How did the Hogwarts founders sort students?

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Currently the Sorting Hat looks inside a student’s head and determines the traits that best match one of the Hogwarts houses. These may be traits the student has yet to demonstrate or even be aware they possess. So before the sorting hat came into being how did the founders choose students for their houses? They would have needed a way to gain the same insight the Sorting Hat can. So how was this done? Using a magical means of peering into a student’s memories won’t necessarily tell you what the student is capable of in the future. Think of Neville Longbottom for example.










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  • I think the Sorting Hat does exactly what you suggest that the founders might have done. It uses Legilimency to examine students' personalities and guess their best House.
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Currently the Sorting Hat looks inside a student’s head and determines the traits that best match one of the Hogwarts houses. These may be traits the student has yet to demonstrate or even be aware they possess. So before the sorting hat came into being how did the founders choose students for their houses? They would have needed a way to gain the same insight the Sorting Hat can. So how was this done? Using a magical means of peering into a student’s memories won’t necessarily tell you what the student is capable of in the future. Think of Neville Longbottom for example.










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  • I think the Sorting Hat does exactly what you suggest that the founders might have done. It uses Legilimency to examine students' personalities and guess their best House.
    – Adamant
    1 hour ago

















  • I think the Sorting Hat does exactly what you suggest that the founders might have done. It uses Legilimency to examine students' personalities and guess their best House.
    – Adamant
    1 hour ago
















I think the Sorting Hat does exactly what you suggest that the founders might have done. It uses Legilimency to examine students' personalities and guess their best House.
– Adamant
1 hour ago





I think the Sorting Hat does exactly what you suggest that the founders might have done. It uses Legilimency to examine students' personalities and guess their best House.
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When they were still alive, they each chose their house members.



When the Founders were still alive, they had all chosen the students who’d be in their house themselves - the Sorting Hat was created to keep their houses’ values intact when they were dead and couldn’t choose, but when they were alive they’d chosen their own favorites for their houses.




“While still alive they did divide

Their favourites from the throng,


Yet how to pick the worthy ones

When they were dead and gone?”

- Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire, Chapter 12 (The Triwizard Tournament)




However they chose the students for their houses, they would have chosen them themselves. The reason Hogwarts had houses was so each Founder could teach the students they’d prefer.




“Now each of these four founders

Formed their own house, for each

Did value different virtues

In the ones they had to teach.

By Gryffindor, the bravest were

Prized far beyond the rest;

For Ravenclaw, the cleverest

Would always be the best;

For Hufflepuff, hard workers were

Most worthy of admission;

And power-hungry Slytherin

Loved those of great ambition.”

- Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire, Chapter 12 (The Triwizard Tournament)




It’s unclear what exactly their methods in figuring out who was worthy to join their house - but from what the Sorting Hat sings, they did the choosing, through whatever methods, themselves. It’s possible that it was a less “in-depth” Sorting than that of the Sorting Hat. From what the Hat says in his song, it may have even been as simple as the Founders just picking their favorites by choosing which students seem to be most aligned with their preferences. However, it’s not known.






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  • Maybe just a show of hands. "Who wants to be in 'Brave House'? Who wants to be in 'Evil House"?
    – Valorum
    14 mins ago







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    @Valorum That’s possible too! :) The Sorting Hat chooses students by their values, so the Founders could have asked the students directly. I imagine they’d have the power to reject a student they don’t want, though the students themselves could help Sort themselves.
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When they were still alive, they each chose their house members.



When the Founders were still alive, they had all chosen the students who’d be in their house themselves - the Sorting Hat was created to keep their houses’ values intact when they were dead and couldn’t choose, but when they were alive they’d chosen their own favorites for their houses.




“While still alive they did divide

Their favourites from the throng,


Yet how to pick the worthy ones

When they were dead and gone?”

- Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire, Chapter 12 (The Triwizard Tournament)




However they chose the students for their houses, they would have chosen them themselves. The reason Hogwarts had houses was so each Founder could teach the students they’d prefer.




“Now each of these four founders

Formed their own house, for each

Did value different virtues

In the ones they had to teach.

By Gryffindor, the bravest were

Prized far beyond the rest;

For Ravenclaw, the cleverest

Would always be the best;

For Hufflepuff, hard workers were

Most worthy of admission;

And power-hungry Slytherin

Loved those of great ambition.”

- Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire, Chapter 12 (The Triwizard Tournament)




It’s unclear what exactly their methods in figuring out who was worthy to join their house - but from what the Sorting Hat sings, they did the choosing, through whatever methods, themselves. It’s possible that it was a less “in-depth” Sorting than that of the Sorting Hat. From what the Hat says in his song, it may have even been as simple as the Founders just picking their favorites by choosing which students seem to be most aligned with their preferences. However, it’s not known.






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  • Maybe just a show of hands. "Who wants to be in 'Brave House'? Who wants to be in 'Evil House"?
    – Valorum
    14 mins ago







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    @Valorum That’s possible too! :) The Sorting Hat chooses students by their values, so the Founders could have asked the students directly. I imagine they’d have the power to reject a student they don’t want, though the students themselves could help Sort themselves.
    – Bellatrix
    5 mins ago















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When they were still alive, they each chose their house members.



When the Founders were still alive, they had all chosen the students who’d be in their house themselves - the Sorting Hat was created to keep their houses’ values intact when they were dead and couldn’t choose, but when they were alive they’d chosen their own favorites for their houses.




“While still alive they did divide

Their favourites from the throng,


Yet how to pick the worthy ones

When they were dead and gone?”

- Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire, Chapter 12 (The Triwizard Tournament)




However they chose the students for their houses, they would have chosen them themselves. The reason Hogwarts had houses was so each Founder could teach the students they’d prefer.




“Now each of these four founders

Formed their own house, for each

Did value different virtues

In the ones they had to teach.

By Gryffindor, the bravest were

Prized far beyond the rest;

For Ravenclaw, the cleverest

Would always be the best;

For Hufflepuff, hard workers were

Most worthy of admission;

And power-hungry Slytherin

Loved those of great ambition.”

- Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire, Chapter 12 (The Triwizard Tournament)




It’s unclear what exactly their methods in figuring out who was worthy to join their house - but from what the Sorting Hat sings, they did the choosing, through whatever methods, themselves. It’s possible that it was a less “in-depth” Sorting than that of the Sorting Hat. From what the Hat says in his song, it may have even been as simple as the Founders just picking their favorites by choosing which students seem to be most aligned with their preferences. However, it’s not known.






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  • Maybe just a show of hands. "Who wants to be in 'Brave House'? Who wants to be in 'Evil House"?
    – Valorum
    14 mins ago







  • 1




    @Valorum That’s possible too! :) The Sorting Hat chooses students by their values, so the Founders could have asked the students directly. I imagine they’d have the power to reject a student they don’t want, though the students themselves could help Sort themselves.
    – Bellatrix
    5 mins ago













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When they were still alive, they each chose their house members.



When the Founders were still alive, they had all chosen the students who’d be in their house themselves - the Sorting Hat was created to keep their houses’ values intact when they were dead and couldn’t choose, but when they were alive they’d chosen their own favorites for their houses.




“While still alive they did divide

Their favourites from the throng,


Yet how to pick the worthy ones

When they were dead and gone?”

- Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire, Chapter 12 (The Triwizard Tournament)




However they chose the students for their houses, they would have chosen them themselves. The reason Hogwarts had houses was so each Founder could teach the students they’d prefer.




“Now each of these four founders

Formed their own house, for each

Did value different virtues

In the ones they had to teach.

By Gryffindor, the bravest were

Prized far beyond the rest;

For Ravenclaw, the cleverest

Would always be the best;

For Hufflepuff, hard workers were

Most worthy of admission;

And power-hungry Slytherin

Loved those of great ambition.”

- Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire, Chapter 12 (The Triwizard Tournament)




It’s unclear what exactly their methods in figuring out who was worthy to join their house - but from what the Sorting Hat sings, they did the choosing, through whatever methods, themselves. It’s possible that it was a less “in-depth” Sorting than that of the Sorting Hat. From what the Hat says in his song, it may have even been as simple as the Founders just picking their favorites by choosing which students seem to be most aligned with their preferences. However, it’s not known.






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When they were still alive, they each chose their house members.



When the Founders were still alive, they had all chosen the students who’d be in their house themselves - the Sorting Hat was created to keep their houses’ values intact when they were dead and couldn’t choose, but when they were alive they’d chosen their own favorites for their houses.




“While still alive they did divide

Their favourites from the throng,


Yet how to pick the worthy ones

When they were dead and gone?”

- Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire, Chapter 12 (The Triwizard Tournament)




However they chose the students for their houses, they would have chosen them themselves. The reason Hogwarts had houses was so each Founder could teach the students they’d prefer.




“Now each of these four founders

Formed their own house, for each

Did value different virtues

In the ones they had to teach.

By Gryffindor, the bravest were

Prized far beyond the rest;

For Ravenclaw, the cleverest

Would always be the best;

For Hufflepuff, hard workers were

Most worthy of admission;

And power-hungry Slytherin

Loved those of great ambition.”

- Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire, Chapter 12 (The Triwizard Tournament)




It’s unclear what exactly their methods in figuring out who was worthy to join their house - but from what the Sorting Hat sings, they did the choosing, through whatever methods, themselves. It’s possible that it was a less “in-depth” Sorting than that of the Sorting Hat. From what the Hat says in his song, it may have even been as simple as the Founders just picking their favorites by choosing which students seem to be most aligned with their preferences. However, it’s not known.







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  • Maybe just a show of hands. "Who wants to be in 'Brave House'? Who wants to be in 'Evil House"?
    – Valorum
    14 mins ago







  • 1




    @Valorum That’s possible too! :) The Sorting Hat chooses students by their values, so the Founders could have asked the students directly. I imagine they’d have the power to reject a student they don’t want, though the students themselves could help Sort themselves.
    – Bellatrix
    5 mins ago

















  • Maybe just a show of hands. "Who wants to be in 'Brave House'? Who wants to be in 'Evil House"?
    – Valorum
    14 mins ago







  • 1




    @Valorum That’s possible too! :) The Sorting Hat chooses students by their values, so the Founders could have asked the students directly. I imagine they’d have the power to reject a student they don’t want, though the students themselves could help Sort themselves.
    – Bellatrix
    5 mins ago
















Maybe just a show of hands. "Who wants to be in 'Brave House'? Who wants to be in 'Evil House"?
– Valorum
14 mins ago





Maybe just a show of hands. "Who wants to be in 'Brave House'? Who wants to be in 'Evil House"?
– Valorum
14 mins ago





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1




@Valorum That’s possible too! :) The Sorting Hat chooses students by their values, so the Founders could have asked the students directly. I imagine they’d have the power to reject a student they don’t want, though the students themselves could help Sort themselves.
– Bellatrix
5 mins ago





@Valorum That’s possible too! :) The Sorting Hat chooses students by their values, so the Founders could have asked the students directly. I imagine they’d have the power to reject a student they don’t want, though the students themselves could help Sort themselves.
– Bellatrix
5 mins ago











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