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Twinned Spell says:
When you cast a spell that targets only one creature and doesn't have a range of self [...] To be eligible, a spell must be incapable of targeting more than one creature at the spell’s current level.
Does hex meet this definition?
While hex initially targets only one creature, later on it explicitly allows you to choose a new target which would mean that it would be targeting more than one creature. And Twinned Spell does not seem to limit the restriction on targeting to any given time frame.
You place a curse on a creature you can see within range. [...] If the target drops to 0 hit points before this spell ends, you can use a bonus action on a subsequent turn of yours to curse a new creature.
Does this ability to choose a new target disqualify hex from being used with Twinned Spell?
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Twinned Spell says:
When you cast a spell that targets only one creature and doesn't have a range of self [...] To be eligible, a spell must be incapable of targeting more than one creature at the spell’s current level.
Does hex meet this definition?
While hex initially targets only one creature, later on it explicitly allows you to choose a new target which would mean that it would be targeting more than one creature. And Twinned Spell does not seem to limit the restriction on targeting to any given time frame.
You place a curse on a creature you can see within range. [...] If the target drops to 0 hit points before this spell ends, you can use a bonus action on a subsequent turn of yours to curse a new creature.
Does this ability to choose a new target disqualify hex from being used with Twinned Spell?
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Related on how Hex would work after being Twinned, but it assumes that it can be Twinned: Can a Twinned Hex be targeted at or moved onto a single creature?
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Twinned Spell says:
When you cast a spell that targets only one creature and doesn't have a range of self [...] To be eligible, a spell must be incapable of targeting more than one creature at the spell’s current level.
Does hex meet this definition?
While hex initially targets only one creature, later on it explicitly allows you to choose a new target which would mean that it would be targeting more than one creature. And Twinned Spell does not seem to limit the restriction on targeting to any given time frame.
You place a curse on a creature you can see within range. [...] If the target drops to 0 hit points before this spell ends, you can use a bonus action on a subsequent turn of yours to curse a new creature.
Does this ability to choose a new target disqualify hex from being used with Twinned Spell?
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Twinned Spell says:
When you cast a spell that targets only one creature and doesn't have a range of self [...] To be eligible, a spell must be incapable of targeting more than one creature at the spell’s current level.
Does hex meet this definition?
While hex initially targets only one creature, later on it explicitly allows you to choose a new target which would mean that it would be targeting more than one creature. And Twinned Spell does not seem to limit the restriction on targeting to any given time frame.
You place a curse on a creature you can see within range. [...] If the target drops to 0 hit points before this spell ends, you can use a bonus action on a subsequent turn of yours to curse a new creature.
Does this ability to choose a new target disqualify hex from being used with Twinned Spell?
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Related on how Hex would work after being Twinned, but it assumes that it can be Twinned: Can a Twinned Hex be targeted at or moved onto a single creature?
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Related on how Hex would work after being Twinned, but it assumes that it can be Twinned: Can a Twinned Hex be targeted at or moved onto a single creature?
– Rubiksmoose
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Related on how Hex would work after being Twinned, but it assumes that it can be Twinned: Can a Twinned Hex be targeted at or moved onto a single creature?
– Rubiksmoose
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Related on how Hex would work after being Twinned, but it assumes that it can be Twinned: Can a Twinned Hex be targeted at or moved onto a single creature?
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It depends on how you define "targets only one creature"
When you cast a spell that targets only one creature and doesn't have a range of self [...] To be eligible, a spell must be incapable of targeting more than one creature at the spell’s current level.
To answer this, we need to drill down and answer thoroughly what a "target" is in 5th edition D&D.
The Crawford School of Linguistics proudly declares NO!
Jeremy Crawford specifies that spells like Dragon's Breath, for example, "can affect more than one creature", and is therefore ineligible for being Twinned. This implies that to Crawford, a spell "targets" anything it can affect. So in this reading, Hex, being able to "affect" more than one creature, is ineligible to be twinned.
The Formal Reading of Spellcasting Targets begets Confusion and Ambiguity
In the Player's Handbook, Chapter 10 "Spellcasting", subsection "Targets", the concept of a spell's targets is described like this:
A typical spell requires you to pick one or more targets to be affected by the spell's magic. A spell's description tells you whether the spell targets creatures, objects, or a point of origin for an area of effect (described below).
So here's how I read this:
I go to cast Dragon's Breath. Dragon's Breath targets one creature: the creature I'm placing the "buff" upon. The "buff" on that creature permits it to deal an AOE damage effect, but at no point during the casting of the spell did I, the person casting the spell, target more than one person.
Therefore, the spell targeted only one person, and is eligible for being Twinned.
But this wouldn't make Hex eligible, because you choose the secondary/tertiary targets
Under this reading, the spell only becomes eligible if the spell itself does not target an additional creature. Hex still grants the ability to target an additional creature (and specifically grants this capability to the caster) so it remains ineligible
The School of Simultaneity Issues an Injunction and says YES! (but isn't very convincing)
Hex might be able to affect more than one creature, but it only affects one creature at any given time. One possible reading of Twinned Spell is to argue that because Hex cannot affect multiple creatures at once, it is therefore eligible to be Twinned.
This is a bit of a stretch though, because it requires a very specific interpretation of "targets only one creature" to infer "at once" at the end.
The School of Postmodernism asks: what even is a "target", really?
Does Hex "target" a single creature, and all other effects are tertiary and not "targets", or does Hex "target" a single creature, and then "target" a second creature, and then "target" a third creature? Does "target" require the word "target" to actually appear in the spell description when specifying secondary effects, or does the phrase "you can use a bonus action on a subsequent turn of yours to curse a new creature" imply the spell is not "targeting" another creature? Does the word "target" seem weird to anyone else? Are words even real? Does anything actually exist?
The School of Pragmatism says: Probably not
Relaxing the definition of "target" to mean "anything affected by a spell" is, to me, a bad precedent, which is why I do not agree with Crawford's ruling on Dragon's Breath, or on a large number of other spells potentially valid/invalid for being Twinned. I suspect this may have been made on Balancing implications, not on clarity/conciseness implications, but to me, when I target a spell, I choose whom it applies to.
At the time I cast Hex, I'm targeting one creature. At some later point, I can transfer the spell by targeting someone else. So I think it's fair to say that ultimately, Hex cannot be a valid spell to be Twinned. But other spells like Haste, Dragon's Breath, etc. where I'm only "choosing" a single creature to be affected, should be valid targets, even if the outcome of their effects is to affect more than one creature.
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The wording you used originally was a little off but it still says "incapable of targeting..." like you said previously. It was errata'd.
– Rubiksmoose
25 mins ago
@Rubiksmoose I don't have access to the errata'd version of the wording, so if someone wants to edit that into my post, I'd appreciate it.
– Xirema
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I added it for you.
– Rubiksmoose
21 mins ago
Dr Xirema, that was an enjoyable read. Covered all of the bases.
– KorvinStarmast
18 mins ago
Does Crawford scecifically mention Hex? I really don't think it's comparable to Dragon's Breath. Your "pragmatic" section should honestly stand alone as its own answer.
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You can't twin hex
Twinned spell states (as of the first official errata):
To be eligible, a spell must be incapable of targeting more than one creature at the spell’s current level.
Hex is able to target more than one creature if the first one dies so it is ineligible.
This is reinforced by Jeremy Crawford, lead designer, where he talks about the telekinesis spell on twitter:
Telekinesis can affect multiple creatures over the course of its duration. It's not eligible for Twinned Spell.
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Is that rule on Twinned Spell from DnDBeyond or Errata? Because it isn't in the PHB, although I know it is JC's ruling.
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@GreySage it's in Errata (and recent printings) I'll clarify
– David Coffron
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@Rubiksmoose it is?
– David Coffron
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@DavidCoffron yup I was reading between Xirema's answer and yours and also not expecting it to be at the end. All is understood now!
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It depends on how you define "targets only one creature"
When you cast a spell that targets only one creature and doesn't have a range of self [...] To be eligible, a spell must be incapable of targeting more than one creature at the spell’s current level.
To answer this, we need to drill down and answer thoroughly what a "target" is in 5th edition D&D.
The Crawford School of Linguistics proudly declares NO!
Jeremy Crawford specifies that spells like Dragon's Breath, for example, "can affect more than one creature", and is therefore ineligible for being Twinned. This implies that to Crawford, a spell "targets" anything it can affect. So in this reading, Hex, being able to "affect" more than one creature, is ineligible to be twinned.
The Formal Reading of Spellcasting Targets begets Confusion and Ambiguity
In the Player's Handbook, Chapter 10 "Spellcasting", subsection "Targets", the concept of a spell's targets is described like this:
A typical spell requires you to pick one or more targets to be affected by the spell's magic. A spell's description tells you whether the spell targets creatures, objects, or a point of origin for an area of effect (described below).
So here's how I read this:
I go to cast Dragon's Breath. Dragon's Breath targets one creature: the creature I'm placing the "buff" upon. The "buff" on that creature permits it to deal an AOE damage effect, but at no point during the casting of the spell did I, the person casting the spell, target more than one person.
Therefore, the spell targeted only one person, and is eligible for being Twinned.
But this wouldn't make Hex eligible, because you choose the secondary/tertiary targets
Under this reading, the spell only becomes eligible if the spell itself does not target an additional creature. Hex still grants the ability to target an additional creature (and specifically grants this capability to the caster) so it remains ineligible
The School of Simultaneity Issues an Injunction and says YES! (but isn't very convincing)
Hex might be able to affect more than one creature, but it only affects one creature at any given time. One possible reading of Twinned Spell is to argue that because Hex cannot affect multiple creatures at once, it is therefore eligible to be Twinned.
This is a bit of a stretch though, because it requires a very specific interpretation of "targets only one creature" to infer "at once" at the end.
The School of Postmodernism asks: what even is a "target", really?
Does Hex "target" a single creature, and all other effects are tertiary and not "targets", or does Hex "target" a single creature, and then "target" a second creature, and then "target" a third creature? Does "target" require the word "target" to actually appear in the spell description when specifying secondary effects, or does the phrase "you can use a bonus action on a subsequent turn of yours to curse a new creature" imply the spell is not "targeting" another creature? Does the word "target" seem weird to anyone else? Are words even real? Does anything actually exist?
The School of Pragmatism says: Probably not
Relaxing the definition of "target" to mean "anything affected by a spell" is, to me, a bad precedent, which is why I do not agree with Crawford's ruling on Dragon's Breath, or on a large number of other spells potentially valid/invalid for being Twinned. I suspect this may have been made on Balancing implications, not on clarity/conciseness implications, but to me, when I target a spell, I choose whom it applies to.
At the time I cast Hex, I'm targeting one creature. At some later point, I can transfer the spell by targeting someone else. So I think it's fair to say that ultimately, Hex cannot be a valid spell to be Twinned. But other spells like Haste, Dragon's Breath, etc. where I'm only "choosing" a single creature to be affected, should be valid targets, even if the outcome of their effects is to affect more than one creature.
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The wording you used originally was a little off but it still says "incapable of targeting..." like you said previously. It was errata'd.
– Rubiksmoose
25 mins ago
@Rubiksmoose I don't have access to the errata'd version of the wording, so if someone wants to edit that into my post, I'd appreciate it.
– Xirema
24 mins ago
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I added it for you.
– Rubiksmoose
21 mins ago
Dr Xirema, that was an enjoyable read. Covered all of the bases.
– KorvinStarmast
18 mins ago
Does Crawford scecifically mention Hex? I really don't think it's comparable to Dragon's Breath. Your "pragmatic" section should honestly stand alone as its own answer.
– Jason_c_o
10 mins ago
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It depends on how you define "targets only one creature"
When you cast a spell that targets only one creature and doesn't have a range of self [...] To be eligible, a spell must be incapable of targeting more than one creature at the spell’s current level.
To answer this, we need to drill down and answer thoroughly what a "target" is in 5th edition D&D.
The Crawford School of Linguistics proudly declares NO!
Jeremy Crawford specifies that spells like Dragon's Breath, for example, "can affect more than one creature", and is therefore ineligible for being Twinned. This implies that to Crawford, a spell "targets" anything it can affect. So in this reading, Hex, being able to "affect" more than one creature, is ineligible to be twinned.
The Formal Reading of Spellcasting Targets begets Confusion and Ambiguity
In the Player's Handbook, Chapter 10 "Spellcasting", subsection "Targets", the concept of a spell's targets is described like this:
A typical spell requires you to pick one or more targets to be affected by the spell's magic. A spell's description tells you whether the spell targets creatures, objects, or a point of origin for an area of effect (described below).
So here's how I read this:
I go to cast Dragon's Breath. Dragon's Breath targets one creature: the creature I'm placing the "buff" upon. The "buff" on that creature permits it to deal an AOE damage effect, but at no point during the casting of the spell did I, the person casting the spell, target more than one person.
Therefore, the spell targeted only one person, and is eligible for being Twinned.
But this wouldn't make Hex eligible, because you choose the secondary/tertiary targets
Under this reading, the spell only becomes eligible if the spell itself does not target an additional creature. Hex still grants the ability to target an additional creature (and specifically grants this capability to the caster) so it remains ineligible
The School of Simultaneity Issues an Injunction and says YES! (but isn't very convincing)
Hex might be able to affect more than one creature, but it only affects one creature at any given time. One possible reading of Twinned Spell is to argue that because Hex cannot affect multiple creatures at once, it is therefore eligible to be Twinned.
This is a bit of a stretch though, because it requires a very specific interpretation of "targets only one creature" to infer "at once" at the end.
The School of Postmodernism asks: what even is a "target", really?
Does Hex "target" a single creature, and all other effects are tertiary and not "targets", or does Hex "target" a single creature, and then "target" a second creature, and then "target" a third creature? Does "target" require the word "target" to actually appear in the spell description when specifying secondary effects, or does the phrase "you can use a bonus action on a subsequent turn of yours to curse a new creature" imply the spell is not "targeting" another creature? Does the word "target" seem weird to anyone else? Are words even real? Does anything actually exist?
The School of Pragmatism says: Probably not
Relaxing the definition of "target" to mean "anything affected by a spell" is, to me, a bad precedent, which is why I do not agree with Crawford's ruling on Dragon's Breath, or on a large number of other spells potentially valid/invalid for being Twinned. I suspect this may have been made on Balancing implications, not on clarity/conciseness implications, but to me, when I target a spell, I choose whom it applies to.
At the time I cast Hex, I'm targeting one creature. At some later point, I can transfer the spell by targeting someone else. So I think it's fair to say that ultimately, Hex cannot be a valid spell to be Twinned. But other spells like Haste, Dragon's Breath, etc. where I'm only "choosing" a single creature to be affected, should be valid targets, even if the outcome of their effects is to affect more than one creature.
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Xirema
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The wording you used originally was a little off but it still says "incapable of targeting..." like you said previously. It was errata'd.
– Rubiksmoose
25 mins ago
@Rubiksmoose I don't have access to the errata'd version of the wording, so if someone wants to edit that into my post, I'd appreciate it.
– Xirema
24 mins ago
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I added it for you.
– Rubiksmoose
21 mins ago
Dr Xirema, that was an enjoyable read. Covered all of the bases.
– KorvinStarmast
18 mins ago
Does Crawford scecifically mention Hex? I really don't think it's comparable to Dragon's Breath. Your "pragmatic" section should honestly stand alone as its own answer.
– Jason_c_o
10 mins ago
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It depends on how you define "targets only one creature"
When you cast a spell that targets only one creature and doesn't have a range of self [...] To be eligible, a spell must be incapable of targeting more than one creature at the spell’s current level.
To answer this, we need to drill down and answer thoroughly what a "target" is in 5th edition D&D.
The Crawford School of Linguistics proudly declares NO!
Jeremy Crawford specifies that spells like Dragon's Breath, for example, "can affect more than one creature", and is therefore ineligible for being Twinned. This implies that to Crawford, a spell "targets" anything it can affect. So in this reading, Hex, being able to "affect" more than one creature, is ineligible to be twinned.
The Formal Reading of Spellcasting Targets begets Confusion and Ambiguity
In the Player's Handbook, Chapter 10 "Spellcasting", subsection "Targets", the concept of a spell's targets is described like this:
A typical spell requires you to pick one or more targets to be affected by the spell's magic. A spell's description tells you whether the spell targets creatures, objects, or a point of origin for an area of effect (described below).
So here's how I read this:
I go to cast Dragon's Breath. Dragon's Breath targets one creature: the creature I'm placing the "buff" upon. The "buff" on that creature permits it to deal an AOE damage effect, but at no point during the casting of the spell did I, the person casting the spell, target more than one person.
Therefore, the spell targeted only one person, and is eligible for being Twinned.
But this wouldn't make Hex eligible, because you choose the secondary/tertiary targets
Under this reading, the spell only becomes eligible if the spell itself does not target an additional creature. Hex still grants the ability to target an additional creature (and specifically grants this capability to the caster) so it remains ineligible
The School of Simultaneity Issues an Injunction and says YES! (but isn't very convincing)
Hex might be able to affect more than one creature, but it only affects one creature at any given time. One possible reading of Twinned Spell is to argue that because Hex cannot affect multiple creatures at once, it is therefore eligible to be Twinned.
This is a bit of a stretch though, because it requires a very specific interpretation of "targets only one creature" to infer "at once" at the end.
The School of Postmodernism asks: what even is a "target", really?
Does Hex "target" a single creature, and all other effects are tertiary and not "targets", or does Hex "target" a single creature, and then "target" a second creature, and then "target" a third creature? Does "target" require the word "target" to actually appear in the spell description when specifying secondary effects, or does the phrase "you can use a bonus action on a subsequent turn of yours to curse a new creature" imply the spell is not "targeting" another creature? Does the word "target" seem weird to anyone else? Are words even real? Does anything actually exist?
The School of Pragmatism says: Probably not
Relaxing the definition of "target" to mean "anything affected by a spell" is, to me, a bad precedent, which is why I do not agree with Crawford's ruling on Dragon's Breath, or on a large number of other spells potentially valid/invalid for being Twinned. I suspect this may have been made on Balancing implications, not on clarity/conciseness implications, but to me, when I target a spell, I choose whom it applies to.
At the time I cast Hex, I'm targeting one creature. At some later point, I can transfer the spell by targeting someone else. So I think it's fair to say that ultimately, Hex cannot be a valid spell to be Twinned. But other spells like Haste, Dragon's Breath, etc. where I'm only "choosing" a single creature to be affected, should be valid targets, even if the outcome of their effects is to affect more than one creature.
edited 23 mins ago
Rubiksmoose
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answered 38 mins ago
Xirema
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It depends on how you define "targets only one creature"
When you cast a spell that targets only one creature and doesn't have a range of self [...] To be eligible, a spell must be incapable of targeting more than one creature at the spell’s current level.
To answer this, we need to drill down and answer thoroughly what a "target" is in 5th edition D&D.
The Crawford School of Linguistics proudly declares NO!
Jeremy Crawford specifies that spells like Dragon's Breath, for example, "can affect more than one creature", and is therefore ineligible for being Twinned. This implies that to Crawford, a spell "targets" anything it can affect. So in this reading, Hex, being able to "affect" more than one creature, is ineligible to be twinned.
The Formal Reading of Spellcasting Targets begets Confusion and Ambiguity
In the Player's Handbook, Chapter 10 "Spellcasting", subsection "Targets", the concept of a spell's targets is described like this:
A typical spell requires you to pick one or more targets to be affected by the spell's magic. A spell's description tells you whether the spell targets creatures, objects, or a point of origin for an area of effect (described below).
So here's how I read this:
I go to cast Dragon's Breath. Dragon's Breath targets one creature: the creature I'm placing the "buff" upon. The "buff" on that creature permits it to deal an AOE damage effect, but at no point during the casting of the spell did I, the person casting the spell, target more than one person.
Therefore, the spell targeted only one person, and is eligible for being Twinned.
But this wouldn't make Hex eligible, because you choose the secondary/tertiary targets
Under this reading, the spell only becomes eligible if the spell itself does not target an additional creature. Hex still grants the ability to target an additional creature (and specifically grants this capability to the caster) so it remains ineligible
The School of Simultaneity Issues an Injunction and says YES! (but isn't very convincing)
Hex might be able to affect more than one creature, but it only affects one creature at any given time. One possible reading of Twinned Spell is to argue that because Hex cannot affect multiple creatures at once, it is therefore eligible to be Twinned.
This is a bit of a stretch though, because it requires a very specific interpretation of "targets only one creature" to infer "at once" at the end.
The School of Postmodernism asks: what even is a "target", really?
Does Hex "target" a single creature, and all other effects are tertiary and not "targets", or does Hex "target" a single creature, and then "target" a second creature, and then "target" a third creature? Does "target" require the word "target" to actually appear in the spell description when specifying secondary effects, or does the phrase "you can use a bonus action on a subsequent turn of yours to curse a new creature" imply the spell is not "targeting" another creature? Does the word "target" seem weird to anyone else? Are words even real? Does anything actually exist?
The School of Pragmatism says: Probably not
Relaxing the definition of "target" to mean "anything affected by a spell" is, to me, a bad precedent, which is why I do not agree with Crawford's ruling on Dragon's Breath, or on a large number of other spells potentially valid/invalid for being Twinned. I suspect this may have been made on Balancing implications, not on clarity/conciseness implications, but to me, when I target a spell, I choose whom it applies to.
At the time I cast Hex, I'm targeting one creature. At some later point, I can transfer the spell by targeting someone else. So I think it's fair to say that ultimately, Hex cannot be a valid spell to be Twinned. But other spells like Haste, Dragon's Breath, etc. where I'm only "choosing" a single creature to be affected, should be valid targets, even if the outcome of their effects is to affect more than one creature.
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The wording you used originally was a little off but it still says "incapable of targeting..." like you said previously. It was errata'd.
– Rubiksmoose
25 mins ago
@Rubiksmoose I don't have access to the errata'd version of the wording, so if someone wants to edit that into my post, I'd appreciate it.
– Xirema
24 mins ago
1
I added it for you.
– Rubiksmoose
21 mins ago
Dr Xirema, that was an enjoyable read. Covered all of the bases.
– KorvinStarmast
18 mins ago
Does Crawford scecifically mention Hex? I really don't think it's comparable to Dragon's Breath. Your "pragmatic" section should honestly stand alone as its own answer.
– Jason_c_o
10 mins ago
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The wording you used originally was a little off but it still says "incapable of targeting..." like you said previously. It was errata'd.
– Rubiksmoose
25 mins ago
@Rubiksmoose I don't have access to the errata'd version of the wording, so if someone wants to edit that into my post, I'd appreciate it.
– Xirema
24 mins ago
1
I added it for you.
– Rubiksmoose
21 mins ago
Dr Xirema, that was an enjoyable read. Covered all of the bases.
– KorvinStarmast
18 mins ago
Does Crawford scecifically mention Hex? I really don't think it's comparable to Dragon's Breath. Your "pragmatic" section should honestly stand alone as its own answer.
– Jason_c_o
10 mins ago
The wording you used originally was a little off but it still says "incapable of targeting..." like you said previously. It was errata'd.
– Rubiksmoose
25 mins ago
The wording you used originally was a little off but it still says "incapable of targeting..." like you said previously. It was errata'd.
– Rubiksmoose
25 mins ago
@Rubiksmoose I don't have access to the errata'd version of the wording, so if someone wants to edit that into my post, I'd appreciate it.
– Xirema
24 mins ago
@Rubiksmoose I don't have access to the errata'd version of the wording, so if someone wants to edit that into my post, I'd appreciate it.
– Xirema
24 mins ago
1
1
I added it for you.
– Rubiksmoose
21 mins ago
I added it for you.
– Rubiksmoose
21 mins ago
Dr Xirema, that was an enjoyable read. Covered all of the bases.
– KorvinStarmast
18 mins ago
Dr Xirema, that was an enjoyable read. Covered all of the bases.
– KorvinStarmast
18 mins ago
Does Crawford scecifically mention Hex? I really don't think it's comparable to Dragon's Breath. Your "pragmatic" section should honestly stand alone as its own answer.
– Jason_c_o
10 mins ago
Does Crawford scecifically mention Hex? I really don't think it's comparable to Dragon's Breath. Your "pragmatic" section should honestly stand alone as its own answer.
– Jason_c_o
10 mins ago
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You can't twin hex
Twinned spell states (as of the first official errata):
To be eligible, a spell must be incapable of targeting more than one creature at the spell’s current level.
Hex is able to target more than one creature if the first one dies so it is ineligible.
This is reinforced by Jeremy Crawford, lead designer, where he talks about the telekinesis spell on twitter:
Telekinesis can affect multiple creatures over the course of its duration. It's not eligible for Twinned Spell.
answered 1 hour ago
David Coffron
27.6k293188
Is that rule on Twinned Spell from DnDBeyond or Errata? Because it isn't in the PHB, although I know it is JC's ruling.
– GreySage
47 mins ago
@GreySage it's in Errata (and recent printings) I'll clarify
– David Coffron
46 mins ago
@Rubiksmoose it is?
– David Coffron
28 mins ago
@DavidCoffron yup I was reading between Xirema's answer and yours and also not expecting it to be at the end. All is understood now!
– Rubiksmoose
27 mins ago
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up vote
3
down vote
You can't twin hex
Twinned spell states (as of the first official errata):
To be eligible, a spell must be incapable of targeting more than one creature at the spell’s current level.
Hex is able to target more than one creature if the first one dies so it is ineligible.
This is reinforced by Jeremy Crawford, lead designer, where he talks about the telekinesis spell on twitter:
Telekinesis can affect multiple creatures over the course of its duration. It's not eligible for Twinned Spell.
answered 1 hour ago
David Coffron
27.6k293188
Is that rule on Twinned Spell from DnDBeyond or Errata? Because it isn't in the PHB, although I know it is JC's ruling.
– GreySage
47 mins ago
@GreySage it's in Errata (and recent printings) I'll clarify
– David Coffron
46 mins ago
@Rubiksmoose it is?
– David Coffron
28 mins ago
@DavidCoffron yup I was reading between Xirema's answer and yours and also not expecting it to be at the end. All is understood now!
– Rubiksmoose
27 mins ago
add a comment |Â
up vote
3
down vote
up vote
3
down vote
You can't twin hex
Twinned spell states (as of the first official errata):
To be eligible, a spell must be incapable of targeting more than one creature at the spell’s current level.
Hex is able to target more than one creature if the first one dies so it is ineligible.
This is reinforced by Jeremy Crawford, lead designer, where he talks about the telekinesis spell on twitter:
Telekinesis can affect multiple creatures over the course of its duration. It's not eligible for Twinned Spell.
answered 1 hour ago
David Coffron
27.6k293188
You can't twin hex
Twinned spell states (as of the first official errata):
To be eligible, a spell must be incapable of targeting more than one creature at the spell’s current level.
Hex is able to target more than one creature if the first one dies so it is ineligible.
This is reinforced by Jeremy Crawford, lead designer, where he talks about the telekinesis spell on twitter:
Telekinesis can affect multiple creatures over the course of its duration. It's not eligible for Twinned Spell.
answered 1 hour ago
David Coffron
27.6k293188
edited 45 mins ago
answered 1 hour ago
David Coffron
27.6k293188
answered 1 hour ago
David Coffron
27.6k293188
answered 1 hour ago
David Coffron
27.6k293188
27.6k293188
Is that rule on Twinned Spell from DnDBeyond or Errata? Because it isn't in the PHB, although I know it is JC's ruling.
– GreySage
47 mins ago
@GreySage it's in Errata (and recent printings) I'll clarify
– David Coffron
46 mins ago
@Rubiksmoose it is?
– David Coffron
28 mins ago
@DavidCoffron yup I was reading between Xirema's answer and yours and also not expecting it to be at the end. All is understood now!
– Rubiksmoose
27 mins ago
add a comment |Â
Is that rule on Twinned Spell from DnDBeyond or Errata? Because it isn't in the PHB, although I know it is JC's ruling.
– GreySage
47 mins ago
@GreySage it's in Errata (and recent printings) I'll clarify
– David Coffron
46 mins ago
@Rubiksmoose it is?
– David Coffron
28 mins ago
@DavidCoffron yup I was reading between Xirema's answer and yours and also not expecting it to be at the end. All is understood now!
– Rubiksmoose
27 mins ago
Is that rule on Twinned Spell from DnDBeyond or Errata? Because it isn't in the PHB, although I know it is JC's ruling.
– GreySage
47 mins ago
Is that rule on Twinned Spell from DnDBeyond or Errata? Because it isn't in the PHB, although I know it is JC's ruling.
– GreySage
47 mins ago
@GreySage it's in Errata (and recent printings) I'll clarify
– David Coffron
46 mins ago
@GreySage it's in Errata (and recent printings) I'll clarify
– David Coffron
46 mins ago
@Rubiksmoose it is?
– David Coffron
28 mins ago
@Rubiksmoose it is?
– David Coffron
28 mins ago
@DavidCoffron yup I was reading between Xirema's answer and yours and also not expecting it to be at the end. All is understood now!
– Rubiksmoose
27 mins ago
@DavidCoffron yup I was reading between Xirema's answer and yours and also not expecting it to be at the end. All is understood now!
– Rubiksmoose
27 mins ago
add a comment |Â
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Related on how Hex would work after being Twinned, but it assumes that it can be Twinned: Can a Twinned Hex be targeted at or moved onto a single creature?
– Rubiksmoose
1 hour ago