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I just bought this second hand bike for my partner. I'm a wheelchair user and it was dark and rainy when I collected the bike.
So... I didn't check it (facepalm) I just got the seller to put it in the boot for me.
It's been in the boot for 3 days, folded, and as far as I am aware, nothing has happened to it while it's been there.
Took it to the bike shop (and nothing happened on the way there either), and we notice a big old dent on the frame, in a bad place, which means the bike is unsafe.
Seller thinks I did it, I think she just didn't notice it. She has no photos on the affected side. It's pretty hard to spot unless you're in the lighting conditions that we were in when those photos were taken. It also looks almost like it's meant to be there - until you realise there's no reason, there's also a crease down the middle of it.
My question for you guys is... in your experience - how would a dent like this happen? Could it happen from a folded bike in the back seat going over a road hump? etc? What force would be needed to make a dent like this? It's pretty big - and would have been inside the fold if it happened in the car. Just don't see how it could have happened, while the bike was folded, in a car. But at the same time, if it has been me, I don't want to screw over the seller either.
Help!!
Thank you 
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I just bought this second hand bike for my partner. I'm a wheelchair user and it was dark and rainy when I collected the bike.
So... I didn't check it (facepalm) I just got the seller to put it in the boot for me.
It's been in the boot for 3 days, folded, and as far as I am aware, nothing has happened to it while it's been there.
Took it to the bike shop (and nothing happened on the way there either), and we notice a big old dent on the frame, in a bad place, which means the bike is unsafe.
Seller thinks I did it, I think she just didn't notice it. She has no photos on the affected side. It's pretty hard to spot unless you're in the lighting conditions that we were in when those photos were taken. It also looks almost like it's meant to be there - until you realise there's no reason, there's also a crease down the middle of it.
My question for you guys is... in your experience - how would a dent like this happen? Could it happen from a folded bike in the back seat going over a road hump? etc? What force would be needed to make a dent like this? It's pretty big - and would have been inside the fold if it happened in the car. Just don't see how it could have happened, while the bike was folded, in a car. But at the same time, if it has been me, I don't want to screw over the seller either.
Help!!
Thank you
damage
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Where does the dent end up when the bike is folded? You said, it's on the inside of the fold - is it perchance right where a tube on the other side of the fold happens to be? If that were the case, the dent might either be due to 1) the manufacturer trying to ensure enough clearance, or 2) the bike has been folded with too much force once. Mind you, you need a lot of force to create such a big dent (this is by far the strongest tube of the entire frame).
– cmaster
3 hours ago
Is the paint cracked along the edges of the dent? If it was damage as opposed to designed you might see paint flakes
– Warren Burton
58 mins ago
Hard to tell from this distance, but the dent doesn't seem to be that fatal to me. And (again, without seeing it firsthand) it could be a "feature" from manufacturing, to facilitate folding. Finally, when I see damage like this on a bike it's usually obvious that it's due to a motor vehicle accident -- the bike got bumped in the garage.
– Daniel R Hicks
14 mins ago
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I just bought this second hand bike for my partner. I'm a wheelchair user and it was dark and rainy when I collected the bike.
So... I didn't check it (facepalm) I just got the seller to put it in the boot for me.
It's been in the boot for 3 days, folded, and as far as I am aware, nothing has happened to it while it's been there.
Took it to the bike shop (and nothing happened on the way there either), and we notice a big old dent on the frame, in a bad place, which means the bike is unsafe.
Seller thinks I did it, I think she just didn't notice it. She has no photos on the affected side. It's pretty hard to spot unless you're in the lighting conditions that we were in when those photos were taken. It also looks almost like it's meant to be there - until you realise there's no reason, there's also a crease down the middle of it.
My question for you guys is... in your experience - how would a dent like this happen? Could it happen from a folded bike in the back seat going over a road hump? etc? What force would be needed to make a dent like this? It's pretty big - and would have been inside the fold if it happened in the car. Just don't see how it could have happened, while the bike was folded, in a car. But at the same time, if it has been me, I don't want to screw over the seller either.
Help!!
Thank you
damage
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I just bought this second hand bike for my partner. I'm a wheelchair user and it was dark and rainy when I collected the bike.
So... I didn't check it (facepalm) I just got the seller to put it in the boot for me.
It's been in the boot for 3 days, folded, and as far as I am aware, nothing has happened to it while it's been there.
Took it to the bike shop (and nothing happened on the way there either), and we notice a big old dent on the frame, in a bad place, which means the bike is unsafe.
Seller thinks I did it, I think she just didn't notice it. She has no photos on the affected side. It's pretty hard to spot unless you're in the lighting conditions that we were in when those photos were taken. It also looks almost like it's meant to be there - until you realise there's no reason, there's also a crease down the middle of it.
My question for you guys is... in your experience - how would a dent like this happen? Could it happen from a folded bike in the back seat going over a road hump? etc? What force would be needed to make a dent like this? It's pretty big - and would have been inside the fold if it happened in the car. Just don't see how it could have happened, while the bike was folded, in a car. But at the same time, if it has been me, I don't want to screw over the seller either.
Help!!
Thank you
damage
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Where does the dent end up when the bike is folded? You said, it's on the inside of the fold - is it perchance right where a tube on the other side of the fold happens to be? If that were the case, the dent might either be due to 1) the manufacturer trying to ensure enough clearance, or 2) the bike has been folded with too much force once. Mind you, you need a lot of force to create such a big dent (this is by far the strongest tube of the entire frame).
– cmaster
3 hours ago
Is the paint cracked along the edges of the dent? If it was damage as opposed to designed you might see paint flakes
– Warren Burton
58 mins ago
Hard to tell from this distance, but the dent doesn't seem to be that fatal to me. And (again, without seeing it firsthand) it could be a "feature" from manufacturing, to facilitate folding. Finally, when I see damage like this on a bike it's usually obvious that it's due to a motor vehicle accident -- the bike got bumped in the garage.
– Daniel R Hicks
14 mins ago
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Where does the dent end up when the bike is folded? You said, it's on the inside of the fold - is it perchance right where a tube on the other side of the fold happens to be? If that were the case, the dent might either be due to 1) the manufacturer trying to ensure enough clearance, or 2) the bike has been folded with too much force once. Mind you, you need a lot of force to create such a big dent (this is by far the strongest tube of the entire frame).
– cmaster
3 hours ago
Is the paint cracked along the edges of the dent? If it was damage as opposed to designed you might see paint flakes
– Warren Burton
58 mins ago
Hard to tell from this distance, but the dent doesn't seem to be that fatal to me. And (again, without seeing it firsthand) it could be a "feature" from manufacturing, to facilitate folding. Finally, when I see damage like this on a bike it's usually obvious that it's due to a motor vehicle accident -- the bike got bumped in the garage.
– Daniel R Hicks
14 mins ago
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Where does the dent end up when the bike is folded? You said, it's on the inside of the fold - is it perchance right where a tube on the other side of the fold happens to be? If that were the case, the dent might either be due to 1) the manufacturer trying to ensure enough clearance, or 2) the bike has been folded with too much force once. Mind you, you need a lot of force to create such a big dent (this is by far the strongest tube of the entire frame).
– cmaster
3 hours ago
Where does the dent end up when the bike is folded? You said, it's on the inside of the fold - is it perchance right where a tube on the other side of the fold happens to be? If that were the case, the dent might either be due to 1) the manufacturer trying to ensure enough clearance, or 2) the bike has been folded with too much force once. Mind you, you need a lot of force to create such a big dent (this is by far the strongest tube of the entire frame).
– cmaster
3 hours ago
Is the paint cracked along the edges of the dent? If it was damage as opposed to designed you might see paint flakes
– Warren Burton
58 mins ago
Is the paint cracked along the edges of the dent? If it was damage as opposed to designed you might see paint flakes
– Warren Burton
58 mins ago
Hard to tell from this distance, but the dent doesn't seem to be that fatal to me. And (again, without seeing it firsthand) it could be a "feature" from manufacturing, to facilitate folding. Finally, when I see damage like this on a bike it's usually obvious that it's due to a motor vehicle accident -- the bike got bumped in the garage.
– Daniel R Hicks
14 mins ago
Hard to tell from this distance, but the dent doesn't seem to be that fatal to me. And (again, without seeing it firsthand) it could be a "feature" from manufacturing, to facilitate folding. Finally, when I see damage like this on a bike it's usually obvious that it's due to a motor vehicle accident -- the bike got bumped in the garage.
– Daniel R Hicks
14 mins ago
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I think you'll find that the handlebar 'stem' folds to the left, and will line up with the dent when folded.
My best guess is that the handlebar was folded then, pressed into the frame, perhaps be the wheel and fork being forcibly turned to the left.
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I think you'll find that the handlebar 'stem' folds to the left, and will line up with the dent when folded.
My best guess is that the handlebar was folded then, pressed into the frame, perhaps be the wheel and fork being forcibly turned to the left.
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I think you'll find that the handlebar 'stem' folds to the left, and will line up with the dent when folded.
My best guess is that the handlebar was folded then, pressed into the frame, perhaps be the wheel and fork being forcibly turned to the left.
answered 1 hour ago
Argenti Apparatus
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up vote
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I think you'll find that the handlebar 'stem' folds to the left, and will line up with the dent when folded.
My best guess is that the handlebar was folded then, pressed into the frame, perhaps be the wheel and fork being forcibly turned to the left.
answered 1 hour ago
Argenti Apparatus
29.4k23376
I think you'll find that the handlebar 'stem' folds to the left, and will line up with the dent when folded.
My best guess is that the handlebar was folded then, pressed into the frame, perhaps be the wheel and fork being forcibly turned to the left.
answered 1 hour ago
Argenti Apparatus
29.4k23376
answered 1 hour ago
Argenti Apparatus
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answered 1 hour ago
Argenti Apparatus
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answered 1 hour ago
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Where does the dent end up when the bike is folded? You said, it's on the inside of the fold - is it perchance right where a tube on the other side of the fold happens to be? If that were the case, the dent might either be due to 1) the manufacturer trying to ensure enough clearance, or 2) the bike has been folded with too much force once. Mind you, you need a lot of force to create such a big dent (this is by far the strongest tube of the entire frame).
– cmaster
3 hours ago
Is the paint cracked along the edges of the dent? If it was damage as opposed to designed you might see paint flakes
– Warren Burton
58 mins ago
Hard to tell from this distance, but the dent doesn't seem to be that fatal to me. And (again, without seeing it firsthand) it could be a "feature" from manufacturing, to facilitate folding. Finally, when I see damage like this on a bike it's usually obvious that it's due to a motor vehicle accident -- the bike got bumped in the garage.
– Daniel R Hicks
14 mins ago