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In a society where everyone receives equal education regardless of who they are, why would they all have to go to a boarding school, rather than a public school?
This is at no extra cost to the parents. They are kept in dorms separated by age, and are required to attend from ages 5-16. They are not allowed to just opt out of schooling.
In the case that it helps, the people doing this are dwarves. They are your typical Tolkien ones at this point in development. The children are taught subjects like math, language, history, science, life skills, and physical education along with whichever options they choose. This is also a very fair, equal society.
EDIT: I am judging by plausibility and cost effectiveness.
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In a society where everyone receives equal education regardless of who they are, why would they all have to go to a boarding school, rather than a public school?
This is at no extra cost to the parents. They are kept in dorms separated by age, and are required to attend from ages 5-16. They are not allowed to just opt out of schooling.
In the case that it helps, the people doing this are dwarves. They are your typical Tolkien ones at this point in development. The children are taught subjects like math, language, history, science, life skills, and physical education along with whichever options they choose. This is also a very fair, equal society.
EDIT: I am judging by plausibility and cost effectiveness.
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Maybe the dwarves have a fascist society? Such an obligation can have only one reason, namely ideological indoctrination. Or maybe the dwarves are subjects of a foreign empire, which want to extirpate the dwarven tongue and dwarven culture.
– AlexP
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You answer your own question: the state decrees that they have to receive an equal education not based on background. The state enforces by sending them to a boarding school where the state is in control, not the parents.
– dot_Sp0T
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This sounds very opinion based - can you please expand on how will you (and how should we) judge an answer? What would make one answer better than another.
– G0BLiN
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Edited, please tell me if that will do
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that was a mis click, sorry. i had intended to wait, but i hadn't noticed that i had clicked it. it is a good answer though and i'll probably accept it in a day or so
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In a society where everyone receives equal education regardless of who they are, why would they all have to go to a boarding school, rather than a public school?
This is at no extra cost to the parents. They are kept in dorms separated by age, and are required to attend from ages 5-16. They are not allowed to just opt out of schooling.
In the case that it helps, the people doing this are dwarves. They are your typical Tolkien ones at this point in development. The children are taught subjects like math, language, history, science, life skills, and physical education along with whichever options they choose. This is also a very fair, equal society.
EDIT: I am judging by plausibility and cost effectiveness.
society education children
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In a society where everyone receives equal education regardless of who they are, why would they all have to go to a boarding school, rather than a public school?
This is at no extra cost to the parents. They are kept in dorms separated by age, and are required to attend from ages 5-16. They are not allowed to just opt out of schooling.
In the case that it helps, the people doing this are dwarves. They are your typical Tolkien ones at this point in development. The children are taught subjects like math, language, history, science, life skills, and physical education along with whichever options they choose. This is also a very fair, equal society.
EDIT: I am judging by plausibility and cost effectiveness.
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Maybe the dwarves have a fascist society? Such an obligation can have only one reason, namely ideological indoctrination. Or maybe the dwarves are subjects of a foreign empire, which want to extirpate the dwarven tongue and dwarven culture.
– AlexP
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You answer your own question: the state decrees that they have to receive an equal education not based on background. The state enforces by sending them to a boarding school where the state is in control, not the parents.
– dot_Sp0T
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This sounds very opinion based - can you please expand on how will you (and how should we) judge an answer? What would make one answer better than another.
– G0BLiN
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Edited, please tell me if that will do
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that was a mis click, sorry. i had intended to wait, but i hadn't noticed that i had clicked it. it is a good answer though and i'll probably accept it in a day or so
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Maybe the dwarves have a fascist society? Such an obligation can have only one reason, namely ideological indoctrination. Or maybe the dwarves are subjects of a foreign empire, which want to extirpate the dwarven tongue and dwarven culture.
– AlexP
12 hours ago
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You answer your own question: the state decrees that they have to receive an equal education not based on background. The state enforces by sending them to a boarding school where the state is in control, not the parents.
– dot_Sp0T
12 hours ago
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This sounds very opinion based - can you please expand on how will you (and how should we) judge an answer? What would make one answer better than another.
– G0BLiN
12 hours ago
Edited, please tell me if that will do
– AzaleaGarden
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that was a mis click, sorry. i had intended to wait, but i hadn't noticed that i had clicked it. it is a good answer though and i'll probably accept it in a day or so
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Maybe the dwarves have a fascist society? Such an obligation can have only one reason, namely ideological indoctrination. Or maybe the dwarves are subjects of a foreign empire, which want to extirpate the dwarven tongue and dwarven culture.
– AlexP
12 hours ago
Maybe the dwarves have a fascist society? Such an obligation can have only one reason, namely ideological indoctrination. Or maybe the dwarves are subjects of a foreign empire, which want to extirpate the dwarven tongue and dwarven culture.
– AlexP
12 hours ago
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You answer your own question: the state decrees that they have to receive an equal education not based on background. The state enforces by sending them to a boarding school where the state is in control, not the parents.
– dot_Sp0T
12 hours ago
You answer your own question: the state decrees that they have to receive an equal education not based on background. The state enforces by sending them to a boarding school where the state is in control, not the parents.
– dot_Sp0T
12 hours ago
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This sounds very opinion based - can you please expand on how will you (and how should we) judge an answer? What would make one answer better than another.
– G0BLiN
12 hours ago
This sounds very opinion based - can you please expand on how will you (and how should we) judge an answer? What would make one answer better than another.
– G0BLiN
12 hours ago
Edited, please tell me if that will do
– AzaleaGarden
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Edited, please tell me if that will do
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that was a mis click, sorry. i had intended to wait, but i hadn't noticed that i had clicked it. it is a good answer though and i'll probably accept it in a day or so
– AzaleaGarden
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that was a mis click, sorry. i had intended to wait, but i hadn't noticed that i had clicked it. it is a good answer though and i'll probably accept it in a day or so
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The dwarven boarding school system is designed for the betterment of dwarven society as a whole and to place dwarves where they are most likely to succeed, with no regard for family values, pedigree, or social status. Incompetent dwarves will not rise due to nepotism, and skilled dwarves will not smothered by social conventions.
In short, the dwarves love Plato's Republic, or at least some of the hypothetical cities described therein.
Among other topics, Plato discusses how to properly raise children in several hypothetical 'just' societies, and describes systems that fit your scenario pretty well:
Now early life is very impressible, and children ought not
to learn what they will have to unlearn when they grow up; we must therefore
have a censorship of nursery tales, banishing some and keeping others.
...
The tale must be
imparted, first to the rulers, then to the soldiers, lastly to the people. We will inform them that their youth was a dream, and that during the time when they
seemed to be undergoing their education they were really being fashioned in
the earth, who sent them up when they were ready; and that they must protect
and cherish her whose children they are, and regard each other as brothers and
sisters.
...
These brothers and sisters have different natures, and
some of them God framed to rule, whom he fashioned of gold; others he made
of silver, to be auxiliaries; others again to be husbandmen and craftsmen, and
these were formed by him of brass and iron. But as they are all sprung from
a common stock, a golden parent may have a silver son, or a silver parent a
golden son, and then there must be a change of rank; the son of the rich must
descend, and the child of the artisan rise
Since all dwarves are equal then all dwarven children are equal, and they must be removed from their families to receive an equal education in order to continue the dwarven meritocracy.
If children stay with their parents, then not all children will receive the same education: children of carpenters will learn carpentry, children of bankers will learn banking, etc. Furthermore, this may prevent them from rising to their true potential, as the child of a carpenter may never realize their natural skill at banking, or vice versa.
answered 12 hours ago
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Great answer - and too close to my idea for me to add another answer. In addition to being viewed as beneficial and fair for the children, a boarding school system will also make the parents free to follow their path - not everyone is qualified to raise and educate a child - more so for a long-living race (which also matures more slowly). This allows both male and female dwarves to be more productive (as miners, smiths, artisans, soldiers etc.). Finally, this communal education encourages the camaraderie between the children - strengthening the coherence and loyalty of the dwarf clan.
– G0BLiN
11 hours ago
The problem is that meritocracies are fundamentally at odds with equal societies. Why? Because you're smarter than me, and I'm stronger than you. That's not equality.
– RonJohn
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@RonJohn: Since the focus was on schooling, I interpreted it as 'equal opportunity to succeed' and not 'equal throughout all of society'. Everyone receives the same education, but those that score highest on math tests are given jobs as mathematicians or engineers and those that score highest on their physicals are given jobs as soldiers or laborers, but obviously mathematician and soldier are not equal positions.
– Giter
11 hours ago
"I interpreted it as 'equal opportunity to succeed". Ideologues who value equality tend to value equality of outcome, not equality of opportunity. They get highly agitated when females choose people-oriented occupations instead of STEM or the military.
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It takes a village to raise a child
This dwarves' society is highly communal. The nuclear family, a foundation block of human society, plays a much lower role, or maybe even doesn't exist at all. This is why children can't stay with the parents for a long time, and the entire community has to bear the responsibility of taking care of their youth. Over time, this process got formalized, with standard regimen, education curriculum and dormitories. "Public schools" in human sense just don't exist. Parents either have to send their children to boarding school, or raise them at home (which would be not common at all).
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Efficiency.
With conventional public schools, every locale needs to provide all of the infrastructure for a school system. That's fine for cities, but for sparsely-populated areas, either the cost per student goes up or the amount of focus goes down. An example of the latter is the one-room schoolhouse where one teacher instructs students at several grade levels because there just aren't enough students to divide them by grade level, age, or ability. Everybody still learns, but maybe not as much as they would in a larger school system.
So instead, your dwarves ship everybody off to the central school, where economies of scale can take effect. Students can be divided up into groups (classes) based on their abilities and then given focused instructions. While, back home, an exceptional student (at either end of the scale) would be expected to just cope with the median-level education, here at Dwarf U there's a whole class full of similar people.
Because your dwarven settlements aren't large, though, you can't do this within easy commuting distance of home. So everybody gets sent to the central school where they stay for the academic year (or other reasonable unit). If you're doing a Republic-style just city you just leave them there until they're "baked"; if you want more interaction between dwarven parents and their children, you send them home periodically.
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Like you said, Equality.
Even if the schools were the same, some Dwarves are rich, and some Dwarves are poor. Some have great advantages due to their home life, others none at all. By enforcing boarding school, it levels the playing field because all Dwarves have, in theory, the same schooling and 'home' life.
Another possible reason is Social Cohesion
A great contributor in social cohesion is shared experience. For example, military basic training. The boarding school requirement provides a system that all Dwarves, rich and poor, share. Leading to a tighter knit society, something that is crucial for their survival underground.
(Not sure either of those actually work in the real world, but it may for your Dwarves)
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In a society where everyone receives equal education regardless of who they are, why would they all have to go to a boarding school, rather than a public school?
To train the students in ideas and social norms that many parents disagree with.
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Unions
Since typical Tolkienesque dwarves place a high emphasis on trades/crafts skills, it'd be likely for them to unionise. There'd be little reason for the dwarf education profession to not follow suit. With enough centralisation of the school system, boarding schools would likely become the predominant or even the only form of school; public schools would be a minority at best or totally consigned to the history books. Unions or guilds could be the predominant organisation in dwarf society whose authority is second only to that of the king.
As mentioned by Monica this would be more efficient(or at least seen as such). Boarding schools would allow the children to be totally immersed in their community and whichever craft they are studying at the time. As a (probably) unintentional side effect, being separated from the comforts of home for a long time surrounded mainly their peers would also teach the children what a prolonged labour strike is like.
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The dwarven boarding school system is designed for the betterment of dwarven society as a whole and to place dwarves where they are most likely to succeed, with no regard for family values, pedigree, or social status. Incompetent dwarves will not rise due to nepotism, and skilled dwarves will not smothered by social conventions.
In short, the dwarves love Plato's Republic, or at least some of the hypothetical cities described therein.
Among other topics, Plato discusses how to properly raise children in several hypothetical 'just' societies, and describes systems that fit your scenario pretty well:
Now early life is very impressible, and children ought not
to learn what they will have to unlearn when they grow up; we must therefore
have a censorship of nursery tales, banishing some and keeping others.
...
The tale must be
imparted, first to the rulers, then to the soldiers, lastly to the people. We will inform them that their youth was a dream, and that during the time when they
seemed to be undergoing their education they were really being fashioned in
the earth, who sent them up when they were ready; and that they must protect
and cherish her whose children they are, and regard each other as brothers and
sisters.
...
These brothers and sisters have different natures, and
some of them God framed to rule, whom he fashioned of gold; others he made
of silver, to be auxiliaries; others again to be husbandmen and craftsmen, and
these were formed by him of brass and iron. But as they are all sprung from
a common stock, a golden parent may have a silver son, or a silver parent a
golden son, and then there must be a change of rank; the son of the rich must
descend, and the child of the artisan rise
Since all dwarves are equal then all dwarven children are equal, and they must be removed from their families to receive an equal education in order to continue the dwarven meritocracy.
If children stay with their parents, then not all children will receive the same education: children of carpenters will learn carpentry, children of bankers will learn banking, etc. Furthermore, this may prevent them from rising to their true potential, as the child of a carpenter may never realize their natural skill at banking, or vice versa.
answered 12 hours ago
Giter
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Great answer - and too close to my idea for me to add another answer. In addition to being viewed as beneficial and fair for the children, a boarding school system will also make the parents free to follow their path - not everyone is qualified to raise and educate a child - more so for a long-living race (which also matures more slowly). This allows both male and female dwarves to be more productive (as miners, smiths, artisans, soldiers etc.). Finally, this communal education encourages the camaraderie between the children - strengthening the coherence and loyalty of the dwarf clan.
– G0BLiN
11 hours ago
The problem is that meritocracies are fundamentally at odds with equal societies. Why? Because you're smarter than me, and I'm stronger than you. That's not equality.
– RonJohn
11 hours ago
1
@RonJohn: Since the focus was on schooling, I interpreted it as 'equal opportunity to succeed' and not 'equal throughout all of society'. Everyone receives the same education, but those that score highest on math tests are given jobs as mathematicians or engineers and those that score highest on their physicals are given jobs as soldiers or laborers, but obviously mathematician and soldier are not equal positions.
– Giter
11 hours ago
"I interpreted it as 'equal opportunity to succeed". Ideologues who value equality tend to value equality of outcome, not equality of opportunity. They get highly agitated when females choose people-oriented occupations instead of STEM or the military.
– RonJohn
11 hours ago
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The dwarven boarding school system is designed for the betterment of dwarven society as a whole and to place dwarves where they are most likely to succeed, with no regard for family values, pedigree, or social status. Incompetent dwarves will not rise due to nepotism, and skilled dwarves will not smothered by social conventions.
In short, the dwarves love Plato's Republic, or at least some of the hypothetical cities described therein.
Among other topics, Plato discusses how to properly raise children in several hypothetical 'just' societies, and describes systems that fit your scenario pretty well:
Now early life is very impressible, and children ought not
to learn what they will have to unlearn when they grow up; we must therefore
have a censorship of nursery tales, banishing some and keeping others.
...
The tale must be
imparted, first to the rulers, then to the soldiers, lastly to the people. We will inform them that their youth was a dream, and that during the time when they
seemed to be undergoing their education they were really being fashioned in
the earth, who sent them up when they were ready; and that they must protect
and cherish her whose children they are, and regard each other as brothers and
sisters.
...
These brothers and sisters have different natures, and
some of them God framed to rule, whom he fashioned of gold; others he made
of silver, to be auxiliaries; others again to be husbandmen and craftsmen, and
these were formed by him of brass and iron. But as they are all sprung from
a common stock, a golden parent may have a silver son, or a silver parent a
golden son, and then there must be a change of rank; the son of the rich must
descend, and the child of the artisan rise
Since all dwarves are equal then all dwarven children are equal, and they must be removed from their families to receive an equal education in order to continue the dwarven meritocracy.
If children stay with their parents, then not all children will receive the same education: children of carpenters will learn carpentry, children of bankers will learn banking, etc. Furthermore, this may prevent them from rising to their true potential, as the child of a carpenter may never realize their natural skill at banking, or vice versa.
answered 12 hours ago
Giter
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Great answer - and too close to my idea for me to add another answer. In addition to being viewed as beneficial and fair for the children, a boarding school system will also make the parents free to follow their path - not everyone is qualified to raise and educate a child - more so for a long-living race (which also matures more slowly). This allows both male and female dwarves to be more productive (as miners, smiths, artisans, soldiers etc.). Finally, this communal education encourages the camaraderie between the children - strengthening the coherence and loyalty of the dwarf clan.
– G0BLiN
11 hours ago
The problem is that meritocracies are fundamentally at odds with equal societies. Why? Because you're smarter than me, and I'm stronger than you. That's not equality.
– RonJohn
11 hours ago
1
@RonJohn: Since the focus was on schooling, I interpreted it as 'equal opportunity to succeed' and not 'equal throughout all of society'. Everyone receives the same education, but those that score highest on math tests are given jobs as mathematicians or engineers and those that score highest on their physicals are given jobs as soldiers or laborers, but obviously mathematician and soldier are not equal positions.
– Giter
11 hours ago
"I interpreted it as 'equal opportunity to succeed". Ideologues who value equality tend to value equality of outcome, not equality of opportunity. They get highly agitated when females choose people-oriented occupations instead of STEM or the military.
– RonJohn
11 hours ago
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The dwarven boarding school system is designed for the betterment of dwarven society as a whole and to place dwarves where they are most likely to succeed, with no regard for family values, pedigree, or social status. Incompetent dwarves will not rise due to nepotism, and skilled dwarves will not smothered by social conventions.
In short, the dwarves love Plato's Republic, or at least some of the hypothetical cities described therein.
Among other topics, Plato discusses how to properly raise children in several hypothetical 'just' societies, and describes systems that fit your scenario pretty well:
Now early life is very impressible, and children ought not
to learn what they will have to unlearn when they grow up; we must therefore
have a censorship of nursery tales, banishing some and keeping others.
...
The tale must be
imparted, first to the rulers, then to the soldiers, lastly to the people. We will inform them that their youth was a dream, and that during the time when they
seemed to be undergoing their education they were really being fashioned in
the earth, who sent them up when they were ready; and that they must protect
and cherish her whose children they are, and regard each other as brothers and
sisters.
...
These brothers and sisters have different natures, and
some of them God framed to rule, whom he fashioned of gold; others he made
of silver, to be auxiliaries; others again to be husbandmen and craftsmen, and
these were formed by him of brass and iron. But as they are all sprung from
a common stock, a golden parent may have a silver son, or a silver parent a
golden son, and then there must be a change of rank; the son of the rich must
descend, and the child of the artisan rise
Since all dwarves are equal then all dwarven children are equal, and they must be removed from their families to receive an equal education in order to continue the dwarven meritocracy.
If children stay with their parents, then not all children will receive the same education: children of carpenters will learn carpentry, children of bankers will learn banking, etc. Furthermore, this may prevent them from rising to their true potential, as the child of a carpenter may never realize their natural skill at banking, or vice versa.
answered 12 hours ago
Giter
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The dwarven boarding school system is designed for the betterment of dwarven society as a whole and to place dwarves where they are most likely to succeed, with no regard for family values, pedigree, or social status. Incompetent dwarves will not rise due to nepotism, and skilled dwarves will not smothered by social conventions.
In short, the dwarves love Plato's Republic, or at least some of the hypothetical cities described therein.
Among other topics, Plato discusses how to properly raise children in several hypothetical 'just' societies, and describes systems that fit your scenario pretty well:
Now early life is very impressible, and children ought not
to learn what they will have to unlearn when they grow up; we must therefore
have a censorship of nursery tales, banishing some and keeping others.
...
The tale must be
imparted, first to the rulers, then to the soldiers, lastly to the people. We will inform them that their youth was a dream, and that during the time when they
seemed to be undergoing their education they were really being fashioned in
the earth, who sent them up when they were ready; and that they must protect
and cherish her whose children they are, and regard each other as brothers and
sisters.
...
These brothers and sisters have different natures, and
some of them God framed to rule, whom he fashioned of gold; others he made
of silver, to be auxiliaries; others again to be husbandmen and craftsmen, and
these were formed by him of brass and iron. But as they are all sprung from
a common stock, a golden parent may have a silver son, or a silver parent a
golden son, and then there must be a change of rank; the son of the rich must
descend, and the child of the artisan rise
Since all dwarves are equal then all dwarven children are equal, and they must be removed from their families to receive an equal education in order to continue the dwarven meritocracy.
If children stay with their parents, then not all children will receive the same education: children of carpenters will learn carpentry, children of bankers will learn banking, etc. Furthermore, this may prevent them from rising to their true potential, as the child of a carpenter may never realize their natural skill at banking, or vice versa.
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Great answer - and too close to my idea for me to add another answer. In addition to being viewed as beneficial and fair for the children, a boarding school system will also make the parents free to follow their path - not everyone is qualified to raise and educate a child - more so for a long-living race (which also matures more slowly). This allows both male and female dwarves to be more productive (as miners, smiths, artisans, soldiers etc.). Finally, this communal education encourages the camaraderie between the children - strengthening the coherence and loyalty of the dwarf clan.
– G0BLiN
11 hours ago
The problem is that meritocracies are fundamentally at odds with equal societies. Why? Because you're smarter than me, and I'm stronger than you. That's not equality.
– RonJohn
11 hours ago
1
@RonJohn: Since the focus was on schooling, I interpreted it as 'equal opportunity to succeed' and not 'equal throughout all of society'. Everyone receives the same education, but those that score highest on math tests are given jobs as mathematicians or engineers and those that score highest on their physicals are given jobs as soldiers or laborers, but obviously mathematician and soldier are not equal positions.
– Giter
11 hours ago
"I interpreted it as 'equal opportunity to succeed". Ideologues who value equality tend to value equality of outcome, not equality of opportunity. They get highly agitated when females choose people-oriented occupations instead of STEM or the military.
– RonJohn
11 hours ago
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Great answer - and too close to my idea for me to add another answer. In addition to being viewed as beneficial and fair for the children, a boarding school system will also make the parents free to follow their path - not everyone is qualified to raise and educate a child - more so for a long-living race (which also matures more slowly). This allows both male and female dwarves to be more productive (as miners, smiths, artisans, soldiers etc.). Finally, this communal education encourages the camaraderie between the children - strengthening the coherence and loyalty of the dwarf clan.
– G0BLiN
11 hours ago
The problem is that meritocracies are fundamentally at odds with equal societies. Why? Because you're smarter than me, and I'm stronger than you. That's not equality.
– RonJohn
11 hours ago
1
@RonJohn: Since the focus was on schooling, I interpreted it as 'equal opportunity to succeed' and not 'equal throughout all of society'. Everyone receives the same education, but those that score highest on math tests are given jobs as mathematicians or engineers and those that score highest on their physicals are given jobs as soldiers or laborers, but obviously mathematician and soldier are not equal positions.
– Giter
11 hours ago
"I interpreted it as 'equal opportunity to succeed". Ideologues who value equality tend to value equality of outcome, not equality of opportunity. They get highly agitated when females choose people-oriented occupations instead of STEM or the military.
– RonJohn
11 hours ago
Great answer - and too close to my idea for me to add another answer. In addition to being viewed as beneficial and fair for the children, a boarding school system will also make the parents free to follow their path - not everyone is qualified to raise and educate a child - more so for a long-living race (which also matures more slowly). This allows both male and female dwarves to be more productive (as miners, smiths, artisans, soldiers etc.). Finally, this communal education encourages the camaraderie between the children - strengthening the coherence and loyalty of the dwarf clan.
– G0BLiN
11 hours ago
Great answer - and too close to my idea for me to add another answer. In addition to being viewed as beneficial and fair for the children, a boarding school system will also make the parents free to follow their path - not everyone is qualified to raise and educate a child - more so for a long-living race (which also matures more slowly). This allows both male and female dwarves to be more productive (as miners, smiths, artisans, soldiers etc.). Finally, this communal education encourages the camaraderie between the children - strengthening the coherence and loyalty of the dwarf clan.
– G0BLiN
11 hours ago
The problem is that meritocracies are fundamentally at odds with equal societies. Why? Because you're smarter than me, and I'm stronger than you. That's not equality.
– RonJohn
11 hours ago
The problem is that meritocracies are fundamentally at odds with equal societies. Why? Because you're smarter than me, and I'm stronger than you. That's not equality.
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@RonJohn: Since the focus was on schooling, I interpreted it as 'equal opportunity to succeed' and not 'equal throughout all of society'. Everyone receives the same education, but those that score highest on math tests are given jobs as mathematicians or engineers and those that score highest on their physicals are given jobs as soldiers or laborers, but obviously mathematician and soldier are not equal positions.
– Giter
11 hours ago
@RonJohn: Since the focus was on schooling, I interpreted it as 'equal opportunity to succeed' and not 'equal throughout all of society'. Everyone receives the same education, but those that score highest on math tests are given jobs as mathematicians or engineers and those that score highest on their physicals are given jobs as soldiers or laborers, but obviously mathematician and soldier are not equal positions.
– Giter
11 hours ago
"I interpreted it as 'equal opportunity to succeed". Ideologues who value equality tend to value equality of outcome, not equality of opportunity. They get highly agitated when females choose people-oriented occupations instead of STEM or the military.
– RonJohn
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"I interpreted it as 'equal opportunity to succeed". Ideologues who value equality tend to value equality of outcome, not equality of opportunity. They get highly agitated when females choose people-oriented occupations instead of STEM or the military.
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It takes a village to raise a child
This dwarves' society is highly communal. The nuclear family, a foundation block of human society, plays a much lower role, or maybe even doesn't exist at all. This is why children can't stay with the parents for a long time, and the entire community has to bear the responsibility of taking care of their youth. Over time, this process got formalized, with standard regimen, education curriculum and dormitories. "Public schools" in human sense just don't exist. Parents either have to send their children to boarding school, or raise them at home (which would be not common at all).
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It takes a village to raise a child
This dwarves' society is highly communal. The nuclear family, a foundation block of human society, plays a much lower role, or maybe even doesn't exist at all. This is why children can't stay with the parents for a long time, and the entire community has to bear the responsibility of taking care of their youth. Over time, this process got formalized, with standard regimen, education curriculum and dormitories. "Public schools" in human sense just don't exist. Parents either have to send their children to boarding school, or raise them at home (which would be not common at all).
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It takes a village to raise a child
This dwarves' society is highly communal. The nuclear family, a foundation block of human society, plays a much lower role, or maybe even doesn't exist at all. This is why children can't stay with the parents for a long time, and the entire community has to bear the responsibility of taking care of their youth. Over time, this process got formalized, with standard regimen, education curriculum and dormitories. "Public schools" in human sense just don't exist. Parents either have to send their children to boarding school, or raise them at home (which would be not common at all).
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It takes a village to raise a child
This dwarves' society is highly communal. The nuclear family, a foundation block of human society, plays a much lower role, or maybe even doesn't exist at all. This is why children can't stay with the parents for a long time, and the entire community has to bear the responsibility of taking care of their youth. Over time, this process got formalized, with standard regimen, education curriculum and dormitories. "Public schools" in human sense just don't exist. Parents either have to send their children to boarding school, or raise them at home (which would be not common at all).
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Efficiency.
With conventional public schools, every locale needs to provide all of the infrastructure for a school system. That's fine for cities, but for sparsely-populated areas, either the cost per student goes up or the amount of focus goes down. An example of the latter is the one-room schoolhouse where one teacher instructs students at several grade levels because there just aren't enough students to divide them by grade level, age, or ability. Everybody still learns, but maybe not as much as they would in a larger school system.
So instead, your dwarves ship everybody off to the central school, where economies of scale can take effect. Students can be divided up into groups (classes) based on their abilities and then given focused instructions. While, back home, an exceptional student (at either end of the scale) would be expected to just cope with the median-level education, here at Dwarf U there's a whole class full of similar people.
Because your dwarven settlements aren't large, though, you can't do this within easy commuting distance of home. So everybody gets sent to the central school where they stay for the academic year (or other reasonable unit). If you're doing a Republic-style just city you just leave them there until they're "baked"; if you want more interaction between dwarven parents and their children, you send them home periodically.
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Efficiency.
With conventional public schools, every locale needs to provide all of the infrastructure for a school system. That's fine for cities, but for sparsely-populated areas, either the cost per student goes up or the amount of focus goes down. An example of the latter is the one-room schoolhouse where one teacher instructs students at several grade levels because there just aren't enough students to divide them by grade level, age, or ability. Everybody still learns, but maybe not as much as they would in a larger school system.
So instead, your dwarves ship everybody off to the central school, where economies of scale can take effect. Students can be divided up into groups (classes) based on their abilities and then given focused instructions. While, back home, an exceptional student (at either end of the scale) would be expected to just cope with the median-level education, here at Dwarf U there's a whole class full of similar people.
Because your dwarven settlements aren't large, though, you can't do this within easy commuting distance of home. So everybody gets sent to the central school where they stay for the academic year (or other reasonable unit). If you're doing a Republic-style just city you just leave them there until they're "baked"; if you want more interaction between dwarven parents and their children, you send them home periodically.
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Efficiency.
With conventional public schools, every locale needs to provide all of the infrastructure for a school system. That's fine for cities, but for sparsely-populated areas, either the cost per student goes up or the amount of focus goes down. An example of the latter is the one-room schoolhouse where one teacher instructs students at several grade levels because there just aren't enough students to divide them by grade level, age, or ability. Everybody still learns, but maybe not as much as they would in a larger school system.
So instead, your dwarves ship everybody off to the central school, where economies of scale can take effect. Students can be divided up into groups (classes) based on their abilities and then given focused instructions. While, back home, an exceptional student (at either end of the scale) would be expected to just cope with the median-level education, here at Dwarf U there's a whole class full of similar people.
Because your dwarven settlements aren't large, though, you can't do this within easy commuting distance of home. So everybody gets sent to the central school where they stay for the academic year (or other reasonable unit). If you're doing a Republic-style just city you just leave them there until they're "baked"; if you want more interaction between dwarven parents and their children, you send them home periodically.
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Efficiency.
With conventional public schools, every locale needs to provide all of the infrastructure for a school system. That's fine for cities, but for sparsely-populated areas, either the cost per student goes up or the amount of focus goes down. An example of the latter is the one-room schoolhouse where one teacher instructs students at several grade levels because there just aren't enough students to divide them by grade level, age, or ability. Everybody still learns, but maybe not as much as they would in a larger school system.
So instead, your dwarves ship everybody off to the central school, where economies of scale can take effect. Students can be divided up into groups (classes) based on their abilities and then given focused instructions. While, back home, an exceptional student (at either end of the scale) would be expected to just cope with the median-level education, here at Dwarf U there's a whole class full of similar people.
Because your dwarven settlements aren't large, though, you can't do this within easy commuting distance of home. So everybody gets sent to the central school where they stay for the academic year (or other reasonable unit). If you're doing a Republic-style just city you just leave them there until they're "baked"; if you want more interaction between dwarven parents and their children, you send them home periodically.
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Like you said, Equality.
Even if the schools were the same, some Dwarves are rich, and some Dwarves are poor. Some have great advantages due to their home life, others none at all. By enforcing boarding school, it levels the playing field because all Dwarves have, in theory, the same schooling and 'home' life.
Another possible reason is Social Cohesion
A great contributor in social cohesion is shared experience. For example, military basic training. The boarding school requirement provides a system that all Dwarves, rich and poor, share. Leading to a tighter knit society, something that is crucial for their survival underground.
(Not sure either of those actually work in the real world, but it may for your Dwarves)
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Like you said, Equality.
Even if the schools were the same, some Dwarves are rich, and some Dwarves are poor. Some have great advantages due to their home life, others none at all. By enforcing boarding school, it levels the playing field because all Dwarves have, in theory, the same schooling and 'home' life.
Another possible reason is Social Cohesion
A great contributor in social cohesion is shared experience. For example, military basic training. The boarding school requirement provides a system that all Dwarves, rich and poor, share. Leading to a tighter knit society, something that is crucial for their survival underground.
(Not sure either of those actually work in the real world, but it may for your Dwarves)
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Like you said, Equality.
Even if the schools were the same, some Dwarves are rich, and some Dwarves are poor. Some have great advantages due to their home life, others none at all. By enforcing boarding school, it levels the playing field because all Dwarves have, in theory, the same schooling and 'home' life.
Another possible reason is Social Cohesion
A great contributor in social cohesion is shared experience. For example, military basic training. The boarding school requirement provides a system that all Dwarves, rich and poor, share. Leading to a tighter knit society, something that is crucial for their survival underground.
(Not sure either of those actually work in the real world, but it may for your Dwarves)
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Like you said, Equality.
Even if the schools were the same, some Dwarves are rich, and some Dwarves are poor. Some have great advantages due to their home life, others none at all. By enforcing boarding school, it levels the playing field because all Dwarves have, in theory, the same schooling and 'home' life.
Another possible reason is Social Cohesion
A great contributor in social cohesion is shared experience. For example, military basic training. The boarding school requirement provides a system that all Dwarves, rich and poor, share. Leading to a tighter knit society, something that is crucial for their survival underground.
(Not sure either of those actually work in the real world, but it may for your Dwarves)
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In a society where everyone receives equal education regardless of who they are, why would they all have to go to a boarding school, rather than a public school?
To train the students in ideas and social norms that many parents disagree with.
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In a society where everyone receives equal education regardless of who they are, why would they all have to go to a boarding school, rather than a public school?
To train the students in ideas and social norms that many parents disagree with.
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In a society where everyone receives equal education regardless of who they are, why would they all have to go to a boarding school, rather than a public school?
To train the students in ideas and social norms that many parents disagree with.
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In a society where everyone receives equal education regardless of who they are, why would they all have to go to a boarding school, rather than a public school?
To train the students in ideas and social norms that many parents disagree with.
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Unions
Since typical Tolkienesque dwarves place a high emphasis on trades/crafts skills, it'd be likely for them to unionise. There'd be little reason for the dwarf education profession to not follow suit. With enough centralisation of the school system, boarding schools would likely become the predominant or even the only form of school; public schools would be a minority at best or totally consigned to the history books. Unions or guilds could be the predominant organisation in dwarf society whose authority is second only to that of the king.
As mentioned by Monica this would be more efficient(or at least seen as such). Boarding schools would allow the children to be totally immersed in their community and whichever craft they are studying at the time. As a (probably) unintentional side effect, being separated from the comforts of home for a long time surrounded mainly their peers would also teach the children what a prolonged labour strike is like.
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Unions
Since typical Tolkienesque dwarves place a high emphasis on trades/crafts skills, it'd be likely for them to unionise. There'd be little reason for the dwarf education profession to not follow suit. With enough centralisation of the school system, boarding schools would likely become the predominant or even the only form of school; public schools would be a minority at best or totally consigned to the history books. Unions or guilds could be the predominant organisation in dwarf society whose authority is second only to that of the king.
As mentioned by Monica this would be more efficient(or at least seen as such). Boarding schools would allow the children to be totally immersed in their community and whichever craft they are studying at the time. As a (probably) unintentional side effect, being separated from the comforts of home for a long time surrounded mainly their peers would also teach the children what a prolonged labour strike is like.
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Since typical Tolkienesque dwarves place a high emphasis on trades/crafts skills, it'd be likely for them to unionise. There'd be little reason for the dwarf education profession to not follow suit. With enough centralisation of the school system, boarding schools would likely become the predominant or even the only form of school; public schools would be a minority at best or totally consigned to the history books. Unions or guilds could be the predominant organisation in dwarf society whose authority is second only to that of the king.
As mentioned by Monica this would be more efficient(or at least seen as such). Boarding schools would allow the children to be totally immersed in their community and whichever craft they are studying at the time. As a (probably) unintentional side effect, being separated from the comforts of home for a long time surrounded mainly their peers would also teach the children what a prolonged labour strike is like.
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Since typical Tolkienesque dwarves place a high emphasis on trades/crafts skills, it'd be likely for them to unionise. There'd be little reason for the dwarf education profession to not follow suit. With enough centralisation of the school system, boarding schools would likely become the predominant or even the only form of school; public schools would be a minority at best or totally consigned to the history books. Unions or guilds could be the predominant organisation in dwarf society whose authority is second only to that of the king.
As mentioned by Monica this would be more efficient(or at least seen as such). Boarding schools would allow the children to be totally immersed in their community and whichever craft they are studying at the time. As a (probably) unintentional side effect, being separated from the comforts of home for a long time surrounded mainly their peers would also teach the children what a prolonged labour strike is like.
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Maybe the dwarves have a fascist society? Such an obligation can have only one reason, namely ideological indoctrination. Or maybe the dwarves are subjects of a foreign empire, which want to extirpate the dwarven tongue and dwarven culture.
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You answer your own question: the state decrees that they have to receive an equal education not based on background. The state enforces by sending them to a boarding school where the state is in control, not the parents.
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This sounds very opinion based - can you please expand on how will you (and how should we) judge an answer? What would make one answer better than another.
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Edited, please tell me if that will do
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that was a mis click, sorry. i had intended to wait, but i hadn't noticed that i had clicked it. it is a good answer though and i'll probably accept it in a day or so
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