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I know Eberron and FaerÃƒÂ»n are different planes but I have players who want to play warforged. What connections exist between the planes to facilitate a Eberron race ending up in FaerÃƒÂ»n?

I am looking for a way to explain how the level 0/1 got to FaerÃƒÂ»n. He does not need to be the source of the effect.

It was my understanding that there are locations in lore that describe semi-permanent gateways between planes, and I am trying to find out if there is a chain I could use to get someone from Eberron to The Sword Coast.

The Ethereal Plane does not connect Eberron and Faerun in the official canon. Do you mean the Phlogiston? This answer to a related question discusses travel between different worlds in more detail. Also, welcome to the site! Take the tour if you get the chance. — 10 hours ago
Are you looking for the mechanic or the reason for using a certain mechanic? The prior we can do...the latter is likely going to be opinion based. — 10 hours ago
Assuming someone comes along and gives you another upvote (for 20 rep total), you might want to check out Role-playing Games Chat; that would be a better place for discussing this kind of thing. I totally have thoughts here, but they wouldnÃ¢Â€Â™t make for a proper answer by the site rules. Feel free to ping me here when you get 20 rep if you want. — 10 hours ago
@KorvinStarmast that's why I said "official canon." The DM can change the world/cosmology how he likes including by adding connections to other crystal spheres within the ethereal plane. The OP has not stated that this is the case though so my base assumption was to use established lore. — 10 hours ago
@KorvinStarmast I am looking for a way to explain how the level 0/1 got to Faerun he does not need to be the source of the effect. It was my understanding that there are locations in lore that describe semi-permanent gateways between planes, and I am trying to find out if there is a chain I could use to get someone from Eberron to The Sword Coast. — 8 hours ago

score 6 · Answer 1 · 2018-09-18 00:42:20Z

Eberron and FaerÃƒÂ»n might be connected, possibly

It is the default of D&D campaign settings that they are connected to one another through the Ã¢Â€Âœmultiverse,Ã¢Â€Â which refers to all the other planes beyond the Material one the campaign setting is set on. In AD&D 2e, those planes themselves became their own major campaign setting, Planescape. And it is possible for Eberron to be connected to PlanescapeÃ¢Â€Â™s Ã¢Â€ÂœGreat WheelÃ¢Â€Â of planes, but it certainly is awkward.

Originally, in 3rd edition, EberronÃ¢Â€Â™s cosmology was unique. It had Astral, Ethereal, and Shadow planes, or approximations of them (i.e. spells relying on them still work), but they didnÃ¢Â€Â™t seem to connect to the wider Great Wheel or serve the same Ã¢Â€ÂœconnectiveÃ¢Â€Â value. The planes it does have werenÃ¢Â€Â™t other dimensions, but literally moons you could see from the surface of Eberron. And they didnÃ¢Â€Â™t neatly line up with the planes of the Great Wheel. And the afterlife and gods were all different, too.

But then, nothing said Eberron didnÃ¢Â€Â™t connect to the wider multiverse, per se. Any such connection was left out, but not ruled out. You could definitely make it workÃ¢Â€Â”noted expert afroakuma does so in his Planescape Q&As, for example. For that matter, as Quadratic Wizard points out, PlayerÃ¢Â€Â™s Handbook lists Eberron as being one of the campaign settings connected to the multiverse, though it doesnÃ¢Â€Â™t bother to explain how.¹ The moons seen in the sky could just be lenses into the outer planes, appearing as bubbles in the night sky, for instance. This takes some hand-waving since several of those planes arenÃ¢Â€Â™t really any one plane in the Great Wheel, but it can be made to work. WeÃ¢Â€Â™ll assume connections exists, then.

_{And, for that matter, it also lists Mystara, which is even harder to make fit into the multiverse than Eberron is.}

Those connections, if they exist, are rarely used, but we have Merrix

Even if those connections exist, they are rarely used; Toril doesnÃ¢Â€Â™t know about Eberron and Eberron certainly doesnÃ¢Â€Â™t know about Toril or the rest of the planes. If people did, theyÃ¢Â€Â™d almost-certainly seek them out rather than the fairly-extreme approaches to avoiding Dolurhh that some in Eberron takeÃ¢Â€Â”like joining the Blood of Vol or a cult to the Keeper. WeÃ¢Â€Â™d hear about it, and by-and-large we do not.

But those connections could be rare and difficult to use. The Ã¢Â€ÂœlensingÃ¢Â€Â effect that produces EberronÃ¢Â€Â™s moons can also make those sections of the planes difficult to leave for the wider Great Wheel. Outsiders native to them could have restrictions on their behavior that prevents them from explaining the situation or allowing EberronÃ¢Â€Â™s peoples outÃ¢Â€Â”or the wider planesÃ¢Â€Â™ peoples in.

And then the limited ways out of Eberron would be known to extremely few. Some dragons, presumably. Maybe Erandis dÃ¢Â€Â™Vol herself. Tira Miron, at least if sheÃ¢Â€Â™s everything sheÃ¢Â€Â™s purported to be, probably would, and so would Oalian. The Aereni Undying Court, perhaps.

But if anyone knows it, then we can be damn sure that Merrix dÃ¢Â€Â™Cannith knows it. Because knowing all the secrets and darkest lore about the metaphysics of his world is pretty much Merrix dÃ¢Â€Â™CannithÃ¢Â€Â™s raison dÃ¢Â€Â™ÃƒÂªtre.

That leads us to an easy explanation: the only person known to still be creating (normal, functional, playable) warforged is Merrix dÃ¢Â€Â™Cannith, operating out of an illegal creation forge buried deep within Cannith SouthÃ¢Â€Â™s holdings in Sharn. He is known (to players and DMs, if not to any of the Eberron public) to continue producing warforged for the sake of various experiments. And if he knew about connections to FaerÃƒÂ»n? It would be weird if he didnÃ¢Â€Â™t send some through.

As for how, EberronÃ¢Â€Â™s always got eldritch machines, which are literally just Ã¢Â€Âœplot hookÃ¢Â€Â in industrial form. I prefer that over an awkward trek through EberronÃ¢Â€Â™s moonÃ¢Â€Â“lenses to get to the Great Wheel and then somehow get to Toril, because thatÃ¢Â€Â™s a rather-unlikely journey for a 1st-level character. Merrix dÃ¢Â€Â™Cannith has already known to have performed several experiments on eldritch machines, so this is no great stretch.

FaerÃƒÂ»n could reasonably produce warforged too

FaerÃƒÂ»n is just chock-full of preposterously-powerful mages, and things like golems are already things there. And given FaerÃƒÂ»nÃ¢Â€Â™s propensity for mages who sit in towers doing research without ever interacting with the rest of the world, for one of those to have pursued the idea of imbuing an artificial construct with real life, succeed, and then not tell anybody about it, is entirely in keeping with the campaign setting as a whole. In comments, nitsua60 mentions that the new Dragon Heist adventure includes new constructs, and in his answer, Matt Vincent mentions the techsmiths of Gond and their Gondsmen, which are much of the way to warforged already. So for there to be just one, or a handful, of warforged in FaerÃƒÂ»n is quite plausible.

The key thing that separates FaerÃƒÂ»n and Eberron here isnÃ¢Â€Â™t the prevalence of magic, but EberronÃ¢Â€Â™s industrialization of magic, which FaerÃƒÂ»n hasnÃ¢Â€Â™t done. As long as warforged arenÃ¢Â€Â™t disrupting FaerÃƒÂ»nian societies through large populations demanding rights and recognition, and having disruptive economic effects, then the setting of FaerÃƒÂ»n wonÃ¢Â€Â™t be threatened by their existence.

A semi-aside: connecting Eberron to the Great Wheel

As described above, you can connect Eberron to the Great Wheel, but it is awkward. Below, IÃ¢Â€Â™ll describe some of what has to be dealt with in general for this, but since youÃ¢Â€Â™re not playing in Eberron there isnÃ¢Â€Â™t really any reason you need to pin any of these answers down. FaerÃƒÂ»n doesnÃ¢Â€Â™t really care about how Eberron links up to its cosmology, just whether or not it does. For the purposes of a FaerÃƒÂ»n character, itÃ¢Â€Â™s enough to just say Ã¢Â€Âœit doesÃ¢Â€Â and leave the details of how that works out and how you explain EberronÃ¢Â€Â™s unique features unexplained (and possibly to be explored later, in play, since after all the characters themselves probably wouldnÃ¢Â€Â™t know).

Dealing with moons: Shavarath as an example

For example, Shavarath is basically the Blood War: celestials vs. demons vs. devils. In the Great Wheel, the Blood War plays out across the three planes between Hell and the Abyss, with the celestials coming from yet another set of planes, and numerous schemes and flanking maneuvers spreading out across all the planes. In Eberron, that all is confined to just Shavarath.

To make that work, you have to imagine that Shavarath is connected to some particular plane or portion of a plane in the Great WheelÃ¢Â€Â”perhaps, the place where the fighting of the Blood War is thickest. And then there are portals, perhaps, in each of the encampments for the three sides, connecting further on to the Heavens, Hells, or Abyss, making those seem like part of Shavarath from an Eberron perspective.

Afterlife: what is Dolurhh?

The other major issue is the afterlife. If EberronÃ¢Â€Â™s beliefs are true (and while thereÃ¢Â€Â™s wiggle room to make them not true, the consistency of these beliefs across many cultures and religions makes that a bit of a stretch), souls mostly donÃ¢Â€Â™t go to some befitting afterlife, as they do in the rest of the multiverse (and there is not much wiggle room on that!). Instead, they go to Dolurhh, a gray blandness where they are broken down and recycled. The Church of the Silver Flame believes that this fate can be avoided by joining the Flame in death, and some cultists of the Keeper believe that proper devotion to him and/or the Dark Six can result in oneÃ¢Â€Â™s soul being Ã¢Â€ÂœkeptÃ¢Â€Â in some other (better?) afterlife.

The beliefs of the devotees to the Flame or Keeper fit within the Great Wheel pretty well, and the lack of FaerÃƒÂ»nÃ¢Â€Â™s particular idiosyncracies (Wall of the Faithless etc.) is no big deal because that is known to be something specific to the Realms set up by Ao, the RealmsÃ¢Â€Â™ overgod. No overgod is known for Eberron, but presumably it would have one if it is just another Material Plane within the Great WheelÃ¢Â€Â”so it is possible that the unnamed overgod of Eberron has decreed that souls (usually) go to DolurhhÃ¢Â€Â”wherever that isÃ¢Â€Â”on death, instead of their usual resting place with the appropriate plane or divine realm. Dolurhh itself might be just a demiplane, for example, since it doesnÃ¢Â€Â™t have anything in it and thereÃ¢Â€Â™s no particular reason it would need to be large.

About gods in general

Talking about gods brings us to another issue: the gods themselves. Gods in Eberron work very differently from everywhere else, being so distant and aloof that you canÃ¢Â€Â™t actually be sure they exist at all.

This is pretty easily explained, though: just as Ao requires the gods of the Realms to deal special hoops to jump through (necessitating the Wall of the Faithless), the unnamed overgod of Eberron requires gods there to be extremely hands-off, or limits how powerful the gods there are allowed to be, or bans them entirely.

Regardless, those gods, if they exist, are only those willing to put up with the requirementsÃ¢Â€Â”which isnÃ¢Â€Â™t the major powers of the Great Wheel. Important deities in Eberron wouldnÃ¢Â€Â™t be worth even noticing elsewhere; theyÃ¢Â€Â™re just the only ones willing to deal with the rules. Or quite simply none are (or the rules are simply Ã¢Â€Âœno godsÃ¢Â€Â), and the faiths of Eberron are entirely in their believersÃ¢Â€Â™ imaginations.

I particularly like the section addressing: FaerÃ»n could reasonably produce warforged too As ever, another fine KR_Productions offering. +1 — 5 hours ago
@KorvinStarmast No longer the last section, but glad it worked for you. — 5 hours ago
As a bit of support for your "Faerun's lousy with mages, somebody's probably done it," there're new constructs in Dragon Heist that back your assertion up. — 4 hours ago

score 4 · Answer 2 · 2018-09-17 21:53:15Z

4e's Dragon #371 ("Origin Stories: Incorporating Races") discussed the idea of Warforged in Faerun, mentioning the following five possibilities:

a one off wizard experiment

a product of a (non-Thayan) Red Wizard Enclave

coming from Ebberon by way of Sigil

travelling from the Returned Abeir nation of Gontal (possibly from a primordial's ancient shattered metallic fortress) or

awakening after a century of slumber near Lantan

That last one is my favorite:

Prior to Lantan sinking during FaerÃƒÂ»n's Spellplague, it was a technologically advanced island (much like legendary Atlantis) that developed highly advanced clockwork mechanisms and worshipped Gond. Indeed, techsmiths of Gond could construct a mechanical Gondsman as a loyal mechanical warrior, assistant, bodyguard, and friend (confusingly, priests of Gond were sometimes called Gondsmen as well).

Also note: the new Chult map in Tomb of Annihilation shows nearby Lantan as apparently resurfaced, so it might be an excellent time for a Gondsman (or similar construct) to appear.

Quadratic Wizard 19.4k367107 · Answer 3 · 2018-09-17 21:09:37Z

Travel to Eberron is possible, but poorly documented.

There is little to no evidence in Eberron lore that anyone has travelled there from another campaign setting. Nevertheless, it may be possible.

Visiting Eberron

According to the Player's Handbook, p.5:

The worlds of the Dungeons & Dragons game exist within a vast cosmos called the multiverse, connected in strange and mysterious ways to one another and to other planes of existence [...] The legends of the Forgotten Realms, Dragonlance, Greyhawk, Dark Sun, Mystara, and Eberron settings are woven together in the fabric of the multiverse.

The DM is free to define just how, but traditionally, travel between campaign settings uses one of the following methods:

Planar travel: One may travel betwen worlds using vast and mysterious other planes, such as the Astral Plane, Plane of Shadow (Shadowfell) or the Ethereal Plane. One might step into a doorway in the planar city of Sigil and find oneself in Khorvaire.

Spelljamming: Ships are known to travel through the ether between the solar systems of worlds including those of the Forgotten Realms, Dragonlance and Greyhawk. The Spelljammer campaign setting pre-dates the release of Eberron, so there is no mention of Eberron in Spelljammer, but it remains possible.

Portals: The Forgotten Realms has many portals to other worlds, including our Earth. It is not inconceivable that one would lead to Eberron.

Warforged built in FaerÃ»n

Warforged may be built in the Forgotten Realms, as a kind of covergent evolution in design. The Realms has had many exceptionally talented mages, and it's very easy to imagine that one of them invented the Warforged, a kind of intelligent construct. Some possibilities:

Warforged were built by an ancient fallen civilization. The secrets are lost, but some warforged have recently been built from parts kits found in the ruins of their dungeons. Were they creating an army? Host bodies to be possessed by mages seeking eternal life? We may never know.

The warforged are an ancient race whose progenitors are unknown. They are all programmed with the secret knowledge of how to build new creatures of their type. They are rare and have avoided society for some time, to avoid being forced to create new members of their kind for evil uses.

A Cannith forge was shifted to Toril during the Sundering, or captured and taken there by some deity.

When Abeir and Toril were merged, it turned out that the warforged had existed on Abeir for thousands of years, where they were built as foot soldiers by a decadent civilization who did not wish to dirty their hands with the base matter of war. When the worlds split again, many warforged were left over on Toril.

Warforged have simply existed in FaerÃ»n for some time now, as a natural evolution of the traditional art of building iron golems.

Mystery

You have no memory of your origins, and your reason for adventuring is to find answers. Who created you? Are there more of your kind?

score 0 · Answer 4 · 2018-09-17 21:51:16Z

For an easy connection: a two legged journey (layover in Sigil)

Based on a recent discussion with a 5e dev, that addresses how 5e is accounting for previous lore and settings that have not yet (in this edition) gotten full treatment, your Warforged can "get there from here." Have a listen to this discussion with one of the deves.

A key to solving the problem was pointed out in this summary of the youtube linked above:

(1) Eberron's Crystal Sphere is cracking, possibly eventually allowing, say, a Spelljammer visit

and

(2) A portal, or portals, to Eberron exist in Sigil.

(Caveat: this is a dev talking, in the youtube. As far as I know this is not yet in official published material, so you have to decide if you find it authoritative enough. I do. So does the DM in a campaign I am in where we have a Warforged PC).

Sigil (originally from the Planescape setting) is mentioned in the 5e Dungeon Masters guide, as is Eberron; their existence are both accepted in 5e official material. The key piece is getting out of Eberron: due to the Crystal Sphere cosmology, this has been a tough nut to crack in previous edition lore.

How does the Warforged get from Eberron-to-Sigil-to-Faerun?

The PC is doing something on Eberron, and is

(a) fleeing from (X) and has to go through a gate.

(b) gets a mission/tasking from powerful patron and is sent through the gate

and ends up in Sigil.

Once in Sigil, PC is helped by someone, or gets tricked by someone, with the result being that they go through a gate that takes them to Faerun.

Gates are a thing in 5e, however you want to manage them. You can use spells, or magical items, as the trigger for the PC going through a gate.

There's your Warforged PC, in Faerun. (As usual, the PC's luggage got sent to Denver. 8^D )

Even less complicated: use a Wish spell

The Weave is not limited to Toril/Faerun. Given how broad wish is in terms of what it can do, and since the Weave is a common thread across settings in D&D 5e, you can cut out all of the complications and have the travel from Eberron to Faerun be the result of a wish; make the details fit your setting and your world.

Example scenario:

The PC is a low rank warrior in a large fighting
formation that is overrun by a numerically superior enemy. The last
few surviving members are on a mountain top. The warforged PC picks
up the fallen leader's sword (known to be magical) keeps on fighting
this hopeless battle as more enemy come up the hill. As the last of
his comrades fall, and the sword sticks into the shield of his latest attacker, he mutters out loud:

"I wish I were somewhere else; anywhere else!"

The sword happens to be a luck blade with one last wish remaining on it.

The PC ends up in Faerun. The sword doesn't.

I truly hope they arenÃ¢Â€Â™t exporting the Weave garbage to Eberron. Bad enough that they describe it generically rather than as Realms-specific nonsense. — 2 hours ago
@KRyan It's all part of their vague, nebulous, forgotten-realms-totally-isn't-the-default-setting multiverse stance. It's pretty safe to assume anything that isn't setting-specific to a setting other than FR is actually just FR. — 2 hours ago
@KRyan At this point, I am a little lost as to what Mearls and Crawford are up to. This is the old "stay tuned" deal ... — 48 mins ago

score 6 · Answer 5 · 2018-09-18 00:42:20Z

Eberron and FaerÃƒÂ»n might be connected, possibly

It is the default of D&D campaign settings that they are connected to one another through the Ã¢Â€Âœmultiverse,Ã¢Â€Â which refers to all the other planes beyond the Material one the campaign setting is set on. In AD&D 2e, those planes themselves became their own major campaign setting, Planescape. And it is possible for Eberron to be connected to PlanescapeÃ¢Â€Â™s Ã¢Â€ÂœGreat WheelÃ¢Â€Â of planes, but it certainly is awkward.

Originally, in 3rd edition, EberronÃ¢Â€Â™s cosmology was unique. It had Astral, Ethereal, and Shadow planes, or approximations of them (i.e. spells relying on them still work), but they didnÃ¢Â€Â™t seem to connect to the wider Great Wheel or serve the same Ã¢Â€ÂœconnectiveÃ¢Â€Â value. The planes it does have werenÃ¢Â€Â™t other dimensions, but literally moons you could see from the surface of Eberron. And they didnÃ¢Â€Â™t neatly line up with the planes of the Great Wheel. And the afterlife and gods were all different, too.

But then, nothing said Eberron didnÃ¢Â€Â™t connect to the wider multiverse, per se. Any such connection was left out, but not ruled out. You could definitely make it workÃ¢Â€Â”noted expert afroakuma does so in his Planescape Q&As, for example. For that matter, as Quadratic Wizard points out, PlayerÃ¢Â€Â™s Handbook lists Eberron as being one of the campaign settings connected to the multiverse, though it doesnÃ¢Â€Â™t bother to explain how.¹ The moons seen in the sky could just be lenses into the outer planes, appearing as bubbles in the night sky, for instance. This takes some hand-waving since several of those planes arenÃ¢Â€Â™t really any one plane in the Great Wheel, but it can be made to work. WeÃ¢Â€Â™ll assume connections exists, then.

_{And, for that matter, it also lists Mystara, which is even harder to make fit into the multiverse than Eberron is.}

Those connections, if they exist, are rarely used, but we have Merrix

Even if those connections exist, they are rarely used; Toril doesnÃ¢Â€Â™t know about Eberron and Eberron certainly doesnÃ¢Â€Â™t know about Toril or the rest of the planes. If people did, theyÃ¢Â€Â™d almost-certainly seek them out rather than the fairly-extreme approaches to avoiding Dolurhh that some in Eberron takeÃ¢Â€Â”like joining the Blood of Vol or a cult to the Keeper. WeÃ¢Â€Â™d hear about it, and by-and-large we do not.

But those connections could be rare and difficult to use. The Ã¢Â€ÂœlensingÃ¢Â€Â effect that produces EberronÃ¢Â€Â™s moons can also make those sections of the planes difficult to leave for the wider Great Wheel. Outsiders native to them could have restrictions on their behavior that prevents them from explaining the situation or allowing EberronÃ¢Â€Â™s peoples outÃ¢Â€Â”or the wider planesÃ¢Â€Â™ peoples in.

And then the limited ways out of Eberron would be known to extremely few. Some dragons, presumably. Maybe Erandis dÃ¢Â€Â™Vol herself. Tira Miron, at least if sheÃ¢Â€Â™s everything sheÃ¢Â€Â™s purported to be, probably would, and so would Oalian. The Aereni Undying Court, perhaps.

But if anyone knows it, then we can be damn sure that Merrix dÃ¢Â€Â™Cannith knows it. Because knowing all the secrets and darkest lore about the metaphysics of his world is pretty much Merrix dÃ¢Â€Â™CannithÃ¢Â€Â™s raison dÃ¢Â€Â™ÃƒÂªtre.

That leads us to an easy explanation: the only person known to still be creating (normal, functional, playable) warforged is Merrix dÃ¢Â€Â™Cannith, operating out of an illegal creation forge buried deep within Cannith SouthÃ¢Â€Â™s holdings in Sharn. He is known (to players and DMs, if not to any of the Eberron public) to continue producing warforged for the sake of various experiments. And if he knew about connections to FaerÃƒÂ»n? It would be weird if he didnÃ¢Â€Â™t send some through.

As for how, EberronÃ¢Â€Â™s always got eldritch machines, which are literally just Ã¢Â€Âœplot hookÃ¢Â€Â in industrial form. I prefer that over an awkward trek through EberronÃ¢Â€Â™s moonÃ¢Â€Â“lenses to get to the Great Wheel and then somehow get to Toril, because thatÃ¢Â€Â™s a rather-unlikely journey for a 1st-level character. Merrix dÃ¢Â€Â™Cannith has already known to have performed several experiments on eldritch machines, so this is no great stretch.

FaerÃƒÂ»n could reasonably produce warforged too

FaerÃƒÂ»n is just chock-full of preposterously-powerful mages, and things like golems are already things there. And given FaerÃƒÂ»nÃ¢Â€Â™s propensity for mages who sit in towers doing research without ever interacting with the rest of the world, for one of those to have pursued the idea of imbuing an artificial construct with real life, succeed, and then not tell anybody about it, is entirely in keeping with the campaign setting as a whole. In comments, nitsua60 mentions that the new Dragon Heist adventure includes new constructs, and in his answer, Matt Vincent mentions the techsmiths of Gond and their Gondsmen, which are much of the way to warforged already. So for there to be just one, or a handful, of warforged in FaerÃƒÂ»n is quite plausible.

The key thing that separates FaerÃƒÂ»n and Eberron here isnÃ¢Â€Â™t the prevalence of magic, but EberronÃ¢Â€Â™s industrialization of magic, which FaerÃƒÂ»n hasnÃ¢Â€Â™t done. As long as warforged arenÃ¢Â€Â™t disrupting FaerÃƒÂ»nian societies through large populations demanding rights and recognition, and having disruptive economic effects, then the setting of FaerÃƒÂ»n wonÃ¢Â€Â™t be threatened by their existence.

A semi-aside: connecting Eberron to the Great Wheel

As described above, you can connect Eberron to the Great Wheel, but it is awkward. Below, IÃ¢Â€Â™ll describe some of what has to be dealt with in general for this, but since youÃ¢Â€Â™re not playing in Eberron there isnÃ¢Â€Â™t really any reason you need to pin any of these answers down. FaerÃƒÂ»n doesnÃ¢Â€Â™t really care about how Eberron links up to its cosmology, just whether or not it does. For the purposes of a FaerÃƒÂ»n character, itÃ¢Â€Â™s enough to just say Ã¢Â€Âœit doesÃ¢Â€Â and leave the details of how that works out and how you explain EberronÃ¢Â€Â™s unique features unexplained (and possibly to be explored later, in play, since after all the characters themselves probably wouldnÃ¢Â€Â™t know).

Dealing with moons: Shavarath as an example

For example, Shavarath is basically the Blood War: celestials vs. demons vs. devils. In the Great Wheel, the Blood War plays out across the three planes between Hell and the Abyss, with the celestials coming from yet another set of planes, and numerous schemes and flanking maneuvers spreading out across all the planes. In Eberron, that all is confined to just Shavarath.

To make that work, you have to imagine that Shavarath is connected to some particular plane or portion of a plane in the Great WheelÃ¢Â€Â”perhaps, the place where the fighting of the Blood War is thickest. And then there are portals, perhaps, in each of the encampments for the three sides, connecting further on to the Heavens, Hells, or Abyss, making those seem like part of Shavarath from an Eberron perspective.

Afterlife: what is Dolurhh?

The other major issue is the afterlife. If EberronÃ¢Â€Â™s beliefs are true (and while thereÃ¢Â€Â™s wiggle room to make them not true, the consistency of these beliefs across many cultures and religions makes that a bit of a stretch), souls mostly donÃ¢Â€Â™t go to some befitting afterlife, as they do in the rest of the multiverse (and there is not much wiggle room on that!). Instead, they go to Dolurhh, a gray blandness where they are broken down and recycled. The Church of the Silver Flame believes that this fate can be avoided by joining the Flame in death, and some cultists of the Keeper believe that proper devotion to him and/or the Dark Six can result in oneÃ¢Â€Â™s soul being Ã¢Â€ÂœkeptÃ¢Â€Â in some other (better?) afterlife.

The beliefs of the devotees to the Flame or Keeper fit within the Great Wheel pretty well, and the lack of FaerÃƒÂ»nÃ¢Â€Â™s particular idiosyncracies (Wall of the Faithless etc.) is no big deal because that is known to be something specific to the Realms set up by Ao, the RealmsÃ¢Â€Â™ overgod. No overgod is known for Eberron, but presumably it would have one if it is just another Material Plane within the Great WheelÃ¢Â€Â”so it is possible that the unnamed overgod of Eberron has decreed that souls (usually) go to DolurhhÃ¢Â€Â”wherever that isÃ¢Â€Â”on death, instead of their usual resting place with the appropriate plane or divine realm. Dolurhh itself might be just a demiplane, for example, since it doesnÃ¢Â€Â™t have anything in it and thereÃ¢Â€Â™s no particular reason it would need to be large.

About gods in general

Talking about gods brings us to another issue: the gods themselves. Gods in Eberron work very differently from everywhere else, being so distant and aloof that you canÃ¢Â€Â™t actually be sure they exist at all.

This is pretty easily explained, though: just as Ao requires the gods of the Realms to deal special hoops to jump through (necessitating the Wall of the Faithless), the unnamed overgod of Eberron requires gods there to be extremely hands-off, or limits how powerful the gods there are allowed to be, or bans them entirely.

Regardless, those gods, if they exist, are only those willing to put up with the requirementsÃ¢Â€Â”which isnÃ¢Â€Â™t the major powers of the Great Wheel. Important deities in Eberron wouldnÃ¢Â€Â™t be worth even noticing elsewhere; theyÃ¢Â€Â™re just the only ones willing to deal with the rules. Or quite simply none are (or the rules are simply Ã¢Â€Âœno godsÃ¢Â€Â), and the faiths of Eberron are entirely in their believersÃ¢Â€Â™ imaginations.

I particularly like the section addressing: FaerÃ»n could reasonably produce warforged too As ever, another fine KR_Productions offering. +1 — 5 hours ago
@KorvinStarmast No longer the last section, but glad it worked for you. — 5 hours ago
As a bit of support for your "Faerun's lousy with mages, somebody's probably done it," there're new constructs in Dragon Heist that back your assertion up. — 4 hours ago

score 4 · Answer 6 · 2018-09-17 21:53:15Z

4e's Dragon #371 ("Origin Stories: Incorporating Races") discussed the idea of Warforged in Faerun, mentioning the following five possibilities:

a one off wizard experiment

a product of a (non-Thayan) Red Wizard Enclave

coming from Ebberon by way of Sigil

travelling from the Returned Abeir nation of Gontal (possibly from a primordial's ancient shattered metallic fortress) or

awakening after a century of slumber near Lantan

That last one is my favorite:

Prior to Lantan sinking during FaerÃƒÂ»n's Spellplague, it was a technologically advanced island (much like legendary Atlantis) that developed highly advanced clockwork mechanisms and worshipped Gond. Indeed, techsmiths of Gond could construct a mechanical Gondsman as a loyal mechanical warrior, assistant, bodyguard, and friend (confusingly, priests of Gond were sometimes called Gondsmen as well).

Also note: the new Chult map in Tomb of Annihilation shows nearby Lantan as apparently resurfaced, so it might be an excellent time for a Gondsman (or similar construct) to appear.

Quadratic Wizard 19.4k367107 · Answer 7 · 2018-09-17 21:09:37Z

Travel to Eberron is possible, but poorly documented.

There is little to no evidence in Eberron lore that anyone has travelled there from another campaign setting. Nevertheless, it may be possible.

Visiting Eberron

According to the Player's Handbook, p.5:

The worlds of the Dungeons & Dragons game exist within a vast cosmos called the multiverse, connected in strange and mysterious ways to one another and to other planes of existence [...] The legends of the Forgotten Realms, Dragonlance, Greyhawk, Dark Sun, Mystara, and Eberron settings are woven together in the fabric of the multiverse.

The DM is free to define just how, but traditionally, travel between campaign settings uses one of the following methods:

Planar travel: One may travel betwen worlds using vast and mysterious other planes, such as the Astral Plane, Plane of Shadow (Shadowfell) or the Ethereal Plane. One might step into a doorway in the planar city of Sigil and find oneself in Khorvaire.

Spelljamming: Ships are known to travel through the ether between the solar systems of worlds including those of the Forgotten Realms, Dragonlance and Greyhawk. The Spelljammer campaign setting pre-dates the release of Eberron, so there is no mention of Eberron in Spelljammer, but it remains possible.

Portals: The Forgotten Realms has many portals to other worlds, including our Earth. It is not inconceivable that one would lead to Eberron.

Warforged built in FaerÃ»n

Warforged may be built in the Forgotten Realms, as a kind of covergent evolution in design. The Realms has had many exceptionally talented mages, and it's very easy to imagine that one of them invented the Warforged, a kind of intelligent construct. Some possibilities:

Warforged were built by an ancient fallen civilization. The secrets are lost, but some warforged have recently been built from parts kits found in the ruins of their dungeons. Were they creating an army? Host bodies to be possessed by mages seeking eternal life? We may never know.

The warforged are an ancient race whose progenitors are unknown. They are all programmed with the secret knowledge of how to build new creatures of their type. They are rare and have avoided society for some time, to avoid being forced to create new members of their kind for evil uses.

A Cannith forge was shifted to Toril during the Sundering, or captured and taken there by some deity.

When Abeir and Toril were merged, it turned out that the warforged had existed on Abeir for thousands of years, where they were built as foot soldiers by a decadent civilization who did not wish to dirty their hands with the base matter of war. When the worlds split again, many warforged were left over on Toril.

Warforged have simply existed in FaerÃ»n for some time now, as a natural evolution of the traditional art of building iron golems.

Mystery

You have no memory of your origins, and your reason for adventuring is to find answers. Who created you? Are there more of your kind?

score 0 · Answer 8 · 2018-09-17 21:51:16Z

For an easy connection: a two legged journey (layover in Sigil)

Based on a recent discussion with a 5e dev, that addresses how 5e is accounting for previous lore and settings that have not yet (in this edition) gotten full treatment, your Warforged can "get there from here." Have a listen to this discussion with one of the deves.

A key to solving the problem was pointed out in this summary of the youtube linked above:

(1) Eberron's Crystal Sphere is cracking, possibly eventually allowing, say, a Spelljammer visit

and

(2) A portal, or portals, to Eberron exist in Sigil.

(Caveat: this is a dev talking, in the youtube. As far as I know this is not yet in official published material, so you have to decide if you find it authoritative enough. I do. So does the DM in a campaign I am in where we have a Warforged PC).

Sigil (originally from the Planescape setting) is mentioned in the 5e Dungeon Masters guide, as is Eberron; their existence are both accepted in 5e official material. The key piece is getting out of Eberron: due to the Crystal Sphere cosmology, this has been a tough nut to crack in previous edition lore.

How does the Warforged get from Eberron-to-Sigil-to-Faerun?

The PC is doing something on Eberron, and is

(a) fleeing from (X) and has to go through a gate.

(b) gets a mission/tasking from powerful patron and is sent through the gate

and ends up in Sigil.

Once in Sigil, PC is helped by someone, or gets tricked by someone, with the result being that they go through a gate that takes them to Faerun.

Gates are a thing in 5e, however you want to manage them. You can use spells, or magical items, as the trigger for the PC going through a gate.

There's your Warforged PC, in Faerun. (As usual, the PC's luggage got sent to Denver. 8^D )

Even less complicated: use a Wish spell

The Weave is not limited to Toril/Faerun. Given how broad wish is in terms of what it can do, and since the Weave is a common thread across settings in D&D 5e, you can cut out all of the complications and have the travel from Eberron to Faerun be the result of a wish; make the details fit your setting and your world.

Example scenario:

The PC is a low rank warrior in a large fighting
formation that is overrun by a numerically superior enemy. The last
few surviving members are on a mountain top. The warforged PC picks
up the fallen leader's sword (known to be magical) keeps on fighting
this hopeless battle as more enemy come up the hill. As the last of
his comrades fall, and the sword sticks into the shield of his latest attacker, he mutters out loud:

"I wish I were somewhere else; anywhere else!"

The sword happens to be a luck blade with one last wish remaining on it.

The PC ends up in Faerun. The sword doesn't.

I truly hope they arenÃ¢Â€Â™t exporting the Weave garbage to Eberron. Bad enough that they describe it generically rather than as Realms-specific nonsense. — 2 hours ago
@KRyan It's all part of their vague, nebulous, forgotten-realms-totally-isn't-the-default-setting multiverse stance. It's pretty safe to assume anything that isn't setting-specific to a setting other than FR is actually just FR. — 2 hours ago
@KRyan At this point, I am a little lost as to what Mearls and Crawford are up to. This is the old "stay tuned" deal ... — 48 mins ago

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Eberron and FaerÃƒÂ»n might be connected, possibly

Those connections, if they exist, are rarely used, but we have Merrix

FaerÃƒÂ»n could reasonably produce warforged too

A semi-aside: connecting Eberron to the Great Wheel

Dealing with moons: Shavarath as an example

Afterlife: what is Dolurhh?

About gods in general

Travel to Eberron is possible, but poorly documented.

Visiting Eberron

Warforged built in FaerÃ»n

Mystery

For an easy connection: a two legged journey (layover in Sigil)

How does the Warforged get from Eberron-to-Sigil-to-Faerun?

Even less complicated: use a Wish spell

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Eberron and FaerÃƒÂ»n might be connected, possibly

Those connections, if they exist, are rarely used, but we have Merrix

FaerÃƒÂ»n could reasonably produce warforged too

A semi-aside: connecting Eberron to the Great Wheel

Dealing with moons: Shavarath as an example

Afterlife: what is Dolurhh?

About gods in general

Eberron and FaerÃƒÂ»n might be connected, possibly

Those connections, if they exist, are rarely used, but we have Merrix

FaerÃƒÂ»n could reasonably produce warforged too

A semi-aside: connecting Eberron to the Great Wheel

Dealing with moons: Shavarath as an example

Afterlife: what is Dolurhh?

About gods in general

Eberron and FaerÃƒÂ»n might be connected, possibly

Those connections, if they exist, are rarely used, but we have Merrix

FaerÃƒÂ»n could reasonably produce warforged too

A semi-aside: connecting Eberron to the Great Wheel

Dealing with moons: Shavarath as an example

Afterlife: what is Dolurhh?

About gods in general

Eberron and FaerÃƒÂ»n might be connected, possibly

Those connections, if they exist, are rarely used, but we have Merrix

FaerÃƒÂ»n could reasonably produce warforged too

A semi-aside: connecting Eberron to the Great Wheel

Dealing with moons: Shavarath as an example

Afterlife: what is Dolurhh?

About gods in general

Travel to Eberron is possible, but poorly documented.

Visiting Eberron

Warforged built in FaerÃ»n

Mystery

Travel to Eberron is possible, but poorly documented.

Visiting Eberron

Warforged built in FaerÃ»n

Mystery

Travel to Eberron is possible, but poorly documented.

Visiting Eberron

Warforged built in FaerÃ»n

Mystery

Travel to Eberron is possible, but poorly documented.

Visiting Eberron

Warforged built in FaerÃ»n

Mystery

For an easy connection: a two legged journey (layover in Sigil)

How does the Warforged get from Eberron-to-Sigil-to-Faerun?

Even less complicated: use a Wish spell

For an easy connection: a two legged journey (layover in Sigil)

How does the Warforged get from Eberron-to-Sigil-to-Faerun?

Even less complicated: use a Wish spell

For an easy connection: a two legged journey (layover in Sigil)

How does the Warforged get from Eberron-to-Sigil-to-Faerun?

Even less complicated: use a Wish spell

For an easy connection: a two legged journey (layover in Sigil)

How does the Warforged get from Eberron-to-Sigil-to-Faerun?

Even less complicated: use a Wish spell

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