Which dual lands count as having the name of their respective basic land types for certain effects?
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For example, let's take a look at Arbor Elf, which has the ability "T: Untap target Forest"
Which types of dual lands count as a Forest and thus can be untapped by Arbor Elf?
Is there a comprehensive heuristic I can use for this? I've never actually seen the rule anywhere and these lands never mention that fact, nor have I seen it in errata or card rulings. But apparently it's a thing because I heard it mentioned in forums and cards that mention basic lands have worked on some dual lands before in MTGA.
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For example, let's take a look at Arbor Elf, which has the ability "T: Untap target Forest"
Which types of dual lands count as a Forest and thus can be untapped by Arbor Elf?
Is there a comprehensive heuristic I can use for this? I've never actually seen the rule anywhere and these lands never mention that fact, nor have I seen it in errata or card rulings. But apparently it's a thing because I heard it mentioned in forums and cards that mention basic lands have worked on some dual lands before in MTGA.
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For example, let's take a look at Arbor Elf, which has the ability "T: Untap target Forest"
Which types of dual lands count as a Forest and thus can be untapped by Arbor Elf?
Is there a comprehensive heuristic I can use for this? I've never actually seen the rule anywhere and these lands never mention that fact, nor have I seen it in errata or card rulings. But apparently it's a thing because I heard it mentioned in forums and cards that mention basic lands have worked on some dual lands before in MTGA.
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For example, let's take a look at Arbor Elf, which has the ability "T: Untap target Forest"
Which types of dual lands count as a Forest and thus can be untapped by Arbor Elf?
Is there a comprehensive heuristic I can use for this? I've never actually seen the rule anywhere and these lands never mention that fact, nor have I seen it in errata or card rulings. But apparently it's a thing because I heard it mentioned in forums and cards that mention basic lands have worked on some dual lands before in MTGA.
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Forest is a Subtype for the card Type "Land".
Thus, Arbor Elf can untap any land with the subtype Forest. Which include the Basic Land, Forest, its respective Snow-Covered version and some non-basic lands that include this subtype in their text line.
This Gatherer search shows a list of 17 lands with the subtype Forest:
These are all the lands that can be untapped by Arbor Elf. Note that some cards like Song of the Dryads can turn other permanent into Forests, thus allowing it to be untapped by Arbor Elf.
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Worth noting that Forest is also the name of a card in addition to being a land subtype. Things that look for cards named Forest will not work on those other lands.
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There's an assumption you're making that's a bit off here, that assumption being that you are looking for something by name. Voltaic Key has the ability "1, T: Untap target artifact." that does not tap a card named artifact, but a card with the type artifact.
In the case of Arbor Elf, untap target forest refers to cards with the subtype forest, Dual lands such as Breeding Pool and Scattered Groves both have forest on their type line, and can be targeted. Even a few single colored non basic lands like Dryad Arbor and Sapseep Forest count, as they have forest in their type line.
In addition to cards like this, there are effects that change the type of land, or turn things into lands, effects like Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth would make all lands swamps, so they would count for anything that looks at swamps, such as Cabal Coffers, and Life and Limb makes all creatures with the subtype saproling into forests (and vice versa) turning them all into creature land - saproling forest.
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Forest is a Subtype for the card Type "Land".
Thus, Arbor Elf can untap any land with the subtype Forest. Which include the Basic Land, Forest, its respective Snow-Covered version and some non-basic lands that include this subtype in their text line.
This Gatherer search shows a list of 17 lands with the subtype Forest:
These are all the lands that can be untapped by Arbor Elf. Note that some cards like Song of the Dryads can turn other permanent into Forests, thus allowing it to be untapped by Arbor Elf.
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Worth noting that Forest is also the name of a card in addition to being a land subtype. Things that look for cards named Forest will not work on those other lands.
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Forest is a Subtype for the card Type "Land".
Thus, Arbor Elf can untap any land with the subtype Forest. Which include the Basic Land, Forest, its respective Snow-Covered version and some non-basic lands that include this subtype in their text line.
This Gatherer search shows a list of 17 lands with the subtype Forest:
These are all the lands that can be untapped by Arbor Elf. Note that some cards like Song of the Dryads can turn other permanent into Forests, thus allowing it to be untapped by Arbor Elf.
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Worth noting that Forest is also the name of a card in addition to being a land subtype. Things that look for cards named Forest will not work on those other lands.
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Forest is a Subtype for the card Type "Land".
Thus, Arbor Elf can untap any land with the subtype Forest. Which include the Basic Land, Forest, its respective Snow-Covered version and some non-basic lands that include this subtype in their text line.
This Gatherer search shows a list of 17 lands with the subtype Forest:
These are all the lands that can be untapped by Arbor Elf. Note that some cards like Song of the Dryads can turn other permanent into Forests, thus allowing it to be untapped by Arbor Elf.
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Forest is a Subtype for the card Type "Land".
Thus, Arbor Elf can untap any land with the subtype Forest. Which include the Basic Land, Forest, its respective Snow-Covered version and some non-basic lands that include this subtype in their text line.
This Gatherer search shows a list of 17 lands with the subtype Forest:
These are all the lands that can be untapped by Arbor Elf. Note that some cards like Song of the Dryads can turn other permanent into Forests, thus allowing it to be untapped by Arbor Elf.
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Worth noting that Forest is also the name of a card in addition to being a land subtype. Things that look for cards named Forest will not work on those other lands.
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Worth noting that Forest is also the name of a card in addition to being a land subtype. Things that look for cards named Forest will not work on those other lands.
â GendoIkari
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Worth noting that Forest is also the name of a card in addition to being a land subtype. Things that look for cards named Forest will not work on those other lands.
â GendoIkari
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Worth noting that Forest is also the name of a card in addition to being a land subtype. Things that look for cards named Forest will not work on those other lands.
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There's an assumption you're making that's a bit off here, that assumption being that you are looking for something by name. Voltaic Key has the ability "1, T: Untap target artifact." that does not tap a card named artifact, but a card with the type artifact.
In the case of Arbor Elf, untap target forest refers to cards with the subtype forest, Dual lands such as Breeding Pool and Scattered Groves both have forest on their type line, and can be targeted. Even a few single colored non basic lands like Dryad Arbor and Sapseep Forest count, as they have forest in their type line.
In addition to cards like this, there are effects that change the type of land, or turn things into lands, effects like Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth would make all lands swamps, so they would count for anything that looks at swamps, such as Cabal Coffers, and Life and Limb makes all creatures with the subtype saproling into forests (and vice versa) turning them all into creature land - saproling forest.
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There's an assumption you're making that's a bit off here, that assumption being that you are looking for something by name. Voltaic Key has the ability "1, T: Untap target artifact." that does not tap a card named artifact, but a card with the type artifact.
In the case of Arbor Elf, untap target forest refers to cards with the subtype forest, Dual lands such as Breeding Pool and Scattered Groves both have forest on their type line, and can be targeted. Even a few single colored non basic lands like Dryad Arbor and Sapseep Forest count, as they have forest in their type line.
In addition to cards like this, there are effects that change the type of land, or turn things into lands, effects like Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth would make all lands swamps, so they would count for anything that looks at swamps, such as Cabal Coffers, and Life and Limb makes all creatures with the subtype saproling into forests (and vice versa) turning them all into creature land - saproling forest.
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There's an assumption you're making that's a bit off here, that assumption being that you are looking for something by name. Voltaic Key has the ability "1, T: Untap target artifact." that does not tap a card named artifact, but a card with the type artifact.
In the case of Arbor Elf, untap target forest refers to cards with the subtype forest, Dual lands such as Breeding Pool and Scattered Groves both have forest on their type line, and can be targeted. Even a few single colored non basic lands like Dryad Arbor and Sapseep Forest count, as they have forest in their type line.
In addition to cards like this, there are effects that change the type of land, or turn things into lands, effects like Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth would make all lands swamps, so they would count for anything that looks at swamps, such as Cabal Coffers, and Life and Limb makes all creatures with the subtype saproling into forests (and vice versa) turning them all into creature land - saproling forest.
There's an assumption you're making that's a bit off here, that assumption being that you are looking for something by name. Voltaic Key has the ability "1, T: Untap target artifact." that does not tap a card named artifact, but a card with the type artifact.
In the case of Arbor Elf, untap target forest refers to cards with the subtype forest, Dual lands such as Breeding Pool and Scattered Groves both have forest on their type line, and can be targeted. Even a few single colored non basic lands like Dryad Arbor and Sapseep Forest count, as they have forest in their type line.
In addition to cards like this, there are effects that change the type of land, or turn things into lands, effects like Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth would make all lands swamps, so they would count for anything that looks at swamps, such as Cabal Coffers, and Life and Limb makes all creatures with the subtype saproling into forests (and vice versa) turning them all into creature land - saproling forest.
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