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The Orthodox Christians consider Catholics heretics. But what is the opposite case?
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We prefer questions which show you have done some preliminary research. A reliable source verifying that the Orthodox do in fact consider Catholics to be heretics would greatly improve the question. Also consider the fact that the term Orthodox may refer to several distinct groups which are not in communion.
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The Orthodox Christians consider Catholics heretics. But what is the opposite case?
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We prefer questions which show you have done some preliminary research. A reliable source verifying that the Orthodox do in fact consider Catholics to be heretics would greatly improve the question. Also consider the fact that the term Orthodox may refer to several distinct groups which are not in communion.
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We prefer questions which show you have done some preliminary research. A reliable source verifying that the Orthodox do in fact consider Catholics to be heretics would greatly improve the question. Also consider the fact that the term Orthodox may refer to several distinct groups which are not in communion.
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We prefer questions which show you have done some preliminary research. A reliable source verifying that the Orthodox do in fact consider Catholics to be heretics would greatly improve the question. Also consider the fact that the term Orthodox may refer to several distinct groups which are not in communion.
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We prefer questions which show you have done some preliminary research. A reliable source verifying that the Orthodox do in fact consider Catholics to be heretics would greatly improve the question. Also consider the fact that the term Orthodox may refer to several distinct groups which are not in communion.
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No. Perhaps the best statement of the current Roman Catholic position on the schism can be found in Unitatis Redintegratio from Vatican II. Essentially, the Roman Catholic Church holds that the doctrinal issues that exist are minor if not meaningless, and often result as different ways of expressing or experiencing the same understanding of God rather than from a fundamentally different understanding of God in the first place; from the Catholic perspective, the split is primarily over matters of church organization and not theology.
For an example, consider the filioque: from the Catholic perspective, the difference between the single and double procession is a matter of choice of emphasis rather than of basically different belief. Tellingly, the Roman church does not require Eastern-Rite Catholic churches to use it.
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Don't they deny the dogma of the faith of pope's supremacy among bishops, or infallibility? Original sin? The immaculate conception? Among other dogmas? That's the definition of heretic. The first heresy mentioned also makes them schismatics.
– Sola Gratia
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In the Catholic view, with the exception of papal supremacy (the rejection of which is explicitly defined in canon law as schism and not heresy, so no issue there) the Orthodox don't actually reject them. Again, the Eastern Catholic example is instructive: Greek-rite Catholics are able to maintain basically Orthodox formulations of positions on these very questions you bring up precisely because the Catholic position is that they aren't fundamentally different, but rather superficial products of divergent theological approaches (Patristic vs. Scholastic) to accessing the same truth.
– Kurt Weber
2 hours ago
You might disagree with the Catholic Church's position, you may think that these are pretty substantial differences--on many of these points I happen to think so as well. And, of course, the Orthodox tend to think they're pretty significant differences too. But the answer to the question hinges on what the Roman Catholic Church thinks, not on whether that thinking is right or wrong.
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No. Perhaps the best statement of the current Roman Catholic position on the schism can be found in Unitatis Redintegratio from Vatican II. Essentially, the Roman Catholic Church holds that the doctrinal issues that exist are minor if not meaningless, and often result as different ways of expressing or experiencing the same understanding of God rather than from a fundamentally different understanding of God in the first place; from the Catholic perspective, the split is primarily over matters of church organization and not theology.
For an example, consider the filioque: from the Catholic perspective, the difference between the single and double procession is a matter of choice of emphasis rather than of basically different belief. Tellingly, the Roman church does not require Eastern-Rite Catholic churches to use it.
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Don't they deny the dogma of the faith of pope's supremacy among bishops, or infallibility? Original sin? The immaculate conception? Among other dogmas? That's the definition of heretic. The first heresy mentioned also makes them schismatics.
– Sola Gratia
2 hours ago
In the Catholic view, with the exception of papal supremacy (the rejection of which is explicitly defined in canon law as schism and not heresy, so no issue there) the Orthodox don't actually reject them. Again, the Eastern Catholic example is instructive: Greek-rite Catholics are able to maintain basically Orthodox formulations of positions on these very questions you bring up precisely because the Catholic position is that they aren't fundamentally different, but rather superficial products of divergent theological approaches (Patristic vs. Scholastic) to accessing the same truth.
– Kurt Weber
2 hours ago
You might disagree with the Catholic Church's position, you may think that these are pretty substantial differences--on many of these points I happen to think so as well. And, of course, the Orthodox tend to think they're pretty significant differences too. But the answer to the question hinges on what the Roman Catholic Church thinks, not on whether that thinking is right or wrong.
– Kurt Weber
2 hours ago
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No. Perhaps the best statement of the current Roman Catholic position on the schism can be found in Unitatis Redintegratio from Vatican II. Essentially, the Roman Catholic Church holds that the doctrinal issues that exist are minor if not meaningless, and often result as different ways of expressing or experiencing the same understanding of God rather than from a fundamentally different understanding of God in the first place; from the Catholic perspective, the split is primarily over matters of church organization and not theology.
For an example, consider the filioque: from the Catholic perspective, the difference between the single and double procession is a matter of choice of emphasis rather than of basically different belief. Tellingly, the Roman church does not require Eastern-Rite Catholic churches to use it.
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Don't they deny the dogma of the faith of pope's supremacy among bishops, or infallibility? Original sin? The immaculate conception? Among other dogmas? That's the definition of heretic. The first heresy mentioned also makes them schismatics.
– Sola Gratia
2 hours ago
In the Catholic view, with the exception of papal supremacy (the rejection of which is explicitly defined in canon law as schism and not heresy, so no issue there) the Orthodox don't actually reject them. Again, the Eastern Catholic example is instructive: Greek-rite Catholics are able to maintain basically Orthodox formulations of positions on these very questions you bring up precisely because the Catholic position is that they aren't fundamentally different, but rather superficial products of divergent theological approaches (Patristic vs. Scholastic) to accessing the same truth.
– Kurt Weber
2 hours ago
You might disagree with the Catholic Church's position, you may think that these are pretty substantial differences--on many of these points I happen to think so as well. And, of course, the Orthodox tend to think they're pretty significant differences too. But the answer to the question hinges on what the Roman Catholic Church thinks, not on whether that thinking is right or wrong.
– Kurt Weber
2 hours ago
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No. Perhaps the best statement of the current Roman Catholic position on the schism can be found in Unitatis Redintegratio from Vatican II. Essentially, the Roman Catholic Church holds that the doctrinal issues that exist are minor if not meaningless, and often result as different ways of expressing or experiencing the same understanding of God rather than from a fundamentally different understanding of God in the first place; from the Catholic perspective, the split is primarily over matters of church organization and not theology.
For an example, consider the filioque: from the Catholic perspective, the difference between the single and double procession is a matter of choice of emphasis rather than of basically different belief. Tellingly, the Roman church does not require Eastern-Rite Catholic churches to use it.
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Ken Graham
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Kurt Weber
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No. Perhaps the best statement of the current Roman Catholic position on the schism can be found in Unitatis Redintegratio from Vatican II. Essentially, the Roman Catholic Church holds that the doctrinal issues that exist are minor if not meaningless, and often result as different ways of expressing or experiencing the same understanding of God rather than from a fundamentally different understanding of God in the first place; from the Catholic perspective, the split is primarily over matters of church organization and not theology.
For an example, consider the filioque: from the Catholic perspective, the difference between the single and double procession is a matter of choice of emphasis rather than of basically different belief. Tellingly, the Roman church does not require Eastern-Rite Catholic churches to use it.
edited 1 hour ago
Ken Graham
12.7k31455
answered 3 hours ago
Kurt Weber
313
edited 1 hour ago
Ken Graham
12.7k31455
edited 1 hour ago
Ken Graham
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edited 1 hour ago
Ken Graham
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12.7k31455
answered 3 hours ago
Kurt Weber
313
answered 3 hours ago
Kurt Weber
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answered 3 hours ago
Kurt Weber
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Don't they deny the dogma of the faith of pope's supremacy among bishops, or infallibility? Original sin? The immaculate conception? Among other dogmas? That's the definition of heretic. The first heresy mentioned also makes them schismatics.
– Sola Gratia
2 hours ago
In the Catholic view, with the exception of papal supremacy (the rejection of which is explicitly defined in canon law as schism and not heresy, so no issue there) the Orthodox don't actually reject them. Again, the Eastern Catholic example is instructive: Greek-rite Catholics are able to maintain basically Orthodox formulations of positions on these very questions you bring up precisely because the Catholic position is that they aren't fundamentally different, but rather superficial products of divergent theological approaches (Patristic vs. Scholastic) to accessing the same truth.
– Kurt Weber
2 hours ago
You might disagree with the Catholic Church's position, you may think that these are pretty substantial differences--on many of these points I happen to think so as well. And, of course, the Orthodox tend to think they're pretty significant differences too. But the answer to the question hinges on what the Roman Catholic Church thinks, not on whether that thinking is right or wrong.
– Kurt Weber
2 hours ago
add a comment |Â
Don't they deny the dogma of the faith of pope's supremacy among bishops, or infallibility? Original sin? The immaculate conception? Among other dogmas? That's the definition of heretic. The first heresy mentioned also makes them schismatics.
– Sola Gratia
2 hours ago
In the Catholic view, with the exception of papal supremacy (the rejection of which is explicitly defined in canon law as schism and not heresy, so no issue there) the Orthodox don't actually reject them. Again, the Eastern Catholic example is instructive: Greek-rite Catholics are able to maintain basically Orthodox formulations of positions on these very questions you bring up precisely because the Catholic position is that they aren't fundamentally different, but rather superficial products of divergent theological approaches (Patristic vs. Scholastic) to accessing the same truth.
– Kurt Weber
2 hours ago
You might disagree with the Catholic Church's position, you may think that these are pretty substantial differences--on many of these points I happen to think so as well. And, of course, the Orthodox tend to think they're pretty significant differences too. But the answer to the question hinges on what the Roman Catholic Church thinks, not on whether that thinking is right or wrong.
– Kurt Weber
2 hours ago
Don't they deny the dogma of the faith of pope's supremacy among bishops, or infallibility? Original sin? The immaculate conception? Among other dogmas? That's the definition of heretic. The first heresy mentioned also makes them schismatics.
– Sola Gratia
2 hours ago
Don't they deny the dogma of the faith of pope's supremacy among bishops, or infallibility? Original sin? The immaculate conception? Among other dogmas? That's the definition of heretic. The first heresy mentioned also makes them schismatics.
– Sola Gratia
2 hours ago
In the Catholic view, with the exception of papal supremacy (the rejection of which is explicitly defined in canon law as schism and not heresy, so no issue there) the Orthodox don't actually reject them. Again, the Eastern Catholic example is instructive: Greek-rite Catholics are able to maintain basically Orthodox formulations of positions on these very questions you bring up precisely because the Catholic position is that they aren't fundamentally different, but rather superficial products of divergent theological approaches (Patristic vs. Scholastic) to accessing the same truth.
– Kurt Weber
2 hours ago
In the Catholic view, with the exception of papal supremacy (the rejection of which is explicitly defined in canon law as schism and not heresy, so no issue there) the Orthodox don't actually reject them. Again, the Eastern Catholic example is instructive: Greek-rite Catholics are able to maintain basically Orthodox formulations of positions on these very questions you bring up precisely because the Catholic position is that they aren't fundamentally different, but rather superficial products of divergent theological approaches (Patristic vs. Scholastic) to accessing the same truth.
– Kurt Weber
2 hours ago
You might disagree with the Catholic Church's position, you may think that these are pretty substantial differences--on many of these points I happen to think so as well. And, of course, the Orthodox tend to think they're pretty significant differences too. But the answer to the question hinges on what the Roman Catholic Church thinks, not on whether that thinking is right or wrong.
– Kurt Weber
2 hours ago
You might disagree with the Catholic Church's position, you may think that these are pretty substantial differences--on many of these points I happen to think so as well. And, of course, the Orthodox tend to think they're pretty significant differences too. But the answer to the question hinges on what the Roman Catholic Church thinks, not on whether that thinking is right or wrong.
– Kurt Weber
2 hours ago
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We prefer questions which show you have done some preliminary research. A reliable source verifying that the Orthodox do in fact consider Catholics to be heretics would greatly improve the question. Also consider the fact that the term Orthodox may refer to several distinct groups which are not in communion.
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