Calculate the limit (Squeeze Theorem?)

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I have to calculate the limit of this formula as $nto infty$.



$$a_n = frac1sqrtnbigl(frac1sqrtn+1+cdots+frac1sqrt2nbigl)$$



I tried the Squeeze Theorem, but I get something like this:



$$frac1sqrt2leftarrowfracnsqrt2n^2lefrac1sqrtnbigl(frac1sqrtn+1+cdots+frac1sqrt2nbigl) le fracnsqrtn^2+nto1$$



As you can see, the limits of two other sequences aren't the same. Can you give me some hints? Thank you in advance.










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    I have to calculate the limit of this formula as $nto infty$.



    $$a_n = frac1sqrtnbigl(frac1sqrtn+1+cdots+frac1sqrt2nbigl)$$



    I tried the Squeeze Theorem, but I get something like this:



    $$frac1sqrt2leftarrowfracnsqrt2n^2lefrac1sqrtnbigl(frac1sqrtn+1+cdots+frac1sqrt2nbigl) le fracnsqrtn^2+nto1$$



    As you can see, the limits of two other sequences aren't the same. Can you give me some hints? Thank you in advance.










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      I have to calculate the limit of this formula as $nto infty$.



      $$a_n = frac1sqrtnbigl(frac1sqrtn+1+cdots+frac1sqrt2nbigl)$$



      I tried the Squeeze Theorem, but I get something like this:



      $$frac1sqrt2leftarrowfracnsqrt2n^2lefrac1sqrtnbigl(frac1sqrtn+1+cdots+frac1sqrt2nbigl) le fracnsqrtn^2+nto1$$



      As you can see, the limits of two other sequences aren't the same. Can you give me some hints? Thank you in advance.










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      I have to calculate the limit of this formula as $nto infty$.



      $$a_n = frac1sqrtnbigl(frac1sqrtn+1+cdots+frac1sqrt2nbigl)$$



      I tried the Squeeze Theorem, but I get something like this:



      $$frac1sqrt2leftarrowfracnsqrt2n^2lefrac1sqrtnbigl(frac1sqrtn+1+cdots+frac1sqrt2nbigl) le fracnsqrtn^2+nto1$$



      As you can see, the limits of two other sequences aren't the same. Can you give me some hints? Thank you in advance.







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          Rearrange it as
          $$ frac1nleft(sqrtfracnn+1+sqrtfracnn+2+ldots+sqrtfracnn+1right) = frac1nsum_k=1^nfrac1sqrt1+frackn$$
          which is a Riemann sum for
          $$ int_0^1fracdxsqrt1+x=2sqrt2-2.$$
          Since $frac1sqrt1+x$ is a convex function on $[0,1]$, the Hermite-Hadamard and Karamata's inequalities give us that $a_n_ngeq 1$ is an increasing sequence convergent to $2sqrt2-2$. Additionally it is not difficult to check that $a_n= 2sqrt2-2-Thetaleft(frac1nright)$ as $nto +infty$.






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            As an alternative by Stolz-Cesaro



            $$fracb_nc_n = fracfrac1sqrtn+1+cdots+frac1sqrt2nsqrt n$$



            $$fracb_n+1-b_nc_n+1-c_n = fracfrac1sqrt2n+2+frac1sqrt2n+1-frac1sqrtn+1sqrtn+1-sqrt n$$



            and



            $$fracfrac1sqrt2n+2+frac1sqrt2n+1-frac1sqrtn+1sqrtn+1-sqrt nfracsqrtn+1+sqrt nsqrtn+1+sqrt n=$$



            $$fracsqrtn+1+sqrt nsqrt2n+2+fracsqrtn+1+sqrt nsqrt2n+1-fracsqrtn+1+sqrt nsqrtn+1tofrac4sqrt 2-2=2sqrt 2-2$$






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              for a decreasing function such as $1/sqrt x$ with $x$ positive, a simple picture shows
              $$ int_a^b+1 ; f(x) ; dx < sum_k=a^b f(k) < int_a-1^b ; f(x) ; dx $$
              $$ int_n+1^2n+1 ; frac1sqrt x ; dx < sum_k=n+1^2n frac1sqrt k < int_n^2n ; frac1sqrt x ; dx $$
              getting there
              $$ 2 sqrt 2n+1 - 2 sqrt n+1 < sum_k=n+1^2n frac1sqrt k < 2 sqrt 2n - 2 sqrt n $$
              $$ 2 sqrt 2+frac1n - 2 sqrt 1+frac1n < frac1sqrt n sum_k=n+1^2n frac1sqrt k < 2 sqrt 2 - 2 sqrt 1 $$






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                Rearrange it as
                $$ frac1nleft(sqrtfracnn+1+sqrtfracnn+2+ldots+sqrtfracnn+1right) = frac1nsum_k=1^nfrac1sqrt1+frackn$$
                which is a Riemann sum for
                $$ int_0^1fracdxsqrt1+x=2sqrt2-2.$$
                Since $frac1sqrt1+x$ is a convex function on $[0,1]$, the Hermite-Hadamard and Karamata's inequalities give us that $a_n_ngeq 1$ is an increasing sequence convergent to $2sqrt2-2$. Additionally it is not difficult to check that $a_n= 2sqrt2-2-Thetaleft(frac1nright)$ as $nto +infty$.






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                  Rearrange it as
                  $$ frac1nleft(sqrtfracnn+1+sqrtfracnn+2+ldots+sqrtfracnn+1right) = frac1nsum_k=1^nfrac1sqrt1+frackn$$
                  which is a Riemann sum for
                  $$ int_0^1fracdxsqrt1+x=2sqrt2-2.$$
                  Since $frac1sqrt1+x$ is a convex function on $[0,1]$, the Hermite-Hadamard and Karamata's inequalities give us that $a_n_ngeq 1$ is an increasing sequence convergent to $2sqrt2-2$. Additionally it is not difficult to check that $a_n= 2sqrt2-2-Thetaleft(frac1nright)$ as $nto +infty$.






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                    Rearrange it as
                    $$ frac1nleft(sqrtfracnn+1+sqrtfracnn+2+ldots+sqrtfracnn+1right) = frac1nsum_k=1^nfrac1sqrt1+frackn$$
                    which is a Riemann sum for
                    $$ int_0^1fracdxsqrt1+x=2sqrt2-2.$$
                    Since $frac1sqrt1+x$ is a convex function on $[0,1]$, the Hermite-Hadamard and Karamata's inequalities give us that $a_n_ngeq 1$ is an increasing sequence convergent to $2sqrt2-2$. Additionally it is not difficult to check that $a_n= 2sqrt2-2-Thetaleft(frac1nright)$ as $nto +infty$.






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                    Rearrange it as
                    $$ frac1nleft(sqrtfracnn+1+sqrtfracnn+2+ldots+sqrtfracnn+1right) = frac1nsum_k=1^nfrac1sqrt1+frackn$$
                    which is a Riemann sum for
                    $$ int_0^1fracdxsqrt1+x=2sqrt2-2.$$
                    Since $frac1sqrt1+x$ is a convex function on $[0,1]$, the Hermite-Hadamard and Karamata's inequalities give us that $a_n_ngeq 1$ is an increasing sequence convergent to $2sqrt2-2$. Additionally it is not difficult to check that $a_n= 2sqrt2-2-Thetaleft(frac1nright)$ as $nto +infty$.







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                        As an alternative by Stolz-Cesaro



                        $$fracb_nc_n = fracfrac1sqrtn+1+cdots+frac1sqrt2nsqrt n$$



                        $$fracb_n+1-b_nc_n+1-c_n = fracfrac1sqrt2n+2+frac1sqrt2n+1-frac1sqrtn+1sqrtn+1-sqrt n$$



                        and



                        $$fracfrac1sqrt2n+2+frac1sqrt2n+1-frac1sqrtn+1sqrtn+1-sqrt nfracsqrtn+1+sqrt nsqrtn+1+sqrt n=$$



                        $$fracsqrtn+1+sqrt nsqrt2n+2+fracsqrtn+1+sqrt nsqrt2n+1-fracsqrtn+1+sqrt nsqrtn+1tofrac4sqrt 2-2=2sqrt 2-2$$






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                          As an alternative by Stolz-Cesaro



                          $$fracb_nc_n = fracfrac1sqrtn+1+cdots+frac1sqrt2nsqrt n$$



                          $$fracb_n+1-b_nc_n+1-c_n = fracfrac1sqrt2n+2+frac1sqrt2n+1-frac1sqrtn+1sqrtn+1-sqrt n$$



                          and



                          $$fracfrac1sqrt2n+2+frac1sqrt2n+1-frac1sqrtn+1sqrtn+1-sqrt nfracsqrtn+1+sqrt nsqrtn+1+sqrt n=$$



                          $$fracsqrtn+1+sqrt nsqrt2n+2+fracsqrtn+1+sqrt nsqrt2n+1-fracsqrtn+1+sqrt nsqrtn+1tofrac4sqrt 2-2=2sqrt 2-2$$






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                            As an alternative by Stolz-Cesaro



                            $$fracb_nc_n = fracfrac1sqrtn+1+cdots+frac1sqrt2nsqrt n$$



                            $$fracb_n+1-b_nc_n+1-c_n = fracfrac1sqrt2n+2+frac1sqrt2n+1-frac1sqrtn+1sqrtn+1-sqrt n$$



                            and



                            $$fracfrac1sqrt2n+2+frac1sqrt2n+1-frac1sqrtn+1sqrtn+1-sqrt nfracsqrtn+1+sqrt nsqrtn+1+sqrt n=$$



                            $$fracsqrtn+1+sqrt nsqrt2n+2+fracsqrtn+1+sqrt nsqrt2n+1-fracsqrtn+1+sqrt nsqrtn+1tofrac4sqrt 2-2=2sqrt 2-2$$






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                            As an alternative by Stolz-Cesaro



                            $$fracb_nc_n = fracfrac1sqrtn+1+cdots+frac1sqrt2nsqrt n$$



                            $$fracb_n+1-b_nc_n+1-c_n = fracfrac1sqrt2n+2+frac1sqrt2n+1-frac1sqrtn+1sqrtn+1-sqrt n$$



                            and



                            $$fracfrac1sqrt2n+2+frac1sqrt2n+1-frac1sqrtn+1sqrtn+1-sqrt nfracsqrtn+1+sqrt nsqrtn+1+sqrt n=$$



                            $$fracsqrtn+1+sqrt nsqrt2n+2+fracsqrtn+1+sqrt nsqrt2n+1-fracsqrtn+1+sqrt nsqrtn+1tofrac4sqrt 2-2=2sqrt 2-2$$







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                                for a decreasing function such as $1/sqrt x$ with $x$ positive, a simple picture shows
                                $$ int_a^b+1 ; f(x) ; dx < sum_k=a^b f(k) < int_a-1^b ; f(x) ; dx $$
                                $$ int_n+1^2n+1 ; frac1sqrt x ; dx < sum_k=n+1^2n frac1sqrt k < int_n^2n ; frac1sqrt x ; dx $$
                                getting there
                                $$ 2 sqrt 2n+1 - 2 sqrt n+1 < sum_k=n+1^2n frac1sqrt k < 2 sqrt 2n - 2 sqrt n $$
                                $$ 2 sqrt 2+frac1n - 2 sqrt 1+frac1n < frac1sqrt n sum_k=n+1^2n frac1sqrt k < 2 sqrt 2 - 2 sqrt 1 $$






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                                  for a decreasing function such as $1/sqrt x$ with $x$ positive, a simple picture shows
                                  $$ int_a^b+1 ; f(x) ; dx < sum_k=a^b f(k) < int_a-1^b ; f(x) ; dx $$
                                  $$ int_n+1^2n+1 ; frac1sqrt x ; dx < sum_k=n+1^2n frac1sqrt k < int_n^2n ; frac1sqrt x ; dx $$
                                  getting there
                                  $$ 2 sqrt 2n+1 - 2 sqrt n+1 < sum_k=n+1^2n frac1sqrt k < 2 sqrt 2n - 2 sqrt n $$
                                  $$ 2 sqrt 2+frac1n - 2 sqrt 1+frac1n < frac1sqrt n sum_k=n+1^2n frac1sqrt k < 2 sqrt 2 - 2 sqrt 1 $$






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                                    for a decreasing function such as $1/sqrt x$ with $x$ positive, a simple picture shows
                                    $$ int_a^b+1 ; f(x) ; dx < sum_k=a^b f(k) < int_a-1^b ; f(x) ; dx $$
                                    $$ int_n+1^2n+1 ; frac1sqrt x ; dx < sum_k=n+1^2n frac1sqrt k < int_n^2n ; frac1sqrt x ; dx $$
                                    getting there
                                    $$ 2 sqrt 2n+1 - 2 sqrt n+1 < sum_k=n+1^2n frac1sqrt k < 2 sqrt 2n - 2 sqrt n $$
                                    $$ 2 sqrt 2+frac1n - 2 sqrt 1+frac1n < frac1sqrt n sum_k=n+1^2n frac1sqrt k < 2 sqrt 2 - 2 sqrt 1 $$






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                                    for a decreasing function such as $1/sqrt x$ with $x$ positive, a simple picture shows
                                    $$ int_a^b+1 ; f(x) ; dx < sum_k=a^b f(k) < int_a-1^b ; f(x) ; dx $$
                                    $$ int_n+1^2n+1 ; frac1sqrt x ; dx < sum_k=n+1^2n frac1sqrt k < int_n^2n ; frac1sqrt x ; dx $$
                                    getting there
                                    $$ 2 sqrt 2n+1 - 2 sqrt n+1 < sum_k=n+1^2n frac1sqrt k < 2 sqrt 2n - 2 sqrt n $$
                                    $$ 2 sqrt 2+frac1n - 2 sqrt 1+frac1n < frac1sqrt n sum_k=n+1^2n frac1sqrt k < 2 sqrt 2 - 2 sqrt 1 $$







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