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I thought that it was possible to travel in the EU with a national identity card rather than a passport. However, some friends in Denmark say that is no longer true and they need a full passport even to go to Sweden. Is this so? I have not heard it from other sources.
I had just started to travel in the EU with my Irish passport card and I have had no serious problem yet. I even went to Denmark with it but since I changed planes in Amsterdam, I did not need to show it in Copenhagen.
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I thought that it was possible to travel in the EU with a national identity card rather than a passport. However, some friends in Denmark say that is no longer true and they need a full passport even to go to Sweden. Is this so? I have not heard it from other sources.
I had just started to travel in the EU with my Irish passport card and I have had no serious problem yet. I even went to Denmark with it but since I changed planes in Amsterdam, I did not need to show it in Copenhagen.
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It depends on whether or not the ID card is a valid document for travel purposes. That is the case in Italy. It might not be the case any more in Denmark.
– JoErNanO♦
26 mins ago
People have a lot of misconceptions about the EI and the Schengen area. Your friends views are not out of the ordinary, albeit wrong.
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I thought that it was possible to travel in the EU with a national identity card rather than a passport. However, some friends in Denmark say that is no longer true and they need a full passport even to go to Sweden. Is this so? I have not heard it from other sources.
I had just started to travel in the EU with my Irish passport card and I have had no serious problem yet. I even went to Denmark with it but since I changed planes in Amsterdam, I did not need to show it in Copenhagen.
customs-and-immigration paperwork denmark eu-id-card
edited 3 mins ago
Coke
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asked 34 mins ago
badjohn
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I thought that it was possible to travel in the EU with a national identity card rather than a passport. However, some friends in Denmark say that is no longer true and they need a full passport even to go to Sweden. Is this so? I have not heard it from other sources.
I had just started to travel in the EU with my Irish passport card and I have had no serious problem yet. I even went to Denmark with it but since I changed planes in Amsterdam, I did not need to show it in Copenhagen.
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It depends on whether or not the ID card is a valid document for travel purposes. That is the case in Italy. It might not be the case any more in Denmark.
– JoErNanO♦
26 mins ago
People have a lot of misconceptions about the EI and the Schengen area. Your friends views are not out of the ordinary, albeit wrong.
– JonathanReez♦
22 mins ago
add a comment |Â
It depends on whether or not the ID card is a valid document for travel purposes. That is the case in Italy. It might not be the case any more in Denmark.
– JoErNanO♦
26 mins ago
People have a lot of misconceptions about the EI and the Schengen area. Your friends views are not out of the ordinary, albeit wrong.
– JonathanReez♦
22 mins ago
It depends on whether or not the ID card is a valid document for travel purposes. That is the case in Italy. It might not be the case any more in Denmark.
– JoErNanO♦
26 mins ago
It depends on whether or not the ID card is a valid document for travel purposes. That is the case in Italy. It might not be the case any more in Denmark.
– JoErNanO♦
26 mins ago
People have a lot of misconceptions about the EI and the Schengen area. Your friends views are not out of the ordinary, albeit wrong.
– JonathanReez♦
22 mins ago
People have a lot of misconceptions about the EI and the Schengen area. Your friends views are not out of the ordinary, albeit wrong.
– JonathanReez♦
22 mins ago
add a comment |Â
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Denmark has never issued ID cards of the kind that some other EU member states do. This is why a passport is the only option for Danes traveling within the EU.
If Denmark chose to start issuing such ID cards, they would be valid for travel to other EU member states too.
What is new(ish) is that citizens used to be able to travel between the Nordic countries with neither passport nor ID card. This ended several years ago when Sweden introduced (now irregular) ID checks at the border to Denmark.
It has always been the case that Danes were supposed to carry passports when traveling outside the Nordic countries, such as to Germany. After we joined Schengen, passports are not checked systematically when entering Germany, but many people seem not to know that they are still supposed to be able to show them if they're stopped by German police inside Germany.
answered 21 mins ago
Henning Makholm
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The Nordic freedom of movement hasn't changed either; hence Nordic citizens are free to use any identification at all (though a driving licence is the preferred document for those not holding a passport or national ID. Those not appearing Nordic may also want to carry their birth certificate to avoid delays)
– Coke
7 mins ago
Thanks. That explains the puzzle nicely. I knew that the Danes had ID (CPR?) cards, it had not occurred to me that they would not be suitable for EU travel. So, my optional Irish passport card is (in a sense) better than my friends' compulsory ID cards - that's a surprise.
– badjohn
6 mins ago
@badjohn CPR is just a national ID number, and there's a so-called CPR certificate, which isn't an ID card and not tied to citizenship, just to residence in Denmark
– Coke
6 mins ago
@badjohn: There's no such thing as a CPR card. Most people carry a national health insurance card, which shows the CPR number (and not much else), but it has no photo and its value as an ID is limited. It doesn't say anything about citizenship either. (I don't think the CPR certificates Coke speaks about are issued anymore; I had one issued at birth but to the best of my recollection I have never used it for anything, full stop).
– Henning Makholm
3 mins ago
In a similar way, it used to be officially possible to travel between the UK and the Republic of Ireland with no ID provided you were a citizen of one or the other. I am not sure if this is still possible and I never tried it.
– badjohn
3 mins ago
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Your passport card remains fully valid across the EU/EFTA (and most other European countries for that matter). Your Danish friends say otherwise because Denmark has never even had a national ID card, and so they cannot relate to this.
answered 4 mins ago
Coke
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Thanks. It is a surprise since Denmark has always seemed to be the more organized country with the UK and Ireland more laid back. This seemed to be a surprising turnaround.
– badjohn
1 min ago
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Denmark has never issued ID cards of the kind that some other EU member states do. This is why a passport is the only option for Danes traveling within the EU.
If Denmark chose to start issuing such ID cards, they would be valid for travel to other EU member states too.
What is new(ish) is that citizens used to be able to travel between the Nordic countries with neither passport nor ID card. This ended several years ago when Sweden introduced (now irregular) ID checks at the border to Denmark.
It has always been the case that Danes were supposed to carry passports when traveling outside the Nordic countries, such as to Germany. After we joined Schengen, passports are not checked systematically when entering Germany, but many people seem not to know that they are still supposed to be able to show them if they're stopped by German police inside Germany.
answered 21 mins ago
Henning Makholm
36.2k685141
The Nordic freedom of movement hasn't changed either; hence Nordic citizens are free to use any identification at all (though a driving licence is the preferred document for those not holding a passport or national ID. Those not appearing Nordic may also want to carry their birth certificate to avoid delays)
– Coke
7 mins ago
Thanks. That explains the puzzle nicely. I knew that the Danes had ID (CPR?) cards, it had not occurred to me that they would not be suitable for EU travel. So, my optional Irish passport card is (in a sense) better than my friends' compulsory ID cards - that's a surprise.
– badjohn
6 mins ago
@badjohn CPR is just a national ID number, and there's a so-called CPR certificate, which isn't an ID card and not tied to citizenship, just to residence in Denmark
– Coke
6 mins ago
@badjohn: There's no such thing as a CPR card. Most people carry a national health insurance card, which shows the CPR number (and not much else), but it has no photo and its value as an ID is limited. It doesn't say anything about citizenship either. (I don't think the CPR certificates Coke speaks about are issued anymore; I had one issued at birth but to the best of my recollection I have never used it for anything, full stop).
– Henning Makholm
3 mins ago
In a similar way, it used to be officially possible to travel between the UK and the Republic of Ireland with no ID provided you were a citizen of one or the other. I am not sure if this is still possible and I never tried it.
– badjohn
3 mins ago
add a comment |Â
up vote
5
down vote
Denmark has never issued ID cards of the kind that some other EU member states do. This is why a passport is the only option for Danes traveling within the EU.
If Denmark chose to start issuing such ID cards, they would be valid for travel to other EU member states too.
What is new(ish) is that citizens used to be able to travel between the Nordic countries with neither passport nor ID card. This ended several years ago when Sweden introduced (now irregular) ID checks at the border to Denmark.
It has always been the case that Danes were supposed to carry passports when traveling outside the Nordic countries, such as to Germany. After we joined Schengen, passports are not checked systematically when entering Germany, but many people seem not to know that they are still supposed to be able to show them if they're stopped by German police inside Germany.
answered 21 mins ago
Henning Makholm
36.2k685141
The Nordic freedom of movement hasn't changed either; hence Nordic citizens are free to use any identification at all (though a driving licence is the preferred document for those not holding a passport or national ID. Those not appearing Nordic may also want to carry their birth certificate to avoid delays)
– Coke
7 mins ago
Thanks. That explains the puzzle nicely. I knew that the Danes had ID (CPR?) cards, it had not occurred to me that they would not be suitable for EU travel. So, my optional Irish passport card is (in a sense) better than my friends' compulsory ID cards - that's a surprise.
– badjohn
6 mins ago
@badjohn CPR is just a national ID number, and there's a so-called CPR certificate, which isn't an ID card and not tied to citizenship, just to residence in Denmark
– Coke
6 mins ago
@badjohn: There's no such thing as a CPR card. Most people carry a national health insurance card, which shows the CPR number (and not much else), but it has no photo and its value as an ID is limited. It doesn't say anything about citizenship either. (I don't think the CPR certificates Coke speaks about are issued anymore; I had one issued at birth but to the best of my recollection I have never used it for anything, full stop).
– Henning Makholm
3 mins ago
In a similar way, it used to be officially possible to travel between the UK and the Republic of Ireland with no ID provided you were a citizen of one or the other. I am not sure if this is still possible and I never tried it.
– badjohn
3 mins ago
add a comment |Â
up vote
5
down vote
up vote
5
down vote
Denmark has never issued ID cards of the kind that some other EU member states do. This is why a passport is the only option for Danes traveling within the EU.
If Denmark chose to start issuing such ID cards, they would be valid for travel to other EU member states too.
What is new(ish) is that citizens used to be able to travel between the Nordic countries with neither passport nor ID card. This ended several years ago when Sweden introduced (now irregular) ID checks at the border to Denmark.
It has always been the case that Danes were supposed to carry passports when traveling outside the Nordic countries, such as to Germany. After we joined Schengen, passports are not checked systematically when entering Germany, but many people seem not to know that they are still supposed to be able to show them if they're stopped by German police inside Germany.
answered 21 mins ago
Henning Makholm
36.2k685141
Denmark has never issued ID cards of the kind that some other EU member states do. This is why a passport is the only option for Danes traveling within the EU.
If Denmark chose to start issuing such ID cards, they would be valid for travel to other EU member states too.
What is new(ish) is that citizens used to be able to travel between the Nordic countries with neither passport nor ID card. This ended several years ago when Sweden introduced (now irregular) ID checks at the border to Denmark.
It has always been the case that Danes were supposed to carry passports when traveling outside the Nordic countries, such as to Germany. After we joined Schengen, passports are not checked systematically when entering Germany, but many people seem not to know that they are still supposed to be able to show them if they're stopped by German police inside Germany.
answered 21 mins ago
Henning Makholm
36.2k685141
edited 11 mins ago
answered 21 mins ago
Henning Makholm
36.2k685141
answered 21 mins ago
Henning Makholm
36.2k685141
answered 21 mins ago
Henning Makholm
36.2k685141
36.2k685141
The Nordic freedom of movement hasn't changed either; hence Nordic citizens are free to use any identification at all (though a driving licence is the preferred document for those not holding a passport or national ID. Those not appearing Nordic may also want to carry their birth certificate to avoid delays)
– Coke
7 mins ago
Thanks. That explains the puzzle nicely. I knew that the Danes had ID (CPR?) cards, it had not occurred to me that they would not be suitable for EU travel. So, my optional Irish passport card is (in a sense) better than my friends' compulsory ID cards - that's a surprise.
– badjohn
6 mins ago
@badjohn CPR is just a national ID number, and there's a so-called CPR certificate, which isn't an ID card and not tied to citizenship, just to residence in Denmark
– Coke
6 mins ago
@badjohn: There's no such thing as a CPR card. Most people carry a national health insurance card, which shows the CPR number (and not much else), but it has no photo and its value as an ID is limited. It doesn't say anything about citizenship either. (I don't think the CPR certificates Coke speaks about are issued anymore; I had one issued at birth but to the best of my recollection I have never used it for anything, full stop).
– Henning Makholm
3 mins ago
In a similar way, it used to be officially possible to travel between the UK and the Republic of Ireland with no ID provided you were a citizen of one or the other. I am not sure if this is still possible and I never tried it.
– badjohn
3 mins ago
add a comment |Â
The Nordic freedom of movement hasn't changed either; hence Nordic citizens are free to use any identification at all (though a driving licence is the preferred document for those not holding a passport or national ID. Those not appearing Nordic may also want to carry their birth certificate to avoid delays)
– Coke
7 mins ago
Thanks. That explains the puzzle nicely. I knew that the Danes had ID (CPR?) cards, it had not occurred to me that they would not be suitable for EU travel. So, my optional Irish passport card is (in a sense) better than my friends' compulsory ID cards - that's a surprise.
– badjohn
6 mins ago
@badjohn CPR is just a national ID number, and there's a so-called CPR certificate, which isn't an ID card and not tied to citizenship, just to residence in Denmark
– Coke
6 mins ago
@badjohn: There's no such thing as a CPR card. Most people carry a national health insurance card, which shows the CPR number (and not much else), but it has no photo and its value as an ID is limited. It doesn't say anything about citizenship either. (I don't think the CPR certificates Coke speaks about are issued anymore; I had one issued at birth but to the best of my recollection I have never used it for anything, full stop).
– Henning Makholm
3 mins ago
In a similar way, it used to be officially possible to travel between the UK and the Republic of Ireland with no ID provided you were a citizen of one or the other. I am not sure if this is still possible and I never tried it.
– badjohn
3 mins ago
The Nordic freedom of movement hasn't changed either; hence Nordic citizens are free to use any identification at all (though a driving licence is the preferred document for those not holding a passport or national ID. Those not appearing Nordic may also want to carry their birth certificate to avoid delays)
– Coke
7 mins ago
The Nordic freedom of movement hasn't changed either; hence Nordic citizens are free to use any identification at all (though a driving licence is the preferred document for those not holding a passport or national ID. Those not appearing Nordic may also want to carry their birth certificate to avoid delays)
– Coke
7 mins ago
Thanks. That explains the puzzle nicely. I knew that the Danes had ID (CPR?) cards, it had not occurred to me that they would not be suitable for EU travel. So, my optional Irish passport card is (in a sense) better than my friends' compulsory ID cards - that's a surprise.
– badjohn
6 mins ago
Thanks. That explains the puzzle nicely. I knew that the Danes had ID (CPR?) cards, it had not occurred to me that they would not be suitable for EU travel. So, my optional Irish passport card is (in a sense) better than my friends' compulsory ID cards - that's a surprise.
– badjohn
6 mins ago
@badjohn CPR is just a national ID number, and there's a so-called CPR certificate, which isn't an ID card and not tied to citizenship, just to residence in Denmark
– Coke
6 mins ago
@badjohn CPR is just a national ID number, and there's a so-called CPR certificate, which isn't an ID card and not tied to citizenship, just to residence in Denmark
– Coke
6 mins ago
@badjohn: There's no such thing as a CPR card. Most people carry a national health insurance card, which shows the CPR number (and not much else), but it has no photo and its value as an ID is limited. It doesn't say anything about citizenship either. (I don't think the CPR certificates Coke speaks about are issued anymore; I had one issued at birth but to the best of my recollection I have never used it for anything, full stop).
– Henning Makholm
3 mins ago
@badjohn: There's no such thing as a CPR card. Most people carry a national health insurance card, which shows the CPR number (and not much else), but it has no photo and its value as an ID is limited. It doesn't say anything about citizenship either. (I don't think the CPR certificates Coke speaks about are issued anymore; I had one issued at birth but to the best of my recollection I have never used it for anything, full stop).
– Henning Makholm
3 mins ago
In a similar way, it used to be officially possible to travel between the UK and the Republic of Ireland with no ID provided you were a citizen of one or the other. I am not sure if this is still possible and I never tried it.
– badjohn
3 mins ago
In a similar way, it used to be officially possible to travel between the UK and the Republic of Ireland with no ID provided you were a citizen of one or the other. I am not sure if this is still possible and I never tried it.
– badjohn
3 mins ago
add a comment |Â
up vote
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Your passport card remains fully valid across the EU/EFTA (and most other European countries for that matter). Your Danish friends say otherwise because Denmark has never even had a national ID card, and so they cannot relate to this.
answered 4 mins ago
Coke
48.5k889216
Thanks. It is a surprise since Denmark has always seemed to be the more organized country with the UK and Ireland more laid back. This seemed to be a surprising turnaround.
– badjohn
1 min ago
add a comment |Â
up vote
1
down vote
Your passport card remains fully valid across the EU/EFTA (and most other European countries for that matter). Your Danish friends say otherwise because Denmark has never even had a national ID card, and so they cannot relate to this.
answered 4 mins ago
Coke
48.5k889216
Thanks. It is a surprise since Denmark has always seemed to be the more organized country with the UK and Ireland more laid back. This seemed to be a surprising turnaround.
– badjohn
1 min ago
add a comment |Â
up vote
1
down vote
up vote
1
down vote
Your passport card remains fully valid across the EU/EFTA (and most other European countries for that matter). Your Danish friends say otherwise because Denmark has never even had a national ID card, and so they cannot relate to this.
answered 4 mins ago
Coke
48.5k889216
Your passport card remains fully valid across the EU/EFTA (and most other European countries for that matter). Your Danish friends say otherwise because Denmark has never even had a national ID card, and so they cannot relate to this.
answered 4 mins ago
Coke
48.5k889216
answered 4 mins ago
Coke
48.5k889216
answered 4 mins ago
Coke
48.5k889216
answered 4 mins ago
Coke
48.5k889216
48.5k889216
Thanks. It is a surprise since Denmark has always seemed to be the more organized country with the UK and Ireland more laid back. This seemed to be a surprising turnaround.
– badjohn
1 min ago
add a comment |Â
Thanks. It is a surprise since Denmark has always seemed to be the more organized country with the UK and Ireland more laid back. This seemed to be a surprising turnaround.
– badjohn
1 min ago
Thanks. It is a surprise since Denmark has always seemed to be the more organized country with the UK and Ireland more laid back. This seemed to be a surprising turnaround.
– badjohn
1 min ago
Thanks. It is a surprise since Denmark has always seemed to be the more organized country with the UK and Ireland more laid back. This seemed to be a surprising turnaround.
– badjohn
1 min ago
add a comment |Â
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It depends on whether or not the ID card is a valid document for travel purposes. That is the case in Italy. It might not be the case any more in Denmark.
– JoErNanO♦
26 mins ago
People have a lot of misconceptions about the EI and the Schengen area. Your friends views are not out of the ordinary, albeit wrong.
– JonathanReez♦
22 mins ago