Casting a Smite, then Twinned Spell on a Booming Blade?

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Let's say as a Stone Sorcerer, I'm fighting two creatures within 5 feet of each other. So I cast Thunderous Smite as a bonus action, then twin spell a Booming Blade on one of the creatures.

Does Thunderous Smite mean that both creatures need to make a saving throw or else be knocked away or only one of them needs to but both of them gets the Booming Blade effect?

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Let's say as a Stone Sorcerer, I'm fighting two creatures within 5 feet of each other. So I cast Thunderous Smite as a bonus action, then twin spell a Booming Blade on one of the creatures.

Does Thunderous Smite mean that both creatures need to make a saving throw or else be knocked away or only one of them needs to but both of them gets the Booming Blade effect?

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Let's say as a Stone Sorcerer, I'm fighting two creatures within 5 feet of each other. So I cast Thunderous Smite as a bonus action, then twin spell a Booming Blade on one of the creatures.

Does Thunderous Smite mean that both creatures need to make a saving throw or else be knocked away or only one of them needs to but both of them gets the Booming Blade effect?

dnd-5e spells sorcerer unearthed-arcana

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Let's say as a Stone Sorcerer, I'm fighting two creatures within 5 feet of each other. So I cast Thunderous Smite as a bonus action, then twin spell a Booming Blade on one of the creatures.

Does Thunderous Smite mean that both creatures need to make a saving throw or else be knocked away or only one of them needs to but both of them gets the Booming Blade effect?

dnd-5e spells sorcerer unearthed-arcana

dnd-5e spells sorcerer unearthed-arcana

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One creature is affected by Thunderous Smite, both affected by Booming Blade

The wording on Thunderous Smite is pretty unambiguous:

The first time you hit with a melee weapon attack during this spell's duration, your weapon rings with thunder...

Regardless of the circumstances of Booming Blade, and it being twinned, only one of those melee strikes will be allowed to benefit from Thunderous Smite.

There's no restriction on Booming Blade stacking with Thunderous Smite, though, and Twinned Spell has already been confirmed to work on Booming Blade, so as best as I can determine, this is still a reasonably powerful/viable combo.

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  @Slagmoth Fighters get to attack 2/3/4/8 times in a round and nobody bats an eye, but a Sorcerer attacks twice in a round, and suddenly everyone is losing their mind! =D
  – Xirema
  1 hour ago
  
  

  
  
  
  


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  @Slagmoth For Booming Blade specifically, I'm imagining Twinned Spell just making the effect sort of echo to the target next to the initial one since it's sound-based
  – Cyanic
  56 mins ago
  

  
  
  
  


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  If you can twin Shocking Grasp, you can twin Booming Blade.
  – T.J.L.
  31 mins ago
  

  
  
  
  


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  @T.J.L. I have the same narrative connundrum with that as well.. but again... just a narrative issue... mechanically it is clearly ok.
  – Slagmoth
  30 mins ago
  

  
  
  
  


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  @Slagmoth I know, but I dislike just handwaving things, especially if we get a cool effect out of explaining it. We could say Twinned Spell actually merges two timelines/possibilities together very temporarily, one where creature A is hit and another where creature B is hit. By merging both timelines, both creatures are hit in both timelines, so the effect would look like growing a second arm, but really it's just a dimensional echo/shadow
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One creature is affected by Thunderous Smite, both affected by Booming Blade

The wording on Thunderous Smite is pretty unambiguous:

The first time you hit with a melee weapon attack during this spell's duration, your weapon rings with thunder...

Regardless of the circumstances of Booming Blade, and it being twinned, only one of those melee strikes will be allowed to benefit from Thunderous Smite.

There's no restriction on Booming Blade stacking with Thunderous Smite, though, and Twinned Spell has already been confirmed to work on Booming Blade, so as best as I can determine, this is still a reasonably powerful/viable combo.

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answered 1 hour ago

Xirema

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• 
  
  
  

  
  3
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  @Slagmoth Fighters get to attack 2/3/4/8 times in a round and nobody bats an eye, but a Sorcerer attacks twice in a round, and suddenly everyone is losing their mind! =D
  – Xirema
  1 hour ago
  
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  @Slagmoth For Booming Blade specifically, I'm imagining Twinned Spell just making the effect sort of echo to the target next to the initial one since it's sound-based
  – Cyanic
  56 mins ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  1
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  If you can twin Shocking Grasp, you can twin Booming Blade.
  – T.J.L.
  31 mins ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  @T.J.L. I have the same narrative connundrum with that as well.. but again... just a narrative issue... mechanically it is clearly ok.
  – Slagmoth
  30 mins ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  @Slagmoth I know, but I dislike just handwaving things, especially if we get a cool effect out of explaining it. We could say Twinned Spell actually merges two timelines/possibilities together very temporarily, one where creature A is hit and another where creature B is hit. By merging both timelines, both creatures are hit in both timelines, so the effect would look like growing a second arm, but really it's just a dimensional echo/shadow
  – Cyanic
  26 mins ago
  

  
  
  
  

 | 
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up vote
7
down vote



accepted

One creature is affected by Thunderous Smite, both affected by Booming Blade

The wording on Thunderous Smite is pretty unambiguous:

The first time you hit with a melee weapon attack during this spell's duration, your weapon rings with thunder...

Regardless of the circumstances of Booming Blade, and it being twinned, only one of those melee strikes will be allowed to benefit from Thunderous Smite.

There's no restriction on Booming Blade stacking with Thunderous Smite, though, and Twinned Spell has already been confirmed to work on Booming Blade, so as best as I can determine, this is still a reasonably powerful/viable combo.

share|improve this answer

answered 1 hour ago

Xirema

6,9871852

• 
  
  
  

  
  3
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  @Slagmoth Fighters get to attack 2/3/4/8 times in a round and nobody bats an eye, but a Sorcerer attacks twice in a round, and suddenly everyone is losing their mind! =D
  – Xirema
  1 hour ago
  
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  @Slagmoth For Booming Blade specifically, I'm imagining Twinned Spell just making the effect sort of echo to the target next to the initial one since it's sound-based
  – Cyanic
  56 mins ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  1
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  If you can twin Shocking Grasp, you can twin Booming Blade.
  – T.J.L.
  31 mins ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  @T.J.L. I have the same narrative connundrum with that as well.. but again... just a narrative issue... mechanically it is clearly ok.
  – Slagmoth
  30 mins ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  @Slagmoth I know, but I dislike just handwaving things, especially if we get a cool effect out of explaining it. We could say Twinned Spell actually merges two timelines/possibilities together very temporarily, one where creature A is hit and another where creature B is hit. By merging both timelines, both creatures are hit in both timelines, so the effect would look like growing a second arm, but really it's just a dimensional echo/shadow
  – Cyanic
  26 mins ago
  

  
  
  
  

 | 
show 4 more comments

up vote
7
down vote



accepted

up vote
7
down vote



accepted

One creature is affected by Thunderous Smite, both affected by Booming Blade

The wording on Thunderous Smite is pretty unambiguous:

The first time you hit with a melee weapon attack during this spell's duration, your weapon rings with thunder...

Regardless of the circumstances of Booming Blade, and it being twinned, only one of those melee strikes will be allowed to benefit from Thunderous Smite.

There's no restriction on Booming Blade stacking with Thunderous Smite, though, and Twinned Spell has already been confirmed to work on Booming Blade, so as best as I can determine, this is still a reasonably powerful/viable combo.

share|improve this answer

answered 1 hour ago

Xirema

6,9871852

One creature is affected by Thunderous Smite, both affected by Booming Blade

The wording on Thunderous Smite is pretty unambiguous:

The first time you hit with a melee weapon attack during this spell's duration, your weapon rings with thunder...

Regardless of the circumstances of Booming Blade, and it being twinned, only one of those melee strikes will be allowed to benefit from Thunderous Smite.

There's no restriction on Booming Blade stacking with Thunderous Smite, though, and Twinned Spell has already been confirmed to work on Booming Blade, so as best as I can determine, this is still a reasonably powerful/viable combo.

share|improve this answer

answered 1 hour ago

Xirema

6,9871852

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answered 1 hour ago

Xirema

6,9871852

answered 1 hour ago

Xirema

6,9871852

answered 1 hour ago

Xirema

6,9871852

6,9871852

• 
  
  
  

  
  3
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  @Slagmoth Fighters get to attack 2/3/4/8 times in a round and nobody bats an eye, but a Sorcerer attacks twice in a round, and suddenly everyone is losing their mind! =D
  – Xirema
  1 hour ago
  
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  @Slagmoth For Booming Blade specifically, I'm imagining Twinned Spell just making the effect sort of echo to the target next to the initial one since it's sound-based
  – Cyanic
  56 mins ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  1
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  If you can twin Shocking Grasp, you can twin Booming Blade.
  – T.J.L.
  31 mins ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  @T.J.L. I have the same narrative connundrum with that as well.. but again... just a narrative issue... mechanically it is clearly ok.
  – Slagmoth
  30 mins ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  @Slagmoth I know, but I dislike just handwaving things, especially if we get a cool effect out of explaining it. We could say Twinned Spell actually merges two timelines/possibilities together very temporarily, one where creature A is hit and another where creature B is hit. By merging both timelines, both creatures are hit in both timelines, so the effect would look like growing a second arm, but really it's just a dimensional echo/shadow
  – Cyanic
  26 mins ago
  

  
  
  
  

 | 
show 4 more comments

• 
  
  
  

  
  3
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  @Slagmoth Fighters get to attack 2/3/4/8 times in a round and nobody bats an eye, but a Sorcerer attacks twice in a round, and suddenly everyone is losing their mind! =D
  – Xirema
  1 hour ago
  
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  @Slagmoth For Booming Blade specifically, I'm imagining Twinned Spell just making the effect sort of echo to the target next to the initial one since it's sound-based
  – Cyanic
  56 mins ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  1
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  If you can twin Shocking Grasp, you can twin Booming Blade.
  – T.J.L.
  31 mins ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  @T.J.L. I have the same narrative connundrum with that as well.. but again... just a narrative issue... mechanically it is clearly ok.
  – Slagmoth
  30 mins ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  @Slagmoth I know, but I dislike just handwaving things, especially if we get a cool effect out of explaining it. We could say Twinned Spell actually merges two timelines/possibilities together very temporarily, one where creature A is hit and another where creature B is hit. By merging both timelines, both creatures are hit in both timelines, so the effect would look like growing a second arm, but really it's just a dimensional echo/shadow
  – Cyanic
  26 mins ago
  

  
  
  
  

3

3

@Slagmoth Fighters get to attack 2/3/4/8 times in a round and nobody bats an eye, but a Sorcerer attacks twice in a round, and suddenly everyone is losing their mind! =D
– Xirema
1 hour ago

@Slagmoth Fighters get to attack 2/3/4/8 times in a round and nobody bats an eye, but a Sorcerer attacks twice in a round, and suddenly everyone is losing their mind! =D
– Xirema
1 hour ago

@Slagmoth For Booming Blade specifically, I'm imagining Twinned Spell just making the effect sort of echo to the target next to the initial one since it's sound-based
– Cyanic
56 mins ago

@Slagmoth For Booming Blade specifically, I'm imagining Twinned Spell just making the effect sort of echo to the target next to the initial one since it's sound-based
– Cyanic
56 mins ago

1

1

If you can twin Shocking Grasp, you can twin Booming Blade.
– T.J.L.
31 mins ago

If you can twin Shocking Grasp, you can twin Booming Blade.
– T.J.L.
31 mins ago

@T.J.L. I have the same narrative connundrum with that as well.. but again... just a narrative issue... mechanically it is clearly ok.
– Slagmoth
30 mins ago

@T.J.L. I have the same narrative connundrum with that as well.. but again... just a narrative issue... mechanically it is clearly ok.
– Slagmoth
30 mins ago

@Slagmoth I know, but I dislike just handwaving things, especially if we get a cool effect out of explaining it. We could say Twinned Spell actually merges two timelines/possibilities together very temporarily, one where creature A is hit and another where creature B is hit. By merging both timelines, both creatures are hit in both timelines, so the effect would look like growing a second arm, but really it's just a dimensional echo/shadow
– Cyanic
26 mins ago

@Slagmoth I know, but I dislike just handwaving things, especially if we get a cool effect out of explaining it. We could say Twinned Spell actually merges two timelines/possibilities together very temporarily, one where creature A is hit and another where creature B is hit. By merging both timelines, both creatures are hit in both timelines, so the effect would look like growing a second arm, but really it's just a dimensional echo/shadow
– Cyanic
26 mins ago

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