Your initial thought (emphasize downbeat) is incorrect in general. Yes, much of the time some emphasis, rather gentle, is added, but lots of music has multi-bar phrasing which is best performed with almost no accent on any of the base meter beats.
I am not familiar with the book in question, but I might guess that what they mean to say is that phrasing marks should bring out the desired emphasis patterns (not the base metrics).
answered 5 hours ago
Carl Witthoft
7,30411128
2
It's very dependent on the sort of music in question. Dance music would hardly be dance music if the dancers could not discern where beat 1 is ! Hence - emphasised.
– Tim
5 hours ago
1
@Tim well, yes for a walz or tango, no for some thundering rave DJ club. :-)
– Carl Witthoft
4 hours ago
1
At a thundering rave, isn't every beat the emphasised beat 1?
– Tim
3 hours ago
1
@Tim, yep, that was my point.
– Carl Witthoft
2 hours ago
add a comment |Â
up vote
1
down vote
up vote
1
down vote
Your initial thought (emphasize downbeat) is incorrect in general. Yes, much of the time some emphasis, rather gentle, is added, but lots of music has multi-bar phrasing which is best performed with almost no accent on any of the base meter beats.
I am not familiar with the book in question, but I might guess that what they mean to say is that phrasing marks should bring out the desired emphasis patterns (not the base metrics).
answered 5 hours ago
Carl Witthoft
7,30411128
Your initial thought (emphasize downbeat) is incorrect in general. Yes, much of the time some emphasis, rather gentle, is added, but lots of music has multi-bar phrasing which is best performed with almost no accent on any of the base meter beats.
I am not familiar with the book in question, but I might guess that what they mean to say is that phrasing marks should bring out the desired emphasis patterns (not the base metrics).
answered 5 hours ago
Carl Witthoft
7,30411128
answered 5 hours ago
Carl Witthoft
7,30411128
answered 5 hours ago
Carl Witthoft
7,30411128
answered 5 hours ago
Carl Witthoft
7,30411128
7,30411128
2
It's very dependent on the sort of music in question. Dance music would hardly be dance music if the dancers could not discern where beat 1 is ! Hence - emphasised.
– Tim
5 hours ago
1
@Tim well, yes for a walz or tango, no for some thundering rave DJ club. :-)
– Carl Witthoft
4 hours ago
1
At a thundering rave, isn't every beat the emphasised beat 1?
– Tim
3 hours ago
1
@Tim, yep, that was my point.
– Carl Witthoft
2 hours ago
add a comment |Â
2
It's very dependent on the sort of music in question. Dance music would hardly be dance music if the dancers could not discern where beat 1 is ! Hence - emphasised.
– Tim
5 hours ago
1
@Tim well, yes for a walz or tango, no for some thundering rave DJ club. :-)
– Carl Witthoft
4 hours ago
1
At a thundering rave, isn't every beat the emphasised beat 1?
– Tim
3 hours ago
1
@Tim, yep, that was my point.
– Carl Witthoft
2 hours ago
2
2
It's very dependent on the sort of music in question. Dance music would hardly be dance music if the dancers could not discern where beat 1 is ! Hence - emphasised.
– Tim
5 hours ago
It's very dependent on the sort of music in question. Dance music would hardly be dance music if the dancers could not discern where beat 1 is ! Hence - emphasised.
– Tim
5 hours ago
1
1
@Tim well, yes for a walz or tango, no for some thundering rave DJ club. :-)
– Carl Witthoft
4 hours ago
@Tim well, yes for a walz or tango, no for some thundering rave DJ club. :-)
– Carl Witthoft
4 hours ago
1
1
At a thundering rave, isn't every beat the emphasised beat 1?
– Tim
3 hours ago
At a thundering rave, isn't every beat the emphasised beat 1?
– Tim
3 hours ago
1
1
@Tim, yep, that was my point.
– Carl Witthoft
2 hours ago
@Tim, yep, that was my point.
– Carl Witthoft
2 hours ago
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