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On a particular day, 50% of the employees arrive at work by 8.30 am, and 10% had not arrived by 8.55 am.



Assuming a normal model, find the standard deviation of the arrival times, in minutes?



What I tried: From what I understand, 40% of the people showed up in the gap of 25 minutes. Therefore, taking the difference between 0.90 - 0.50 = 0.40.



My query is how will I form an equation that I can solve because I don't have a x-bar, mean and standard deviation (3 unknowns?)










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On a particular day, 50% of the employees arrive at work by 8.30 am, and 10% had not arrived by 8.55 am.



Assuming a normal model, find the standard deviation of the arrival times, in minutes?



What I tried: From what I understand, 40% of the people showed up in the gap of 25 minutes. Therefore, taking the difference between 0.90 - 0.50 = 0.40.



My query is how will I form an equation that I can solve because I don't have a x-bar, mean and standard deviation (3 unknowns?)










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  • Thanks for specifying what you have already tried. This sounds like a homework or some type of self-directed study; if so, please add the self-study tag to the question. Such questions are encouraged on this site, but please read the info that explains how we try to provide help.
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On a particular day, 50% of the employees arrive at work by 8.30 am, and 10% had not arrived by 8.55 am.



Assuming a normal model, find the standard deviation of the arrival times, in minutes?



What I tried: From what I understand, 40% of the people showed up in the gap of 25 minutes. Therefore, taking the difference between 0.90 - 0.50 = 0.40.



My query is how will I form an equation that I can solve because I don't have a x-bar, mean and standard deviation (3 unknowns?)










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On a particular day, 50% of the employees arrive at work by 8.30 am, and 10% had not arrived by 8.55 am.



Assuming a normal model, find the standard deviation of the arrival times, in minutes?



What I tried: From what I understand, 40% of the people showed up in the gap of 25 minutes. Therefore, taking the difference between 0.90 - 0.50 = 0.40.



My query is how will I form an equation that I can solve because I don't have a x-bar, mean and standard deviation (3 unknowns?)







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  • Thanks for specifying what you have already tried. This sounds like a homework or some type of self-directed study; if so, please add the self-study tag to the question. Such questions are encouraged on this site, but please read the info that explains how we try to provide help.
    – EdM
    3 hours ago










  • @EdM tag is added. Not a homework question - its a self-study one.
    – user585380
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  • Thanks for specifying what you have already tried. This sounds like a homework or some type of self-directed study; if so, please add the self-study tag to the question. Such questions are encouraged on this site, but please read the info that explains how we try to provide help.
    – EdM
    3 hours ago










  • @EdM tag is added. Not a homework question - its a self-study one.
    – user585380
    3 hours ago















Thanks for specifying what you have already tried. This sounds like a homework or some type of self-directed study; if so, please add the self-study tag to the question. Such questions are encouraged on this site, but please read the info that explains how we try to provide help.
– EdM
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Thanks for specifying what you have already tried. This sounds like a homework or some type of self-directed study; if so, please add the self-study tag to the question. Such questions are encouraged on this site, but please read the info that explains how we try to provide help.
– EdM
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@EdM tag is added. Not a homework question - its a self-study one.
– user585380
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@EdM tag is added. Not a homework question - its a self-study one.
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As median = mean for the normal distribution you know that: $$/mu=8.30$$. Furthermore you know that $$/Phi_8.30,/sigma ^2(8.55)=0.9$$ (denoting with $/Phi_/mu,/sigma ^2$ the distribution function of a $N(/mu, /sigma ^2)$



This is equivalent to



$$/Phi_0,1(/frac8.55-8.30/sigma)=0.9$$



Now you only have to apply the inverse oh the distribution function of the $N(0,1)$ and solve for $/sigma$






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  • So basically mu = 8.30?
    – user585380
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  • Yes because 50% arrive before 8.30 and therefore 50% After 8.30. This means that the Median is 8.30 and as Median = mean for normal distributions you know that mean = 8.30
    – 0rangetree
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  • My sigma value comes out to be 0.194. Their value is 19.50. Why is an *100 difference here? Do they expect to take 830 and not 8.30?
    – user585380
    29 mins ago


















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The normal probability distribution has several nice properties that can help resolve your confusion. Consider in particular its symmetry: half of the cases have values lower than the mean of the distribution (the median equals the mean). So you do have information about the mean of the distribution of arrival times. You also have information about the 90th percentile of arrival times, when 10% hadn't yet arrived. That's enough information to estimate the standard deviation based on normal probability tables.






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  • Yes, I do know about this property. But there is only a 'timing' given. How do I convert that into a mean? Will mean be 30?
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As median = mean for the normal distribution you know that: $$/mu=8.30$$. Furthermore you know that $$/Phi_8.30,/sigma ^2(8.55)=0.9$$ (denoting with $/Phi_/mu,/sigma ^2$ the distribution function of a $N(/mu, /sigma ^2)$



This is equivalent to



$$/Phi_0,1(/frac8.55-8.30/sigma)=0.9$$



Now you only have to apply the inverse oh the distribution function of the $N(0,1)$ and solve for $/sigma$






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  • So basically mu = 8.30?
    – user585380
    1 hour ago










  • Yes because 50% arrive before 8.30 and therefore 50% After 8.30. This means that the Median is 8.30 and as Median = mean for normal distributions you know that mean = 8.30
    – 0rangetree
    39 mins ago










  • My sigma value comes out to be 0.194. Their value is 19.50. Why is an *100 difference here? Do they expect to take 830 and not 8.30?
    – user585380
    29 mins ago















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As median = mean for the normal distribution you know that: $$/mu=8.30$$. Furthermore you know that $$/Phi_8.30,/sigma ^2(8.55)=0.9$$ (denoting with $/Phi_/mu,/sigma ^2$ the distribution function of a $N(/mu, /sigma ^2)$



This is equivalent to



$$/Phi_0,1(/frac8.55-8.30/sigma)=0.9$$



Now you only have to apply the inverse oh the distribution function of the $N(0,1)$ and solve for $/sigma$






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  • So basically mu = 8.30?
    – user585380
    1 hour ago










  • Yes because 50% arrive before 8.30 and therefore 50% After 8.30. This means that the Median is 8.30 and as Median = mean for normal distributions you know that mean = 8.30
    – 0rangetree
    39 mins ago










  • My sigma value comes out to be 0.194. Their value is 19.50. Why is an *100 difference here? Do they expect to take 830 and not 8.30?
    – user585380
    29 mins ago













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As median = mean for the normal distribution you know that: $$/mu=8.30$$. Furthermore you know that $$/Phi_8.30,/sigma ^2(8.55)=0.9$$ (denoting with $/Phi_/mu,/sigma ^2$ the distribution function of a $N(/mu, /sigma ^2)$



This is equivalent to



$$/Phi_0,1(/frac8.55-8.30/sigma)=0.9$$



Now you only have to apply the inverse oh the distribution function of the $N(0,1)$ and solve for $/sigma$






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As median = mean for the normal distribution you know that: $$/mu=8.30$$. Furthermore you know that $$/Phi_8.30,/sigma ^2(8.55)=0.9$$ (denoting with $/Phi_/mu,/sigma ^2$ the distribution function of a $N(/mu, /sigma ^2)$



This is equivalent to



$$/Phi_0,1(/frac8.55-8.30/sigma)=0.9$$



Now you only have to apply the inverse oh the distribution function of the $N(0,1)$ and solve for $/sigma$







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  • So basically mu = 8.30?
    – user585380
    1 hour ago










  • Yes because 50% arrive before 8.30 and therefore 50% After 8.30. This means that the Median is 8.30 and as Median = mean for normal distributions you know that mean = 8.30
    – 0rangetree
    39 mins ago










  • My sigma value comes out to be 0.194. Their value is 19.50. Why is an *100 difference here? Do they expect to take 830 and not 8.30?
    – user585380
    29 mins ago

















  • So basically mu = 8.30?
    – user585380
    1 hour ago










  • Yes because 50% arrive before 8.30 and therefore 50% After 8.30. This means that the Median is 8.30 and as Median = mean for normal distributions you know that mean = 8.30
    – 0rangetree
    39 mins ago










  • My sigma value comes out to be 0.194. Their value is 19.50. Why is an *100 difference here? Do they expect to take 830 and not 8.30?
    – user585380
    29 mins ago
















So basically mu = 8.30?
– user585380
1 hour ago




So basically mu = 8.30?
– user585380
1 hour ago












Yes because 50% arrive before 8.30 and therefore 50% After 8.30. This means that the Median is 8.30 and as Median = mean for normal distributions you know that mean = 8.30
– 0rangetree
39 mins ago




Yes because 50% arrive before 8.30 and therefore 50% After 8.30. This means that the Median is 8.30 and as Median = mean for normal distributions you know that mean = 8.30
– 0rangetree
39 mins ago












My sigma value comes out to be 0.194. Their value is 19.50. Why is an *100 difference here? Do they expect to take 830 and not 8.30?
– user585380
29 mins ago





My sigma value comes out to be 0.194. Their value is 19.50. Why is an *100 difference here? Do they expect to take 830 and not 8.30?
– user585380
29 mins ago













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The normal probability distribution has several nice properties that can help resolve your confusion. Consider in particular its symmetry: half of the cases have values lower than the mean of the distribution (the median equals the mean). So you do have information about the mean of the distribution of arrival times. You also have information about the 90th percentile of arrival times, when 10% hadn't yet arrived. That's enough information to estimate the standard deviation based on normal probability tables.






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  • Yes, I do know about this property. But there is only a 'timing' given. How do I convert that into a mean? Will mean be 30?
    – user585380
    2 hours ago















up vote
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The normal probability distribution has several nice properties that can help resolve your confusion. Consider in particular its symmetry: half of the cases have values lower than the mean of the distribution (the median equals the mean). So you do have information about the mean of the distribution of arrival times. You also have information about the 90th percentile of arrival times, when 10% hadn't yet arrived. That's enough information to estimate the standard deviation based on normal probability tables.






share|cite|improve this answer




















  • Yes, I do know about this property. But there is only a 'timing' given. How do I convert that into a mean? Will mean be 30?
    – user585380
    2 hours ago













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up vote
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The normal probability distribution has several nice properties that can help resolve your confusion. Consider in particular its symmetry: half of the cases have values lower than the mean of the distribution (the median equals the mean). So you do have information about the mean of the distribution of arrival times. You also have information about the 90th percentile of arrival times, when 10% hadn't yet arrived. That's enough information to estimate the standard deviation based on normal probability tables.






share|cite|improve this answer












The normal probability distribution has several nice properties that can help resolve your confusion. Consider in particular its symmetry: half of the cases have values lower than the mean of the distribution (the median equals the mean). So you do have information about the mean of the distribution of arrival times. You also have information about the 90th percentile of arrival times, when 10% hadn't yet arrived. That's enough information to estimate the standard deviation based on normal probability tables.







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  • Yes, I do know about this property. But there is only a 'timing' given. How do I convert that into a mean? Will mean be 30?
    – user585380
    2 hours ago

















  • Yes, I do know about this property. But there is only a 'timing' given. How do I convert that into a mean? Will mean be 30?
    – user585380
    2 hours ago
















Yes, I do know about this property. But there is only a 'timing' given. How do I convert that into a mean? Will mean be 30?
– user585380
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Yes, I do know about this property. But there is only a 'timing' given. How do I convert that into a mean? Will mean be 30?
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