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Does fatigue condition affect spell casting?
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Does anyone know if a spell caster suffers any penalties if he tries to use magic while fatigued? I can't find anything about this under conditions.
I just feel it's a bit odd that a fatigued player (or exhausted) can still cast spell even without a concentration check.
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Does anyone know if a spell caster suffers any penalties if he tries to use magic while fatigued? I can't find anything about this under conditions.
I just feel it's a bit odd that a fatigued player (or exhausted) can still cast spell even without a concentration check.
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Does anyone know if a spell caster suffers any penalties if he tries to use magic while fatigued? I can't find anything about this under conditions.
I just feel it's a bit odd that a fatigued player (or exhausted) can still cast spell even without a concentration check.
pathfinder spells conditions
edited 5 hours ago
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Does anyone know if a spell caster suffers any penalties if he tries to use magic while fatigued? I can't find anything about this under conditions.
I just feel it's a bit odd that a fatigued player (or exhausted) can still cast spell even without a concentration check.
pathfinder spells conditions
pathfinder spells conditions
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No, fatigue does not generally effect spellcasting
As you've correctly noted, neither the fatigued or exhausted conditions specify any penalty which applies to most attempts to cast spells, and there is no mention of fatigue affecting spellcasting in the concentration rules. The most significant indirect effect is that the strength/dexterity penalty will hamper the caster's ability to accurately target spells that require attack rolls, but otherwise their casting ability is unaffected by fatigue.
The game represents tiredness with the fatigued/exhausted conditions, and these are seemingly representative of physical, rather than mental, exhaustion; though they hamper one's co-ordination and strength, they don't seem to have any impact on a character's mental capacities. An exhausted character has no problems concentrating, recalling knowledge, interacting with others, etc. This is obviously not a perfect reflection of what tiredness does to people in the real world, but nonetheless that's the rules as they are.
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@KamilDrakari no, in 3e/PF there's no concept of a "spell attack". Attack rolls are always based on strength (melee) or dexterity (ranged) unless an ability specifically overrides that - attacks caused by spells are no exception. See for instance this question.
– Carcer
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thanks for the clarification then, seems weird to me but I guess I've just been too focused on 5e lately.
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No, fatigue does not generally effect spellcasting
As you've correctly noted, neither the fatigued or exhausted conditions specify any penalty which applies to most attempts to cast spells, and there is no mention of fatigue affecting spellcasting in the concentration rules. The most significant indirect effect is that the strength/dexterity penalty will hamper the caster's ability to accurately target spells that require attack rolls, but otherwise their casting ability is unaffected by fatigue.
The game represents tiredness with the fatigued/exhausted conditions, and these are seemingly representative of physical, rather than mental, exhaustion; though they hamper one's co-ordination and strength, they don't seem to have any impact on a character's mental capacities. An exhausted character has no problems concentrating, recalling knowledge, interacting with others, etc. This is obviously not a perfect reflection of what tiredness does to people in the real world, but nonetheless that's the rules as they are.
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Carcer
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@KamilDrakari no, in 3e/PF there's no concept of a "spell attack". Attack rolls are always based on strength (melee) or dexterity (ranged) unless an ability specifically overrides that - attacks caused by spells are no exception. See for instance this question.
– Carcer
54 mins ago
thanks for the clarification then, seems weird to me but I guess I've just been too focused on 5e lately.
– Kamil Drakari
52 mins ago
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No, fatigue does not generally effect spellcasting
As you've correctly noted, neither the fatigued or exhausted conditions specify any penalty which applies to most attempts to cast spells, and there is no mention of fatigue affecting spellcasting in the concentration rules. The most significant indirect effect is that the strength/dexterity penalty will hamper the caster's ability to accurately target spells that require attack rolls, but otherwise their casting ability is unaffected by fatigue.
The game represents tiredness with the fatigued/exhausted conditions, and these are seemingly representative of physical, rather than mental, exhaustion; though they hamper one's co-ordination and strength, they don't seem to have any impact on a character's mental capacities. An exhausted character has no problems concentrating, recalling knowledge, interacting with others, etc. This is obviously not a perfect reflection of what tiredness does to people in the real world, but nonetheless that's the rules as they are.
answered 4 hours ago
Carcer
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@KamilDrakari no, in 3e/PF there's no concept of a "spell attack". Attack rolls are always based on strength (melee) or dexterity (ranged) unless an ability specifically overrides that - attacks caused by spells are no exception. See for instance this question.
– Carcer
54 mins ago
thanks for the clarification then, seems weird to me but I guess I've just been too focused on 5e lately.
– Kamil Drakari
52 mins ago
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No, fatigue does not generally effect spellcasting
As you've correctly noted, neither the fatigued or exhausted conditions specify any penalty which applies to most attempts to cast spells, and there is no mention of fatigue affecting spellcasting in the concentration rules. The most significant indirect effect is that the strength/dexterity penalty will hamper the caster's ability to accurately target spells that require attack rolls, but otherwise their casting ability is unaffected by fatigue.
The game represents tiredness with the fatigued/exhausted conditions, and these are seemingly representative of physical, rather than mental, exhaustion; though they hamper one's co-ordination and strength, they don't seem to have any impact on a character's mental capacities. An exhausted character has no problems concentrating, recalling knowledge, interacting with others, etc. This is obviously not a perfect reflection of what tiredness does to people in the real world, but nonetheless that's the rules as they are.
answered 4 hours ago
Carcer
18.5k247103
No, fatigue does not generally effect spellcasting
As you've correctly noted, neither the fatigued or exhausted conditions specify any penalty which applies to most attempts to cast spells, and there is no mention of fatigue affecting spellcasting in the concentration rules. The most significant indirect effect is that the strength/dexterity penalty will hamper the caster's ability to accurately target spells that require attack rolls, but otherwise their casting ability is unaffected by fatigue.
The game represents tiredness with the fatigued/exhausted conditions, and these are seemingly representative of physical, rather than mental, exhaustion; though they hamper one's co-ordination and strength, they don't seem to have any impact on a character's mental capacities. An exhausted character has no problems concentrating, recalling knowledge, interacting with others, etc. This is obviously not a perfect reflection of what tiredness does to people in the real world, but nonetheless that's the rules as they are.
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Carcer
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answered 4 hours ago
Carcer
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answered 4 hours ago
Carcer
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answered 4 hours ago
Carcer
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@KamilDrakari no, in 3e/PF there's no concept of a "spell attack". Attack rolls are always based on strength (melee) or dexterity (ranged) unless an ability specifically overrides that - attacks caused by spells are no exception. See for instance this question.
– Carcer
54 mins ago
thanks for the clarification then, seems weird to me but I guess I've just been too focused on 5e lately.
– Kamil Drakari
52 mins ago
add a comment |Â
@KamilDrakari no, in 3e/PF there's no concept of a "spell attack". Attack rolls are always based on strength (melee) or dexterity (ranged) unless an ability specifically overrides that - attacks caused by spells are no exception. See for instance this question.
– Carcer
54 mins ago
thanks for the clarification then, seems weird to me but I guess I've just been too focused on 5e lately.
– Kamil Drakari
52 mins ago
@KamilDrakari no, in 3e/PF there's no concept of a "spell attack". Attack rolls are always based on strength (melee) or dexterity (ranged) unless an ability specifically overrides that - attacks caused by spells are no exception. See for instance this question.
– Carcer
54 mins ago
@KamilDrakari no, in 3e/PF there's no concept of a "spell attack". Attack rolls are always based on strength (melee) or dexterity (ranged) unless an ability specifically overrides that - attacks caused by spells are no exception. See for instance this question.
– Carcer
54 mins ago
thanks for the clarification then, seems weird to me but I guess I've just been too focused on 5e lately.
– Kamil Drakari
52 mins ago
thanks for the clarification then, seems weird to me but I guess I've just been too focused on 5e lately.
– Kamil Drakari
52 mins ago
add a comment |Â
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