autumn/Winter clothing for winged humanoids who try to stay out of sight

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I looked for answers, but didn't see any solid anwers for this praticular question. Unlike the other questions my winged humanoids can have their wings dissappear so they can pass for human, then have them "grow"out of their body in seconds when they wish to fly.



In summer there's not as much problems for these humanoids to extend their wings. Males can wear the right loose tank top with lots of space near the armpits and extend their wings without problems and there's plenty of backless clothing female winged humanoids could carry with the right bra choice. Outside of summer it becomes difficult as I think there's little to no clothing that can pass for normal and still allow the winged humanoid to extend it's wing and fly when in a pinch (or when it assumes it's wings and flight won't be seen by people who would be alarmed).



Assuming the humanoids have access to tailors (who know about winged humanoids) that can change regular clothings to fit their needs, how would they change their clothing so as to have the full benefit of the clothing and wings?



About the wings: The wingspan is large, let's say a single extended wing has 1,5 times the length of an extended arm (if that's too little surface area make it larger). Growing the wings back happens at a speed the humanoid determines, but at a maximum speed of 3 seconds. It'll simply grow from a tiny thing attached to the shoulderblades and eventually be attached to the shoulderblades (ignoring the massive extended chestbone you would need to flap the wings) and the spine. The humanoid has full control of the wings during growth and can try to push them through something if possible.



My only idea so far was to have 2 seams run along the back around the shoulderblades. These seams cover up a zipper opening with flaps around both sides (inside and out) of the zipper to keep the wings out and make it comfortable to wear. If they want to extend their wings, they reach around their back into the seam, open the zipper and then take off. Zippers would probably not be a great idea since they would probably chafe and damage the wings no end when growing and flying, but using buttons or similar would likely not close off the back enough to keep out rain or cold wind.










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    I looked for answers, but didn't see any solid anwers for this praticular question. Unlike the other questions my winged humanoids can have their wings dissappear so they can pass for human, then have them "grow"out of their body in seconds when they wish to fly.



    In summer there's not as much problems for these humanoids to extend their wings. Males can wear the right loose tank top with lots of space near the armpits and extend their wings without problems and there's plenty of backless clothing female winged humanoids could carry with the right bra choice. Outside of summer it becomes difficult as I think there's little to no clothing that can pass for normal and still allow the winged humanoid to extend it's wing and fly when in a pinch (or when it assumes it's wings and flight won't be seen by people who would be alarmed).



    Assuming the humanoids have access to tailors (who know about winged humanoids) that can change regular clothings to fit their needs, how would they change their clothing so as to have the full benefit of the clothing and wings?



    About the wings: The wingspan is large, let's say a single extended wing has 1,5 times the length of an extended arm (if that's too little surface area make it larger). Growing the wings back happens at a speed the humanoid determines, but at a maximum speed of 3 seconds. It'll simply grow from a tiny thing attached to the shoulderblades and eventually be attached to the shoulderblades (ignoring the massive extended chestbone you would need to flap the wings) and the spine. The humanoid has full control of the wings during growth and can try to push them through something if possible.



    My only idea so far was to have 2 seams run along the back around the shoulderblades. These seams cover up a zipper opening with flaps around both sides (inside and out) of the zipper to keep the wings out and make it comfortable to wear. If they want to extend their wings, they reach around their back into the seam, open the zipper and then take off. Zippers would probably not be a great idea since they would probably chafe and damage the wings no end when growing and flying, but using buttons or similar would likely not close off the back enough to keep out rain or cold wind.










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      I looked for answers, but didn't see any solid anwers for this praticular question. Unlike the other questions my winged humanoids can have their wings dissappear so they can pass for human, then have them "grow"out of their body in seconds when they wish to fly.



      In summer there's not as much problems for these humanoids to extend their wings. Males can wear the right loose tank top with lots of space near the armpits and extend their wings without problems and there's plenty of backless clothing female winged humanoids could carry with the right bra choice. Outside of summer it becomes difficult as I think there's little to no clothing that can pass for normal and still allow the winged humanoid to extend it's wing and fly when in a pinch (or when it assumes it's wings and flight won't be seen by people who would be alarmed).



      Assuming the humanoids have access to tailors (who know about winged humanoids) that can change regular clothings to fit their needs, how would they change their clothing so as to have the full benefit of the clothing and wings?



      About the wings: The wingspan is large, let's say a single extended wing has 1,5 times the length of an extended arm (if that's too little surface area make it larger). Growing the wings back happens at a speed the humanoid determines, but at a maximum speed of 3 seconds. It'll simply grow from a tiny thing attached to the shoulderblades and eventually be attached to the shoulderblades (ignoring the massive extended chestbone you would need to flap the wings) and the spine. The humanoid has full control of the wings during growth and can try to push them through something if possible.



      My only idea so far was to have 2 seams run along the back around the shoulderblades. These seams cover up a zipper opening with flaps around both sides (inside and out) of the zipper to keep the wings out and make it comfortable to wear. If they want to extend their wings, they reach around their back into the seam, open the zipper and then take off. Zippers would probably not be a great idea since they would probably chafe and damage the wings no end when growing and flying, but using buttons or similar would likely not close off the back enough to keep out rain or cold wind.










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      I looked for answers, but didn't see any solid anwers for this praticular question. Unlike the other questions my winged humanoids can have their wings dissappear so they can pass for human, then have them "grow"out of their body in seconds when they wish to fly.



      In summer there's not as much problems for these humanoids to extend their wings. Males can wear the right loose tank top with lots of space near the armpits and extend their wings without problems and there's plenty of backless clothing female winged humanoids could carry with the right bra choice. Outside of summer it becomes difficult as I think there's little to no clothing that can pass for normal and still allow the winged humanoid to extend it's wing and fly when in a pinch (or when it assumes it's wings and flight won't be seen by people who would be alarmed).



      Assuming the humanoids have access to tailors (who know about winged humanoids) that can change regular clothings to fit their needs, how would they change their clothing so as to have the full benefit of the clothing and wings?



      About the wings: The wingspan is large, let's say a single extended wing has 1,5 times the length of an extended arm (if that's too little surface area make it larger). Growing the wings back happens at a speed the humanoid determines, but at a maximum speed of 3 seconds. It'll simply grow from a tiny thing attached to the shoulderblades and eventually be attached to the shoulderblades (ignoring the massive extended chestbone you would need to flap the wings) and the spine. The humanoid has full control of the wings during growth and can try to push them through something if possible.



      My only idea so far was to have 2 seams run along the back around the shoulderblades. These seams cover up a zipper opening with flaps around both sides (inside and out) of the zipper to keep the wings out and make it comfortable to wear. If they want to extend their wings, they reach around their back into the seam, open the zipper and then take off. Zippers would probably not be a great idea since they would probably chafe and damage the wings no end when growing and flying, but using buttons or similar would likely not close off the back enough to keep out rain or cold wind.







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          The simplest would be to wear the usual backless/tank top and then put a loose coat, hoody or cardigan over it. When they need to fly they can very quickly pull off the outer layer and extend the wings.



          The problem with this is that they may get cold while flying, in order to avoid that they can wear a warm layer with the space cut out for the wings then wear a thin item over it to conceal the holes. Something that won't be seen as too strange when worn indoors would be good, to avoid needing to explain the holes when removing it!






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          • While it would work when it's dry in autumn, it would be pretty bad when it's either raining or cold even if you don't have to use your wings. Also imagine having to fly when it's freezing in nothing but a tank top, it would be compareable to getting on a racing bike in a tanktop and trying to go as fast as possible. If you don't get pneumonia you might just die from the cold. Although I hadn't considered the underclothing yet. A winter coat that you can extend the wings through is all fine and dandy but you'll be wearing something like a thick sweater underneath that would need modification.
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          • @Demigan Thermal underwear :) Flying will burn a lot of calories and hence generate a lot of heat - you're going to lose far more heat from the surface of the wings (are they feathered? That will probably help if so) than from your back as the surface area is much greater.
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          • with some holes in it at the back, that could work very well. Some ordinary clothes with hidden holes on the back so people dont think it odd that you are wearing strange clothing... If nothing better comes this is probably the answer I'll go for.
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          Drover coat.



          enter image description here



          https://www.downunderweb.com/shop-all/mens-drover-jacket-oilskin-western-duster-3-4-length-1/



          https://www.folkwear.com/products/copy-of-137-australian-drovers-coat?variant=36841680142



          These are work coats popular in the American west and especially Australia. They have a capelike piece on the back. Google them up - you can find heavier wool versions for colder weather.



          An exaggerated cape attachment could cover folded wings on the back and it would look cool.




          Serape



          Or you could just go ahead and give them capes - probably more properly "serapes" since these are substantial and practical garments, not superhero regalia. I see people in cape looking wearable blanket things all the time, including across from me at breakfast this morning. Clint is looking pretty good in his serape from The Good the Bad and the Ugly. The runway model looks even better although not that warm.



          clint and model;
          https://www.halloweenforum.com/halloween-costume-ideas/78725-eastwoods-blondie-good-bad-ugly.html



          https://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/07/fashion/07DRESS.html






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            The simplest would be to wear the usual backless/tank top and then put a loose coat, hoody or cardigan over it. When they need to fly they can very quickly pull off the outer layer and extend the wings.



            The problem with this is that they may get cold while flying, in order to avoid that they can wear a warm layer with the space cut out for the wings then wear a thin item over it to conceal the holes. Something that won't be seen as too strange when worn indoors would be good, to avoid needing to explain the holes when removing it!






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            • While it would work when it's dry in autumn, it would be pretty bad when it's either raining or cold even if you don't have to use your wings. Also imagine having to fly when it's freezing in nothing but a tank top, it would be compareable to getting on a racing bike in a tanktop and trying to go as fast as possible. If you don't get pneumonia you might just die from the cold. Although I hadn't considered the underclothing yet. A winter coat that you can extend the wings through is all fine and dandy but you'll be wearing something like a thick sweater underneath that would need modification.
              – Demigan
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            • @Demigan Thermal underwear :) Flying will burn a lot of calories and hence generate a lot of heat - you're going to lose far more heat from the surface of the wings (are they feathered? That will probably help if so) than from your back as the surface area is much greater.
              – Tim B♦
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            • with some holes in it at the back, that could work very well. Some ordinary clothes with hidden holes on the back so people dont think it odd that you are wearing strange clothing... If nothing better comes this is probably the answer I'll go for.
              – Demigan
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            The simplest would be to wear the usual backless/tank top and then put a loose coat, hoody or cardigan over it. When they need to fly they can very quickly pull off the outer layer and extend the wings.



            The problem with this is that they may get cold while flying, in order to avoid that they can wear a warm layer with the space cut out for the wings then wear a thin item over it to conceal the holes. Something that won't be seen as too strange when worn indoors would be good, to avoid needing to explain the holes when removing it!






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            • While it would work when it's dry in autumn, it would be pretty bad when it's either raining or cold even if you don't have to use your wings. Also imagine having to fly when it's freezing in nothing but a tank top, it would be compareable to getting on a racing bike in a tanktop and trying to go as fast as possible. If you don't get pneumonia you might just die from the cold. Although I hadn't considered the underclothing yet. A winter coat that you can extend the wings through is all fine and dandy but you'll be wearing something like a thick sweater underneath that would need modification.
              – Demigan
              3 hours ago










            • @Demigan Thermal underwear :) Flying will burn a lot of calories and hence generate a lot of heat - you're going to lose far more heat from the surface of the wings (are they feathered? That will probably help if so) than from your back as the surface area is much greater.
              – Tim B♦
              2 hours ago










            • with some holes in it at the back, that could work very well. Some ordinary clothes with hidden holes on the back so people dont think it odd that you are wearing strange clothing... If nothing better comes this is probably the answer I'll go for.
              – Demigan
              1 hour ago












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            The simplest would be to wear the usual backless/tank top and then put a loose coat, hoody or cardigan over it. When they need to fly they can very quickly pull off the outer layer and extend the wings.



            The problem with this is that they may get cold while flying, in order to avoid that they can wear a warm layer with the space cut out for the wings then wear a thin item over it to conceal the holes. Something that won't be seen as too strange when worn indoors would be good, to avoid needing to explain the holes when removing it!






            share|improve this answer












            The simplest would be to wear the usual backless/tank top and then put a loose coat, hoody or cardigan over it. When they need to fly they can very quickly pull off the outer layer and extend the wings.



            The problem with this is that they may get cold while flying, in order to avoid that they can wear a warm layer with the space cut out for the wings then wear a thin item over it to conceal the holes. Something that won't be seen as too strange when worn indoors would be good, to avoid needing to explain the holes when removing it!







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            • While it would work when it's dry in autumn, it would be pretty bad when it's either raining or cold even if you don't have to use your wings. Also imagine having to fly when it's freezing in nothing but a tank top, it would be compareable to getting on a racing bike in a tanktop and trying to go as fast as possible. If you don't get pneumonia you might just die from the cold. Although I hadn't considered the underclothing yet. A winter coat that you can extend the wings through is all fine and dandy but you'll be wearing something like a thick sweater underneath that would need modification.
              – Demigan
              3 hours ago










            • @Demigan Thermal underwear :) Flying will burn a lot of calories and hence generate a lot of heat - you're going to lose far more heat from the surface of the wings (are they feathered? That will probably help if so) than from your back as the surface area is much greater.
              – Tim B♦
              2 hours ago










            • with some holes in it at the back, that could work very well. Some ordinary clothes with hidden holes on the back so people dont think it odd that you are wearing strange clothing... If nothing better comes this is probably the answer I'll go for.
              – Demigan
              1 hour ago
















            • While it would work when it's dry in autumn, it would be pretty bad when it's either raining or cold even if you don't have to use your wings. Also imagine having to fly when it's freezing in nothing but a tank top, it would be compareable to getting on a racing bike in a tanktop and trying to go as fast as possible. If you don't get pneumonia you might just die from the cold. Although I hadn't considered the underclothing yet. A winter coat that you can extend the wings through is all fine and dandy but you'll be wearing something like a thick sweater underneath that would need modification.
              – Demigan
              3 hours ago










            • @Demigan Thermal underwear :) Flying will burn a lot of calories and hence generate a lot of heat - you're going to lose far more heat from the surface of the wings (are they feathered? That will probably help if so) than from your back as the surface area is much greater.
              – Tim B♦
              2 hours ago










            • with some holes in it at the back, that could work very well. Some ordinary clothes with hidden holes on the back so people dont think it odd that you are wearing strange clothing... If nothing better comes this is probably the answer I'll go for.
              – Demigan
              1 hour ago















            While it would work when it's dry in autumn, it would be pretty bad when it's either raining or cold even if you don't have to use your wings. Also imagine having to fly when it's freezing in nothing but a tank top, it would be compareable to getting on a racing bike in a tanktop and trying to go as fast as possible. If you don't get pneumonia you might just die from the cold. Although I hadn't considered the underclothing yet. A winter coat that you can extend the wings through is all fine and dandy but you'll be wearing something like a thick sweater underneath that would need modification.
            – Demigan
            3 hours ago




            While it would work when it's dry in autumn, it would be pretty bad when it's either raining or cold even if you don't have to use your wings. Also imagine having to fly when it's freezing in nothing but a tank top, it would be compareable to getting on a racing bike in a tanktop and trying to go as fast as possible. If you don't get pneumonia you might just die from the cold. Although I hadn't considered the underclothing yet. A winter coat that you can extend the wings through is all fine and dandy but you'll be wearing something like a thick sweater underneath that would need modification.
            – Demigan
            3 hours ago












            @Demigan Thermal underwear :) Flying will burn a lot of calories and hence generate a lot of heat - you're going to lose far more heat from the surface of the wings (are they feathered? That will probably help if so) than from your back as the surface area is much greater.
            – Tim B♦
            2 hours ago




            @Demigan Thermal underwear :) Flying will burn a lot of calories and hence generate a lot of heat - you're going to lose far more heat from the surface of the wings (are they feathered? That will probably help if so) than from your back as the surface area is much greater.
            – Tim B♦
            2 hours ago












            with some holes in it at the back, that could work very well. Some ordinary clothes with hidden holes on the back so people dont think it odd that you are wearing strange clothing... If nothing better comes this is probably the answer I'll go for.
            – Demigan
            1 hour ago




            with some holes in it at the back, that could work very well. Some ordinary clothes with hidden holes on the back so people dont think it odd that you are wearing strange clothing... If nothing better comes this is probably the answer I'll go for.
            – Demigan
            1 hour ago










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            Drover coat.



            enter image description here



            https://www.downunderweb.com/shop-all/mens-drover-jacket-oilskin-western-duster-3-4-length-1/



            https://www.folkwear.com/products/copy-of-137-australian-drovers-coat?variant=36841680142



            These are work coats popular in the American west and especially Australia. They have a capelike piece on the back. Google them up - you can find heavier wool versions for colder weather.



            An exaggerated cape attachment could cover folded wings on the back and it would look cool.




            Serape



            Or you could just go ahead and give them capes - probably more properly "serapes" since these are substantial and practical garments, not superhero regalia. I see people in cape looking wearable blanket things all the time, including across from me at breakfast this morning. Clint is looking pretty good in his serape from The Good the Bad and the Ugly. The runway model looks even better although not that warm.



            clint and model;
            https://www.halloweenforum.com/halloween-costume-ideas/78725-eastwoods-blondie-good-bad-ugly.html



            https://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/07/fashion/07DRESS.html






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              Drover coat.



              enter image description here



              https://www.downunderweb.com/shop-all/mens-drover-jacket-oilskin-western-duster-3-4-length-1/



              https://www.folkwear.com/products/copy-of-137-australian-drovers-coat?variant=36841680142



              These are work coats popular in the American west and especially Australia. They have a capelike piece on the back. Google them up - you can find heavier wool versions for colder weather.



              An exaggerated cape attachment could cover folded wings on the back and it would look cool.




              Serape



              Or you could just go ahead and give them capes - probably more properly "serapes" since these are substantial and practical garments, not superhero regalia. I see people in cape looking wearable blanket things all the time, including across from me at breakfast this morning. Clint is looking pretty good in his serape from The Good the Bad and the Ugly. The runway model looks even better although not that warm.



              clint and model;
              https://www.halloweenforum.com/halloween-costume-ideas/78725-eastwoods-blondie-good-bad-ugly.html



              https://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/07/fashion/07DRESS.html






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                Drover coat.



                enter image description here



                https://www.downunderweb.com/shop-all/mens-drover-jacket-oilskin-western-duster-3-4-length-1/



                https://www.folkwear.com/products/copy-of-137-australian-drovers-coat?variant=36841680142



                These are work coats popular in the American west and especially Australia. They have a capelike piece on the back. Google them up - you can find heavier wool versions for colder weather.



                An exaggerated cape attachment could cover folded wings on the back and it would look cool.




                Serape



                Or you could just go ahead and give them capes - probably more properly "serapes" since these are substantial and practical garments, not superhero regalia. I see people in cape looking wearable blanket things all the time, including across from me at breakfast this morning. Clint is looking pretty good in his serape from The Good the Bad and the Ugly. The runway model looks even better although not that warm.



                clint and model;
                https://www.halloweenforum.com/halloween-costume-ideas/78725-eastwoods-blondie-good-bad-ugly.html



                https://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/07/fashion/07DRESS.html






                share|improve this answer














                Drover coat.



                enter image description here



                https://www.downunderweb.com/shop-all/mens-drover-jacket-oilskin-western-duster-3-4-length-1/



                https://www.folkwear.com/products/copy-of-137-australian-drovers-coat?variant=36841680142



                These are work coats popular in the American west and especially Australia. They have a capelike piece on the back. Google them up - you can find heavier wool versions for colder weather.



                An exaggerated cape attachment could cover folded wings on the back and it would look cool.




                Serape



                Or you could just go ahead and give them capes - probably more properly "serapes" since these are substantial and practical garments, not superhero regalia. I see people in cape looking wearable blanket things all the time, including across from me at breakfast this morning. Clint is looking pretty good in his serape from The Good the Bad and the Ugly. The runway model looks even better although not that warm.



                clint and model;
                https://www.halloweenforum.com/halloween-costume-ideas/78725-eastwoods-blondie-good-bad-ugly.html



                https://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/07/fashion/07DRESS.html







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