According to Kabbalah is it okay to have a pet dove?

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I want to buy a dove but my parents say that they heard that according to Kabbalah you cannot own a bird as a pet.
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          It's one of the stipulations of Rabbi Yehuda Hachassids ethical will:




          לא יגדל אדם תורים ובני יונה בתוך ביתו (ע' סי' תתרל"ח). לפי שהבית אשר יגדלו בה או ימותו בניו או לא יהיה לו זרע.



          One should not grow pigeons or doves in his house, since a house where [one grows pigeons or doves] will not have children or his sons will die.




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          Although there is a debate how much of this will applies to those who aren't his descendants. Practically, some people are stringent on some of his rules, and ignore others.



          Rabbi Yechiel Weinberger, though, seems to be stringent.



          Rabbi Chaim Vital also writes [1]




          יונים... המגדלים בתוך ביתו הוא בהכרח שימותו אחד או שנים מאנשי הבית בשנה ההיא. גם שאר היונים שמעתי שאינן סימן טוב לגדלם בבית לא לסבת הבנים ולא לסבת מיעוט ההצלחה בממון. ולכן טוב להתרחק גם מלגדל תורים



          Pigeons .. One who raises them will definitely lose two or three of his family within the year. Also, I heard that other pigeons are bad luck to raise in the house, as it causes [problems] with children as well as lack of financial success. Therefore, one should stay away from raising doves.




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            It's one of the stipulations of Rabbi Yehuda Hachassids ethical will:




            לא יגדל אדם תורים ובני יונה בתוך ביתו (ע' סי' תתרל"ח). לפי שהבית אשר יגדלו בה או ימותו בניו או לא יהיה לו זרע.



            One should not grow pigeons or doves in his house, since a house where [one grows pigeons or doves] will not have children or his sons will die.




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            Although there is a debate how much of this will applies to those who aren't his descendants. Practically, some people are stringent on some of his rules, and ignore others.



            Rabbi Yechiel Weinberger, though, seems to be stringent.



            Rabbi Chaim Vital also writes [1]




            יונים... המגדלים בתוך ביתו הוא בהכרח שימותו אחד או שנים מאנשי הבית בשנה ההיא. גם שאר היונים שמעתי שאינן סימן טוב לגדלם בבית לא לסבת הבנים ולא לסבת מיעוט ההצלחה בממון. ולכן טוב להתרחק גם מלגדל תורים



            Pigeons .. One who raises them will definitely lose two or three of his family within the year. Also, I heard that other pigeons are bad luck to raise in the house, as it causes [problems] with children as well as lack of financial success. Therefore, one should stay away from raising doves.




            [1]. I don't have a copy of the original, so I copied what I have.






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              It's one of the stipulations of Rabbi Yehuda Hachassids ethical will:




              לא יגדל אדם תורים ובני יונה בתוך ביתו (ע' סי' תתרל"ח). לפי שהבית אשר יגדלו בה או ימותו בניו או לא יהיה לו זרע.



              One should not grow pigeons or doves in his house, since a house where [one grows pigeons or doves] will not have children or his sons will die.




              Source



              Although there is a debate how much of this will applies to those who aren't his descendants. Practically, some people are stringent on some of his rules, and ignore others.



              Rabbi Yechiel Weinberger, though, seems to be stringent.



              Rabbi Chaim Vital also writes [1]




              יונים... המגדלים בתוך ביתו הוא בהכרח שימותו אחד או שנים מאנשי הבית בשנה ההיא. גם שאר היונים שמעתי שאינן סימן טוב לגדלם בבית לא לסבת הבנים ולא לסבת מיעוט ההצלחה בממון. ולכן טוב להתרחק גם מלגדל תורים



              Pigeons .. One who raises them will definitely lose two or three of his family within the year. Also, I heard that other pigeons are bad luck to raise in the house, as it causes [problems] with children as well as lack of financial success. Therefore, one should stay away from raising doves.




              [1]. I don't have a copy of the original, so I copied what I have.






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                It's one of the stipulations of Rabbi Yehuda Hachassids ethical will:




                לא יגדל אדם תורים ובני יונה בתוך ביתו (ע' סי' תתרל"ח). לפי שהבית אשר יגדלו בה או ימותו בניו או לא יהיה לו זרע.



                One should not grow pigeons or doves in his house, since a house where [one grows pigeons or doves] will not have children or his sons will die.




                Source



                Although there is a debate how much of this will applies to those who aren't his descendants. Practically, some people are stringent on some of his rules, and ignore others.



                Rabbi Yechiel Weinberger, though, seems to be stringent.



                Rabbi Chaim Vital also writes [1]




                יונים... המגדלים בתוך ביתו הוא בהכרח שימותו אחד או שנים מאנשי הבית בשנה ההיא. גם שאר היונים שמעתי שאינן סימן טוב לגדלם בבית לא לסבת הבנים ולא לסבת מיעוט ההצלחה בממון. ולכן טוב להתרחק גם מלגדל תורים



                Pigeons .. One who raises them will definitely lose two or three of his family within the year. Also, I heard that other pigeons are bad luck to raise in the house, as it causes [problems] with children as well as lack of financial success. Therefore, one should stay away from raising doves.




                [1]. I don't have a copy of the original, so I copied what I have.






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                It's one of the stipulations of Rabbi Yehuda Hachassids ethical will:




                לא יגדל אדם תורים ובני יונה בתוך ביתו (ע' סי' תתרל"ח). לפי שהבית אשר יגדלו בה או ימותו בניו או לא יהיה לו זרע.



                One should not grow pigeons or doves in his house, since a house where [one grows pigeons or doves] will not have children or his sons will die.




                Source



                Although there is a debate how much of this will applies to those who aren't his descendants. Practically, some people are stringent on some of his rules, and ignore others.



                Rabbi Yechiel Weinberger, though, seems to be stringent.



                Rabbi Chaim Vital also writes [1]




                יונים... המגדלים בתוך ביתו הוא בהכרח שימותו אחד או שנים מאנשי הבית בשנה ההיא. גם שאר היונים שמעתי שאינן סימן טוב לגדלם בבית לא לסבת הבנים ולא לסבת מיעוט ההצלחה בממון. ולכן טוב להתרחק גם מלגדל תורים



                Pigeons .. One who raises them will definitely lose two or three of his family within the year. Also, I heard that other pigeons are bad luck to raise in the house, as it causes [problems] with children as well as lack of financial success. Therefore, one should stay away from raising doves.




                [1]. I don't have a copy of the original, so I copied what I have.







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