What was the Group f.64, and why were they important?

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I've heard of the "Group f.64", and know that famous photographers Ansel Adams and Edward Weston were members. What was this group and why was it significant? What about members of the group other than those commonly-recognized names?



Beyond print sales for college dorm rooms, what is their impact today? Are there tenets of or lessons from this group that are important or useful for photography today even in the modern digital world?










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  • Think about what f/64 means: a really tiny aperture, hence, huge depth of field.
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    Beyond print sales for college dorm rooms, I had no idea Adams and Weston made bikini, Che Guevara, Bob Marley, or black light velveteen pot leaf posters. I really need to brush up on my photo history... =D
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    Hmm... I'm trying to think... does this question show any research effort...? :)
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I've heard of the "Group f.64", and know that famous photographers Ansel Adams and Edward Weston were members. What was this group and why was it significant? What about members of the group other than those commonly-recognized names?



Beyond print sales for college dorm rooms, what is their impact today? Are there tenets of or lessons from this group that are important or useful for photography today even in the modern digital world?










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  • Think about what f/64 means: a really tiny aperture, hence, huge depth of field.
    – Pete Becker
    5 hours ago






  • 2




    Beyond print sales for college dorm rooms, I had no idea Adams and Weston made bikini, Che Guevara, Bob Marley, or black light velveteen pot leaf posters. I really need to brush up on my photo history... =D
    – scottbb
    5 hours ago







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    Hmm... I'm trying to think... does this question show any research effort...? :)
    – inkista
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I've heard of the "Group f.64", and know that famous photographers Ansel Adams and Edward Weston were members. What was this group and why was it significant? What about members of the group other than those commonly-recognized names?



Beyond print sales for college dorm rooms, what is their impact today? Are there tenets of or lessons from this group that are important or useful for photography today even in the modern digital world?










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I've heard of the "Group f.64", and know that famous photographers Ansel Adams and Edward Weston were members. What was this group and why was it significant? What about members of the group other than those commonly-recognized names?



Beyond print sales for college dorm rooms, what is their impact today? Are there tenets of or lessons from this group that are important or useful for photography today even in the modern digital world?







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  • Think about what f/64 means: a really tiny aperture, hence, huge depth of field.
    – Pete Becker
    5 hours ago






  • 2




    Beyond print sales for college dorm rooms, I had no idea Adams and Weston made bikini, Che Guevara, Bob Marley, or black light velveteen pot leaf posters. I really need to brush up on my photo history... =D
    – scottbb
    5 hours ago







  • 1




    Hmm... I'm trying to think... does this question show any research effort...? :)
    – inkista
    4 hours ago
















  • Think about what f/64 means: a really tiny aperture, hence, huge depth of field.
    – Pete Becker
    5 hours ago






  • 2




    Beyond print sales for college dorm rooms, I had no idea Adams and Weston made bikini, Che Guevara, Bob Marley, or black light velveteen pot leaf posters. I really need to brush up on my photo history... =D
    – scottbb
    5 hours ago







  • 1




    Hmm... I'm trying to think... does this question show any research effort...? :)
    – inkista
    4 hours ago















Think about what f/64 means: a really tiny aperture, hence, huge depth of field.
– Pete Becker
5 hours ago




Think about what f/64 means: a really tiny aperture, hence, huge depth of field.
– Pete Becker
5 hours ago




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Beyond print sales for college dorm rooms, I had no idea Adams and Weston made bikini, Che Guevara, Bob Marley, or black light velveteen pot leaf posters. I really need to brush up on my photo history... =D
– scottbb
5 hours ago





Beyond print sales for college dorm rooms, I had no idea Adams and Weston made bikini, Che Guevara, Bob Marley, or black light velveteen pot leaf posters. I really need to brush up on my photo history... =D
– scottbb
5 hours ago





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Hmm... I'm trying to think... does this question show any research effort...? :)
– inkista
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Hmm... I'm trying to think... does this question show any research effort...? :)
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The f.64 group was founded by Ansel Adams and his peers in the early 1930s. The group promoted the art of the "clearness and definition of the photographic image", with photos of sharply-focused on and carefully framed images showing actual fine detail (portraying reality) as opposed to the then popular pictorialist style, as for example, imitating artist brush paintings.



Stopping down to f/64 for better depth of field was one of their approaches, however, realize that to maximize detail, they were generally using large view cameras, perhaps like Ansel Adams using 8x10 inch sheet film, requiring corresponding longer lenses like perhaps 300 mm (or longer) as a normal lens.



Because of diffraction, one side effect was an old rule of thumb to NOT exceed a f/stop greater than focal length / 4. Those old limits compute as:



600 mm f/150

300 mm f/75

200 mm f/50

100 mm f/25

50 mm f/12.5

24 mm f/6

12 mm f/3



Still not a bad plan for routine work (although it does not take sensor size or print enlargement into account, but both are fundamentally important to depth of field), however today, we do realize that in some cases, the greater depth of field can often benefit much more than losses of diffraction can hurt, so this old rule disappeared. We no longer hear it said that way.



So things are bit different today with the tiny digital sensors requiring a very short focal length (like 3 mm on a phone camera). F/64 would not often be a proper idea with todays small cameras.






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    The f.64 group was founded by Ansel Adams and his peers in the early 1930s. The group promoted the art of the "clearness and definition of the photographic image", with photos of sharply-focused on and carefully framed images showing actual fine detail (portraying reality) as opposed to the then popular pictorialist style, as for example, imitating artist brush paintings.



    Stopping down to f/64 for better depth of field was one of their approaches, however, realize that to maximize detail, they were generally using large view cameras, perhaps like Ansel Adams using 8x10 inch sheet film, requiring corresponding longer lenses like perhaps 300 mm (or longer) as a normal lens.



    Because of diffraction, one side effect was an old rule of thumb to NOT exceed a f/stop greater than focal length / 4. Those old limits compute as:



    600 mm f/150

    300 mm f/75

    200 mm f/50

    100 mm f/25

    50 mm f/12.5

    24 mm f/6

    12 mm f/3



    Still not a bad plan for routine work (although it does not take sensor size or print enlargement into account, but both are fundamentally important to depth of field), however today, we do realize that in some cases, the greater depth of field can often benefit much more than losses of diffraction can hurt, so this old rule disappeared. We no longer hear it said that way.



    So things are bit different today with the tiny digital sensors requiring a very short focal length (like 3 mm on a phone camera). F/64 would not often be a proper idea with todays small cameras.






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      The f.64 group was founded by Ansel Adams and his peers in the early 1930s. The group promoted the art of the "clearness and definition of the photographic image", with photos of sharply-focused on and carefully framed images showing actual fine detail (portraying reality) as opposed to the then popular pictorialist style, as for example, imitating artist brush paintings.



      Stopping down to f/64 for better depth of field was one of their approaches, however, realize that to maximize detail, they were generally using large view cameras, perhaps like Ansel Adams using 8x10 inch sheet film, requiring corresponding longer lenses like perhaps 300 mm (or longer) as a normal lens.



      Because of diffraction, one side effect was an old rule of thumb to NOT exceed a f/stop greater than focal length / 4. Those old limits compute as:



      600 mm f/150

      300 mm f/75

      200 mm f/50

      100 mm f/25

      50 mm f/12.5

      24 mm f/6

      12 mm f/3



      Still not a bad plan for routine work (although it does not take sensor size or print enlargement into account, but both are fundamentally important to depth of field), however today, we do realize that in some cases, the greater depth of field can often benefit much more than losses of diffraction can hurt, so this old rule disappeared. We no longer hear it said that way.



      So things are bit different today with the tiny digital sensors requiring a very short focal length (like 3 mm on a phone camera). F/64 would not often be a proper idea with todays small cameras.






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        The f.64 group was founded by Ansel Adams and his peers in the early 1930s. The group promoted the art of the "clearness and definition of the photographic image", with photos of sharply-focused on and carefully framed images showing actual fine detail (portraying reality) as opposed to the then popular pictorialist style, as for example, imitating artist brush paintings.



        Stopping down to f/64 for better depth of field was one of their approaches, however, realize that to maximize detail, they were generally using large view cameras, perhaps like Ansel Adams using 8x10 inch sheet film, requiring corresponding longer lenses like perhaps 300 mm (or longer) as a normal lens.



        Because of diffraction, one side effect was an old rule of thumb to NOT exceed a f/stop greater than focal length / 4. Those old limits compute as:



        600 mm f/150

        300 mm f/75

        200 mm f/50

        100 mm f/25

        50 mm f/12.5

        24 mm f/6

        12 mm f/3



        Still not a bad plan for routine work (although it does not take sensor size or print enlargement into account, but both are fundamentally important to depth of field), however today, we do realize that in some cases, the greater depth of field can often benefit much more than losses of diffraction can hurt, so this old rule disappeared. We no longer hear it said that way.



        So things are bit different today with the tiny digital sensors requiring a very short focal length (like 3 mm on a phone camera). F/64 would not often be a proper idea with todays small cameras.






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        The f.64 group was founded by Ansel Adams and his peers in the early 1930s. The group promoted the art of the "clearness and definition of the photographic image", with photos of sharply-focused on and carefully framed images showing actual fine detail (portraying reality) as opposed to the then popular pictorialist style, as for example, imitating artist brush paintings.



        Stopping down to f/64 for better depth of field was one of their approaches, however, realize that to maximize detail, they were generally using large view cameras, perhaps like Ansel Adams using 8x10 inch sheet film, requiring corresponding longer lenses like perhaps 300 mm (or longer) as a normal lens.



        Because of diffraction, one side effect was an old rule of thumb to NOT exceed a f/stop greater than focal length / 4. Those old limits compute as:



        600 mm f/150

        300 mm f/75

        200 mm f/50

        100 mm f/25

        50 mm f/12.5

        24 mm f/6

        12 mm f/3



        Still not a bad plan for routine work (although it does not take sensor size or print enlargement into account, but both are fundamentally important to depth of field), however today, we do realize that in some cases, the greater depth of field can often benefit much more than losses of diffraction can hurt, so this old rule disappeared. We no longer hear it said that way.



        So things are bit different today with the tiny digital sensors requiring a very short focal length (like 3 mm on a phone camera). F/64 would not often be a proper idea with todays small cameras.







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