Formatting numbers with smaller glyphs for decimals

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I am currently writing up a coursebook in which I handle sets of decimal numbers. As the language of the coursebook is French, the decimal separator has to be a comma and the thousands separator a thin space. But then, it becomes difficult for the reader to distinguish between the set of four integers 0, 1, 2, 3 and the set of two decimal numbers 0.1, 2.3. See the following code:

documentclassminimal
usepackage[french]babel
usepackage[autolanguage]numprint
begindocument
noindent $numprint0.1, numprint2.3$\
$0, 1, 2, 3$
enddocument

which is rendered by

which is not quite fine…

What I would like to do is to print the comma and the decimals in a smaller font than the digits before the decimal separator (this is a rather common usage in France, for instance to typeset prices), like in

documentclassminimal
usepackageamsmath
usepackagerelsize
begindocument
$text$0$smaller$mathord,1$,
text$2$smaller$mathord,3$$\
enddocument

(yes, this is a quite ugly code :-S), which yields the much more easy-to-read

Now my question is: how to do that neatly with a simple command like numprint from the numprint package? Changing the font for decimals does not seem to be a feature implemented in numprint, nor in siunitx; and I am not skilled enough in (La)TeX to build my own solution…

(Post-Scriptum: If possible, I would like to have a solution which also allows for inserting automatically the thousand separators, and rendering “1.2e3” with a power of ten…)

fontsize siunitx numprint decimal-number

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asked 3 hours ago

Rémi Peyre

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  With the constraints given, I'd use a semicolon instead of a comma for lists.
  – egreg
  3 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  1
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  Or, considered that you already need to type numprint everywhere, you could just insert manual space after each comma in the list $numprint0.1,, numprint2.3$.
  – Ruixi Zhang
  2 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  @egreg Indeed, I already had that idea in mind, but I do not like it much… :-| Also, I would find it quite frustrating that numprint and siunitx do implement some very sharp features to display formatted numbers, but that there would be no reasonable way to specify different fonts for pre- and post-comma digits… :-(
  – Rémi Peyre
  2 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  @RuixiZhang This is an idea worth being considered :-)
  – Rémi Peyre
  2 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  It might be frustrating; but I'm inclined to think that your readers will be more frustrated by the unreadable mess.
  – egreg
  2 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  

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I am currently writing up a coursebook in which I handle sets of decimal numbers. As the language of the coursebook is French, the decimal separator has to be a comma and the thousands separator a thin space. But then, it becomes difficult for the reader to distinguish between the set of four integers 0, 1, 2, 3 and the set of two decimal numbers 0.1, 2.3. See the following code:

documentclassminimal
usepackage[french]babel
usepackage[autolanguage]numprint
begindocument
noindent $numprint0.1, numprint2.3$\
$0, 1, 2, 3$
enddocument

which is rendered by

which is not quite fine…

What I would like to do is to print the comma and the decimals in a smaller font than the digits before the decimal separator (this is a rather common usage in France, for instance to typeset prices), like in

documentclassminimal
usepackageamsmath
usepackagerelsize
begindocument
$text$0$smaller$mathord,1$,
text$2$smaller$mathord,3$$\
enddocument

(yes, this is a quite ugly code :-S), which yields the much more easy-to-read

Now my question is: how to do that neatly with a simple command like numprint from the numprint package? Changing the font for decimals does not seem to be a feature implemented in numprint, nor in siunitx; and I am not skilled enough in (La)TeX to build my own solution…

(Post-Scriptum: If possible, I would like to have a solution which also allows for inserting automatically the thousand separators, and rendering “1.2e3” with a power of ten…)

fontsize siunitx numprint decimal-number

share|improve this question

asked 3 hours ago

Rémi Peyre

33827

• 
  
  
  

  
  4
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  With the constraints given, I'd use a semicolon instead of a comma for lists.
  – egreg
  3 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  1
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  Or, considered that you already need to type numprint everywhere, you could just insert manual space after each comma in the list $numprint0.1,, numprint2.3$.
  – Ruixi Zhang
  2 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  @egreg Indeed, I already had that idea in mind, but I do not like it much… :-| Also, I would find it quite frustrating that numprint and siunitx do implement some very sharp features to display formatted numbers, but that there would be no reasonable way to specify different fonts for pre- and post-comma digits… :-(
  – Rémi Peyre
  2 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  @RuixiZhang This is an idea worth being considered :-)
  – Rémi Peyre
  2 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  It might be frustrating; but I'm inclined to think that your readers will be more frustrated by the unreadable mess.
  – egreg
  2 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

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I am currently writing up a coursebook in which I handle sets of decimal numbers. As the language of the coursebook is French, the decimal separator has to be a comma and the thousands separator a thin space. But then, it becomes difficult for the reader to distinguish between the set of four integers 0, 1, 2, 3 and the set of two decimal numbers 0.1, 2.3. See the following code:

documentclassminimal
usepackage[french]babel
usepackage[autolanguage]numprint
begindocument
noindent $numprint0.1, numprint2.3$\
$0, 1, 2, 3$
enddocument

which is rendered by

which is not quite fine…

What I would like to do is to print the comma and the decimals in a smaller font than the digits before the decimal separator (this is a rather common usage in France, for instance to typeset prices), like in

documentclassminimal
usepackageamsmath
usepackagerelsize
begindocument
$text$0$smaller$mathord,1$,
text$2$smaller$mathord,3$$\
enddocument

(yes, this is a quite ugly code :-S), which yields the much more easy-to-read

Now my question is: how to do that neatly with a simple command like numprint from the numprint package? Changing the font for decimals does not seem to be a feature implemented in numprint, nor in siunitx; and I am not skilled enough in (La)TeX to build my own solution…

(Post-Scriptum: If possible, I would like to have a solution which also allows for inserting automatically the thousand separators, and rendering “1.2e3” with a power of ten…)

fontsize siunitx numprint decimal-number

share|improve this question

asked 3 hours ago

Rémi Peyre

33827

I am currently writing up a coursebook in which I handle sets of decimal numbers. As the language of the coursebook is French, the decimal separator has to be a comma and the thousands separator a thin space. But then, it becomes difficult for the reader to distinguish between the set of four integers 0, 1, 2, 3 and the set of two decimal numbers 0.1, 2.3. See the following code:

documentclassminimal
usepackage[french]babel
usepackage[autolanguage]numprint
begindocument
noindent $numprint0.1, numprint2.3$\
$0, 1, 2, 3$
enddocument

which is rendered by

which is not quite fine…

What I would like to do is to print the comma and the decimals in a smaller font than the digits before the decimal separator (this is a rather common usage in France, for instance to typeset prices), like in

documentclassminimal
usepackageamsmath
usepackagerelsize
begindocument
$text$0$smaller$mathord,1$,
text$2$smaller$mathord,3$$\
enddocument

(yes, this is a quite ugly code :-S), which yields the much more easy-to-read

Now my question is: how to do that neatly with a simple command like numprint from the numprint package? Changing the font for decimals does not seem to be a feature implemented in numprint, nor in siunitx; and I am not skilled enough in (La)TeX to build my own solution…

(Post-Scriptum: If possible, I would like to have a solution which also allows for inserting automatically the thousand separators, and rendering “1.2e3” with a power of ten…)

fontsize siunitx numprint decimal-number

fontsize siunitx numprint decimal-number

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asked 3 hours ago

Rémi Peyre

33827

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asked 3 hours ago

Rémi Peyre

33827

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asked 3 hours ago

Rémi Peyre

33827

asked 3 hours ago

Rémi Peyre

33827

asked 3 hours ago

Rémi Peyre

33827

33827

• 
  
  
  

  
  4
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  With the constraints given, I'd use a semicolon instead of a comma for lists.
  – egreg
  3 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  1
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  Or, considered that you already need to type numprint everywhere, you could just insert manual space after each comma in the list $numprint0.1,, numprint2.3$.
  – Ruixi Zhang
  2 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  @egreg Indeed, I already had that idea in mind, but I do not like it much… :-| Also, I would find it quite frustrating that numprint and siunitx do implement some very sharp features to display formatted numbers, but that there would be no reasonable way to specify different fonts for pre- and post-comma digits… :-(
  – Rémi Peyre
  2 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  @RuixiZhang This is an idea worth being considered :-)
  – Rémi Peyre
  2 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  It might be frustrating; but I'm inclined to think that your readers will be more frustrated by the unreadable mess.
  – egreg
  2 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

• 
  
  
  

  
  4
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  With the constraints given, I'd use a semicolon instead of a comma for lists.
  – egreg
  3 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  1
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  Or, considered that you already need to type numprint everywhere, you could just insert manual space after each comma in the list $numprint0.1,, numprint2.3$.
  – Ruixi Zhang
  2 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  @egreg Indeed, I already had that idea in mind, but I do not like it much… :-| Also, I would find it quite frustrating that numprint and siunitx do implement some very sharp features to display formatted numbers, but that there would be no reasonable way to specify different fonts for pre- and post-comma digits… :-(
  – Rémi Peyre
  2 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  @RuixiZhang This is an idea worth being considered :-)
  – Rémi Peyre
  2 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  It might be frustrating; but I'm inclined to think that your readers will be more frustrated by the unreadable mess.
  – egreg
  2 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  

4

4

With the constraints given, I'd use a semicolon instead of a comma for lists.
– egreg
3 hours ago

With the constraints given, I'd use a semicolon instead of a comma for lists.
– egreg
3 hours ago

1

1

Or, considered that you already need to type numprint everywhere, you could just insert manual space after each comma in the list $numprint0.1,, numprint2.3$.
– Ruixi Zhang
2 hours ago

Or, considered that you already need to type numprint everywhere, you could just insert manual space after each comma in the list $numprint0.1,, numprint2.3$.
– Ruixi Zhang
2 hours ago

@egreg Indeed, I already had that idea in mind, but I do not like it much… :-| Also, I would find it quite frustrating that numprint and siunitx do implement some very sharp features to display formatted numbers, but that there would be no reasonable way to specify different fonts for pre- and post-comma digits… :-(
– Rémi Peyre
2 hours ago

@egreg Indeed, I already had that idea in mind, but I do not like it much… :-| Also, I would find it quite frustrating that numprint and siunitx do implement some very sharp features to display formatted numbers, but that there would be no reasonable way to specify different fonts for pre- and post-comma digits… :-(
– Rémi Peyre
2 hours ago

@RuixiZhang This is an idea worth being considered :-)
– Rémi Peyre
2 hours ago

@RuixiZhang This is an idea worth being considered :-)
– Rémi Peyre
2 hours ago

It might be frustrating; but I'm inclined to think that your readers will be more frustrated by the unreadable mess.
– egreg
2 hours ago

It might be frustrating; but I'm inclined to think that your readers will be more frustrated by the unreadable mess.
– egreg
2 hours ago

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How is this for a start?

documentclassarticle

defnumX#1.#2relaxmbox$#1$small$mathord,#2$
newcommandnum[1]numX#1relax

begindocument
 $num0.1, num2.3$
enddocument

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answered 2 hours ago

Peter Selinger

13813

• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  I do like it! :-) I had forgotten about this defmycs#1.#2 TeX feature…
  – Rémi Peyre
  2 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  I'd consider ensuremath#1,mathsmaller#2 exploiting relsize (but the result is ugly nonetheless).
  – egreg
  2 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

up vote
1
down vote

You might do like this:

documentclassarticle
usepackage[T1]fontenc
usepackage[french]babel
usepackagesiunitx,relsize

sisetuplocale=FR

ExplSyntaxOn
NewDocumentCommandhnum>SplitArgument1.m
 
 hnumA#1
 
NewDocumentCommandhnumAmm
 
 num#1
 IfValueT#2hnumB#2
 
NewDocumentCommandhnumB>SplitArgument1em
 
 hnumC#1
 
NewDocumentCommandhnumCmm
 
 ensuremath
 
 ,mathsmallernum[add-integer-zero=false,output-decimal-marker=].#1
 IfValueT#2timesnume#2
 
 
ExplSyntaxOff

begindocument

$hnum0.1,hnum2.3,hnum4.5e10$

bigskip

$num0.1;num2.3;num4.5e10$

enddocument

However the result is really ugly and difficult to interpret. Much better to use a semicolon.

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How is this for a start?

documentclassarticle

defnumX#1.#2relaxmbox$#1$small$mathord,#2$
newcommandnum[1]numX#1relax

begindocument
 $num0.1, num2.3$
enddocument

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answered 2 hours ago

Peter Selinger

13813

• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  I do like it! :-) I had forgotten about this defmycs#1.#2 TeX feature…
  – Rémi Peyre
  2 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  I'd consider ensuremath#1,mathsmaller#2 exploiting relsize (but the result is ugly nonetheless).
  – egreg
  2 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

up vote
3
down vote

How is this for a start?

documentclassarticle

defnumX#1.#2relaxmbox$#1$small$mathord,#2$
newcommandnum[1]numX#1relax

begindocument
 $num0.1, num2.3$
enddocument

share|improve this answer

answered 2 hours ago

Peter Selinger

13813

• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  I do like it! :-) I had forgotten about this defmycs#1.#2 TeX feature…
  – Rémi Peyre
  2 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  I'd consider ensuremath#1,mathsmaller#2 exploiting relsize (but the result is ugly nonetheless).
  – egreg
  2 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

up vote
3
down vote

up vote
3
down vote

How is this for a start?

documentclassarticle

defnumX#1.#2relaxmbox$#1$small$mathord,#2$
newcommandnum[1]numX#1relax

begindocument
 $num0.1, num2.3$
enddocument

share|improve this answer

answered 2 hours ago

Peter Selinger

13813

How is this for a start?

documentclassarticle

defnumX#1.#2relaxmbox$#1$small$mathord,#2$
newcommandnum[1]numX#1relax

begindocument
 $num0.1, num2.3$
enddocument

share|improve this answer

answered 2 hours ago

Peter Selinger

13813

share|improve this answer

share|improve this answer

answered 2 hours ago

Peter Selinger

13813

answered 2 hours ago

Peter Selinger

13813

answered 2 hours ago

Peter Selinger

13813

13813

• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  I do like it! :-) I had forgotten about this defmycs#1.#2 TeX feature…
  – Rémi Peyre
  2 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  I'd consider ensuremath#1,mathsmaller#2 exploiting relsize (but the result is ugly nonetheless).
  – egreg
  2 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  I do like it! :-) I had forgotten about this defmycs#1.#2 TeX feature…
  – Rémi Peyre
  2 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  I'd consider ensuremath#1,mathsmaller#2 exploiting relsize (but the result is ugly nonetheless).
  – egreg
  2 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  

I do like it! :-) I had forgotten about this defmycs#1.#2 TeX feature…
– Rémi Peyre
2 hours ago

I do like it! :-) I had forgotten about this defmycs#1.#2 TeX feature…
– Rémi Peyre
2 hours ago

I'd consider ensuremath#1,mathsmaller#2 exploiting relsize (but the result is ugly nonetheless).
– egreg
2 hours ago

I'd consider ensuremath#1,mathsmaller#2 exploiting relsize (but the result is ugly nonetheless).
– egreg
2 hours ago

add a comment | 

up vote
1
down vote

You might do like this:

documentclassarticle
usepackage[T1]fontenc
usepackage[french]babel
usepackagesiunitx,relsize

sisetuplocale=FR

ExplSyntaxOn
NewDocumentCommandhnum>SplitArgument1.m
 
 hnumA#1
 
NewDocumentCommandhnumAmm
 
 num#1
 IfValueT#2hnumB#2
 
NewDocumentCommandhnumB>SplitArgument1em
 
 hnumC#1
 
NewDocumentCommandhnumCmm
 
 ensuremath
 
 ,mathsmallernum[add-integer-zero=false,output-decimal-marker=].#1
 IfValueT#2timesnume#2
 
 
ExplSyntaxOff

begindocument

$hnum0.1,hnum2.3,hnum4.5e10$

bigskip

$num0.1;num2.3;num4.5e10$

enddocument

However the result is really ugly and difficult to interpret. Much better to use a semicolon.

share|improve this answer

edited 1 hour ago

answered 1 hour ago

egreg

683k8418193065

add a comment | 

up vote
1
down vote

You might do like this:

documentclassarticle
usepackage[T1]fontenc
usepackage[french]babel
usepackagesiunitx,relsize

sisetuplocale=FR

ExplSyntaxOn
NewDocumentCommandhnum>SplitArgument1.m
 
 hnumA#1
 
NewDocumentCommandhnumAmm
 
 num#1
 IfValueT#2hnumB#2
 
NewDocumentCommandhnumB>SplitArgument1em
 
 hnumC#1
 
NewDocumentCommandhnumCmm
 
 ensuremath
 
 ,mathsmallernum[add-integer-zero=false,output-decimal-marker=].#1
 IfValueT#2timesnume#2
 
 
ExplSyntaxOff

begindocument

$hnum0.1,hnum2.3,hnum4.5e10$

bigskip

$num0.1;num2.3;num4.5e10$

enddocument

However the result is really ugly and difficult to interpret. Much better to use a semicolon.

share|improve this answer

edited 1 hour ago

answered 1 hour ago

egreg

683k8418193065

add a comment | 

up vote
1
down vote

up vote
1
down vote

You might do like this:

documentclassarticle
usepackage[T1]fontenc
usepackage[french]babel
usepackagesiunitx,relsize

sisetuplocale=FR

ExplSyntaxOn
NewDocumentCommandhnum>SplitArgument1.m
 
 hnumA#1
 
NewDocumentCommandhnumAmm
 
 num#1
 IfValueT#2hnumB#2
 
NewDocumentCommandhnumB>SplitArgument1em
 
 hnumC#1
 
NewDocumentCommandhnumCmm
 
 ensuremath
 
 ,mathsmallernum[add-integer-zero=false,output-decimal-marker=].#1
 IfValueT#2timesnume#2
 
 
ExplSyntaxOff

begindocument

$hnum0.1,hnum2.3,hnum4.5e10$

bigskip

$num0.1;num2.3;num4.5e10$

enddocument

However the result is really ugly and difficult to interpret. Much better to use a semicolon.

share|improve this answer

edited 1 hour ago

answered 1 hour ago

egreg

683k8418193065

You might do like this:

documentclassarticle
usepackage[T1]fontenc
usepackage[french]babel
usepackagesiunitx,relsize

sisetuplocale=FR

ExplSyntaxOn
NewDocumentCommandhnum>SplitArgument1.m
 
 hnumA#1
 
NewDocumentCommandhnumAmm
 
 num#1
 IfValueT#2hnumB#2
 
NewDocumentCommandhnumB>SplitArgument1em
 
 hnumC#1
 
NewDocumentCommandhnumCmm
 
 ensuremath
 
 ,mathsmallernum[add-integer-zero=false,output-decimal-marker=].#1
 IfValueT#2timesnume#2
 
 
ExplSyntaxOff

begindocument

$hnum0.1,hnum2.3,hnum4.5e10$

bigskip

$num0.1;num2.3;num4.5e10$

enddocument

However the result is really ugly and difficult to interpret. Much better to use a semicolon.

share|improve this answer

edited 1 hour ago

answered 1 hour ago

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