How to write a convincing character with a opinion that differs from the author's?
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So i wrote a short text recently in which the character has a very strong political opinion (anti-LGBTQ), which in addition is totally different to my own opinion. Now, I wanted to make the character as realistic as possible and used real arguments, people with this opinion use. Other participants said that they were not sure if I myself as the author are the same opinion and yeah, that would be a problem if someone thinks I'm some anti-LGBTQ after reading that text.
So how can I write a character whose opinions differ from mine but without making the character unrealistic. The stories are from 1st person view so that makes it a little bit more difficult as:
I just can't make the person change their mind
I can't change the point of view either
Making a statement at the end would somehow ruin the whole feeling
Making unrealistic arguments would be unrealistic
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So i wrote a short text recently in which the character has a very strong political opinion (anti-LGBTQ), which in addition is totally different to my own opinion. Now, I wanted to make the character as realistic as possible and used real arguments, people with this opinion use. Other participants said that they were not sure if I myself as the author are the same opinion and yeah, that would be a problem if someone thinks I'm some anti-LGBTQ after reading that text.
So how can I write a character whose opinions differ from mine but without making the character unrealistic. The stories are from 1st person view so that makes it a little bit more difficult as:
I just can't make the person change their mind
I can't change the point of view either
Making a statement at the end would somehow ruin the whole feeling
Making unrealistic arguments would be unrealistic
characters character-development pov
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So i wrote a short text recently in which the character has a very strong political opinion (anti-LGBTQ), which in addition is totally different to my own opinion. Now, I wanted to make the character as realistic as possible and used real arguments, people with this opinion use. Other participants said that they were not sure if I myself as the author are the same opinion and yeah, that would be a problem if someone thinks I'm some anti-LGBTQ after reading that text.
So how can I write a character whose opinions differ from mine but without making the character unrealistic. The stories are from 1st person view so that makes it a little bit more difficult as:
I just can't make the person change their mind
I can't change the point of view either
Making a statement at the end would somehow ruin the whole feeling
Making unrealistic arguments would be unrealistic
characters character-development pov
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So i wrote a short text recently in which the character has a very strong political opinion (anti-LGBTQ), which in addition is totally different to my own opinion. Now, I wanted to make the character as realistic as possible and used real arguments, people with this opinion use. Other participants said that they were not sure if I myself as the author are the same opinion and yeah, that would be a problem if someone thinks I'm some anti-LGBTQ after reading that text.
So how can I write a character whose opinions differ from mine but without making the character unrealistic. The stories are from 1st person view so that makes it a little bit more difficult as:
I just can't make the person change their mind
I can't change the point of view either
Making a statement at the end would somehow ruin the whole feeling
Making unrealistic arguments would be unrealistic
characters character-development pov
characters character-development pov
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I personally don't think Digital Dracula's answer is useful. You want to write a convincing bigot, which is fair. Think about why bigots are the way they are, their motives.
Sometimes, they have a strongly held religious beliefs that prevents them from being tolerant. They may have no problem with individual gays but instead 'hate the sin'.
Others are bigoted towards people/groups associated with 'change'. Racism in Harlem spiked when the neighbourhood started transitioning from largely white to largely black, and people were afraid of this change. 'Nothing's like how it used to be', 'what was wrong with things as they were', and other sentiments along those lines were likely the thought patterns, until eventually it translated to 'blacks are destroying our way of life'.
We can all relate to having a set of principles we refuse to stray from even in the face of logic, or longing for a simpler time when you felt safe. Draw from the innate humanity of these otherwise inhumane views, and there you'll find your answer.
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Hi and welcome to Writing Stack.
Short reply:
Don't bother adapting your writing based on other people's stupidity.
Longer reply:
Basically, don't bother adapting your writing, period. I don't believe in trying to please audiences, for whatever reason, but this is especially the case if someone is that stupid to be unable to tell apart a fictional character from the author. I might sound harsh, but I've seen this so many times that I no longer see the absurd side of it, only the frustrating one.
The fact that we live in a world plagued by homophobes, neonazis, and fanatics of all sorts is precisely the reason we need stories like the one you're writing. So, kudos to you for taking on the topic, and kudos for trying to be accurate on your portrayal. The rest is no problem of yours.
Two further points, related to the issue:
- Trying to please everyone and you're guaranteed to please no one.
The lady doth protest too much, methinks. Audiences who read too much into something are usually projecting their own thoughts, fears, or latent tendencies on something. More details.
EDIT:
Inspired by Matthew's reply (which commented on mine), I want to make a clarification:
My answer is 100% focused on writing advice. Any side comments I made regarding stupidity and inane readers are, indeed, parenthetical, but my main argument (which I am now emphasizing) is this:
There is inherent danger in trying to adapt your writing to an audience, and this is especially the case when you're trying to please a part of your audience.
Deep down Seraphina didn't indicate she is unhappy with her text, only with the reaction of some people. Any attempt to rectify a text that the author is (at least I assumed) satisfied with, is doomed to fail. It is one thing to reconsider a text based on textual recommendations (and preferably by a professional editor or at least an experienced reader), and entirely an other to reconsider changing a text the author is happy with, based merely on someone's non-text-based opinion.
I get what you're saying, you should never aim to people-please, but whenever you can, you should strive to avoid writing strawmen. What's more compelling; a villain who twirls his moustache and says 'I just love being evil!' or the one who has a plausible reason/motive for their actions?
– Matthew Dave
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If the readers think the opinion of your protagonist is your own opinion, then I'd guess the problem is not that the protagonist has that opinion, but that the protagonist's opinion is not or not sufficiently challenged in the story. That is, the book actually seems to promote that protagonist's position, which an author of different opinion usually won't want to do.
Now it might be that the other participants only read a small excerpt of your story, then it probably doesn't matter much; anyone reading the full story will hopefully see that this is not your real opinion. But if after reading the whole story the impression prevails, you probably want to do something about it. Not by changing the protagonist, but by challenging the protagonist.
For example, you might explicitly show a case where the protagonist's prejudices turn out to be false, but the protagonist brushes it off as exception to the rule. If that happens a few times, then the reader will see a pattern of denial here, and thus recognize that you don't share those prejudices (or you would not have explicitly written those cases).
Or maybe someone else makes a good argument against the position, and the protagonist does not see how to refute it, but simply dismisses it as stupid argument because it doesn't fit into the protagonist's world view. This will again be a hint that you don't support the protagonist's position (or else, why would you put an argument against it without refuting it?)
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I personally don't think Digital Dracula's answer is useful. You want to write a convincing bigot, which is fair. Think about why bigots are the way they are, their motives.
Sometimes, they have a strongly held religious beliefs that prevents them from being tolerant. They may have no problem with individual gays but instead 'hate the sin'.
Others are bigoted towards people/groups associated with 'change'. Racism in Harlem spiked when the neighbourhood started transitioning from largely white to largely black, and people were afraid of this change. 'Nothing's like how it used to be', 'what was wrong with things as they were', and other sentiments along those lines were likely the thought patterns, until eventually it translated to 'blacks are destroying our way of life'.
We can all relate to having a set of principles we refuse to stray from even in the face of logic, or longing for a simpler time when you felt safe. Draw from the innate humanity of these otherwise inhumane views, and there you'll find your answer.
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I personally don't think Digital Dracula's answer is useful. You want to write a convincing bigot, which is fair. Think about why bigots are the way they are, their motives.
Sometimes, they have a strongly held religious beliefs that prevents them from being tolerant. They may have no problem with individual gays but instead 'hate the sin'.
Others are bigoted towards people/groups associated with 'change'. Racism in Harlem spiked when the neighbourhood started transitioning from largely white to largely black, and people were afraid of this change. 'Nothing's like how it used to be', 'what was wrong with things as they were', and other sentiments along those lines were likely the thought patterns, until eventually it translated to 'blacks are destroying our way of life'.
We can all relate to having a set of principles we refuse to stray from even in the face of logic, or longing for a simpler time when you felt safe. Draw from the innate humanity of these otherwise inhumane views, and there you'll find your answer.
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I personally don't think Digital Dracula's answer is useful. You want to write a convincing bigot, which is fair. Think about why bigots are the way they are, their motives.
Sometimes, they have a strongly held religious beliefs that prevents them from being tolerant. They may have no problem with individual gays but instead 'hate the sin'.
Others are bigoted towards people/groups associated with 'change'. Racism in Harlem spiked when the neighbourhood started transitioning from largely white to largely black, and people were afraid of this change. 'Nothing's like how it used to be', 'what was wrong with things as they were', and other sentiments along those lines were likely the thought patterns, until eventually it translated to 'blacks are destroying our way of life'.
We can all relate to having a set of principles we refuse to stray from even in the face of logic, or longing for a simpler time when you felt safe. Draw from the innate humanity of these otherwise inhumane views, and there you'll find your answer.
I personally don't think Digital Dracula's answer is useful. You want to write a convincing bigot, which is fair. Think about why bigots are the way they are, their motives.
Sometimes, they have a strongly held religious beliefs that prevents them from being tolerant. They may have no problem with individual gays but instead 'hate the sin'.
Others are bigoted towards people/groups associated with 'change'. Racism in Harlem spiked when the neighbourhood started transitioning from largely white to largely black, and people were afraid of this change. 'Nothing's like how it used to be', 'what was wrong with things as they were', and other sentiments along those lines were likely the thought patterns, until eventually it translated to 'blacks are destroying our way of life'.
We can all relate to having a set of principles we refuse to stray from even in the face of logic, or longing for a simpler time when you felt safe. Draw from the innate humanity of these otherwise inhumane views, and there you'll find your answer.
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Hi and welcome to Writing Stack.
Short reply:
Don't bother adapting your writing based on other people's stupidity.
Longer reply:
Basically, don't bother adapting your writing, period. I don't believe in trying to please audiences, for whatever reason, but this is especially the case if someone is that stupid to be unable to tell apart a fictional character from the author. I might sound harsh, but I've seen this so many times that I no longer see the absurd side of it, only the frustrating one.
The fact that we live in a world plagued by homophobes, neonazis, and fanatics of all sorts is precisely the reason we need stories like the one you're writing. So, kudos to you for taking on the topic, and kudos for trying to be accurate on your portrayal. The rest is no problem of yours.
Two further points, related to the issue:
- Trying to please everyone and you're guaranteed to please no one.
The lady doth protest too much, methinks. Audiences who read too much into something are usually projecting their own thoughts, fears, or latent tendencies on something. More details.
EDIT:
Inspired by Matthew's reply (which commented on mine), I want to make a clarification:
My answer is 100% focused on writing advice. Any side comments I made regarding stupidity and inane readers are, indeed, parenthetical, but my main argument (which I am now emphasizing) is this:
There is inherent danger in trying to adapt your writing to an audience, and this is especially the case when you're trying to please a part of your audience.
Deep down Seraphina didn't indicate she is unhappy with her text, only with the reaction of some people. Any attempt to rectify a text that the author is (at least I assumed) satisfied with, is doomed to fail. It is one thing to reconsider a text based on textual recommendations (and preferably by a professional editor or at least an experienced reader), and entirely an other to reconsider changing a text the author is happy with, based merely on someone's non-text-based opinion.
I get what you're saying, you should never aim to people-please, but whenever you can, you should strive to avoid writing strawmen. What's more compelling; a villain who twirls his moustache and says 'I just love being evil!' or the one who has a plausible reason/motive for their actions?
– Matthew Dave
7 mins ago
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Hi and welcome to Writing Stack.
Short reply:
Don't bother adapting your writing based on other people's stupidity.
Longer reply:
Basically, don't bother adapting your writing, period. I don't believe in trying to please audiences, for whatever reason, but this is especially the case if someone is that stupid to be unable to tell apart a fictional character from the author. I might sound harsh, but I've seen this so many times that I no longer see the absurd side of it, only the frustrating one.
The fact that we live in a world plagued by homophobes, neonazis, and fanatics of all sorts is precisely the reason we need stories like the one you're writing. So, kudos to you for taking on the topic, and kudos for trying to be accurate on your portrayal. The rest is no problem of yours.
Two further points, related to the issue:
- Trying to please everyone and you're guaranteed to please no one.
The lady doth protest too much, methinks. Audiences who read too much into something are usually projecting their own thoughts, fears, or latent tendencies on something. More details.
EDIT:
Inspired by Matthew's reply (which commented on mine), I want to make a clarification:
My answer is 100% focused on writing advice. Any side comments I made regarding stupidity and inane readers are, indeed, parenthetical, but my main argument (which I am now emphasizing) is this:
There is inherent danger in trying to adapt your writing to an audience, and this is especially the case when you're trying to please a part of your audience.
Deep down Seraphina didn't indicate she is unhappy with her text, only with the reaction of some people. Any attempt to rectify a text that the author is (at least I assumed) satisfied with, is doomed to fail. It is one thing to reconsider a text based on textual recommendations (and preferably by a professional editor or at least an experienced reader), and entirely an other to reconsider changing a text the author is happy with, based merely on someone's non-text-based opinion.
I get what you're saying, you should never aim to people-please, but whenever you can, you should strive to avoid writing strawmen. What's more compelling; a villain who twirls his moustache and says 'I just love being evil!' or the one who has a plausible reason/motive for their actions?
– Matthew Dave
7 mins ago
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Hi and welcome to Writing Stack.
Short reply:
Don't bother adapting your writing based on other people's stupidity.
Longer reply:
Basically, don't bother adapting your writing, period. I don't believe in trying to please audiences, for whatever reason, but this is especially the case if someone is that stupid to be unable to tell apart a fictional character from the author. I might sound harsh, but I've seen this so many times that I no longer see the absurd side of it, only the frustrating one.
The fact that we live in a world plagued by homophobes, neonazis, and fanatics of all sorts is precisely the reason we need stories like the one you're writing. So, kudos to you for taking on the topic, and kudos for trying to be accurate on your portrayal. The rest is no problem of yours.
Two further points, related to the issue:
- Trying to please everyone and you're guaranteed to please no one.
The lady doth protest too much, methinks. Audiences who read too much into something are usually projecting their own thoughts, fears, or latent tendencies on something. More details.
EDIT:
Inspired by Matthew's reply (which commented on mine), I want to make a clarification:
My answer is 100% focused on writing advice. Any side comments I made regarding stupidity and inane readers are, indeed, parenthetical, but my main argument (which I am now emphasizing) is this:
There is inherent danger in trying to adapt your writing to an audience, and this is especially the case when you're trying to please a part of your audience.
Deep down Seraphina didn't indicate she is unhappy with her text, only with the reaction of some people. Any attempt to rectify a text that the author is (at least I assumed) satisfied with, is doomed to fail. It is one thing to reconsider a text based on textual recommendations (and preferably by a professional editor or at least an experienced reader), and entirely an other to reconsider changing a text the author is happy with, based merely on someone's non-text-based opinion.
Hi and welcome to Writing Stack.
Short reply:
Don't bother adapting your writing based on other people's stupidity.
Longer reply:
Basically, don't bother adapting your writing, period. I don't believe in trying to please audiences, for whatever reason, but this is especially the case if someone is that stupid to be unable to tell apart a fictional character from the author. I might sound harsh, but I've seen this so many times that I no longer see the absurd side of it, only the frustrating one.
The fact that we live in a world plagued by homophobes, neonazis, and fanatics of all sorts is precisely the reason we need stories like the one you're writing. So, kudos to you for taking on the topic, and kudos for trying to be accurate on your portrayal. The rest is no problem of yours.
Two further points, related to the issue:
- Trying to please everyone and you're guaranteed to please no one.
The lady doth protest too much, methinks. Audiences who read too much into something are usually projecting their own thoughts, fears, or latent tendencies on something. More details.
EDIT:
Inspired by Matthew's reply (which commented on mine), I want to make a clarification:
My answer is 100% focused on writing advice. Any side comments I made regarding stupidity and inane readers are, indeed, parenthetical, but my main argument (which I am now emphasizing) is this:
There is inherent danger in trying to adapt your writing to an audience, and this is especially the case when you're trying to please a part of your audience.
Deep down Seraphina didn't indicate she is unhappy with her text, only with the reaction of some people. Any attempt to rectify a text that the author is (at least I assumed) satisfied with, is doomed to fail. It is one thing to reconsider a text based on textual recommendations (and preferably by a professional editor or at least an experienced reader), and entirely an other to reconsider changing a text the author is happy with, based merely on someone's non-text-based opinion.
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I get what you're saying, you should never aim to people-please, but whenever you can, you should strive to avoid writing strawmen. What's more compelling; a villain who twirls his moustache and says 'I just love being evil!' or the one who has a plausible reason/motive for their actions?
– Matthew Dave
7 mins ago
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I get what you're saying, you should never aim to people-please, but whenever you can, you should strive to avoid writing strawmen. What's more compelling; a villain who twirls his moustache and says 'I just love being evil!' or the one who has a plausible reason/motive for their actions?
– Matthew Dave
7 mins ago
I get what you're saying, you should never aim to people-please, but whenever you can, you should strive to avoid writing strawmen. What's more compelling; a villain who twirls his moustache and says 'I just love being evil!' or the one who has a plausible reason/motive for their actions?
– Matthew Dave
7 mins ago
I get what you're saying, you should never aim to people-please, but whenever you can, you should strive to avoid writing strawmen. What's more compelling; a villain who twirls his moustache and says 'I just love being evil!' or the one who has a plausible reason/motive for their actions?
– Matthew Dave
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If the readers think the opinion of your protagonist is your own opinion, then I'd guess the problem is not that the protagonist has that opinion, but that the protagonist's opinion is not or not sufficiently challenged in the story. That is, the book actually seems to promote that protagonist's position, which an author of different opinion usually won't want to do.
Now it might be that the other participants only read a small excerpt of your story, then it probably doesn't matter much; anyone reading the full story will hopefully see that this is not your real opinion. But if after reading the whole story the impression prevails, you probably want to do something about it. Not by changing the protagonist, but by challenging the protagonist.
For example, you might explicitly show a case where the protagonist's prejudices turn out to be false, but the protagonist brushes it off as exception to the rule. If that happens a few times, then the reader will see a pattern of denial here, and thus recognize that you don't share those prejudices (or you would not have explicitly written those cases).
Or maybe someone else makes a good argument against the position, and the protagonist does not see how to refute it, but simply dismisses it as stupid argument because it doesn't fit into the protagonist's world view. This will again be a hint that you don't support the protagonist's position (or else, why would you put an argument against it without refuting it?)
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If the readers think the opinion of your protagonist is your own opinion, then I'd guess the problem is not that the protagonist has that opinion, but that the protagonist's opinion is not or not sufficiently challenged in the story. That is, the book actually seems to promote that protagonist's position, which an author of different opinion usually won't want to do.
Now it might be that the other participants only read a small excerpt of your story, then it probably doesn't matter much; anyone reading the full story will hopefully see that this is not your real opinion. But if after reading the whole story the impression prevails, you probably want to do something about it. Not by changing the protagonist, but by challenging the protagonist.
For example, you might explicitly show a case where the protagonist's prejudices turn out to be false, but the protagonist brushes it off as exception to the rule. If that happens a few times, then the reader will see a pattern of denial here, and thus recognize that you don't share those prejudices (or you would not have explicitly written those cases).
Or maybe someone else makes a good argument against the position, and the protagonist does not see how to refute it, but simply dismisses it as stupid argument because it doesn't fit into the protagonist's world view. This will again be a hint that you don't support the protagonist's position (or else, why would you put an argument against it without refuting it?)
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If the readers think the opinion of your protagonist is your own opinion, then I'd guess the problem is not that the protagonist has that opinion, but that the protagonist's opinion is not or not sufficiently challenged in the story. That is, the book actually seems to promote that protagonist's position, which an author of different opinion usually won't want to do.
Now it might be that the other participants only read a small excerpt of your story, then it probably doesn't matter much; anyone reading the full story will hopefully see that this is not your real opinion. But if after reading the whole story the impression prevails, you probably want to do something about it. Not by changing the protagonist, but by challenging the protagonist.
For example, you might explicitly show a case where the protagonist's prejudices turn out to be false, but the protagonist brushes it off as exception to the rule. If that happens a few times, then the reader will see a pattern of denial here, and thus recognize that you don't share those prejudices (or you would not have explicitly written those cases).
Or maybe someone else makes a good argument against the position, and the protagonist does not see how to refute it, but simply dismisses it as stupid argument because it doesn't fit into the protagonist's world view. This will again be a hint that you don't support the protagonist's position (or else, why would you put an argument against it without refuting it?)
If the readers think the opinion of your protagonist is your own opinion, then I'd guess the problem is not that the protagonist has that opinion, but that the protagonist's opinion is not or not sufficiently challenged in the story. That is, the book actually seems to promote that protagonist's position, which an author of different opinion usually won't want to do.
Now it might be that the other participants only read a small excerpt of your story, then it probably doesn't matter much; anyone reading the full story will hopefully see that this is not your real opinion. But if after reading the whole story the impression prevails, you probably want to do something about it. Not by changing the protagonist, but by challenging the protagonist.
For example, you might explicitly show a case where the protagonist's prejudices turn out to be false, but the protagonist brushes it off as exception to the rule. If that happens a few times, then the reader will see a pattern of denial here, and thus recognize that you don't share those prejudices (or you would not have explicitly written those cases).
Or maybe someone else makes a good argument against the position, and the protagonist does not see how to refute it, but simply dismisses it as stupid argument because it doesn't fit into the protagonist's world view. This will again be a hint that you don't support the protagonist's position (or else, why would you put an argument against it without refuting it?)
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