Proof that integers (except $1$ and $-1$) don't have an integer multiplicative inverse
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This is a very elementary question, so please forgive me, but precisely because of this reason I haven't found an answer elsewhere:
Is the statement "$frac1ainmathbbZquad textif and only if quad (a=1)lor(a=-1);$" an axiom? Or can it be proven from other, antecedent axioms?
(If we had to prove that every integer $a$ different from $pm 1$ doesn't have a multiplicative inverse, we would have to "test" that "$forall binmathbbZ: abne1$")
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This is a very elementary question, so please forgive me, but precisely because of this reason I haven't found an answer elsewhere:
Is the statement "$frac1ainmathbbZquad textif and only if quad (a=1)lor(a=-1);$" an axiom? Or can it be proven from other, antecedent axioms?
(If we had to prove that every integer $a$ different from $pm 1$ doesn't have a multiplicative inverse, we would have to "test" that "$forall binmathbbZ: abne1$")
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This is a very elementary question, so please forgive me, but precisely because of this reason I haven't found an answer elsewhere:
Is the statement "$frac1ainmathbbZquad textif and only if quad (a=1)lor(a=-1);$" an axiom? Or can it be proven from other, antecedent axioms?
(If we had to prove that every integer $a$ different from $pm 1$ doesn't have a multiplicative inverse, we would have to "test" that "$forall binmathbbZ: abne1$")
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This is a very elementary question, so please forgive me, but precisely because of this reason I haven't found an answer elsewhere:
Is the statement "$frac1ainmathbbZquad textif and only if quad (a=1)lor(a=-1);$" an axiom? Or can it be proven from other, antecedent axioms?
(If we had to prove that every integer $a$ different from $pm 1$ doesn't have a multiplicative inverse, we would have to "test" that "$forall binmathbbZ: abne1$")
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This is readily proved once you properly define $Bbb Z$ and its operations. We may want to start from $Bbb N$ with its successor map $S$ and the Peano axioms, then define addition $Bbb Ntimes Bbb NtoBbb N$ recursively as $x+0:=x$, $x+Sy:=S(x+y)$, and then define multiplication recursively as $xcdot 0=0$, $xcdot Sy:=xcdot y+y$.
Now we see that $(a,b)sim (c,d):iff a+d=b+c$ is an equivalence relation on $Bbb N^2$, define $Bbb Z:=Bbb N^2/sim$ as the set of equivalence classes, define $overline(a,b)+overline(c,d):=overline(a+c,b+d)$ and define $overline(a,b)cdot overline(c,d):=overline(acdot c+bcdot d, acdot d+bcdot c)$ (which involves showing that this is well-defined). The claim now boils down to $overline(a,b)cdotoverline(c,d)=overline(1,0)implies a=Sblor b=Sa$. It does take a bit of work, but by going back the way we came can ultimately be reduced to a statement about $Bbb N$ that is provable by induction.
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Well, let's assume $ab=1$ when $a,binmathbbZ$. Of course it means that both $a$ and $b$ are non zero. Because they are integers we can conclude that their absolute values are at least $1$. And then $1=|ab|=|a||b|geq |a|$, and in the same way $1geq |b|$. So both $a$ and $b$ must belong to the set $-1,1$.
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It follows from the well-ordering principle for the natural numbers.
Suppose $ab=1$ for $a,b in BbbN$ with $b>1$. Then $c=a(b-1)$ is a natural number with $0<c<1$. So $c,c^2,c^3,dots$ is a set of natural numbers which has no least element, contradicting the well-ordering principle.
Now, if $ab=1$ for $a,b in BbbZ$, then either $a,b$ or $-a,-b$ will fit into the proof in the above paragraph...
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First of all, of course integers, have multiplicative inverses and of course that statement is obviously false as $a = frac 12, frac 13, frac 14,$ etc. bear out.
What you mean to say is $1$ and $-1$ are the only two integers whose multiplicative inverses are also integers.
I.e. If $a, frac 1a in mathbb Z$ then $a = 1$ or $a = -1$.
That is not an axiom.
If $a in mathbb Z$ then you have five possibilities. $a > 1$ or $a = 1$ or $a = 0$ or $a = -1$ or $a < 1$.
Case 1: $a > 1$. Then if $frac 1a < 0$ we would have $a*frac 1a < a*0$ and $1 < 0$ which is a contradiction. We can't have $frac 1a = 0$ because $0$ has no multiplicative inverses so $frac 1a > 0$. If $frac 1a ge 1$ then $a*frac 1a ge a*1 = a$ or $1 ge a$ which is a contradiction so $0< frac 1a < 1$ and not an integer.
Case 2: $a = 1$. then $frac 1a = 1$.
Case 3: $a = 0$ then $frac 1a$ is undefined.
Case 4: $a = -1$ then $frac 1a = -1$.
Case 5: $a < -1$. that is so similar to case 1: I'll leave it to you.
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I don't agree with your first two paragraphs; at least not on a minimally generous reading of the question. Whether a number has a multiplicative inverse depends on which structure you're considering. In the ring of integers, non-units don't have multiplicative inverses. To say that "their inverses aren't integers" doesn't make sense within the structure; it only makes sense within the rationals. Though the question doesn't explicitly say "within the integers", it only talks about integers, and it stands to reason that the intended context is the ring of integers.
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As we are interested in 1/a which is just a symbol being adopted to denote the inverse of an element in Z. Further identity element under multiplication in Z is 1. So if any member say ''a' of Z is invertible then there must be a member in Z denoted as 1/a or a^(-1) such that
a. a^(-1) =1.
Now it's a simple algebra that in Z 1/a is an integer iff a= 1 or -1.
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It depends upon the way that $mathbb Z$ and $times$ are defined, of course, but I doubt that anyone ever created axioms for the integers such that what you stated is an axiom.
Suppos, for instance, that you define:
$mathbb Z$ is the set of equivalence classes of $mathbbN^2$ with respect to the equivalence relation$$(a,b)sim(c,d)iff a+d=b+c;$$
$bigl[(a,b)bigr]timesbigl[(c,d)bigr]=bigl[(ac+bd,ad+bc)bigr]$.
Then your statement becomes a proposition, which can in fact be proved.
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This is readily proved once you properly define $Bbb Z$ and its operations. We may want to start from $Bbb N$ with its successor map $S$ and the Peano axioms, then define addition $Bbb Ntimes Bbb NtoBbb N$ recursively as $x+0:=x$, $x+Sy:=S(x+y)$, and then define multiplication recursively as $xcdot 0=0$, $xcdot Sy:=xcdot y+y$.
Now we see that $(a,b)sim (c,d):iff a+d=b+c$ is an equivalence relation on $Bbb N^2$, define $Bbb Z:=Bbb N^2/sim$ as the set of equivalence classes, define $overline(a,b)+overline(c,d):=overline(a+c,b+d)$ and define $overline(a,b)cdot overline(c,d):=overline(acdot c+bcdot d, acdot d+bcdot c)$ (which involves showing that this is well-defined). The claim now boils down to $overline(a,b)cdotoverline(c,d)=overline(1,0)implies a=Sblor b=Sa$. It does take a bit of work, but by going back the way we came can ultimately be reduced to a statement about $Bbb N$ that is provable by induction.
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This is readily proved once you properly define $Bbb Z$ and its operations. We may want to start from $Bbb N$ with its successor map $S$ and the Peano axioms, then define addition $Bbb Ntimes Bbb NtoBbb N$ recursively as $x+0:=x$, $x+Sy:=S(x+y)$, and then define multiplication recursively as $xcdot 0=0$, $xcdot Sy:=xcdot y+y$.
Now we see that $(a,b)sim (c,d):iff a+d=b+c$ is an equivalence relation on $Bbb N^2$, define $Bbb Z:=Bbb N^2/sim$ as the set of equivalence classes, define $overline(a,b)+overline(c,d):=overline(a+c,b+d)$ and define $overline(a,b)cdot overline(c,d):=overline(acdot c+bcdot d, acdot d+bcdot c)$ (which involves showing that this is well-defined). The claim now boils down to $overline(a,b)cdotoverline(c,d)=overline(1,0)implies a=Sblor b=Sa$. It does take a bit of work, but by going back the way we came can ultimately be reduced to a statement about $Bbb N$ that is provable by induction.
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This is readily proved once you properly define $Bbb Z$ and its operations. We may want to start from $Bbb N$ with its successor map $S$ and the Peano axioms, then define addition $Bbb Ntimes Bbb NtoBbb N$ recursively as $x+0:=x$, $x+Sy:=S(x+y)$, and then define multiplication recursively as $xcdot 0=0$, $xcdot Sy:=xcdot y+y$.
Now we see that $(a,b)sim (c,d):iff a+d=b+c$ is an equivalence relation on $Bbb N^2$, define $Bbb Z:=Bbb N^2/sim$ as the set of equivalence classes, define $overline(a,b)+overline(c,d):=overline(a+c,b+d)$ and define $overline(a,b)cdot overline(c,d):=overline(acdot c+bcdot d, acdot d+bcdot c)$ (which involves showing that this is well-defined). The claim now boils down to $overline(a,b)cdotoverline(c,d)=overline(1,0)implies a=Sblor b=Sa$. It does take a bit of work, but by going back the way we came can ultimately be reduced to a statement about $Bbb N$ that is provable by induction.
This is readily proved once you properly define $Bbb Z$ and its operations. We may want to start from $Bbb N$ with its successor map $S$ and the Peano axioms, then define addition $Bbb Ntimes Bbb NtoBbb N$ recursively as $x+0:=x$, $x+Sy:=S(x+y)$, and then define multiplication recursively as $xcdot 0=0$, $xcdot Sy:=xcdot y+y$.
Now we see that $(a,b)sim (c,d):iff a+d=b+c$ is an equivalence relation on $Bbb N^2$, define $Bbb Z:=Bbb N^2/sim$ as the set of equivalence classes, define $overline(a,b)+overline(c,d):=overline(a+c,b+d)$ and define $overline(a,b)cdot overline(c,d):=overline(acdot c+bcdot d, acdot d+bcdot c)$ (which involves showing that this is well-defined). The claim now boils down to $overline(a,b)cdotoverline(c,d)=overline(1,0)implies a=Sblor b=Sa$. It does take a bit of work, but by going back the way we came can ultimately be reduced to a statement about $Bbb N$ that is provable by induction.
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Well, let's assume $ab=1$ when $a,binmathbbZ$. Of course it means that both $a$ and $b$ are non zero. Because they are integers we can conclude that their absolute values are at least $1$. And then $1=|ab|=|a||b|geq |a|$, and in the same way $1geq |b|$. So both $a$ and $b$ must belong to the set $-1,1$.
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Well, let's assume $ab=1$ when $a,binmathbbZ$. Of course it means that both $a$ and $b$ are non zero. Because they are integers we can conclude that their absolute values are at least $1$. And then $1=|ab|=|a||b|geq |a|$, and in the same way $1geq |b|$. So both $a$ and $b$ must belong to the set $-1,1$.
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Well, let's assume $ab=1$ when $a,binmathbbZ$. Of course it means that both $a$ and $b$ are non zero. Because they are integers we can conclude that their absolute values are at least $1$. And then $1=|ab|=|a||b|geq |a|$, and in the same way $1geq |b|$. So both $a$ and $b$ must belong to the set $-1,1$.
Well, let's assume $ab=1$ when $a,binmathbbZ$. Of course it means that both $a$ and $b$ are non zero. Because they are integers we can conclude that their absolute values are at least $1$. And then $1=|ab|=|a||b|geq |a|$, and in the same way $1geq |b|$. So both $a$ and $b$ must belong to the set $-1,1$.
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It follows from the well-ordering principle for the natural numbers.
Suppose $ab=1$ for $a,b in BbbN$ with $b>1$. Then $c=a(b-1)$ is a natural number with $0<c<1$. So $c,c^2,c^3,dots$ is a set of natural numbers which has no least element, contradicting the well-ordering principle.
Now, if $ab=1$ for $a,b in BbbZ$, then either $a,b$ or $-a,-b$ will fit into the proof in the above paragraph...
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It follows from the well-ordering principle for the natural numbers.
Suppose $ab=1$ for $a,b in BbbN$ with $b>1$. Then $c=a(b-1)$ is a natural number with $0<c<1$. So $c,c^2,c^3,dots$ is a set of natural numbers which has no least element, contradicting the well-ordering principle.
Now, if $ab=1$ for $a,b in BbbZ$, then either $a,b$ or $-a,-b$ will fit into the proof in the above paragraph...
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It follows from the well-ordering principle for the natural numbers.
Suppose $ab=1$ for $a,b in BbbN$ with $b>1$. Then $c=a(b-1)$ is a natural number with $0<c<1$. So $c,c^2,c^3,dots$ is a set of natural numbers which has no least element, contradicting the well-ordering principle.
Now, if $ab=1$ for $a,b in BbbZ$, then either $a,b$ or $-a,-b$ will fit into the proof in the above paragraph...
It follows from the well-ordering principle for the natural numbers.
Suppose $ab=1$ for $a,b in BbbN$ with $b>1$. Then $c=a(b-1)$ is a natural number with $0<c<1$. So $c,c^2,c^3,dots$ is a set of natural numbers which has no least element, contradicting the well-ordering principle.
Now, if $ab=1$ for $a,b in BbbZ$, then either $a,b$ or $-a,-b$ will fit into the proof in the above paragraph...
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First of all, of course integers, have multiplicative inverses and of course that statement is obviously false as $a = frac 12, frac 13, frac 14,$ etc. bear out.
What you mean to say is $1$ and $-1$ are the only two integers whose multiplicative inverses are also integers.
I.e. If $a, frac 1a in mathbb Z$ then $a = 1$ or $a = -1$.
That is not an axiom.
If $a in mathbb Z$ then you have five possibilities. $a > 1$ or $a = 1$ or $a = 0$ or $a = -1$ or $a < 1$.
Case 1: $a > 1$. Then if $frac 1a < 0$ we would have $a*frac 1a < a*0$ and $1 < 0$ which is a contradiction. We can't have $frac 1a = 0$ because $0$ has no multiplicative inverses so $frac 1a > 0$. If $frac 1a ge 1$ then $a*frac 1a ge a*1 = a$ or $1 ge a$ which is a contradiction so $0< frac 1a < 1$ and not an integer.
Case 2: $a = 1$. then $frac 1a = 1$.
Case 3: $a = 0$ then $frac 1a$ is undefined.
Case 4: $a = -1$ then $frac 1a = -1$.
Case 5: $a < -1$. that is so similar to case 1: I'll leave it to you.
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I don't agree with your first two paragraphs; at least not on a minimally generous reading of the question. Whether a number has a multiplicative inverse depends on which structure you're considering. In the ring of integers, non-units don't have multiplicative inverses. To say that "their inverses aren't integers" doesn't make sense within the structure; it only makes sense within the rationals. Though the question doesn't explicitly say "within the integers", it only talks about integers, and it stands to reason that the intended context is the ring of integers.
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First of all, of course integers, have multiplicative inverses and of course that statement is obviously false as $a = frac 12, frac 13, frac 14,$ etc. bear out.
What you mean to say is $1$ and $-1$ are the only two integers whose multiplicative inverses are also integers.
I.e. If $a, frac 1a in mathbb Z$ then $a = 1$ or $a = -1$.
That is not an axiom.
If $a in mathbb Z$ then you have five possibilities. $a > 1$ or $a = 1$ or $a = 0$ or $a = -1$ or $a < 1$.
Case 1: $a > 1$. Then if $frac 1a < 0$ we would have $a*frac 1a < a*0$ and $1 < 0$ which is a contradiction. We can't have $frac 1a = 0$ because $0$ has no multiplicative inverses so $frac 1a > 0$. If $frac 1a ge 1$ then $a*frac 1a ge a*1 = a$ or $1 ge a$ which is a contradiction so $0< frac 1a < 1$ and not an integer.
Case 2: $a = 1$. then $frac 1a = 1$.
Case 3: $a = 0$ then $frac 1a$ is undefined.
Case 4: $a = -1$ then $frac 1a = -1$.
Case 5: $a < -1$. that is so similar to case 1: I'll leave it to you.
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I don't agree with your first two paragraphs; at least not on a minimally generous reading of the question. Whether a number has a multiplicative inverse depends on which structure you're considering. In the ring of integers, non-units don't have multiplicative inverses. To say that "their inverses aren't integers" doesn't make sense within the structure; it only makes sense within the rationals. Though the question doesn't explicitly say "within the integers", it only talks about integers, and it stands to reason that the intended context is the ring of integers.
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First of all, of course integers, have multiplicative inverses and of course that statement is obviously false as $a = frac 12, frac 13, frac 14,$ etc. bear out.
What you mean to say is $1$ and $-1$ are the only two integers whose multiplicative inverses are also integers.
I.e. If $a, frac 1a in mathbb Z$ then $a = 1$ or $a = -1$.
That is not an axiom.
If $a in mathbb Z$ then you have five possibilities. $a > 1$ or $a = 1$ or $a = 0$ or $a = -1$ or $a < 1$.
Case 1: $a > 1$. Then if $frac 1a < 0$ we would have $a*frac 1a < a*0$ and $1 < 0$ which is a contradiction. We can't have $frac 1a = 0$ because $0$ has no multiplicative inverses so $frac 1a > 0$. If $frac 1a ge 1$ then $a*frac 1a ge a*1 = a$ or $1 ge a$ which is a contradiction so $0< frac 1a < 1$ and not an integer.
Case 2: $a = 1$. then $frac 1a = 1$.
Case 3: $a = 0$ then $frac 1a$ is undefined.
Case 4: $a = -1$ then $frac 1a = -1$.
Case 5: $a < -1$. that is so similar to case 1: I'll leave it to you.
First of all, of course integers, have multiplicative inverses and of course that statement is obviously false as $a = frac 12, frac 13, frac 14,$ etc. bear out.
What you mean to say is $1$ and $-1$ are the only two integers whose multiplicative inverses are also integers.
I.e. If $a, frac 1a in mathbb Z$ then $a = 1$ or $a = -1$.
That is not an axiom.
If $a in mathbb Z$ then you have five possibilities. $a > 1$ or $a = 1$ or $a = 0$ or $a = -1$ or $a < 1$.
Case 1: $a > 1$. Then if $frac 1a < 0$ we would have $a*frac 1a < a*0$ and $1 < 0$ which is a contradiction. We can't have $frac 1a = 0$ because $0$ has no multiplicative inverses so $frac 1a > 0$. If $frac 1a ge 1$ then $a*frac 1a ge a*1 = a$ or $1 ge a$ which is a contradiction so $0< frac 1a < 1$ and not an integer.
Case 2: $a = 1$. then $frac 1a = 1$.
Case 3: $a = 0$ then $frac 1a$ is undefined.
Case 4: $a = -1$ then $frac 1a = -1$.
Case 5: $a < -1$. that is so similar to case 1: I'll leave it to you.
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I don't agree with your first two paragraphs; at least not on a minimally generous reading of the question. Whether a number has a multiplicative inverse depends on which structure you're considering. In the ring of integers, non-units don't have multiplicative inverses. To say that "their inverses aren't integers" doesn't make sense within the structure; it only makes sense within the rationals. Though the question doesn't explicitly say "within the integers", it only talks about integers, and it stands to reason that the intended context is the ring of integers.
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I don't agree with your first two paragraphs; at least not on a minimally generous reading of the question. Whether a number has a multiplicative inverse depends on which structure you're considering. In the ring of integers, non-units don't have multiplicative inverses. To say that "their inverses aren't integers" doesn't make sense within the structure; it only makes sense within the rationals. Though the question doesn't explicitly say "within the integers", it only talks about integers, and it stands to reason that the intended context is the ring of integers.
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I don't agree with your first two paragraphs; at least not on a minimally generous reading of the question. Whether a number has a multiplicative inverse depends on which structure you're considering. In the ring of integers, non-units don't have multiplicative inverses. To say that "their inverses aren't integers" doesn't make sense within the structure; it only makes sense within the rationals. Though the question doesn't explicitly say "within the integers", it only talks about integers, and it stands to reason that the intended context is the ring of integers.
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I don't agree with your first two paragraphs; at least not on a minimally generous reading of the question. Whether a number has a multiplicative inverse depends on which structure you're considering. In the ring of integers, non-units don't have multiplicative inverses. To say that "their inverses aren't integers" doesn't make sense within the structure; it only makes sense within the rationals. Though the question doesn't explicitly say "within the integers", it only talks about integers, and it stands to reason that the intended context is the ring of integers.
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As we are interested in 1/a which is just a symbol being adopted to denote the inverse of an element in Z. Further identity element under multiplication in Z is 1. So if any member say ''a' of Z is invertible then there must be a member in Z denoted as 1/a or a^(-1) such that
a. a^(-1) =1.
Now it's a simple algebra that in Z 1/a is an integer iff a= 1 or -1.
Hope it will help you.
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As we are interested in 1/a which is just a symbol being adopted to denote the inverse of an element in Z. Further identity element under multiplication in Z is 1. So if any member say ''a' of Z is invertible then there must be a member in Z denoted as 1/a or a^(-1) such that
a. a^(-1) =1.
Now it's a simple algebra that in Z 1/a is an integer iff a= 1 or -1.
Hope it will help you.
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As we are interested in 1/a which is just a symbol being adopted to denote the inverse of an element in Z. Further identity element under multiplication in Z is 1. So if any member say ''a' of Z is invertible then there must be a member in Z denoted as 1/a or a^(-1) such that
a. a^(-1) =1.
Now it's a simple algebra that in Z 1/a is an integer iff a= 1 or -1.
Hope it will help you.
As we are interested in 1/a which is just a symbol being adopted to denote the inverse of an element in Z. Further identity element under multiplication in Z is 1. So if any member say ''a' of Z is invertible then there must be a member in Z denoted as 1/a or a^(-1) such that
a. a^(-1) =1.
Now it's a simple algebra that in Z 1/a is an integer iff a= 1 or -1.
Hope it will help you.
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It depends upon the way that $mathbb Z$ and $times$ are defined, of course, but I doubt that anyone ever created axioms for the integers such that what you stated is an axiom.
Suppos, for instance, that you define:
$mathbb Z$ is the set of equivalence classes of $mathbbN^2$ with respect to the equivalence relation$$(a,b)sim(c,d)iff a+d=b+c;$$
$bigl[(a,b)bigr]timesbigl[(c,d)bigr]=bigl[(ac+bd,ad+bc)bigr]$.
Then your statement becomes a proposition, which can in fact be proved.
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It depends upon the way that $mathbb Z$ and $times$ are defined, of course, but I doubt that anyone ever created axioms for the integers such that what you stated is an axiom.
Suppos, for instance, that you define:
$mathbb Z$ is the set of equivalence classes of $mathbbN^2$ with respect to the equivalence relation$$(a,b)sim(c,d)iff a+d=b+c;$$
$bigl[(a,b)bigr]timesbigl[(c,d)bigr]=bigl[(ac+bd,ad+bc)bigr]$.
Then your statement becomes a proposition, which can in fact be proved.
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It depends upon the way that $mathbb Z$ and $times$ are defined, of course, but I doubt that anyone ever created axioms for the integers such that what you stated is an axiom.
Suppos, for instance, that you define:
$mathbb Z$ is the set of equivalence classes of $mathbbN^2$ with respect to the equivalence relation$$(a,b)sim(c,d)iff a+d=b+c;$$
$bigl[(a,b)bigr]timesbigl[(c,d)bigr]=bigl[(ac+bd,ad+bc)bigr]$.
Then your statement becomes a proposition, which can in fact be proved.
It depends upon the way that $mathbb Z$ and $times$ are defined, of course, but I doubt that anyone ever created axioms for the integers such that what you stated is an axiom.
Suppos, for instance, that you define:
$mathbb Z$ is the set of equivalence classes of $mathbbN^2$ with respect to the equivalence relation$$(a,b)sim(c,d)iff a+d=b+c;$$
$bigl[(a,b)bigr]timesbigl[(c,d)bigr]=bigl[(ac+bd,ad+bc)bigr]$.
Then your statement becomes a proposition, which can in fact be proved.
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