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A while back I asked a question about whether Cain was an idol worshiper (something I long suspected), and the answer seems to indicate that he probably wasn't (notwithstanding the fact that he wasn't very righteous). The first obvious reference to a specific idol in the Tanach seems to be Laban's in Genesis 31.
Who was the first person to specifically worship an idol, or at what point in history was idol worship first established? I can see a few obvious options:
- Idol worship was established before the Flood, but this fact is not specifically mentioned in the Tanach.
- Idol worship was established after the flood, but before Babel.
- Idol worship was instituted at Babel.
- Idol worship arose after the dispersion of the nations at Babel.
I am specifically asking about situations in which someone intentionally chose to worship a being other than HaShem, not general issues of sinning, worshiping ineffectively, or otherwise violating commandments.
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A while back I asked a question about whether Cain was an idol worshiper (something I long suspected), and the answer seems to indicate that he probably wasn't (notwithstanding the fact that he wasn't very righteous). The first obvious reference to a specific idol in the Tanach seems to be Laban's in Genesis 31.
Who was the first person to specifically worship an idol, or at what point in history was idol worship first established? I can see a few obvious options:
- Idol worship was established before the Flood, but this fact is not specifically mentioned in the Tanach.
- Idol worship was established after the flood, but before Babel.
- Idol worship was instituted at Babel.
- Idol worship arose after the dispersion of the nations at Babel.
I am specifically asking about situations in which someone intentionally chose to worship a being other than HaShem, not general issues of sinning, worshiping ineffectively, or otherwise violating commandments.
avodah-zarah mabul genesis-bereishith
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Educated guess - Nimrod.
– DanF
4 hours ago
@DanF yes, I have suspected that as well, but I'm looking for some source that might establish that other than "it makes sense".
– Robert Columbia
4 hours ago
Perhaps Ramba"m. Probably near the beginning Yesodei Hatorah.
– DanF
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Your title says it all, the rest of the details are unnecessary, esp the list.
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A while back I asked a question about whether Cain was an idol worshiper (something I long suspected), and the answer seems to indicate that he probably wasn't (notwithstanding the fact that he wasn't very righteous). The first obvious reference to a specific idol in the Tanach seems to be Laban's in Genesis 31.
Who was the first person to specifically worship an idol, or at what point in history was idol worship first established? I can see a few obvious options:
- Idol worship was established before the Flood, but this fact is not specifically mentioned in the Tanach.
- Idol worship was established after the flood, but before Babel.
- Idol worship was instituted at Babel.
- Idol worship arose after the dispersion of the nations at Babel.
I am specifically asking about situations in which someone intentionally chose to worship a being other than HaShem, not general issues of sinning, worshiping ineffectively, or otherwise violating commandments.
avodah-zarah mabul genesis-bereishith
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A while back I asked a question about whether Cain was an idol worshiper (something I long suspected), and the answer seems to indicate that he probably wasn't (notwithstanding the fact that he wasn't very righteous). The first obvious reference to a specific idol in the Tanach seems to be Laban's in Genesis 31.
Who was the first person to specifically worship an idol, or at what point in history was idol worship first established? I can see a few obvious options:
- Idol worship was established before the Flood, but this fact is not specifically mentioned in the Tanach.
- Idol worship was established after the flood, but before Babel.
- Idol worship was instituted at Babel.
- Idol worship arose after the dispersion of the nations at Babel.
I am specifically asking about situations in which someone intentionally chose to worship a being other than HaShem, not general issues of sinning, worshiping ineffectively, or otherwise violating commandments.
avodah-zarah mabul genesis-bereishith
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Educated guess - Nimrod.
– DanF
4 hours ago
@DanF yes, I have suspected that as well, but I'm looking for some source that might establish that other than "it makes sense".
– Robert Columbia
4 hours ago
Perhaps Ramba"m. Probably near the beginning Yesodei Hatorah.
– DanF
3 hours ago
Your title says it all, the rest of the details are unnecessary, esp the list.
– Al Berko
2 hours ago
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Educated guess - Nimrod.
– DanF
4 hours ago
@DanF yes, I have suspected that as well, but I'm looking for some source that might establish that other than "it makes sense".
– Robert Columbia
4 hours ago
Perhaps Ramba"m. Probably near the beginning Yesodei Hatorah.
– DanF
3 hours ago
Your title says it all, the rest of the details are unnecessary, esp the list.
– Al Berko
2 hours ago
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Educated guess - Nimrod.
– DanF
4 hours ago
Educated guess - Nimrod.
– DanF
4 hours ago
@DanF yes, I have suspected that as well, but I'm looking for some source that might establish that other than "it makes sense".
– Robert Columbia
4 hours ago
@DanF yes, I have suspected that as well, but I'm looking for some source that might establish that other than "it makes sense".
– Robert Columbia
4 hours ago
Perhaps Ramba"m. Probably near the beginning Yesodei Hatorah.
– DanF
3 hours ago
Perhaps Ramba"m. Probably near the beginning Yesodei Hatorah.
– DanF
3 hours ago
Your title says it all, the rest of the details are unnecessary, esp the list.
– Al Berko
2 hours ago
Your title says it all, the rest of the details are unnecessary, esp the list.
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2 hours ago
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Rambam discusses the beginnings of idolatry in Hilchot Avodat Kochavim 1:1-2
בימי ×Âנוש טעו בני ה×Âדנטעות גדול ונבערה עצת חכמי ×Âותו הדור ו×Âנוש עצמו
מן הטועינהיה וזו היתה טעותנ×Âמרו הו×Âיל וה×Âלהינברנכוכבינ×Âלו וגלגלי×Â
להנהיג ×Âת העולנונתננבמרונוחלק להנכבוד והנשמשינהמשמשינלפניו
ר×Âויין הנלשבחנולפ×Âרנולחלוק להנכבוד וזהו רצון ה×Âל ברוך הונלגדל
ולכבד מי שגדלו וכבדו כמו שהמלך רוצה לכבד העומדינלפניו וזהו כבודו של
מלך כיון שעלה דבר זה על לבנהתחילו לבנות לכוכבינהיכלות ולהקריב להן
קרבנות ולשבחנולפ×Âרנבדברינולהשתחוות למולנכדי להשיג רצון הבורנבדעת×Â
הרעה וזה היה עיקר עבודת כוכבינוכך היו ×Âומרינעובדיה היודעינעיקרה ל×Â
שהן ×Âומרינש×Âין שנ×Âלוה ×Âלנכוכב זה הונשירמיהו ×Âומר מי לנייר×Âך מלך
הגוינכי לך י×Âתה כי בכל חכמי הגוינובכל מלכותנמ×Âין כמוך וב×Âחת יבערו
ויכסלו מוסר הבלינעץ הונכלומר הכל יודעינש×Âתה הונלבדך ×Âבל טעות×Â
וכסילותנשמדמינשזה ההבל רצונך הו×Â
During the times of Enosh, mankind made a great mistake, and the wise
men of that generation gave thoughtless counsel. Enosh himself was one
of those who erred.
Their mistake was as follows: They said God created stars and spheres
with which to control the world. He placed them on high and treated
them with honor, making them servants who minister before Him.
Accordingly, it is fitting to praise and glorify them and to treat
them with honor. [They perceived] this to be the will of God, blessed
be He, that they magnify and honor those whom He magnified and
honored, just as a king desires that the servants who stand before him
be honored. Indeed, doing so is an expression of honor to the king.
After conceiving of this notion, they began to construct temples to
the stars and offer sacrifices to them. They would praise and glorify
them with words, and prostrate themselves before them, because by
doing so, they would - according to their false conception - be
fulfilling the will of God.
This was the essence of the worship of false gods, and this was the
rationale of those who worshiped them. They would not say that there
is no other god except for this star.
This message was conveyed by Jeremiah, who declared (10:7-8): "Who
will not fear You, King of the nations, for to You it is fitting.
Among all the wise men of the nations and in all their kingdoms, there
is none like You. They have one foolish and senseless [notion. They
conceive of their] empty teachings as wood;" i.e., all know that You
alone are God. Their foolish error consists of conceiving of this
emptiness as Your will.
ו×Âחר ש×Âרכו הימינעמדו בבני ה×Âדננבי×Âי שקר ו×Âמרו שה×Âל צוה ו×Âמר להנעבדו
כוכב פלוני ×Âו כל הכוכבינוהקריבו לו ונסכו לו כך וכך ובנו לו היכל ועשו
צורתו כדי להשתחוות לו כל הענהנשינוהקטנינוש×Âר עמי ה×Âרץ ומודיע לה×Â
צורה שבדה מלבו ו×Âומר זו הינצורת הכוכב פלוני שהודיעוהו בנבו×Âתו והתחילו
על דרך זו לעשות צורות בהיכלות ותחת ה×Âילנות ובר×Âשי ההרינועל הגבעות
ומתקבצין ומשתחוינלהנו×Âומרינלכל הענשזו הצורה מטיבה ומריעה ור×Âוי
לעובדה וליר×Âה ממנה וכהניהנ×Âומרינלהנשבעבודה זו תרבו ותצליחו ועשו כך
כך ו×Âל תעשו כך וכך והתחילו כוזבינ×Âחרינלעמוד ולומר שהכוכב עצמו ×Âו
הגלגל ×Âו המל×Âך דבר עמהנו×Âמר להנעבדוני בכך וכך והודיע להנדרך עבודתו
ועשו כך ו×Âל תעשו כך ופשט דבר זה בכל העולנלעבוד ×Âת הצורות בעבודות
משונות זו מזו ולהקריב להנולהשתחוות וכיון ש×Âרכו הימיננשתכח השנהנכבד
והנורנמפי כל היקונומדעתנולנהכירוהו ונמצ×Âו כל ענה×Âרץ הנשינוהקטני×Â
×Âינניודעינ×Âלנהצורה של ×¢×¥ ושל ×Âבן וההיכל של ×Âבנינשנתחנכו מקטנות×Â
להשתחוות לה ולעבדה ולהשבע בשמה והחכמינשהיו בהנכגון כהניהנוכיוצנבהן
מדמין ש×Âין שנ×Âלוה ×Âלנהכוכבינוהגלגלינשנעשו הצורות ה×Âלו בגלל×Â
ולדמותן ×Âבל צור העולמינלנהיה שונ×Âדנשהיה מכירו ולניודעו ×Âלניחידי×Â
בעולנכגון חנוך ומתושלח נח שנועבר ועל דרך זה היה העולנהולך ומתגלגל
עד שנולד עמודו של עולנוהונ×Âברהנ×Âבינו
After many years passed, there arose people - false prophets - who
told [their nations] that God had commanded them to say: Serve this
star - or all the stars - sacrifice to it, offer libations to it,
build a temple for it and make an image of it so that all people -
including the women, the children, and the common people - could bow
to it.
He would inform them of a form that he had conceived, and tell them
that this is the image of the particular star, claiming that this was
revealed to him in a prophetic vision. In this manner, the people
began to make images in temples, under trees, and on the tops of
mountains and hills.
People would gather together and bow down to them and the [false
prophets] would say: This image is the source of benefit or harm. It
is appropriate to serve it and fear it. Their priests would tell them:
This service will enable you to multiply and be successful. Do this
and this, or do not do this or this.
Subsequently, other deceivers arose and declared that a specific star,
sphere, or angel had spoken to them and commanded them: Serve me in
this manner. He would then relate a mode of service [telling them:] Do
this, do not do this.
Thus, these practices spread throughout the world. People would serve
images with strange practices - one more distorted than the other -
offer sacrifices to them, and bow down to them. As the years passed,
[God's] glorious and awesome name was forgotten by the entire
population. [It was no longer part of] their speech or thought, and
they no longer knew Him. Thus, all the common people, the women, and
the children would know only the image of wood or stone and the
temples of stone to which they were trained from their childhood to
bow down and serve, and in whose name they swore.
The wise men among them would think that there is no God other than
the stars and spheres for whose sake, and in resemblance of which,
they had made these images. The Eternal Rock was not recognized or
known by anyone in the world, with the exception of a [few]
individuals: for example, Chanoch, Metushelach, Noach, Shem, and Ever.
The world continued in this fashion until the pillar of the world -
the Patriarch Abraham - was born.
(Touger translation)
According to this, idol worship was established before the flood.
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WHy so long, the first line of Rambam suffice. Really, the rest is irrelevant to the question. I think
– Al Berko
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@AlBerko The first line doesn't even mention idolatry.
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"בימי ×Âנוש טעו בני ה×Âדנטעות גדול"
– Al Berko
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What's the Ta'us?
– Alex
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@AlBerko If the question was just the title (as you suggested) then it would only be asking for a simple name. But the question appears to be more nuanced, especially the last paragraph, and I think the entirety of the quote deals with the nuances.
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Bereshis 4,26:
"וּלְש×Âֵת גַּ×Â־הוּניֻלַּד־בֵּן וַיִּקְרָנ×Âֶת־ש×Âְמוֹ ×Âֱנוֹשנ×Âָז הוּחַל לִקְרֹנבְּש×Âֵנה'
Rashi:
"×Âז הוחל. לְש×Âוֹן חֻלִּין, לִקְרֹנ×Âֶת ש×Âְמוֹת הָ×Âָדָנוְ×Âֶת ש×Âְמוֹת הָעֲצַבִּינבִּש×Âְמוֹ ש×Âֶל הַקָּבָּ"ה לַעֲשׂוֹתָן ×¢Ö²"זָ וְלִקְרוֹתָן ×Âֱלֹהוּת:"
×Âז הוחל THEN IT WAS BEGUN [TO CALL etc.] — The word הוחל must be connected in meaning with חולין “profane matters “ viz, calling the names of men and the names of idols after the name of the Holy One, blessed be He — making them the objects of idolatrous worship and calling them Deities (Genesis Rabbah 23:7).
NB Enosh was Adam's grandson from Shet.
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Rambam discusses the beginnings of idolatry in Hilchot Avodat Kochavim 1:1-2
בימי ×Âנוש טעו בני ה×Âדנטעות גדול ונבערה עצת חכמי ×Âותו הדור ו×Âנוש עצמו
מן הטועינהיה וזו היתה טעותנ×Âמרו הו×Âיל וה×Âלהינברנכוכבינ×Âלו וגלגלי×Â
להנהיג ×Âת העולנונתננבמרונוחלק להנכבוד והנשמשינהמשמשינלפניו
ר×Âויין הנלשבחנולפ×Âרנולחלוק להנכבוד וזהו רצון ה×Âל ברוך הונלגדל
ולכבד מי שגדלו וכבדו כמו שהמלך רוצה לכבד העומדינלפניו וזהו כבודו של
מלך כיון שעלה דבר זה על לבנהתחילו לבנות לכוכבינהיכלות ולהקריב להן
קרבנות ולשבחנולפ×Âרנבדברינולהשתחוות למולנכדי להשיג רצון הבורנבדעת×Â
הרעה וזה היה עיקר עבודת כוכבינוכך היו ×Âומרינעובדיה היודעינעיקרה ל×Â
שהן ×Âומרינש×Âין שנ×Âלוה ×Âלנכוכב זה הונשירמיהו ×Âומר מי לנייר×Âך מלך
הגוינכי לך י×Âתה כי בכל חכמי הגוינובכל מלכותנמ×Âין כמוך וב×Âחת יבערו
ויכסלו מוסר הבלינעץ הונכלומר הכל יודעינש×Âתה הונלבדך ×Âבל טעות×Â
וכסילותנשמדמינשזה ההבל רצונך הו×Â
During the times of Enosh, mankind made a great mistake, and the wise
men of that generation gave thoughtless counsel. Enosh himself was one
of those who erred.
Their mistake was as follows: They said God created stars and spheres
with which to control the world. He placed them on high and treated
them with honor, making them servants who minister before Him.
Accordingly, it is fitting to praise and glorify them and to treat
them with honor. [They perceived] this to be the will of God, blessed
be He, that they magnify and honor those whom He magnified and
honored, just as a king desires that the servants who stand before him
be honored. Indeed, doing so is an expression of honor to the king.
After conceiving of this notion, they began to construct temples to
the stars and offer sacrifices to them. They would praise and glorify
them with words, and prostrate themselves before them, because by
doing so, they would - according to their false conception - be
fulfilling the will of God.
This was the essence of the worship of false gods, and this was the
rationale of those who worshiped them. They would not say that there
is no other god except for this star.
This message was conveyed by Jeremiah, who declared (10:7-8): "Who
will not fear You, King of the nations, for to You it is fitting.
Among all the wise men of the nations and in all their kingdoms, there
is none like You. They have one foolish and senseless [notion. They
conceive of their] empty teachings as wood;" i.e., all know that You
alone are God. Their foolish error consists of conceiving of this
emptiness as Your will.
ו×Âחר ש×Âרכו הימינעמדו בבני ה×Âדננבי×Âי שקר ו×Âמרו שה×Âל צוה ו×Âמר להנעבדו
כוכב פלוני ×Âו כל הכוכבינוהקריבו לו ונסכו לו כך וכך ובנו לו היכל ועשו
צורתו כדי להשתחוות לו כל הענהנשינוהקטנינוש×Âר עמי ה×Âרץ ומודיע לה×Â
צורה שבדה מלבו ו×Âומר זו הינצורת הכוכב פלוני שהודיעוהו בנבו×Âתו והתחילו
על דרך זו לעשות צורות בהיכלות ותחת ה×Âילנות ובר×Âשי ההרינועל הגבעות
ומתקבצין ומשתחוינלהנו×Âומרינלכל הענשזו הצורה מטיבה ומריעה ור×Âוי
לעובדה וליר×Âה ממנה וכהניהנ×Âומרינלהנשבעבודה זו תרבו ותצליחו ועשו כך
כך ו×Âל תעשו כך וכך והתחילו כוזבינ×Âחרינלעמוד ולומר שהכוכב עצמו ×Âו
הגלגל ×Âו המל×Âך דבר עמהנו×Âמר להנעבדוני בכך וכך והודיע להנדרך עבודתו
ועשו כך ו×Âל תעשו כך ופשט דבר זה בכל העולנלעבוד ×Âת הצורות בעבודות
משונות זו מזו ולהקריב להנולהשתחוות וכיון ש×Âרכו הימיננשתכח השנהנכבד
והנורנמפי כל היקונומדעתנולנהכירוהו ונמצ×Âו כל ענה×Âרץ הנשינוהקטני×Â
×Âינניודעינ×Âלנהצורה של ×¢×¥ ושל ×Âבן וההיכל של ×Âבנינשנתחנכו מקטנות×Â
להשתחוות לה ולעבדה ולהשבע בשמה והחכמינשהיו בהנכגון כהניהנוכיוצנבהן
מדמין ש×Âין שנ×Âלוה ×Âלנהכוכבינוהגלגלינשנעשו הצורות ה×Âלו בגלל×Â
ולדמותן ×Âבל צור העולמינלנהיה שונ×Âדנשהיה מכירו ולניודעו ×Âלניחידי×Â
בעולנכגון חנוך ומתושלח נח שנועבר ועל דרך זה היה העולנהולך ומתגלגל
עד שנולד עמודו של עולנוהונ×Âברהנ×Âבינו
After many years passed, there arose people - false prophets - who
told [their nations] that God had commanded them to say: Serve this
star - or all the stars - sacrifice to it, offer libations to it,
build a temple for it and make an image of it so that all people -
including the women, the children, and the common people - could bow
to it.
He would inform them of a form that he had conceived, and tell them
that this is the image of the particular star, claiming that this was
revealed to him in a prophetic vision. In this manner, the people
began to make images in temples, under trees, and on the tops of
mountains and hills.
People would gather together and bow down to them and the [false
prophets] would say: This image is the source of benefit or harm. It
is appropriate to serve it and fear it. Their priests would tell them:
This service will enable you to multiply and be successful. Do this
and this, or do not do this or this.
Subsequently, other deceivers arose and declared that a specific star,
sphere, or angel had spoken to them and commanded them: Serve me in
this manner. He would then relate a mode of service [telling them:] Do
this, do not do this.
Thus, these practices spread throughout the world. People would serve
images with strange practices - one more distorted than the other -
offer sacrifices to them, and bow down to them. As the years passed,
[God's] glorious and awesome name was forgotten by the entire
population. [It was no longer part of] their speech or thought, and
they no longer knew Him. Thus, all the common people, the women, and
the children would know only the image of wood or stone and the
temples of stone to which they were trained from their childhood to
bow down and serve, and in whose name they swore.
The wise men among them would think that there is no God other than
the stars and spheres for whose sake, and in resemblance of which,
they had made these images. The Eternal Rock was not recognized or
known by anyone in the world, with the exception of a [few]
individuals: for example, Chanoch, Metushelach, Noach, Shem, and Ever.
The world continued in this fashion until the pillar of the world -
the Patriarch Abraham - was born.
(Touger translation)
According to this, idol worship was established before the flood.
answered 3 hours ago
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WHy so long, the first line of Rambam suffice. Really, the rest is irrelevant to the question. I think
– Al Berko
2 hours ago
@AlBerko The first line doesn't even mention idolatry.
– Alex
2 hours ago
"בימי ×Âנוש טעו בני ה×Âדנטעות גדול"
– Al Berko
2 hours ago
What's the Ta'us?
– Alex
2 hours ago
1
@AlBerko If the question was just the title (as you suggested) then it would only be asking for a simple name. But the question appears to be more nuanced, especially the last paragraph, and I think the entirety of the quote deals with the nuances.
– Alex
1 hour ago
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Rambam discusses the beginnings of idolatry in Hilchot Avodat Kochavim 1:1-2
בימי ×Âנוש טעו בני ה×Âדנטעות גדול ונבערה עצת חכמי ×Âותו הדור ו×Âנוש עצמו
מן הטועינהיה וזו היתה טעותנ×Âמרו הו×Âיל וה×Âלהינברנכוכבינ×Âלו וגלגלי×Â
להנהיג ×Âת העולנונתננבמרונוחלק להנכבוד והנשמשינהמשמשינלפניו
ר×Âויין הנלשבחנולפ×Âרנולחלוק להנכבוד וזהו רצון ה×Âל ברוך הונלגדל
ולכבד מי שגדלו וכבדו כמו שהמלך רוצה לכבד העומדינלפניו וזהו כבודו של
מלך כיון שעלה דבר זה על לבנהתחילו לבנות לכוכבינהיכלות ולהקריב להן
קרבנות ולשבחנולפ×Âרנבדברינולהשתחוות למולנכדי להשיג רצון הבורנבדעת×Â
הרעה וזה היה עיקר עבודת כוכבינוכך היו ×Âומרינעובדיה היודעינעיקרה ל×Â
שהן ×Âומרינש×Âין שנ×Âלוה ×Âלנכוכב זה הונשירמיהו ×Âומר מי לנייר×Âך מלך
הגוינכי לך י×Âתה כי בכל חכמי הגוינובכל מלכותנמ×Âין כמוך וב×Âחת יבערו
ויכסלו מוסר הבלינעץ הונכלומר הכל יודעינש×Âתה הונלבדך ×Âבל טעות×Â
וכסילותנשמדמינשזה ההבל רצונך הו×Â
During the times of Enosh, mankind made a great mistake, and the wise
men of that generation gave thoughtless counsel. Enosh himself was one
of those who erred.
Their mistake was as follows: They said God created stars and spheres
with which to control the world. He placed them on high and treated
them with honor, making them servants who minister before Him.
Accordingly, it is fitting to praise and glorify them and to treat
them with honor. [They perceived] this to be the will of God, blessed
be He, that they magnify and honor those whom He magnified and
honored, just as a king desires that the servants who stand before him
be honored. Indeed, doing so is an expression of honor to the king.
After conceiving of this notion, they began to construct temples to
the stars and offer sacrifices to them. They would praise and glorify
them with words, and prostrate themselves before them, because by
doing so, they would - according to their false conception - be
fulfilling the will of God.
This was the essence of the worship of false gods, and this was the
rationale of those who worshiped them. They would not say that there
is no other god except for this star.
This message was conveyed by Jeremiah, who declared (10:7-8): "Who
will not fear You, King of the nations, for to You it is fitting.
Among all the wise men of the nations and in all their kingdoms, there
is none like You. They have one foolish and senseless [notion. They
conceive of their] empty teachings as wood;" i.e., all know that You
alone are God. Their foolish error consists of conceiving of this
emptiness as Your will.
ו×Âחר ש×Âרכו הימינעמדו בבני ה×Âדננבי×Âי שקר ו×Âמרו שה×Âל צוה ו×Âמר להנעבדו
כוכב פלוני ×Âו כל הכוכבינוהקריבו לו ונסכו לו כך וכך ובנו לו היכל ועשו
צורתו כדי להשתחוות לו כל הענהנשינוהקטנינוש×Âר עמי ה×Âרץ ומודיע לה×Â
צורה שבדה מלבו ו×Âומר זו הינצורת הכוכב פלוני שהודיעוהו בנבו×Âתו והתחילו
על דרך זו לעשות צורות בהיכלות ותחת ה×Âילנות ובר×Âשי ההרינועל הגבעות
ומתקבצין ומשתחוינלהנו×Âומרינלכל הענשזו הצורה מטיבה ומריעה ור×Âוי
לעובדה וליר×Âה ממנה וכהניהנ×Âומרינלהנשבעבודה זו תרבו ותצליחו ועשו כך
כך ו×Âל תעשו כך וכך והתחילו כוזבינ×Âחרינלעמוד ולומר שהכוכב עצמו ×Âו
הגלגל ×Âו המל×Âך דבר עמהנו×Âמר להנעבדוני בכך וכך והודיע להנדרך עבודתו
ועשו כך ו×Âל תעשו כך ופשט דבר זה בכל העולנלעבוד ×Âת הצורות בעבודות
משונות זו מזו ולהקריב להנולהשתחוות וכיון ש×Âרכו הימיננשתכח השנהנכבד
והנורנמפי כל היקונומדעתנולנהכירוהו ונמצ×Âו כל ענה×Âרץ הנשינוהקטני×Â
×Âינניודעינ×Âלנהצורה של ×¢×¥ ושל ×Âבן וההיכל של ×Âבנינשנתחנכו מקטנות×Â
להשתחוות לה ולעבדה ולהשבע בשמה והחכמינשהיו בהנכגון כהניהנוכיוצנבהן
מדמין ש×Âין שנ×Âלוה ×Âלנהכוכבינוהגלגלינשנעשו הצורות ה×Âלו בגלל×Â
ולדמותן ×Âבל צור העולמינלנהיה שונ×Âדנשהיה מכירו ולניודעו ×Âלניחידי×Â
בעולנכגון חנוך ומתושלח נח שנועבר ועל דרך זה היה העולנהולך ומתגלגל
עד שנולד עמודו של עולנוהונ×Âברהנ×Âבינו
After many years passed, there arose people - false prophets - who
told [their nations] that God had commanded them to say: Serve this
star - or all the stars - sacrifice to it, offer libations to it,
build a temple for it and make an image of it so that all people -
including the women, the children, and the common people - could bow
to it.
He would inform them of a form that he had conceived, and tell them
that this is the image of the particular star, claiming that this was
revealed to him in a prophetic vision. In this manner, the people
began to make images in temples, under trees, and on the tops of
mountains and hills.
People would gather together and bow down to them and the [false
prophets] would say: This image is the source of benefit or harm. It
is appropriate to serve it and fear it. Their priests would tell them:
This service will enable you to multiply and be successful. Do this
and this, or do not do this or this.
Subsequently, other deceivers arose and declared that a specific star,
sphere, or angel had spoken to them and commanded them: Serve me in
this manner. He would then relate a mode of service [telling them:] Do
this, do not do this.
Thus, these practices spread throughout the world. People would serve
images with strange practices - one more distorted than the other -
offer sacrifices to them, and bow down to them. As the years passed,
[God's] glorious and awesome name was forgotten by the entire
population. [It was no longer part of] their speech or thought, and
they no longer knew Him. Thus, all the common people, the women, and
the children would know only the image of wood or stone and the
temples of stone to which they were trained from their childhood to
bow down and serve, and in whose name they swore.
The wise men among them would think that there is no God other than
the stars and spheres for whose sake, and in resemblance of which,
they had made these images. The Eternal Rock was not recognized or
known by anyone in the world, with the exception of a [few]
individuals: for example, Chanoch, Metushelach, Noach, Shem, and Ever.
The world continued in this fashion until the pillar of the world -
the Patriarch Abraham - was born.
(Touger translation)
According to this, idol worship was established before the flood.
answered 3 hours ago
Alex
13.1k2970
WHy so long, the first line of Rambam suffice. Really, the rest is irrelevant to the question. I think
– Al Berko
2 hours ago
@AlBerko The first line doesn't even mention idolatry.
– Alex
2 hours ago
"בימי ×Âנוש טעו בני ה×Âדנטעות גדול"
– Al Berko
2 hours ago
What's the Ta'us?
– Alex
2 hours ago
1
@AlBerko If the question was just the title (as you suggested) then it would only be asking for a simple name. But the question appears to be more nuanced, especially the last paragraph, and I think the entirety of the quote deals with the nuances.
– Alex
1 hour ago
 |Â
show 1 more comment
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Rambam discusses the beginnings of idolatry in Hilchot Avodat Kochavim 1:1-2
בימי ×Âנוש טעו בני ה×Âדנטעות גדול ונבערה עצת חכמי ×Âותו הדור ו×Âנוש עצמו
מן הטועינהיה וזו היתה טעותנ×Âמרו הו×Âיל וה×Âלהינברנכוכבינ×Âלו וגלגלי×Â
להנהיג ×Âת העולנונתננבמרונוחלק להנכבוד והנשמשינהמשמשינלפניו
ר×Âויין הנלשבחנולפ×Âרנולחלוק להנכבוד וזהו רצון ה×Âל ברוך הונלגדל
ולכבד מי שגדלו וכבדו כמו שהמלך רוצה לכבד העומדינלפניו וזהו כבודו של
מלך כיון שעלה דבר זה על לבנהתחילו לבנות לכוכבינהיכלות ולהקריב להן
קרבנות ולשבחנולפ×Âרנבדברינולהשתחוות למולנכדי להשיג רצון הבורנבדעת×Â
הרעה וזה היה עיקר עבודת כוכבינוכך היו ×Âומרינעובדיה היודעינעיקרה ל×Â
שהן ×Âומרינש×Âין שנ×Âלוה ×Âלנכוכב זה הונשירמיהו ×Âומר מי לנייר×Âך מלך
הגוינכי לך י×Âתה כי בכל חכמי הגוינובכל מלכותנמ×Âין כמוך וב×Âחת יבערו
ויכסלו מוסר הבלינעץ הונכלומר הכל יודעינש×Âתה הונלבדך ×Âבל טעות×Â
וכסילותנשמדמינשזה ההבל רצונך הו×Â
During the times of Enosh, mankind made a great mistake, and the wise
men of that generation gave thoughtless counsel. Enosh himself was one
of those who erred.
Their mistake was as follows: They said God created stars and spheres
with which to control the world. He placed them on high and treated
them with honor, making them servants who minister before Him.
Accordingly, it is fitting to praise and glorify them and to treat
them with honor. [They perceived] this to be the will of God, blessed
be He, that they magnify and honor those whom He magnified and
honored, just as a king desires that the servants who stand before him
be honored. Indeed, doing so is an expression of honor to the king.
After conceiving of this notion, they began to construct temples to
the stars and offer sacrifices to them. They would praise and glorify
them with words, and prostrate themselves before them, because by
doing so, they would - according to their false conception - be
fulfilling the will of God.
This was the essence of the worship of false gods, and this was the
rationale of those who worshiped them. They would not say that there
is no other god except for this star.
This message was conveyed by Jeremiah, who declared (10:7-8): "Who
will not fear You, King of the nations, for to You it is fitting.
Among all the wise men of the nations and in all their kingdoms, there
is none like You. They have one foolish and senseless [notion. They
conceive of their] empty teachings as wood;" i.e., all know that You
alone are God. Their foolish error consists of conceiving of this
emptiness as Your will.
ו×Âחר ש×Âרכו הימינעמדו בבני ה×Âדננבי×Âי שקר ו×Âמרו שה×Âל צוה ו×Âמר להנעבדו
כוכב פלוני ×Âו כל הכוכבינוהקריבו לו ונסכו לו כך וכך ובנו לו היכל ועשו
צורתו כדי להשתחוות לו כל הענהנשינוהקטנינוש×Âר עמי ה×Âרץ ומודיע לה×Â
צורה שבדה מלבו ו×Âומר זו הינצורת הכוכב פלוני שהודיעוהו בנבו×Âתו והתחילו
על דרך זו לעשות צורות בהיכלות ותחת ה×Âילנות ובר×Âשי ההרינועל הגבעות
ומתקבצין ומשתחוינלהנו×Âומרינלכל הענשזו הצורה מטיבה ומריעה ור×Âוי
לעובדה וליר×Âה ממנה וכהניהנ×Âומרינלהנשבעבודה זו תרבו ותצליחו ועשו כך
כך ו×Âל תעשו כך וכך והתחילו כוזבינ×Âחרינלעמוד ולומר שהכוכב עצמו ×Âו
הגלגל ×Âו המל×Âך דבר עמהנו×Âמר להנעבדוני בכך וכך והודיע להנדרך עבודתו
ועשו כך ו×Âל תעשו כך ופשט דבר זה בכל העולנלעבוד ×Âת הצורות בעבודות
משונות זו מזו ולהקריב להנולהשתחוות וכיון ש×Âרכו הימיננשתכח השנהנכבד
והנורנמפי כל היקונומדעתנולנהכירוהו ונמצ×Âו כל ענה×Âרץ הנשינוהקטני×Â
×Âינניודעינ×Âלנהצורה של ×¢×¥ ושל ×Âבן וההיכל של ×Âבנינשנתחנכו מקטנות×Â
להשתחוות לה ולעבדה ולהשבע בשמה והחכמינשהיו בהנכגון כהניהנוכיוצנבהן
מדמין ש×Âין שנ×Âלוה ×Âלנהכוכבינוהגלגלינשנעשו הצורות ה×Âלו בגלל×Â
ולדמותן ×Âבל צור העולמינלנהיה שונ×Âדנשהיה מכירו ולניודעו ×Âלניחידי×Â
בעולנכגון חנוך ומתושלח נח שנועבר ועל דרך זה היה העולנהולך ומתגלגל
עד שנולד עמודו של עולנוהונ×Âברהנ×Âבינו
After many years passed, there arose people - false prophets - who
told [their nations] that God had commanded them to say: Serve this
star - or all the stars - sacrifice to it, offer libations to it,
build a temple for it and make an image of it so that all people -
including the women, the children, and the common people - could bow
to it.
He would inform them of a form that he had conceived, and tell them
that this is the image of the particular star, claiming that this was
revealed to him in a prophetic vision. In this manner, the people
began to make images in temples, under trees, and on the tops of
mountains and hills.
People would gather together and bow down to them and the [false
prophets] would say: This image is the source of benefit or harm. It
is appropriate to serve it and fear it. Their priests would tell them:
This service will enable you to multiply and be successful. Do this
and this, or do not do this or this.
Subsequently, other deceivers arose and declared that a specific star,
sphere, or angel had spoken to them and commanded them: Serve me in
this manner. He would then relate a mode of service [telling them:] Do
this, do not do this.
Thus, these practices spread throughout the world. People would serve
images with strange practices - one more distorted than the other -
offer sacrifices to them, and bow down to them. As the years passed,
[God's] glorious and awesome name was forgotten by the entire
population. [It was no longer part of] their speech or thought, and
they no longer knew Him. Thus, all the common people, the women, and
the children would know only the image of wood or stone and the
temples of stone to which they were trained from their childhood to
bow down and serve, and in whose name they swore.
The wise men among them would think that there is no God other than
the stars and spheres for whose sake, and in resemblance of which,
they had made these images. The Eternal Rock was not recognized or
known by anyone in the world, with the exception of a [few]
individuals: for example, Chanoch, Metushelach, Noach, Shem, and Ever.
The world continued in this fashion until the pillar of the world -
the Patriarch Abraham - was born.
(Touger translation)
According to this, idol worship was established before the flood.
answered 3 hours ago
Alex
13.1k2970
Rambam discusses the beginnings of idolatry in Hilchot Avodat Kochavim 1:1-2
בימי ×Âנוש טעו בני ה×Âדנטעות גדול ונבערה עצת חכמי ×Âותו הדור ו×Âנוש עצמו
מן הטועינהיה וזו היתה טעותנ×Âמרו הו×Âיל וה×Âלהינברנכוכבינ×Âלו וגלגלי×Â
להנהיג ×Âת העולנונתננבמרונוחלק להנכבוד והנשמשינהמשמשינלפניו
ר×Âויין הנלשבחנולפ×Âרנולחלוק להנכבוד וזהו רצון ה×Âל ברוך הונלגדל
ולכבד מי שגדלו וכבדו כמו שהמלך רוצה לכבד העומדינלפניו וזהו כבודו של
מלך כיון שעלה דבר זה על לבנהתחילו לבנות לכוכבינהיכלות ולהקריב להן
קרבנות ולשבחנולפ×Âרנבדברינולהשתחוות למולנכדי להשיג רצון הבורנבדעת×Â
הרעה וזה היה עיקר עבודת כוכבינוכך היו ×Âומרינעובדיה היודעינעיקרה ל×Â
שהן ×Âומרינש×Âין שנ×Âלוה ×Âלנכוכב זה הונשירמיהו ×Âומר מי לנייר×Âך מלך
הגוינכי לך י×Âתה כי בכל חכמי הגוינובכל מלכותנמ×Âין כמוך וב×Âחת יבערו
ויכסלו מוסר הבלינעץ הונכלומר הכל יודעינש×Âתה הונלבדך ×Âבל טעות×Â
וכסילותנשמדמינשזה ההבל רצונך הו×Â
During the times of Enosh, mankind made a great mistake, and the wise
men of that generation gave thoughtless counsel. Enosh himself was one
of those who erred.
Their mistake was as follows: They said God created stars and spheres
with which to control the world. He placed them on high and treated
them with honor, making them servants who minister before Him.
Accordingly, it is fitting to praise and glorify them and to treat
them with honor. [They perceived] this to be the will of God, blessed
be He, that they magnify and honor those whom He magnified and
honored, just as a king desires that the servants who stand before him
be honored. Indeed, doing so is an expression of honor to the king.
After conceiving of this notion, they began to construct temples to
the stars and offer sacrifices to them. They would praise and glorify
them with words, and prostrate themselves before them, because by
doing so, they would - according to their false conception - be
fulfilling the will of God.
This was the essence of the worship of false gods, and this was the
rationale of those who worshiped them. They would not say that there
is no other god except for this star.
This message was conveyed by Jeremiah, who declared (10:7-8): "Who
will not fear You, King of the nations, for to You it is fitting.
Among all the wise men of the nations and in all their kingdoms, there
is none like You. They have one foolish and senseless [notion. They
conceive of their] empty teachings as wood;" i.e., all know that You
alone are God. Their foolish error consists of conceiving of this
emptiness as Your will.
ו×Âחר ש×Âרכו הימינעמדו בבני ה×Âדננבי×Âי שקר ו×Âמרו שה×Âל צוה ו×Âמר להנעבדו
כוכב פלוני ×Âו כל הכוכבינוהקריבו לו ונסכו לו כך וכך ובנו לו היכל ועשו
צורתו כדי להשתחוות לו כל הענהנשינוהקטנינוש×Âר עמי ה×Âרץ ומודיע לה×Â
צורה שבדה מלבו ו×Âומר זו הינצורת הכוכב פלוני שהודיעוהו בנבו×Âתו והתחילו
על דרך זו לעשות צורות בהיכלות ותחת ה×Âילנות ובר×Âשי ההרינועל הגבעות
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עד שנולד עמודו של עולנוהונ×Âברהנ×Âבינו
After many years passed, there arose people - false prophets - who
told [their nations] that God had commanded them to say: Serve this
star - or all the stars - sacrifice to it, offer libations to it,
build a temple for it and make an image of it so that all people -
including the women, the children, and the common people - could bow
to it.
He would inform them of a form that he had conceived, and tell them
that this is the image of the particular star, claiming that this was
revealed to him in a prophetic vision. In this manner, the people
began to make images in temples, under trees, and on the tops of
mountains and hills.
People would gather together and bow down to them and the [false
prophets] would say: This image is the source of benefit or harm. It
is appropriate to serve it and fear it. Their priests would tell them:
This service will enable you to multiply and be successful. Do this
and this, or do not do this or this.
Subsequently, other deceivers arose and declared that a specific star,
sphere, or angel had spoken to them and commanded them: Serve me in
this manner. He would then relate a mode of service [telling them:] Do
this, do not do this.
Thus, these practices spread throughout the world. People would serve
images with strange practices - one more distorted than the other -
offer sacrifices to them, and bow down to them. As the years passed,
[God's] glorious and awesome name was forgotten by the entire
population. [It was no longer part of] their speech or thought, and
they no longer knew Him. Thus, all the common people, the women, and
the children would know only the image of wood or stone and the
temples of stone to which they were trained from their childhood to
bow down and serve, and in whose name they swore.
The wise men among them would think that there is no God other than
the stars and spheres for whose sake, and in resemblance of which,
they had made these images. The Eternal Rock was not recognized or
known by anyone in the world, with the exception of a [few]
individuals: for example, Chanoch, Metushelach, Noach, Shem, and Ever.
The world continued in this fashion until the pillar of the world -
the Patriarch Abraham - was born.
(Touger translation)
According to this, idol worship was established before the flood.
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WHy so long, the first line of Rambam suffice. Really, the rest is irrelevant to the question. I think
– Al Berko
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@AlBerko The first line doesn't even mention idolatry.
– Alex
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"בימי ×Âנוש טעו בני ה×Âדנטעות גדול"
– Al Berko
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What's the Ta'us?
– Alex
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@AlBerko If the question was just the title (as you suggested) then it would only be asking for a simple name. But the question appears to be more nuanced, especially the last paragraph, and I think the entirety of the quote deals with the nuances.
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WHy so long, the first line of Rambam suffice. Really, the rest is irrelevant to the question. I think
– Al Berko
2 hours ago
@AlBerko The first line doesn't even mention idolatry.
– Alex
2 hours ago
"בימי ×Âנוש טעו בני ה×Âדנטעות גדול"
– Al Berko
2 hours ago
What's the Ta'us?
– Alex
2 hours ago
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@AlBerko If the question was just the title (as you suggested) then it would only be asking for a simple name. But the question appears to be more nuanced, especially the last paragraph, and I think the entirety of the quote deals with the nuances.
– Alex
1 hour ago
WHy so long, the first line of Rambam suffice. Really, the rest is irrelevant to the question. I think
– Al Berko
2 hours ago
WHy so long, the first line of Rambam suffice. Really, the rest is irrelevant to the question. I think
– Al Berko
2 hours ago
@AlBerko The first line doesn't even mention idolatry.
– Alex
2 hours ago
@AlBerko The first line doesn't even mention idolatry.
– Alex
2 hours ago
"בימי ×Âנוש טעו בני ה×Âדנטעות גדול"
– Al Berko
2 hours ago
"בימי ×Âנוש טעו בני ה×Âדנטעות גדול"
– Al Berko
2 hours ago
What's the Ta'us?
– Alex
2 hours ago
What's the Ta'us?
– Alex
2 hours ago
1
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@AlBerko If the question was just the title (as you suggested) then it would only be asking for a simple name. But the question appears to be more nuanced, especially the last paragraph, and I think the entirety of the quote deals with the nuances.
– Alex
1 hour ago
@AlBerko If the question was just the title (as you suggested) then it would only be asking for a simple name. But the question appears to be more nuanced, especially the last paragraph, and I think the entirety of the quote deals with the nuances.
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Bereshis 4,26:
"וּלְש×Âֵת גַּ×Â־הוּניֻלַּד־בֵּן וַיִּקְרָנ×Âֶת־ש×Âְמוֹ ×Âֱנוֹשנ×Âָז הוּחַל לִקְרֹנבְּש×Âֵנה'
Rashi:
"×Âז הוחל. לְש×Âוֹן חֻלִּין, לִקְרֹנ×Âֶת ש×Âְמוֹת הָ×Âָדָנוְ×Âֶת ש×Âְמוֹת הָעֲצַבִּינבִּש×Âְמוֹ ש×Âֶל הַקָּבָּ"ה לַעֲשׂוֹתָן ×¢Ö²"זָ וְלִקְרוֹתָן ×Âֱלֹהוּת:"
×Âז הוחל THEN IT WAS BEGUN [TO CALL etc.] — The word הוחל must be connected in meaning with חולין “profane matters “ viz, calling the names of men and the names of idols after the name of the Holy One, blessed be He — making them the objects of idolatrous worship and calling them Deities (Genesis Rabbah 23:7).
NB Enosh was Adam's grandson from Shet.
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Bereshis 4,26:
"וּלְש×Âֵת גַּ×Â־הוּניֻלַּד־בֵּן וַיִּקְרָנ×Âֶת־ש×Âְמוֹ ×Âֱנוֹשנ×Âָז הוּחַל לִקְרֹנבְּש×Âֵנה'
Rashi:
"×Âז הוחל. לְש×Âוֹן חֻלִּין, לִקְרֹנ×Âֶת ש×Âְמוֹת הָ×Âָדָנוְ×Âֶת ש×Âְמוֹת הָעֲצַבִּינבִּש×Âְמוֹ ש×Âֶל הַקָּבָּ"ה לַעֲשׂוֹתָן ×¢Ö²"זָ וְלִקְרוֹתָן ×Âֱלֹהוּת:"
×Âז הוחל THEN IT WAS BEGUN [TO CALL etc.] — The word הוחל must be connected in meaning with חולין “profane matters “ viz, calling the names of men and the names of idols after the name of the Holy One, blessed be He — making them the objects of idolatrous worship and calling them Deities (Genesis Rabbah 23:7).
NB Enosh was Adam's grandson from Shet.
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Bereshis 4,26:
"וּלְש×Âֵת גַּ×Â־הוּניֻלַּד־בֵּן וַיִּקְרָנ×Âֶת־ש×Âְמוֹ ×Âֱנוֹשנ×Âָז הוּחַל לִקְרֹנבְּש×Âֵנה'
Rashi:
"×Âז הוחל. לְש×Âוֹן חֻלִּין, לִקְרֹנ×Âֶת ש×Âְמוֹת הָ×Âָדָנוְ×Âֶת ש×Âְמוֹת הָעֲצַבִּינבִּש×Âְמוֹ ש×Âֶל הַקָּבָּ"ה לַעֲשׂוֹתָן ×¢Ö²"זָ וְלִקְרוֹתָן ×Âֱלֹהוּת:"
×Âז הוחל THEN IT WAS BEGUN [TO CALL etc.] — The word הוחל must be connected in meaning with חולין “profane matters “ viz, calling the names of men and the names of idols after the name of the Holy One, blessed be He — making them the objects of idolatrous worship and calling them Deities (Genesis Rabbah 23:7).
NB Enosh was Adam's grandson from Shet.
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Bereshis 4,26:
"וּלְש×Âֵת גַּ×Â־הוּניֻלַּד־בֵּן וַיִּקְרָנ×Âֶת־ש×Âְמוֹ ×Âֱנוֹשנ×Âָז הוּחַל לִקְרֹנבְּש×Âֵנה'
Rashi:
"×Âז הוחל. לְש×Âוֹן חֻלִּין, לִקְרֹנ×Âֶת ש×Âְמוֹת הָ×Âָדָנוְ×Âֶת ש×Âְמוֹת הָעֲצַבִּינבִּש×Âְמוֹ ש×Âֶל הַקָּבָּ"ה לַעֲשׂוֹתָן ×¢Ö²"זָ וְלִקְרוֹתָן ×Âֱלֹהוּת:"
×Âז הוחל THEN IT WAS BEGUN [TO CALL etc.] — The word הוחל must be connected in meaning with חולין “profane matters “ viz, calling the names of men and the names of idols after the name of the Holy One, blessed be He — making them the objects of idolatrous worship and calling them Deities (Genesis Rabbah 23:7).
NB Enosh was Adam's grandson from Shet.
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Educated guess - Nimrod.
– DanF
4 hours ago
@DanF yes, I have suspected that as well, but I'm looking for some source that might establish that other than "it makes sense".
– Robert Columbia
4 hours ago
Perhaps Ramba"m. Probably near the beginning Yesodei Hatorah.
– DanF
3 hours ago
Your title says it all, the rest of the details are unnecessary, esp the list.
– Al Berko
2 hours ago