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I want to start this by saying that I am very new to DnD as a whole. This is my first campaign and I am playing a Lizardfolk paladin (it works in this story); the problem player is playing a gnome or halfling bard (don't remember).
I think my biggest issue with him is that for example when we fought a Horned Devil he was saying that we killed the devil because he had looked up the stats and counted the damage. Even though the DM said the devil was still alive.
A different time we where fighting hill giants in a castle and the giants where in a big hall. when we had killed 2 giants and the last 1 was running away the Bard was arguing that the giants movement speed should be halved since it was a gargantuan creature moving through a small space. This is one of many examples where he brings up rules when it is an advantage to him.
In general I also feel like he metagames a lot, we had to charge up a teleportation circle with life force and he immediately asks who has the most health instead of who would be willing to do it (my character would not agree to help). I have already talked to the DM and he said he had already talked to the Bard.
My question for you guys is: Am I overreacting? I am new to DnD and maybe this is not a big deal, secondly if it is a problem what should I do during session when this happens?
Sorry for bad grammar and spelling. I have dyslexia and English is not my first language. Thanks for your insight!
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I want to start this by saying that I am very new to DnD as a whole. This is my first campaign and I am playing a Lizardfolk paladin (it works in this story); the problem player is playing a gnome or halfling bard (don't remember).
I think my biggest issue with him is that for example when we fought a Horned Devil he was saying that we killed the devil because he had looked up the stats and counted the damage. Even though the DM said the devil was still alive.
A different time we where fighting hill giants in a castle and the giants where in a big hall. when we had killed 2 giants and the last 1 was running away the Bard was arguing that the giants movement speed should be halved since it was a gargantuan creature moving through a small space. This is one of many examples where he brings up rules when it is an advantage to him.
In general I also feel like he metagames a lot, we had to charge up a teleportation circle with life force and he immediately asks who has the most health instead of who would be willing to do it (my character would not agree to help). I have already talked to the DM and he said he had already talked to the Bard.
My question for you guys is: Am I overreacting? I am new to DnD and maybe this is not a big deal, secondly if it is a problem what should I do during session when this happens?
Sorry for bad grammar and spelling. I have dyslexia and English is not my first language. Thanks for your insight!
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Hi, and Welcome to RPG.SE! Take the tour when you get a change to find out how things work. No problems about the grammar and and spelling, I've fixed that up for you (in fact, I don't think there were any spelling errors at all). I've also added the problem-players tag, since I'd say the Bard you're describing sounds like a problem player to me. Have fun and hope you enjoy the site!
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I want to start this by saying that I am very new to DnD as a whole. This is my first campaign and I am playing a Lizardfolk paladin (it works in this story); the problem player is playing a gnome or halfling bard (don't remember).
I think my biggest issue with him is that for example when we fought a Horned Devil he was saying that we killed the devil because he had looked up the stats and counted the damage. Even though the DM said the devil was still alive.
A different time we where fighting hill giants in a castle and the giants where in a big hall. when we had killed 2 giants and the last 1 was running away the Bard was arguing that the giants movement speed should be halved since it was a gargantuan creature moving through a small space. This is one of many examples where he brings up rules when it is an advantage to him.
In general I also feel like he metagames a lot, we had to charge up a teleportation circle with life force and he immediately asks who has the most health instead of who would be willing to do it (my character would not agree to help). I have already talked to the DM and he said he had already talked to the Bard.
My question for you guys is: Am I overreacting? I am new to DnD and maybe this is not a big deal, secondly if it is a problem what should I do during session when this happens?
Sorry for bad grammar and spelling. I have dyslexia and English is not my first language. Thanks for your insight!
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I want to start this by saying that I am very new to DnD as a whole. This is my first campaign and I am playing a Lizardfolk paladin (it works in this story); the problem player is playing a gnome or halfling bard (don't remember).
I think my biggest issue with him is that for example when we fought a Horned Devil he was saying that we killed the devil because he had looked up the stats and counted the damage. Even though the DM said the devil was still alive.
A different time we where fighting hill giants in a castle and the giants where in a big hall. when we had killed 2 giants and the last 1 was running away the Bard was arguing that the giants movement speed should be halved since it was a gargantuan creature moving through a small space. This is one of many examples where he brings up rules when it is an advantage to him.
In general I also feel like he metagames a lot, we had to charge up a teleportation circle with life force and he immediately asks who has the most health instead of who would be willing to do it (my character would not agree to help). I have already talked to the DM and he said he had already talked to the Bard.
My question for you guys is: Am I overreacting? I am new to DnD and maybe this is not a big deal, secondly if it is a problem what should I do during session when this happens?
Sorry for bad grammar and spelling. I have dyslexia and English is not my first language. Thanks for your insight!
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Hi, and Welcome to RPG.SE! Take the tour when you get a change to find out how things work. No problems about the grammar and and spelling, I've fixed that up for you (in fact, I don't think there were any spelling errors at all). I've also added the problem-players tag, since I'd say the Bard you're describing sounds like a problem player to me. Have fun and hope you enjoy the site!
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Hi, and Welcome to RPG.SE! Take the tour when you get a change to find out how things work. No problems about the grammar and and spelling, I've fixed that up for you (in fact, I don't think there were any spelling errors at all). I've also added the problem-players tag, since I'd say the Bard you're describing sounds like a problem player to me. Have fun and hope you enjoy the site!
– NathanS
2 hours ago
Hi, and Welcome to RPG.SE! Take the tour when you get a change to find out how things work. No problems about the grammar and and spelling, I've fixed that up for you (in fact, I don't think there were any spelling errors at all). I've also added the problem-players tag, since I'd say the Bard you're describing sounds like a problem player to me. Have fun and hope you enjoy the site!
– NathanS
2 hours ago
Hi, and Welcome to RPG.SE! Take the tour when you get a change to find out how things work. No problems about the grammar and and spelling, I've fixed that up for you (in fact, I don't think there were any spelling errors at all). I've also added the problem-players tag, since I'd say the Bard you're describing sounds like a problem player to me. Have fun and hope you enjoy the site!
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2 hours ago
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Talking to your DM was a wise move
So, from what you're describing, this player of the gnome/halfling Bard character is showing some disruptive behaviours. Looking up stats and arguing with the DM over them is metagaming and is not friendly to the narrative, especially since the DM is free to tweak the stats of any monster they include anyway, and the Bard player might have misremembered damage dealt or forgotten about resistance or something. Regardless, this behaviour also implies to the DM that they are making mistakes, which I would find quite insulting if I were the DM.
It sounds like you've already done the best thing you can by raising your concerns with the DM. Since it sounds like this behaviour is affecting the DM as well as you, hopefully the DM will be as invested in you as resolving this problem, so hopefully your DM should find a way to resolve this with the problem player.
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@Oxtrooo I'm glad you like my answer, but usually it's best to wait a bit longer (people here tend to wait about a day) to accept answers, since questions with accepted answers tend to discourage others from adding their own answers, and someone might come along with an answer you like more than mine (or at least, different insights that might be useful in addition to what I've said, even if you end up accepting my answer again anyway).
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The key word here seems to be "arguing", there is nothing wrong with pointing something out to a DM or asking if a rule applies, but after having done it is up to the DM to decide. The DM is not perfect and may not remember every rule or active spell. However if a player is arguing with the DM, that's an issue but one that can be fixed. It is simple to pull a player aside and discuss behavior, the player may not realize this is inappropriate, however it would be better that the DM do this than you. Although there is no harm with saying something if they start arguing with the DM in the middle of a session.
Asking who has the most HP is not really an issue, it could be better if the player framed it differently, (who's the toughest in the group) instead. It is not unbelievable the characters would know a barbarian has a better chance of surviving an injury than the sorcerer. As long as it is a discussion and not an order it is not a big deal.
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2 Answers
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Talking to your DM was a wise move
So, from what you're describing, this player of the gnome/halfling Bard character is showing some disruptive behaviours. Looking up stats and arguing with the DM over them is metagaming and is not friendly to the narrative, especially since the DM is free to tweak the stats of any monster they include anyway, and the Bard player might have misremembered damage dealt or forgotten about resistance or something. Regardless, this behaviour also implies to the DM that they are making mistakes, which I would find quite insulting if I were the DM.
It sounds like you've already done the best thing you can by raising your concerns with the DM. Since it sounds like this behaviour is affecting the DM as well as you, hopefully the DM will be as invested in you as resolving this problem, so hopefully your DM should find a way to resolve this with the problem player.
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@Oxtrooo I'm glad you like my answer, but usually it's best to wait a bit longer (people here tend to wait about a day) to accept answers, since questions with accepted answers tend to discourage others from adding their own answers, and someone might come along with an answer you like more than mine (or at least, different insights that might be useful in addition to what I've said, even if you end up accepting my answer again anyway).
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up vote
3
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Talking to your DM was a wise move
So, from what you're describing, this player of the gnome/halfling Bard character is showing some disruptive behaviours. Looking up stats and arguing with the DM over them is metagaming and is not friendly to the narrative, especially since the DM is free to tweak the stats of any monster they include anyway, and the Bard player might have misremembered damage dealt or forgotten about resistance or something. Regardless, this behaviour also implies to the DM that they are making mistakes, which I would find quite insulting if I were the DM.
It sounds like you've already done the best thing you can by raising your concerns with the DM. Since it sounds like this behaviour is affecting the DM as well as you, hopefully the DM will be as invested in you as resolving this problem, so hopefully your DM should find a way to resolve this with the problem player.
answered 2 hours ago
NathanS
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@Oxtrooo I'm glad you like my answer, but usually it's best to wait a bit longer (people here tend to wait about a day) to accept answers, since questions with accepted answers tend to discourage others from adding their own answers, and someone might come along with an answer you like more than mine (or at least, different insights that might be useful in addition to what I've said, even if you end up accepting my answer again anyway).
– NathanS
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up vote
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Talking to your DM was a wise move
So, from what you're describing, this player of the gnome/halfling Bard character is showing some disruptive behaviours. Looking up stats and arguing with the DM over them is metagaming and is not friendly to the narrative, especially since the DM is free to tweak the stats of any monster they include anyway, and the Bard player might have misremembered damage dealt or forgotten about resistance or something. Regardless, this behaviour also implies to the DM that they are making mistakes, which I would find quite insulting if I were the DM.
It sounds like you've already done the best thing you can by raising your concerns with the DM. Since it sounds like this behaviour is affecting the DM as well as you, hopefully the DM will be as invested in you as resolving this problem, so hopefully your DM should find a way to resolve this with the problem player.
answered 2 hours ago
NathanS
15.6k369169
Talking to your DM was a wise move
So, from what you're describing, this player of the gnome/halfling Bard character is showing some disruptive behaviours. Looking up stats and arguing with the DM over them is metagaming and is not friendly to the narrative, especially since the DM is free to tweak the stats of any monster they include anyway, and the Bard player might have misremembered damage dealt or forgotten about resistance or something. Regardless, this behaviour also implies to the DM that they are making mistakes, which I would find quite insulting if I were the DM.
It sounds like you've already done the best thing you can by raising your concerns with the DM. Since it sounds like this behaviour is affecting the DM as well as you, hopefully the DM will be as invested in you as resolving this problem, so hopefully your DM should find a way to resolve this with the problem player.
answered 2 hours ago
NathanS
15.6k369169
answered 2 hours ago
NathanS
15.6k369169
answered 2 hours ago
NathanS
15.6k369169
answered 2 hours ago
NathanS
15.6k369169
15.6k369169
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@Oxtrooo I'm glad you like my answer, but usually it's best to wait a bit longer (people here tend to wait about a day) to accept answers, since questions with accepted answers tend to discourage others from adding their own answers, and someone might come along with an answer you like more than mine (or at least, different insights that might be useful in addition to what I've said, even if you end up accepting my answer again anyway).
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@Oxtrooo I'm glad you like my answer, but usually it's best to wait a bit longer (people here tend to wait about a day) to accept answers, since questions with accepted answers tend to discourage others from adding their own answers, and someone might come along with an answer you like more than mine (or at least, different insights that might be useful in addition to what I've said, even if you end up accepting my answer again anyway).
– NathanS
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@Oxtrooo I'm glad you like my answer, but usually it's best to wait a bit longer (people here tend to wait about a day) to accept answers, since questions with accepted answers tend to discourage others from adding their own answers, and someone might come along with an answer you like more than mine (or at least, different insights that might be useful in addition to what I've said, even if you end up accepting my answer again anyway).
– NathanS
1 hour ago
@Oxtrooo I'm glad you like my answer, but usually it's best to wait a bit longer (people here tend to wait about a day) to accept answers, since questions with accepted answers tend to discourage others from adding their own answers, and someone might come along with an answer you like more than mine (or at least, different insights that might be useful in addition to what I've said, even if you end up accepting my answer again anyway).
– NathanS
1 hour ago
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The key word here seems to be "arguing", there is nothing wrong with pointing something out to a DM or asking if a rule applies, but after having done it is up to the DM to decide. The DM is not perfect and may not remember every rule or active spell. However if a player is arguing with the DM, that's an issue but one that can be fixed. It is simple to pull a player aside and discuss behavior, the player may not realize this is inappropriate, however it would be better that the DM do this than you. Although there is no harm with saying something if they start arguing with the DM in the middle of a session.
Asking who has the most HP is not really an issue, it could be better if the player framed it differently, (who's the toughest in the group) instead. It is not unbelievable the characters would know a barbarian has a better chance of surviving an injury than the sorcerer. As long as it is a discussion and not an order it is not a big deal.
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The key word here seems to be "arguing", there is nothing wrong with pointing something out to a DM or asking if a rule applies, but after having done it is up to the DM to decide. The DM is not perfect and may not remember every rule or active spell. However if a player is arguing with the DM, that's an issue but one that can be fixed. It is simple to pull a player aside and discuss behavior, the player may not realize this is inappropriate, however it would be better that the DM do this than you. Although there is no harm with saying something if they start arguing with the DM in the middle of a session.
Asking who has the most HP is not really an issue, it could be better if the player framed it differently, (who's the toughest in the group) instead. It is not unbelievable the characters would know a barbarian has a better chance of surviving an injury than the sorcerer. As long as it is a discussion and not an order it is not a big deal.
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The key word here seems to be "arguing", there is nothing wrong with pointing something out to a DM or asking if a rule applies, but after having done it is up to the DM to decide. The DM is not perfect and may not remember every rule or active spell. However if a player is arguing with the DM, that's an issue but one that can be fixed. It is simple to pull a player aside and discuss behavior, the player may not realize this is inappropriate, however it would be better that the DM do this than you. Although there is no harm with saying something if they start arguing with the DM in the middle of a session.
Asking who has the most HP is not really an issue, it could be better if the player framed it differently, (who's the toughest in the group) instead. It is not unbelievable the characters would know a barbarian has a better chance of surviving an injury than the sorcerer. As long as it is a discussion and not an order it is not a big deal.
answered 1 hour ago
John
1,7792410
The key word here seems to be "arguing", there is nothing wrong with pointing something out to a DM or asking if a rule applies, but after having done it is up to the DM to decide. The DM is not perfect and may not remember every rule or active spell. However if a player is arguing with the DM, that's an issue but one that can be fixed. It is simple to pull a player aside and discuss behavior, the player may not realize this is inappropriate, however it would be better that the DM do this than you. Although there is no harm with saying something if they start arguing with the DM in the middle of a session.
Asking who has the most HP is not really an issue, it could be better if the player framed it differently, (who's the toughest in the group) instead. It is not unbelievable the characters would know a barbarian has a better chance of surviving an injury than the sorcerer. As long as it is a discussion and not an order it is not a big deal.
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Hi, and Welcome to RPG.SE! Take the tour when you get a change to find out how things work. No problems about the grammar and and spelling, I've fixed that up for you (in fact, I don't think there were any spelling errors at all). I've also added the problem-players tag, since I'd say the Bard you're describing sounds like a problem player to me. Have fun and hope you enjoy the site!
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