Can solutions of GR have non-zero genus?

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Imagine there is "cavity" in one's locally Lorentzian manifold (the manifold has non-zero genus). Have these kind of solutions in general relativity been considered? If so, where can I read more about this? Is there any experiment one can do to prove we live in a non-zero genus world?










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      Imagine there is "cavity" in one's locally Lorentzian manifold (the manifold has non-zero genus). Have these kind of solutions in general relativity been considered? If so, where can I read more about this? Is there any experiment one can do to prove we live in a non-zero genus world?










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          Any manifold, regardless of its properties, is a solution to the Einstein field equations for some stress-energy tensor $T_munu$, providing it admits a metric, $g_munu$.



          In theory, you are free to pick your favourite algebraic manifold of genus $g$, compute the metric and find its corresponding stress-energy tensor.



          However, if we restrict the stress-energy, say by requiring that $T_munu$ be infinitely differentiable, then we also restrict the space of allowable metrics. Likewise, if we demand the manifold be globally hyperbolic, which is a frequent requirement due to the implication on causality, then we also restrict possible solutions.



          Based on a cursory search, I cannot find any classification of genus $g$ spacetime solutions yet. However, in the paper here it is written that,




          In the current paper we study that equation on closed 2-dimensional
          surfaces that have genus $>0$. We derive all the solutions assuming
          the embeddability in 4-dimensional spacetime that satisfies the vacuum
          Einstein equations...




          It seems we can have sub-manifolds in spacetime which do have non-zero genus, and are sensible solutions to the vacuum Einstein field equations, meaning at least $T_munu$ is physically sensible, being zero.






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            Any manifold, regardless of its properties, is a solution to the Einstein field equations for some stress-energy tensor $T_munu$, providing it admits a metric, $g_munu$.



            In theory, you are free to pick your favourite algebraic manifold of genus $g$, compute the metric and find its corresponding stress-energy tensor.



            However, if we restrict the stress-energy, say by requiring that $T_munu$ be infinitely differentiable, then we also restrict the space of allowable metrics. Likewise, if we demand the manifold be globally hyperbolic, which is a frequent requirement due to the implication on causality, then we also restrict possible solutions.



            Based on a cursory search, I cannot find any classification of genus $g$ spacetime solutions yet. However, in the paper here it is written that,




            In the current paper we study that equation on closed 2-dimensional
            surfaces that have genus $>0$. We derive all the solutions assuming
            the embeddability in 4-dimensional spacetime that satisfies the vacuum
            Einstein equations...




            It seems we can have sub-manifolds in spacetime which do have non-zero genus, and are sensible solutions to the vacuum Einstein field equations, meaning at least $T_munu$ is physically sensible, being zero.






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              Any manifold, regardless of its properties, is a solution to the Einstein field equations for some stress-energy tensor $T_munu$, providing it admits a metric, $g_munu$.



              In theory, you are free to pick your favourite algebraic manifold of genus $g$, compute the metric and find its corresponding stress-energy tensor.



              However, if we restrict the stress-energy, say by requiring that $T_munu$ be infinitely differentiable, then we also restrict the space of allowable metrics. Likewise, if we demand the manifold be globally hyperbolic, which is a frequent requirement due to the implication on causality, then we also restrict possible solutions.



              Based on a cursory search, I cannot find any classification of genus $g$ spacetime solutions yet. However, in the paper here it is written that,




              In the current paper we study that equation on closed 2-dimensional
              surfaces that have genus $>0$. We derive all the solutions assuming
              the embeddability in 4-dimensional spacetime that satisfies the vacuum
              Einstein equations...




              It seems we can have sub-manifolds in spacetime which do have non-zero genus, and are sensible solutions to the vacuum Einstein field equations, meaning at least $T_munu$ is physically sensible, being zero.






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                Any manifold, regardless of its properties, is a solution to the Einstein field equations for some stress-energy tensor $T_munu$, providing it admits a metric, $g_munu$.



                In theory, you are free to pick your favourite algebraic manifold of genus $g$, compute the metric and find its corresponding stress-energy tensor.



                However, if we restrict the stress-energy, say by requiring that $T_munu$ be infinitely differentiable, then we also restrict the space of allowable metrics. Likewise, if we demand the manifold be globally hyperbolic, which is a frequent requirement due to the implication on causality, then we also restrict possible solutions.



                Based on a cursory search, I cannot find any classification of genus $g$ spacetime solutions yet. However, in the paper here it is written that,




                In the current paper we study that equation on closed 2-dimensional
                surfaces that have genus $>0$. We derive all the solutions assuming
                the embeddability in 4-dimensional spacetime that satisfies the vacuum
                Einstein equations...




                It seems we can have sub-manifolds in spacetime which do have non-zero genus, and are sensible solutions to the vacuum Einstein field equations, meaning at least $T_munu$ is physically sensible, being zero.






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                Any manifold, regardless of its properties, is a solution to the Einstein field equations for some stress-energy tensor $T_munu$, providing it admits a metric, $g_munu$.



                In theory, you are free to pick your favourite algebraic manifold of genus $g$, compute the metric and find its corresponding stress-energy tensor.



                However, if we restrict the stress-energy, say by requiring that $T_munu$ be infinitely differentiable, then we also restrict the space of allowable metrics. Likewise, if we demand the manifold be globally hyperbolic, which is a frequent requirement due to the implication on causality, then we also restrict possible solutions.



                Based on a cursory search, I cannot find any classification of genus $g$ spacetime solutions yet. However, in the paper here it is written that,




                In the current paper we study that equation on closed 2-dimensional
                surfaces that have genus $>0$. We derive all the solutions assuming
                the embeddability in 4-dimensional spacetime that satisfies the vacuum
                Einstein equations...




                It seems we can have sub-manifolds in spacetime which do have non-zero genus, and are sensible solutions to the vacuum Einstein field equations, meaning at least $T_munu$ is physically sensible, being zero.







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