Limit with binomials

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$$lim_xtoinfty frac(2x+sqrtx^2-1)^n+(2x-sqrtx^2-1)^nx^n.
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I tried to do the binomial expansion and then operate only with the odds but I couldn't find the limit.Can somebody help me,please?










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  • Why do you think you need the binomial expansion? Complex values of $x$?..
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  • X goes to infinity...sorry
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  • Again, you don't need B.E. - the limit is $3^n+1$.
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$$lim_xtoinfty frac(2x+sqrtx^2-1)^n+(2x-sqrtx^2-1)^nx^n.
$$

I tried to do the binomial expansion and then operate only with the odds but I couldn't find the limit.Can somebody help me,please?










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  • Why do you think you need the binomial expansion? Complex values of $x$?..
    – metamorphy
    2 hours ago











  • X goes to infinity...sorry
    – Andrei Gabor
    25 mins ago










  • Again, you don't need B.E. - the limit is $3^n+1$.
    – metamorphy
    15 mins ago













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$$lim_xtoinfty frac(2x+sqrtx^2-1)^n+(2x-sqrtx^2-1)^nx^n.
$$

I tried to do the binomial expansion and then operate only with the odds but I couldn't find the limit.Can somebody help me,please?










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$$lim_xtoinfty frac(2x+sqrtx^2-1)^n+(2x-sqrtx^2-1)^nx^n.
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I tried to do the binomial expansion and then operate only with the odds but I couldn't find the limit.Can somebody help me,please?







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  • Why do you think you need the binomial expansion? Complex values of $x$?..
    – metamorphy
    2 hours ago











  • X goes to infinity...sorry
    – Andrei Gabor
    25 mins ago










  • Again, you don't need B.E. - the limit is $3^n+1$.
    – metamorphy
    15 mins ago

















  • Why do you think you need the binomial expansion? Complex values of $x$?..
    – metamorphy
    2 hours ago











  • X goes to infinity...sorry
    – Andrei Gabor
    25 mins ago










  • Again, you don't need B.E. - the limit is $3^n+1$.
    – metamorphy
    15 mins ago
















Why do you think you need the binomial expansion? Complex values of $x$?..
– metamorphy
2 hours ago





Why do you think you need the binomial expansion? Complex values of $x$?..
– metamorphy
2 hours ago













X goes to infinity...sorry
– Andrei Gabor
25 mins ago




X goes to infinity...sorry
– Andrei Gabor
25 mins ago












Again, you don't need B.E. - the limit is $3^n+1$.
– metamorphy
15 mins ago





Again, you don't need B.E. - the limit is $3^n+1$.
– metamorphy
15 mins ago











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You have
$$frac(2x+sqrtx^2-1)^n + (2x-sqrtx^2-1)^nx^n= left(2 + sqrt1-frac1x^2right)^n +left(2 - sqrt1-frac1x^2right)^n geq left(2 + sqrt1-frac1x^2right)^n$$



which tends to $+infty$ when $n rightarrow +infty$.






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    Note that
    $$frac(2xpmsqrtx^2-1)^nx^n=left(2pmsqrt1-frac1x^2right)^n $$
    So at least one of the summands is $ge 2^n$, and the other still positive.




    Even if we allow complex $x$, we have an expression of the form $a^n+b^n$ with $a+b=4$, hence either one of $|a|,|b|$ is larger than the other and then larger then $2$ (thus leading to divergence), or $|a|=|b|$ and then the real parts of $a^n$ and $b^n$ are always equal, but are unbounded.






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    $$lim_ntoinfty frac(2x+sqrtx^2-1)^n+(2x-sqrtx^2-1)^nx^n$$



    $$= lim_ntoinftybigg (2+sqrt1- 1/x^2bigg)^n+lim_ntoinftybigg(2-sqrt1- 1/x^2bigg )^n = infty$$






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      You have
      $$frac(2x+sqrtx^2-1)^n + (2x-sqrtx^2-1)^nx^n= left(2 + sqrt1-frac1x^2right)^n +left(2 - sqrt1-frac1x^2right)^n geq left(2 + sqrt1-frac1x^2right)^n$$



      which tends to $+infty$ when $n rightarrow +infty$.






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        You have
        $$frac(2x+sqrtx^2-1)^n + (2x-sqrtx^2-1)^nx^n= left(2 + sqrt1-frac1x^2right)^n +left(2 - sqrt1-frac1x^2right)^n geq left(2 + sqrt1-frac1x^2right)^n$$



        which tends to $+infty$ when $n rightarrow +infty$.






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          You have
          $$frac(2x+sqrtx^2-1)^n + (2x-sqrtx^2-1)^nx^n= left(2 + sqrt1-frac1x^2right)^n +left(2 - sqrt1-frac1x^2right)^n geq left(2 + sqrt1-frac1x^2right)^n$$



          which tends to $+infty$ when $n rightarrow +infty$.






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          You have
          $$frac(2x+sqrtx^2-1)^n + (2x-sqrtx^2-1)^nx^n= left(2 + sqrt1-frac1x^2right)^n +left(2 - sqrt1-frac1x^2right)^n geq left(2 + sqrt1-frac1x^2right)^n$$



          which tends to $+infty$ when $n rightarrow +infty$.







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              Note that
              $$frac(2xpmsqrtx^2-1)^nx^n=left(2pmsqrt1-frac1x^2right)^n $$
              So at least one of the summands is $ge 2^n$, and the other still positive.




              Even if we allow complex $x$, we have an expression of the form $a^n+b^n$ with $a+b=4$, hence either one of $|a|,|b|$ is larger than the other and then larger then $2$ (thus leading to divergence), or $|a|=|b|$ and then the real parts of $a^n$ and $b^n$ are always equal, but are unbounded.






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              • X goes to infinity...sory
                – Andrei Gabor
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              Note that
              $$frac(2xpmsqrtx^2-1)^nx^n=left(2pmsqrt1-frac1x^2right)^n $$
              So at least one of the summands is $ge 2^n$, and the other still positive.




              Even if we allow complex $x$, we have an expression of the form $a^n+b^n$ with $a+b=4$, hence either one of $|a|,|b|$ is larger than the other and then larger then $2$ (thus leading to divergence), or $|a|=|b|$ and then the real parts of $a^n$ and $b^n$ are always equal, but are unbounded.






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              • X goes to infinity...sory
                – Andrei Gabor
                33 mins ago












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              Note that
              $$frac(2xpmsqrtx^2-1)^nx^n=left(2pmsqrt1-frac1x^2right)^n $$
              So at least one of the summands is $ge 2^n$, and the other still positive.




              Even if we allow complex $x$, we have an expression of the form $a^n+b^n$ with $a+b=4$, hence either one of $|a|,|b|$ is larger than the other and then larger then $2$ (thus leading to divergence), or $|a|=|b|$ and then the real parts of $a^n$ and $b^n$ are always equal, but are unbounded.






              share|cite|improve this answer














              Note that
              $$frac(2xpmsqrtx^2-1)^nx^n=left(2pmsqrt1-frac1x^2right)^n $$
              So at least one of the summands is $ge 2^n$, and the other still positive.




              Even if we allow complex $x$, we have an expression of the form $a^n+b^n$ with $a+b=4$, hence either one of $|a|,|b|$ is larger than the other and then larger then $2$ (thus leading to divergence), or $|a|=|b|$ and then the real parts of $a^n$ and $b^n$ are always equal, but are unbounded.







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              • X goes to infinity...sory
                – Andrei Gabor
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              • X goes to infinity...sory
                – Andrei Gabor
                33 mins ago















              X goes to infinity...sory
              – Andrei Gabor
              33 mins ago




              X goes to infinity...sory
              – Andrei Gabor
              33 mins ago










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              $$lim_ntoinfty frac(2x+sqrtx^2-1)^n+(2x-sqrtx^2-1)^nx^n$$



              $$= lim_ntoinftybigg (2+sqrt1- 1/x^2bigg)^n+lim_ntoinftybigg(2-sqrt1- 1/x^2bigg )^n = infty$$






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                $$lim_ntoinfty frac(2x+sqrtx^2-1)^n+(2x-sqrtx^2-1)^nx^n$$



                $$= lim_ntoinftybigg (2+sqrt1- 1/x^2bigg)^n+lim_ntoinftybigg(2-sqrt1- 1/x^2bigg )^n = infty$$






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                  $$lim_ntoinfty frac(2x+sqrtx^2-1)^n+(2x-sqrtx^2-1)^nx^n$$



                  $$= lim_ntoinftybigg (2+sqrt1- 1/x^2bigg)^n+lim_ntoinftybigg(2-sqrt1- 1/x^2bigg )^n = infty$$






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                  $$lim_ntoinfty frac(2x+sqrtx^2-1)^n+(2x-sqrtx^2-1)^nx^n$$



                  $$= lim_ntoinftybigg (2+sqrt1- 1/x^2bigg)^n+lim_ntoinftybigg(2-sqrt1- 1/x^2bigg )^n = infty$$







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