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Does being told you're not liked and asked to quit meet the legal definition of harassment under the UK Equality Act of 2010?
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I've been looking at the UK Equality Act 2010 act and it says harassment is unwanted or unwelcome behaviour which is meant to or has the effect of violating your dignity. If people literally come up to you and say, "We don't like you and you should quit," then this is classed as harassment, right?
I mean ostracism is like the opposite of this and its classed as harassment.
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I've been looking at the UK Equality Act 2010 act and it says harassment is unwanted or unwelcome behaviour which is meant to or has the effect of violating your dignity. If people literally come up to you and say, "We don't like you and you should quit," then this is classed as harassment, right?
I mean ostracism is like the opposite of this and its classed as harassment.
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Depending upon who said it and what their position is it may form part of a constructive dismissal claim. Seeing your other question it would seem that this statement is part of a larger picture of harassment in the work place and it sounds awful - I'd strongly suggest talking to an employment solicitor and/or ACAS about the situation. Good luck!
– motosubatsu
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We really need to know more about the setting, if it was a formal review by your manager the situation is very different from a random colleague rocking up at your desk.
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Is this actually occurring or is it a hypothetical question?
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The Equality Act provides protection against harassment based on protected characteristics - i.e. race, gender, religion, etc. - do you have reason to believe the harassment against you is based on such a characteristic? This effects what kind of answer should be given.
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Do you have any idea why this person/these people feel this way about you? The cause of their actions affects the answer.
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I've been looking at the UK Equality Act 2010 act and it says harassment is unwanted or unwelcome behaviour which is meant to or has the effect of violating your dignity. If people literally come up to you and say, "We don't like you and you should quit," then this is classed as harassment, right?
I mean ostracism is like the opposite of this and its classed as harassment.
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I've been looking at the UK Equality Act 2010 act and it says harassment is unwanted or unwelcome behaviour which is meant to or has the effect of violating your dignity. If people literally come up to you and say, "We don't like you and you should quit," then this is classed as harassment, right?
I mean ostracism is like the opposite of this and its classed as harassment.
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Depending upon who said it and what their position is it may form part of a constructive dismissal claim. Seeing your other question it would seem that this statement is part of a larger picture of harassment in the work place and it sounds awful - I'd strongly suggest talking to an employment solicitor and/or ACAS about the situation. Good luck!
– motosubatsu
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We really need to know more about the setting, if it was a formal review by your manager the situation is very different from a random colleague rocking up at your desk.
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Is this actually occurring or is it a hypothetical question?
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The Equality Act provides protection against harassment based on protected characteristics - i.e. race, gender, religion, etc. - do you have reason to believe the harassment against you is based on such a characteristic? This effects what kind of answer should be given.
– Jack Aidley
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Do you have any idea why this person/these people feel this way about you? The cause of their actions affects the answer.
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Depending upon who said it and what their position is it may form part of a constructive dismissal claim. Seeing your other question it would seem that this statement is part of a larger picture of harassment in the work place and it sounds awful - I'd strongly suggest talking to an employment solicitor and/or ACAS about the situation. Good luck!
– motosubatsu
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We really need to know more about the setting, if it was a formal review by your manager the situation is very different from a random colleague rocking up at your desk.
– Borgh
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Is this actually occurring or is it a hypothetical question?
– Burgi
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The Equality Act provides protection against harassment based on protected characteristics - i.e. race, gender, religion, etc. - do you have reason to believe the harassment against you is based on such a characteristic? This effects what kind of answer should be given.
– Jack Aidley
yesterday
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Do you have any idea why this person/these people feel this way about you? The cause of their actions affects the answer.
– jpmc26
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Depending upon who said it and what their position is it may form part of a constructive dismissal claim. Seeing your other question it would seem that this statement is part of a larger picture of harassment in the work place and it sounds awful - I'd strongly suggest talking to an employment solicitor and/or ACAS about the situation. Good luck!
– motosubatsu
yesterday
Depending upon who said it and what their position is it may form part of a constructive dismissal claim. Seeing your other question it would seem that this statement is part of a larger picture of harassment in the work place and it sounds awful - I'd strongly suggest talking to an employment solicitor and/or ACAS about the situation. Good luck!
– motosubatsu
yesterday
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We really need to know more about the setting, if it was a formal review by your manager the situation is very different from a random colleague rocking up at your desk.
– Borgh
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We really need to know more about the setting, if it was a formal review by your manager the situation is very different from a random colleague rocking up at your desk.
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Is this actually occurring or is it a hypothetical question?
– Burgi
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Is this actually occurring or is it a hypothetical question?
– Burgi
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The Equality Act provides protection against harassment based on protected characteristics - i.e. race, gender, religion, etc. - do you have reason to believe the harassment against you is based on such a characteristic? This effects what kind of answer should be given.
– Jack Aidley
yesterday
The Equality Act provides protection against harassment based on protected characteristics - i.e. race, gender, religion, etc. - do you have reason to believe the harassment against you is based on such a characteristic? This effects what kind of answer should be given.
– Jack Aidley
yesterday
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Do you have any idea why this person/these people feel this way about you? The cause of their actions affects the answer.
– jpmc26
23 hours ago
Do you have any idea why this person/these people feel this way about you? The cause of their actions affects the answer.
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I'm Canadian, we have similar laws but not identical.
This is something that needs to be addressed by your company HR department. That behaviour is unacceptable and cannot be condoned.
That being said, I'd also start looking for another job. You've probably done nothing wrong to warrant this behavior by others, so this may seem unfair. However, a company that has employees that think they can get away with this behaviour, is a company with some deeper issues that need to be fixed at a higher level.
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"You've probably done nothing wrong to warrant this behavior by others..." This is rampant speculation. On the contrary, the OP seems to indicate that multiple people feel this way, which is enough evidence to at least consider the possibility. That doesn't justify their behavior, but we also shouldn't readily assume there's no fault on the OP's part, either. In particular, if they go to HR, anything that might be causing it could come to light, leaving all sides in hot water.
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@jpmc26 I get it, absolute speculation. The way I phrased it was an attempt to appease OPs, most likely, bias/preconception. Probably not the best wording I agree. I'll leave it. The gist of the post is that this is an HR issue.
– Victor Procure
23 hours ago
@jpmc26 Speculation aside (which you are correct about), "you should quit" is never an acceptable approach to conflict. If it comes from an official source, that's effectively strongarming someone so they do not need to pay them severance; if it comes from an unofficial source, it's at the very least aggressive bullying. Also, OP could've avoided the speculation without really changing the answer: "This may seem unfair if you didn't actually do anything to warrant this behavior, but..."
– Flater
9 hours ago
@Flater Repeating myself: "That doesn't justify their behavior..." Of course this answer could've been worded differently; the whole point of comments is to point out problems so they can be fixed.
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It is harassment.
Don't take this lightly, you don't want it to escalate behind your back.
It's also a threat, sometimes the sort of people who would say something like this can get physical, already the implication is there is more than one and this is not the end of it, it's not a friendly 'heads up'. I got a lot of this in blue collar jobs and bouncing, my policy was always to call their bluff.
But I've had a lot of stitches in my time.
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Someone saying "We don't like you." is a threat?
– Minix
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@AaronHall 'whats your problem clown?' or similar with varying degrees of politeness depending on the circumstances. But could also be a finger gesture, or in the case of fellow bouncers at some point you have to prove you can physically take care of yourself, so you might as well just show them and cut the chitchat altogether..
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WHAT DO You mean by stitches like you got beat up?
– bakalolo
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@Minix "We don't like you. You should quit." (the full quote) could be seen to have an implied threat (depending on context, tone of voice etc. can't tell from the plain text) as it could infer that hostile behavior towards the recipient may continue or escalate if they don't quit.
– motosubatsu
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This answer could be improved by fleshing out what is meant by "call their bluff". For example, do you act like they actually do like you, and they're being great kidders? Or something else? Why have you had stitches? Are you implying someone you worked with injured you after telling you they don't like you?
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This is completely unacceptable in many ways, including legally.
While only a court can definitively pronounce on what is harassment, this is virtually certain to fall within that category.
You should immediately take this up with the company. Start with your boss, but if he does nothing (or he is one of the people involved) go to HR. Tell them what has happened, tell them you believe it is both harassement and workplace bullying. Tell them you want to file a formal complaint. If you are in a union or professional association then also get their advice (preferably before going to HR). If race, gender, sexuality or religion are involved then tell HR that as well. The combination of those will virtually force them to take action. The company has a legal responsibility to prevent this kind of thing. If they are the kind of company that won't do that, despite legal responsibilities, you are definitely better off elsewhere.
You should expect that disciplinary action is taken against the people involved, and that HR tells you that they have done something and that it will not happen again. If there is any repetition, or any attempt to punish you for the report, then tell HR immediately.
If HR refuses to take effective action you have the option of getting a lawyer and seeing if there is a case for suing them. This is potentially expensive, but if you are in a union then the union will often bear the legal costs for you. You might find that the threat makes them clean up their act. But if it gets to that point you are wise to have the option of another job to go to. If you do not want to take legal action then quitting is the only option.
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Don't have statutes to hand, but I had enough training as a manager to know it's the case.
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But voting down other answers is much easier.
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If you have a union always talk to them before a lawyer, and in serious cases like this probably before HR.
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@DJClayworth: Unless it's the union members doing the harassing...
– jamesqf
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@jamesqf Especially if its the union members doing the harassing, as long as they aren't your specific rep (and even then, you can find another rep to talk to).
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This is 100% Harassment and any judge will side with you on this.
Contact a lawyer to see if something can be done about it as they're breaking the Equality act as you've mentioned and if the company does nothing about this to protect you then you could be suitable for a claim especially if you mention that you no longer feel comfortable to work in such an environment and workplace (which is not lies) and that your dignity has been knocked.
If HR side with the "bullies" you could be in for a good claim if you fight a good case
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Hi Twyxz, HR side with the bullies so that's out, was thinking of having my union rep there to see what would happen. The place is literally lawless. Its full of little people with big ego's. I seriously think they don't know that there are employment laws made by the government for the workplace. I'm not going to just quit but will accept a severance package if it comes to it.
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@KennyBarber If you have been to HR already then please edit information about what happened into the question.
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You can also respond in a supercorrect way:
Thank you, sir/madam, for pointing this out to me. You mentioned the word 'we', so you're not the only one with this opinion.
I'd like you to get a full list of names, followed by their autographs, where colleagues confirm this statement.
Can you deliver me this paper? Thanks in advance.
In case (s)he gives you this list, you might use it and file harassment charges against every person on that list.
But I think it won't go that far: that bully will realise that you dare standing up to his/her harassment, and even if (s)he tries to get this list from other colleagues, it's very doubtful that anybody will dare putting his/her name and/or autograph on it.
And you don't even need to wait for that person to come to you again. You can go to this person and say:
Recently you told me that you (in plural) don't want me here and that you want me to quit. Please provide me with a list of names, followed by their autographs...
Good luck
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I'd just stay put. Realistically, they can't actually push you out and if you log this with HR, whoever said this to you shouldn't be able to act on it without getting fired. My company would consider what they've done as harassment, and if you tell HR about it and they try to take revenge on you for it they've committed retaliation, which is a much bigger and far worse can of worms.
Bottom line, if you work for a company that is at least semi-serious whoever told you this just took the first step in getting themselves fired.
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They CAN push you out. Once they realize you are aware of your rights, they will start manufacturing a legal excuse to claim as the reason. And unless they are stupid or careless, they’ll get away with it.
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Unless the harrassment is directly linked to your race, gender or religeon then the Equalities Act is unlikely to be of any help to you.
That said, you still have a case, because you're right; this kind of behaviour, pushing people out of a job, will definitely get companies in trouble.
If you end up leaving the job because of the reasons you stated, then you have a strong case to sue them for Constructive Dismissal. You will obviously need to have evidence to support your claim, but given suitable evidence, and assuming your side of the story is accurate, then it should be a clear cut case.
My advice:
- Start collecting evidence now, if you haven't already. Get everything you can in writing. Save any relevant emails (I suggest printing them).
- Talk to people who can help. Visit your local Citizens' Advice Bureau (CAB). Get legal advice (please note that nothing I've said here is legal advice!). If you have a union, talk to them too.
- If your company has a HR department, consider talking to them. Their responsibility is to the company, not to you, but they will want to prevent the company getting into legal trouble if you do get pushed out. Their remedies may include disciplining those doing the harrassment. Or if the situation can't be saved, they may be able to make a compromise agreement with you that gives you a pay-off to leave the company without raising a legal fight.
- Regardless of any of the above, brush up your CV and start looking for alternative employment. Honestly, if your colleagues dislike you enough for things to get to this point then the situation is probably not salvageable; no-one is going to be happy if you stay put, least of all you; you're going to spend your whole time wondering what people think of you.
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I'm Canadian, we have similar laws but not identical.
This is something that needs to be addressed by your company HR department. That behaviour is unacceptable and cannot be condoned.
That being said, I'd also start looking for another job. You've probably done nothing wrong to warrant this behavior by others, so this may seem unfair. However, a company that has employees that think they can get away with this behaviour, is a company with some deeper issues that need to be fixed at a higher level.
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"You've probably done nothing wrong to warrant this behavior by others..." This is rampant speculation. On the contrary, the OP seems to indicate that multiple people feel this way, which is enough evidence to at least consider the possibility. That doesn't justify their behavior, but we also shouldn't readily assume there's no fault on the OP's part, either. In particular, if they go to HR, anything that might be causing it could come to light, leaving all sides in hot water.
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@jpmc26 I get it, absolute speculation. The way I phrased it was an attempt to appease OPs, most likely, bias/preconception. Probably not the best wording I agree. I'll leave it. The gist of the post is that this is an HR issue.
– Victor Procure
23 hours ago
@jpmc26 Speculation aside (which you are correct about), "you should quit" is never an acceptable approach to conflict. If it comes from an official source, that's effectively strongarming someone so they do not need to pay them severance; if it comes from an unofficial source, it's at the very least aggressive bullying. Also, OP could've avoided the speculation without really changing the answer: "This may seem unfair if you didn't actually do anything to warrant this behavior, but..."
– Flater
9 hours ago
@Flater Repeating myself: "That doesn't justify their behavior..." Of course this answer could've been worded differently; the whole point of comments is to point out problems so they can be fixed.
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I'm Canadian, we have similar laws but not identical.
This is something that needs to be addressed by your company HR department. That behaviour is unacceptable and cannot be condoned.
That being said, I'd also start looking for another job. You've probably done nothing wrong to warrant this behavior by others, so this may seem unfair. However, a company that has employees that think they can get away with this behaviour, is a company with some deeper issues that need to be fixed at a higher level.
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"You've probably done nothing wrong to warrant this behavior by others..." This is rampant speculation. On the contrary, the OP seems to indicate that multiple people feel this way, which is enough evidence to at least consider the possibility. That doesn't justify their behavior, but we also shouldn't readily assume there's no fault on the OP's part, either. In particular, if they go to HR, anything that might be causing it could come to light, leaving all sides in hot water.
– jpmc26
23 hours ago
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@jpmc26 I get it, absolute speculation. The way I phrased it was an attempt to appease OPs, most likely, bias/preconception. Probably not the best wording I agree. I'll leave it. The gist of the post is that this is an HR issue.
– Victor Procure
23 hours ago
@jpmc26 Speculation aside (which you are correct about), "you should quit" is never an acceptable approach to conflict. If it comes from an official source, that's effectively strongarming someone so they do not need to pay them severance; if it comes from an unofficial source, it's at the very least aggressive bullying. Also, OP could've avoided the speculation without really changing the answer: "This may seem unfair if you didn't actually do anything to warrant this behavior, but..."
– Flater
9 hours ago
@Flater Repeating myself: "That doesn't justify their behavior..." Of course this answer could've been worded differently; the whole point of comments is to point out problems so they can be fixed.
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I'm Canadian, we have similar laws but not identical.
This is something that needs to be addressed by your company HR department. That behaviour is unacceptable and cannot be condoned.
That being said, I'd also start looking for another job. You've probably done nothing wrong to warrant this behavior by others, so this may seem unfair. However, a company that has employees that think they can get away with this behaviour, is a company with some deeper issues that need to be fixed at a higher level.
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I'm Canadian, we have similar laws but not identical.
This is something that needs to be addressed by your company HR department. That behaviour is unacceptable and cannot be condoned.
That being said, I'd also start looking for another job. You've probably done nothing wrong to warrant this behavior by others, so this may seem unfair. However, a company that has employees that think they can get away with this behaviour, is a company with some deeper issues that need to be fixed at a higher level.
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"You've probably done nothing wrong to warrant this behavior by others..." This is rampant speculation. On the contrary, the OP seems to indicate that multiple people feel this way, which is enough evidence to at least consider the possibility. That doesn't justify their behavior, but we also shouldn't readily assume there's no fault on the OP's part, either. In particular, if they go to HR, anything that might be causing it could come to light, leaving all sides in hot water.
– jpmc26
23 hours ago
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@jpmc26 I get it, absolute speculation. The way I phrased it was an attempt to appease OPs, most likely, bias/preconception. Probably not the best wording I agree. I'll leave it. The gist of the post is that this is an HR issue.
– Victor Procure
23 hours ago
@jpmc26 Speculation aside (which you are correct about), "you should quit" is never an acceptable approach to conflict. If it comes from an official source, that's effectively strongarming someone so they do not need to pay them severance; if it comes from an unofficial source, it's at the very least aggressive bullying. Also, OP could've avoided the speculation without really changing the answer: "This may seem unfair if you didn't actually do anything to warrant this behavior, but..."
– Flater
9 hours ago
@Flater Repeating myself: "That doesn't justify their behavior..." Of course this answer could've been worded differently; the whole point of comments is to point out problems so they can be fixed.
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9 hours ago
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"You've probably done nothing wrong to warrant this behavior by others..." This is rampant speculation. On the contrary, the OP seems to indicate that multiple people feel this way, which is enough evidence to at least consider the possibility. That doesn't justify their behavior, but we also shouldn't readily assume there's no fault on the OP's part, either. In particular, if they go to HR, anything that might be causing it could come to light, leaving all sides in hot water.
– jpmc26
23 hours ago
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@jpmc26 I get it, absolute speculation. The way I phrased it was an attempt to appease OPs, most likely, bias/preconception. Probably not the best wording I agree. I'll leave it. The gist of the post is that this is an HR issue.
– Victor Procure
23 hours ago
@jpmc26 Speculation aside (which you are correct about), "you should quit" is never an acceptable approach to conflict. If it comes from an official source, that's effectively strongarming someone so they do not need to pay them severance; if it comes from an unofficial source, it's at the very least aggressive bullying. Also, OP could've avoided the speculation without really changing the answer: "This may seem unfair if you didn't actually do anything to warrant this behavior, but..."
– Flater
9 hours ago
@Flater Repeating myself: "That doesn't justify their behavior..." Of course this answer could've been worded differently; the whole point of comments is to point out problems so they can be fixed.
– jpmc26
9 hours ago
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54
"You've probably done nothing wrong to warrant this behavior by others..." This is rampant speculation. On the contrary, the OP seems to indicate that multiple people feel this way, which is enough evidence to at least consider the possibility. That doesn't justify their behavior, but we also shouldn't readily assume there's no fault on the OP's part, either. In particular, if they go to HR, anything that might be causing it could come to light, leaving all sides in hot water.
– jpmc26
23 hours ago
"You've probably done nothing wrong to warrant this behavior by others..." This is rampant speculation. On the contrary, the OP seems to indicate that multiple people feel this way, which is enough evidence to at least consider the possibility. That doesn't justify their behavior, but we also shouldn't readily assume there's no fault on the OP's part, either. In particular, if they go to HR, anything that might be causing it could come to light, leaving all sides in hot water.
– jpmc26
23 hours ago
9
9
@jpmc26 I get it, absolute speculation. The way I phrased it was an attempt to appease OPs, most likely, bias/preconception. Probably not the best wording I agree. I'll leave it. The gist of the post is that this is an HR issue.
– Victor Procure
23 hours ago
@jpmc26 I get it, absolute speculation. The way I phrased it was an attempt to appease OPs, most likely, bias/preconception. Probably not the best wording I agree. I'll leave it. The gist of the post is that this is an HR issue.
– Victor Procure
23 hours ago
@jpmc26 Speculation aside (which you are correct about), "you should quit" is never an acceptable approach to conflict. If it comes from an official source, that's effectively strongarming someone so they do not need to pay them severance; if it comes from an unofficial source, it's at the very least aggressive bullying. Also, OP could've avoided the speculation without really changing the answer: "This may seem unfair if you didn't actually do anything to warrant this behavior, but..."
– Flater
9 hours ago
@jpmc26 Speculation aside (which you are correct about), "you should quit" is never an acceptable approach to conflict. If it comes from an official source, that's effectively strongarming someone so they do not need to pay them severance; if it comes from an unofficial source, it's at the very least aggressive bullying. Also, OP could've avoided the speculation without really changing the answer: "This may seem unfair if you didn't actually do anything to warrant this behavior, but..."
– Flater
9 hours ago
@Flater Repeating myself: "That doesn't justify their behavior..." Of course this answer could've been worded differently; the whole point of comments is to point out problems so they can be fixed.
– jpmc26
9 hours ago
@Flater Repeating myself: "That doesn't justify their behavior..." Of course this answer could've been worded differently; the whole point of comments is to point out problems so they can be fixed.
– jpmc26
9 hours ago
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It is harassment.
Don't take this lightly, you don't want it to escalate behind your back.
It's also a threat, sometimes the sort of people who would say something like this can get physical, already the implication is there is more than one and this is not the end of it, it's not a friendly 'heads up'. I got a lot of this in blue collar jobs and bouncing, my policy was always to call their bluff.
But I've had a lot of stitches in my time.
answered yesterday
Kilisi
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Someone saying "We don't like you." is a threat?
– Minix
23 hours ago
2
@AaronHall 'whats your problem clown?' or similar with varying degrees of politeness depending on the circumstances. But could also be a finger gesture, or in the case of fellow bouncers at some point you have to prove you can physically take care of yourself, so you might as well just show them and cut the chitchat altogether..
– Kilisi
21 hours ago
1
WHAT DO You mean by stitches like you got beat up?
– bakalolo
13 hours ago
1
@Minix "We don't like you. You should quit." (the full quote) could be seen to have an implied threat (depending on context, tone of voice etc. can't tell from the plain text) as it could infer that hostile behavior towards the recipient may continue or escalate if they don't quit.
– motosubatsu
26 mins ago
This answer could be improved by fleshing out what is meant by "call their bluff". For example, do you act like they actually do like you, and they're being great kidders? Or something else? Why have you had stitches? Are you implying someone you worked with injured you after telling you they don't like you?
– Aaron Hall
24 mins ago
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up vote
18
down vote
It is harassment.
Don't take this lightly, you don't want it to escalate behind your back.
It's also a threat, sometimes the sort of people who would say something like this can get physical, already the implication is there is more than one and this is not the end of it, it's not a friendly 'heads up'. I got a lot of this in blue collar jobs and bouncing, my policy was always to call their bluff.
But I've had a lot of stitches in my time.
answered yesterday
Kilisi
99.8k55226391
7
Someone saying "We don't like you." is a threat?
– Minix
23 hours ago
2
@AaronHall 'whats your problem clown?' or similar with varying degrees of politeness depending on the circumstances. But could also be a finger gesture, or in the case of fellow bouncers at some point you have to prove you can physically take care of yourself, so you might as well just show them and cut the chitchat altogether..
– Kilisi
21 hours ago
1
WHAT DO You mean by stitches like you got beat up?
– bakalolo
13 hours ago
1
@Minix "We don't like you. You should quit." (the full quote) could be seen to have an implied threat (depending on context, tone of voice etc. can't tell from the plain text) as it could infer that hostile behavior towards the recipient may continue or escalate if they don't quit.
– motosubatsu
26 mins ago
This answer could be improved by fleshing out what is meant by "call their bluff". For example, do you act like they actually do like you, and they're being great kidders? Or something else? Why have you had stitches? Are you implying someone you worked with injured you after telling you they don't like you?
– Aaron Hall
24 mins ago
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up vote
18
down vote
up vote
18
down vote
It is harassment.
Don't take this lightly, you don't want it to escalate behind your back.
It's also a threat, sometimes the sort of people who would say something like this can get physical, already the implication is there is more than one and this is not the end of it, it's not a friendly 'heads up'. I got a lot of this in blue collar jobs and bouncing, my policy was always to call their bluff.
But I've had a lot of stitches in my time.
answered yesterday
Kilisi
99.8k55226391
It is harassment.
Don't take this lightly, you don't want it to escalate behind your back.
It's also a threat, sometimes the sort of people who would say something like this can get physical, already the implication is there is more than one and this is not the end of it, it's not a friendly 'heads up'. I got a lot of this in blue collar jobs and bouncing, my policy was always to call their bluff.
But I've had a lot of stitches in my time.
answered yesterday
Kilisi
99.8k55226391
edited yesterday
answered yesterday
Kilisi
99.8k55226391
answered yesterday
Kilisi
99.8k55226391
answered yesterday
Kilisi
99.8k55226391
99.8k55226391
7
Someone saying "We don't like you." is a threat?
– Minix
23 hours ago
2
@AaronHall 'whats your problem clown?' or similar with varying degrees of politeness depending on the circumstances. But could also be a finger gesture, or in the case of fellow bouncers at some point you have to prove you can physically take care of yourself, so you might as well just show them and cut the chitchat altogether..
– Kilisi
21 hours ago
1
WHAT DO You mean by stitches like you got beat up?
– bakalolo
13 hours ago
1
@Minix "We don't like you. You should quit." (the full quote) could be seen to have an implied threat (depending on context, tone of voice etc. can't tell from the plain text) as it could infer that hostile behavior towards the recipient may continue or escalate if they don't quit.
– motosubatsu
26 mins ago
This answer could be improved by fleshing out what is meant by "call their bluff". For example, do you act like they actually do like you, and they're being great kidders? Or something else? Why have you had stitches? Are you implying someone you worked with injured you after telling you they don't like you?
– Aaron Hall
24 mins ago
add a comment |Â
7
Someone saying "We don't like you." is a threat?
– Minix
23 hours ago
2
@AaronHall 'whats your problem clown?' or similar with varying degrees of politeness depending on the circumstances. But could also be a finger gesture, or in the case of fellow bouncers at some point you have to prove you can physically take care of yourself, so you might as well just show them and cut the chitchat altogether..
– Kilisi
21 hours ago
1
WHAT DO You mean by stitches like you got beat up?
– bakalolo
13 hours ago
1
@Minix "We don't like you. You should quit." (the full quote) could be seen to have an implied threat (depending on context, tone of voice etc. can't tell from the plain text) as it could infer that hostile behavior towards the recipient may continue or escalate if they don't quit.
– motosubatsu
26 mins ago
This answer could be improved by fleshing out what is meant by "call their bluff". For example, do you act like they actually do like you, and they're being great kidders? Or something else? Why have you had stitches? Are you implying someone you worked with injured you after telling you they don't like you?
– Aaron Hall
24 mins ago
7
7
Someone saying "We don't like you." is a threat?
– Minix
23 hours ago
Someone saying "We don't like you." is a threat?
– Minix
23 hours ago
2
2
@AaronHall 'whats your problem clown?' or similar with varying degrees of politeness depending on the circumstances. But could also be a finger gesture, or in the case of fellow bouncers at some point you have to prove you can physically take care of yourself, so you might as well just show them and cut the chitchat altogether..
– Kilisi
21 hours ago
@AaronHall 'whats your problem clown?' or similar with varying degrees of politeness depending on the circumstances. But could also be a finger gesture, or in the case of fellow bouncers at some point you have to prove you can physically take care of yourself, so you might as well just show them and cut the chitchat altogether..
– Kilisi
21 hours ago
1
1
WHAT DO You mean by stitches like you got beat up?
– bakalolo
13 hours ago
WHAT DO You mean by stitches like you got beat up?
– bakalolo
13 hours ago
1
1
@Minix "We don't like you. You should quit." (the full quote) could be seen to have an implied threat (depending on context, tone of voice etc. can't tell from the plain text) as it could infer that hostile behavior towards the recipient may continue or escalate if they don't quit.
– motosubatsu
26 mins ago
@Minix "We don't like you. You should quit." (the full quote) could be seen to have an implied threat (depending on context, tone of voice etc. can't tell from the plain text) as it could infer that hostile behavior towards the recipient may continue or escalate if they don't quit.
– motosubatsu
26 mins ago
This answer could be improved by fleshing out what is meant by "call their bluff". For example, do you act like they actually do like you, and they're being great kidders? Or something else? Why have you had stitches? Are you implying someone you worked with injured you after telling you they don't like you?
– Aaron Hall
24 mins ago
This answer could be improved by fleshing out what is meant by "call their bluff". For example, do you act like they actually do like you, and they're being great kidders? Or something else? Why have you had stitches? Are you implying someone you worked with injured you after telling you they don't like you?
– Aaron Hall
24 mins ago
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This is completely unacceptable in many ways, including legally.
While only a court can definitively pronounce on what is harassment, this is virtually certain to fall within that category.
You should immediately take this up with the company. Start with your boss, but if he does nothing (or he is one of the people involved) go to HR. Tell them what has happened, tell them you believe it is both harassement and workplace bullying. Tell them you want to file a formal complaint. If you are in a union or professional association then also get their advice (preferably before going to HR). If race, gender, sexuality or religion are involved then tell HR that as well. The combination of those will virtually force them to take action. The company has a legal responsibility to prevent this kind of thing. If they are the kind of company that won't do that, despite legal responsibilities, you are definitely better off elsewhere.
You should expect that disciplinary action is taken against the people involved, and that HR tells you that they have done something and that it will not happen again. If there is any repetition, or any attempt to punish you for the report, then tell HR immediately.
If HR refuses to take effective action you have the option of getting a lawyer and seeing if there is a case for suing them. This is potentially expensive, but if you are in a union then the union will often bear the legal costs for you. You might find that the threat makes them clean up their act. But if it gets to that point you are wise to have the option of another job to go to. If you do not want to take legal action then quitting is the only option.
answered yesterday
DJClayworth
41.8k989148
1
Don't have statutes to hand, but I had enough training as a manager to know it's the case.
– DJClayworth
yesterday
2
But voting down other answers is much easier.
– DJClayworth
yesterday
4
If you have a union always talk to them before a lawyer, and in serious cases like this probably before HR.
– DJClayworth
yesterday
1
@DJClayworth: Unless it's the union members doing the harassing...
– jamesqf
23 hours ago
2
@jamesqf Especially if its the union members doing the harassing, as long as they aren't your specific rep (and even then, you can find another rep to talk to).
– GreySage
21 hours ago
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up vote
10
down vote
This is completely unacceptable in many ways, including legally.
While only a court can definitively pronounce on what is harassment, this is virtually certain to fall within that category.
You should immediately take this up with the company. Start with your boss, but if he does nothing (or he is one of the people involved) go to HR. Tell them what has happened, tell them you believe it is both harassement and workplace bullying. Tell them you want to file a formal complaint. If you are in a union or professional association then also get their advice (preferably before going to HR). If race, gender, sexuality or religion are involved then tell HR that as well. The combination of those will virtually force them to take action. The company has a legal responsibility to prevent this kind of thing. If they are the kind of company that won't do that, despite legal responsibilities, you are definitely better off elsewhere.
You should expect that disciplinary action is taken against the people involved, and that HR tells you that they have done something and that it will not happen again. If there is any repetition, or any attempt to punish you for the report, then tell HR immediately.
If HR refuses to take effective action you have the option of getting a lawyer and seeing if there is a case for suing them. This is potentially expensive, but if you are in a union then the union will often bear the legal costs for you. You might find that the threat makes them clean up their act. But if it gets to that point you are wise to have the option of another job to go to. If you do not want to take legal action then quitting is the only option.
answered yesterday
DJClayworth
41.8k989148
1
Don't have statutes to hand, but I had enough training as a manager to know it's the case.
– DJClayworth
yesterday
2
But voting down other answers is much easier.
– DJClayworth
yesterday
4
If you have a union always talk to them before a lawyer, and in serious cases like this probably before HR.
– DJClayworth
yesterday
1
@DJClayworth: Unless it's the union members doing the harassing...
– jamesqf
23 hours ago
2
@jamesqf Especially if its the union members doing the harassing, as long as they aren't your specific rep (and even then, you can find another rep to talk to).
– GreySage
21 hours ago
 |Â
show 5 more comments
up vote
10
down vote
up vote
10
down vote
This is completely unacceptable in many ways, including legally.
While only a court can definitively pronounce on what is harassment, this is virtually certain to fall within that category.
You should immediately take this up with the company. Start with your boss, but if he does nothing (or he is one of the people involved) go to HR. Tell them what has happened, tell them you believe it is both harassement and workplace bullying. Tell them you want to file a formal complaint. If you are in a union or professional association then also get their advice (preferably before going to HR). If race, gender, sexuality or religion are involved then tell HR that as well. The combination of those will virtually force them to take action. The company has a legal responsibility to prevent this kind of thing. If they are the kind of company that won't do that, despite legal responsibilities, you are definitely better off elsewhere.
You should expect that disciplinary action is taken against the people involved, and that HR tells you that they have done something and that it will not happen again. If there is any repetition, or any attempt to punish you for the report, then tell HR immediately.
If HR refuses to take effective action you have the option of getting a lawyer and seeing if there is a case for suing them. This is potentially expensive, but if you are in a union then the union will often bear the legal costs for you. You might find that the threat makes them clean up their act. But if it gets to that point you are wise to have the option of another job to go to. If you do not want to take legal action then quitting is the only option.
answered yesterday
DJClayworth
41.8k989148
This is completely unacceptable in many ways, including legally.
While only a court can definitively pronounce on what is harassment, this is virtually certain to fall within that category.
You should immediately take this up with the company. Start with your boss, but if he does nothing (or he is one of the people involved) go to HR. Tell them what has happened, tell them you believe it is both harassement and workplace bullying. Tell them you want to file a formal complaint. If you are in a union or professional association then also get their advice (preferably before going to HR). If race, gender, sexuality or religion are involved then tell HR that as well. The combination of those will virtually force them to take action. The company has a legal responsibility to prevent this kind of thing. If they are the kind of company that won't do that, despite legal responsibilities, you are definitely better off elsewhere.
You should expect that disciplinary action is taken against the people involved, and that HR tells you that they have done something and that it will not happen again. If there is any repetition, or any attempt to punish you for the report, then tell HR immediately.
If HR refuses to take effective action you have the option of getting a lawyer and seeing if there is a case for suing them. This is potentially expensive, but if you are in a union then the union will often bear the legal costs for you. You might find that the threat makes them clean up their act. But if it gets to that point you are wise to have the option of another job to go to. If you do not want to take legal action then quitting is the only option.
answered yesterday
DJClayworth
41.8k989148
edited yesterday
answered yesterday
DJClayworth
41.8k989148
answered yesterday
DJClayworth
41.8k989148
answered yesterday
DJClayworth
41.8k989148
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Don't have statutes to hand, but I had enough training as a manager to know it's the case.
– DJClayworth
yesterday
2
But voting down other answers is much easier.
– DJClayworth
yesterday
4
If you have a union always talk to them before a lawyer, and in serious cases like this probably before HR.
– DJClayworth
yesterday
1
@DJClayworth: Unless it's the union members doing the harassing...
– jamesqf
23 hours ago
2
@jamesqf Especially if its the union members doing the harassing, as long as they aren't your specific rep (and even then, you can find another rep to talk to).
– GreySage
21 hours ago
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1
Don't have statutes to hand, but I had enough training as a manager to know it's the case.
– DJClayworth
yesterday
2
But voting down other answers is much easier.
– DJClayworth
yesterday
4
If you have a union always talk to them before a lawyer, and in serious cases like this probably before HR.
– DJClayworth
yesterday
1
@DJClayworth: Unless it's the union members doing the harassing...
– jamesqf
23 hours ago
2
@jamesqf Especially if its the union members doing the harassing, as long as they aren't your specific rep (and even then, you can find another rep to talk to).
– GreySage
21 hours ago
1
1
Don't have statutes to hand, but I had enough training as a manager to know it's the case.
– DJClayworth
yesterday
Don't have statutes to hand, but I had enough training as a manager to know it's the case.
– DJClayworth
yesterday
2
2
But voting down other answers is much easier.
– DJClayworth
yesterday
But voting down other answers is much easier.
– DJClayworth
yesterday
4
4
If you have a union always talk to them before a lawyer, and in serious cases like this probably before HR.
– DJClayworth
yesterday
If you have a union always talk to them before a lawyer, and in serious cases like this probably before HR.
– DJClayworth
yesterday
1
1
@DJClayworth: Unless it's the union members doing the harassing...
– jamesqf
23 hours ago
@DJClayworth: Unless it's the union members doing the harassing...
– jamesqf
23 hours ago
2
2
@jamesqf Especially if its the union members doing the harassing, as long as they aren't your specific rep (and even then, you can find another rep to talk to).
– GreySage
21 hours ago
@jamesqf Especially if its the union members doing the harassing, as long as they aren't your specific rep (and even then, you can find another rep to talk to).
– GreySage
21 hours ago
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This is 100% Harassment and any judge will side with you on this.
Contact a lawyer to see if something can be done about it as they're breaking the Equality act as you've mentioned and if the company does nothing about this to protect you then you could be suitable for a claim especially if you mention that you no longer feel comfortable to work in such an environment and workplace (which is not lies) and that your dignity has been knocked.
If HR side with the "bullies" you could be in for a good claim if you fight a good case
answered yesterday
Twyxz
4,48752049
3
Hi Twyxz, HR side with the bullies so that's out, was thinking of having my union rep there to see what would happen. The place is literally lawless. Its full of little people with big ego's. I seriously think they don't know that there are employment laws made by the government for the workplace. I'm not going to just quit but will accept a severance package if it comes to it.
– Kenny Barber
yesterday
8
@KennyBarber If you have been to HR already then please edit information about what happened into the question.
– DJClayworth
yesterday
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up vote
4
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This is 100% Harassment and any judge will side with you on this.
Contact a lawyer to see if something can be done about it as they're breaking the Equality act as you've mentioned and if the company does nothing about this to protect you then you could be suitable for a claim especially if you mention that you no longer feel comfortable to work in such an environment and workplace (which is not lies) and that your dignity has been knocked.
If HR side with the "bullies" you could be in for a good claim if you fight a good case
answered yesterday
Twyxz
4,48752049
3
Hi Twyxz, HR side with the bullies so that's out, was thinking of having my union rep there to see what would happen. The place is literally lawless. Its full of little people with big ego's. I seriously think they don't know that there are employment laws made by the government for the workplace. I'm not going to just quit but will accept a severance package if it comes to it.
– Kenny Barber
yesterday
8
@KennyBarber If you have been to HR already then please edit information about what happened into the question.
– DJClayworth
yesterday
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up vote
4
down vote
up vote
4
down vote
This is 100% Harassment and any judge will side with you on this.
Contact a lawyer to see if something can be done about it as they're breaking the Equality act as you've mentioned and if the company does nothing about this to protect you then you could be suitable for a claim especially if you mention that you no longer feel comfortable to work in such an environment and workplace (which is not lies) and that your dignity has been knocked.
If HR side with the "bullies" you could be in for a good claim if you fight a good case
answered yesterday
Twyxz
4,48752049
This is 100% Harassment and any judge will side with you on this.
Contact a lawyer to see if something can be done about it as they're breaking the Equality act as you've mentioned and if the company does nothing about this to protect you then you could be suitable for a claim especially if you mention that you no longer feel comfortable to work in such an environment and workplace (which is not lies) and that your dignity has been knocked.
If HR side with the "bullies" you could be in for a good claim if you fight a good case
answered yesterday
Twyxz
4,48752049
edited yesterday
answered yesterday
Twyxz
4,48752049
answered yesterday
Twyxz
4,48752049
answered yesterday
Twyxz
4,48752049
4,48752049
3
Hi Twyxz, HR side with the bullies so that's out, was thinking of having my union rep there to see what would happen. The place is literally lawless. Its full of little people with big ego's. I seriously think they don't know that there are employment laws made by the government for the workplace. I'm not going to just quit but will accept a severance package if it comes to it.
– Kenny Barber
yesterday
8
@KennyBarber If you have been to HR already then please edit information about what happened into the question.
– DJClayworth
yesterday
add a comment |Â
3
Hi Twyxz, HR side with the bullies so that's out, was thinking of having my union rep there to see what would happen. The place is literally lawless. Its full of little people with big ego's. I seriously think they don't know that there are employment laws made by the government for the workplace. I'm not going to just quit but will accept a severance package if it comes to it.
– Kenny Barber
yesterday
8
@KennyBarber If you have been to HR already then please edit information about what happened into the question.
– DJClayworth
yesterday
3
3
Hi Twyxz, HR side with the bullies so that's out, was thinking of having my union rep there to see what would happen. The place is literally lawless. Its full of little people with big ego's. I seriously think they don't know that there are employment laws made by the government for the workplace. I'm not going to just quit but will accept a severance package if it comes to it.
– Kenny Barber
yesterday
Hi Twyxz, HR side with the bullies so that's out, was thinking of having my union rep there to see what would happen. The place is literally lawless. Its full of little people with big ego's. I seriously think they don't know that there are employment laws made by the government for the workplace. I'm not going to just quit but will accept a severance package if it comes to it.
– Kenny Barber
yesterday
8
8
@KennyBarber If you have been to HR already then please edit information about what happened into the question.
– DJClayworth
yesterday
@KennyBarber If you have been to HR already then please edit information about what happened into the question.
– DJClayworth
yesterday
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You can also respond in a supercorrect way:
Thank you, sir/madam, for pointing this out to me. You mentioned the word 'we', so you're not the only one with this opinion.
I'd like you to get a full list of names, followed by their autographs, where colleagues confirm this statement.
Can you deliver me this paper? Thanks in advance.
In case (s)he gives you this list, you might use it and file harassment charges against every person on that list.
But I think it won't go that far: that bully will realise that you dare standing up to his/her harassment, and even if (s)he tries to get this list from other colleagues, it's very doubtful that anybody will dare putting his/her name and/or autograph on it.
And you don't even need to wait for that person to come to you again. You can go to this person and say:
Recently you told me that you (in plural) don't want me here and that you want me to quit. Please provide me with a list of names, followed by their autographs...
Good luck
answered 7 hours ago
Dominique
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You can also respond in a supercorrect way:
Thank you, sir/madam, for pointing this out to me. You mentioned the word 'we', so you're not the only one with this opinion.
I'd like you to get a full list of names, followed by their autographs, where colleagues confirm this statement.
Can you deliver me this paper? Thanks in advance.
In case (s)he gives you this list, you might use it and file harassment charges against every person on that list.
But I think it won't go that far: that bully will realise that you dare standing up to his/her harassment, and even if (s)he tries to get this list from other colleagues, it's very doubtful that anybody will dare putting his/her name and/or autograph on it.
And you don't even need to wait for that person to come to you again. You can go to this person and say:
Recently you told me that you (in plural) don't want me here and that you want me to quit. Please provide me with a list of names, followed by their autographs...
Good luck
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You can also respond in a supercorrect way:
Thank you, sir/madam, for pointing this out to me. You mentioned the word 'we', so you're not the only one with this opinion.
I'd like you to get a full list of names, followed by their autographs, where colleagues confirm this statement.
Can you deliver me this paper? Thanks in advance.
In case (s)he gives you this list, you might use it and file harassment charges against every person on that list.
But I think it won't go that far: that bully will realise that you dare standing up to his/her harassment, and even if (s)he tries to get this list from other colleagues, it's very doubtful that anybody will dare putting his/her name and/or autograph on it.
And you don't even need to wait for that person to come to you again. You can go to this person and say:
Recently you told me that you (in plural) don't want me here and that you want me to quit. Please provide me with a list of names, followed by their autographs...
Good luck
answered 7 hours ago
Dominique
843210
You can also respond in a supercorrect way:
Thank you, sir/madam, for pointing this out to me. You mentioned the word 'we', so you're not the only one with this opinion.
I'd like you to get a full list of names, followed by their autographs, where colleagues confirm this statement.
Can you deliver me this paper? Thanks in advance.
In case (s)he gives you this list, you might use it and file harassment charges against every person on that list.
But I think it won't go that far: that bully will realise that you dare standing up to his/her harassment, and even if (s)he tries to get this list from other colleagues, it's very doubtful that anybody will dare putting his/her name and/or autograph on it.
And you don't even need to wait for that person to come to you again. You can go to this person and say:
Recently you told me that you (in plural) don't want me here and that you want me to quit. Please provide me with a list of names, followed by their autographs...
Good luck
answered 7 hours ago
Dominique
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answered 7 hours ago
Dominique
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answered 7 hours ago
Dominique
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answered 7 hours ago
Dominique
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I'd just stay put. Realistically, they can't actually push you out and if you log this with HR, whoever said this to you shouldn't be able to act on it without getting fired. My company would consider what they've done as harassment, and if you tell HR about it and they try to take revenge on you for it they've committed retaliation, which is a much bigger and far worse can of worms.
Bottom line, if you work for a company that is at least semi-serious whoever told you this just took the first step in getting themselves fired.
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They CAN push you out. Once they realize you are aware of your rights, they will start manufacturing a legal excuse to claim as the reason. And unless they are stupid or careless, they’ll get away with it.
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I'd just stay put. Realistically, they can't actually push you out and if you log this with HR, whoever said this to you shouldn't be able to act on it without getting fired. My company would consider what they've done as harassment, and if you tell HR about it and they try to take revenge on you for it they've committed retaliation, which is a much bigger and far worse can of worms.
Bottom line, if you work for a company that is at least semi-serious whoever told you this just took the first step in getting themselves fired.
answered yesterday
Steve
1,064312
They CAN push you out. Once they realize you are aware of your rights, they will start manufacturing a legal excuse to claim as the reason. And unless they are stupid or careless, they’ll get away with it.
– WGroleau
17 hours ago
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I'd just stay put. Realistically, they can't actually push you out and if you log this with HR, whoever said this to you shouldn't be able to act on it without getting fired. My company would consider what they've done as harassment, and if you tell HR about it and they try to take revenge on you for it they've committed retaliation, which is a much bigger and far worse can of worms.
Bottom line, if you work for a company that is at least semi-serious whoever told you this just took the first step in getting themselves fired.
answered yesterday
Steve
1,064312
I'd just stay put. Realistically, they can't actually push you out and if you log this with HR, whoever said this to you shouldn't be able to act on it without getting fired. My company would consider what they've done as harassment, and if you tell HR about it and they try to take revenge on you for it they've committed retaliation, which is a much bigger and far worse can of worms.
Bottom line, if you work for a company that is at least semi-serious whoever told you this just took the first step in getting themselves fired.
answered yesterday
Steve
1,064312
answered yesterday
Steve
1,064312
answered yesterday
Steve
1,064312
answered yesterday
Steve
1,064312
1,064312
They CAN push you out. Once they realize you are aware of your rights, they will start manufacturing a legal excuse to claim as the reason. And unless they are stupid or careless, they’ll get away with it.
– WGroleau
17 hours ago
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They CAN push you out. Once they realize you are aware of your rights, they will start manufacturing a legal excuse to claim as the reason. And unless they are stupid or careless, they’ll get away with it.
– WGroleau
17 hours ago
They CAN push you out. Once they realize you are aware of your rights, they will start manufacturing a legal excuse to claim as the reason. And unless they are stupid or careless, they’ll get away with it.
– WGroleau
17 hours ago
They CAN push you out. Once they realize you are aware of your rights, they will start manufacturing a legal excuse to claim as the reason. And unless they are stupid or careless, they’ll get away with it.
– WGroleau
17 hours ago
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Unless the harrassment is directly linked to your race, gender or religeon then the Equalities Act is unlikely to be of any help to you.
That said, you still have a case, because you're right; this kind of behaviour, pushing people out of a job, will definitely get companies in trouble.
If you end up leaving the job because of the reasons you stated, then you have a strong case to sue them for Constructive Dismissal. You will obviously need to have evidence to support your claim, but given suitable evidence, and assuming your side of the story is accurate, then it should be a clear cut case.
My advice:
- Start collecting evidence now, if you haven't already. Get everything you can in writing. Save any relevant emails (I suggest printing them).
- Talk to people who can help. Visit your local Citizens' Advice Bureau (CAB). Get legal advice (please note that nothing I've said here is legal advice!). If you have a union, talk to them too.
- If your company has a HR department, consider talking to them. Their responsibility is to the company, not to you, but they will want to prevent the company getting into legal trouble if you do get pushed out. Their remedies may include disciplining those doing the harrassment. Or if the situation can't be saved, they may be able to make a compromise agreement with you that gives you a pay-off to leave the company without raising a legal fight.
- Regardless of any of the above, brush up your CV and start looking for alternative employment. Honestly, if your colleagues dislike you enough for things to get to this point then the situation is probably not salvageable; no-one is going to be happy if you stay put, least of all you; you're going to spend your whole time wondering what people think of you.
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Unless the harrassment is directly linked to your race, gender or religeon then the Equalities Act is unlikely to be of any help to you.
That said, you still have a case, because you're right; this kind of behaviour, pushing people out of a job, will definitely get companies in trouble.
If you end up leaving the job because of the reasons you stated, then you have a strong case to sue them for Constructive Dismissal. You will obviously need to have evidence to support your claim, but given suitable evidence, and assuming your side of the story is accurate, then it should be a clear cut case.
My advice:
- Start collecting evidence now, if you haven't already. Get everything you can in writing. Save any relevant emails (I suggest printing them).
- Talk to people who can help. Visit your local Citizens' Advice Bureau (CAB). Get legal advice (please note that nothing I've said here is legal advice!). If you have a union, talk to them too.
- If your company has a HR department, consider talking to them. Their responsibility is to the company, not to you, but they will want to prevent the company getting into legal trouble if you do get pushed out. Their remedies may include disciplining those doing the harrassment. Or if the situation can't be saved, they may be able to make a compromise agreement with you that gives you a pay-off to leave the company without raising a legal fight.
- Regardless of any of the above, brush up your CV and start looking for alternative employment. Honestly, if your colleagues dislike you enough for things to get to this point then the situation is probably not salvageable; no-one is going to be happy if you stay put, least of all you; you're going to spend your whole time wondering what people think of you.
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Unless the harrassment is directly linked to your race, gender or religeon then the Equalities Act is unlikely to be of any help to you.
That said, you still have a case, because you're right; this kind of behaviour, pushing people out of a job, will definitely get companies in trouble.
If you end up leaving the job because of the reasons you stated, then you have a strong case to sue them for Constructive Dismissal. You will obviously need to have evidence to support your claim, but given suitable evidence, and assuming your side of the story is accurate, then it should be a clear cut case.
My advice:
- Start collecting evidence now, if you haven't already. Get everything you can in writing. Save any relevant emails (I suggest printing them).
- Talk to people who can help. Visit your local Citizens' Advice Bureau (CAB). Get legal advice (please note that nothing I've said here is legal advice!). If you have a union, talk to them too.
- If your company has a HR department, consider talking to them. Their responsibility is to the company, not to you, but they will want to prevent the company getting into legal trouble if you do get pushed out. Their remedies may include disciplining those doing the harrassment. Or if the situation can't be saved, they may be able to make a compromise agreement with you that gives you a pay-off to leave the company without raising a legal fight.
- Regardless of any of the above, brush up your CV and start looking for alternative employment. Honestly, if your colleagues dislike you enough for things to get to this point then the situation is probably not salvageable; no-one is going to be happy if you stay put, least of all you; you're going to spend your whole time wondering what people think of you.
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Unless the harrassment is directly linked to your race, gender or religeon then the Equalities Act is unlikely to be of any help to you.
That said, you still have a case, because you're right; this kind of behaviour, pushing people out of a job, will definitely get companies in trouble.
If you end up leaving the job because of the reasons you stated, then you have a strong case to sue them for Constructive Dismissal. You will obviously need to have evidence to support your claim, but given suitable evidence, and assuming your side of the story is accurate, then it should be a clear cut case.
My advice:
- Start collecting evidence now, if you haven't already. Get everything you can in writing. Save any relevant emails (I suggest printing them).
- Talk to people who can help. Visit your local Citizens' Advice Bureau (CAB). Get legal advice (please note that nothing I've said here is legal advice!). If you have a union, talk to them too.
- If your company has a HR department, consider talking to them. Their responsibility is to the company, not to you, but they will want to prevent the company getting into legal trouble if you do get pushed out. Their remedies may include disciplining those doing the harrassment. Or if the situation can't be saved, they may be able to make a compromise agreement with you that gives you a pay-off to leave the company without raising a legal fight.
- Regardless of any of the above, brush up your CV and start looking for alternative employment. Honestly, if your colleagues dislike you enough for things to get to this point then the situation is probably not salvageable; no-one is going to be happy if you stay put, least of all you; you're going to spend your whole time wondering what people think of you.
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Depending upon who said it and what their position is it may form part of a constructive dismissal claim. Seeing your other question it would seem that this statement is part of a larger picture of harassment in the work place and it sounds awful - I'd strongly suggest talking to an employment solicitor and/or ACAS about the situation. Good luck!
– motosubatsu
yesterday
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We really need to know more about the setting, if it was a formal review by your manager the situation is very different from a random colleague rocking up at your desk.
– Borgh
yesterday
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Is this actually occurring or is it a hypothetical question?
– Burgi
yesterday
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The Equality Act provides protection against harassment based on protected characteristics - i.e. race, gender, religion, etc. - do you have reason to believe the harassment against you is based on such a characteristic? This effects what kind of answer should be given.
– Jack Aidley
yesterday
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Do you have any idea why this person/these people feel this way about you? The cause of their actions affects the answer.
– jpmc26
23 hours ago